Google and the Government

Sorry for the stray of topic.  I just noticed that no one is opening threads.  This is the weekend and we all seam to post more than usual.  Do not want us to not have open threads.  

So, I will go to the corner later LOL, in the meantime enjoy the thread and topic.

cajun

[friole]

Just responded to that Google topic on the thread below on Toe Fungus, so I won't repeat myself.

I want to discuss the aging factor of tx.  I have heard it mentioned before, and certainly I feel it.  I am 58 and have always felt I looked relatively younger than my age.  However, since tx, my age seems to be rapidly accelerating.  The lines in my face are deep and distinct.  When the anemia first hit, I looked like a member from the rock band, KISS, but since that has been controlled with Procrit some of those bags are gone. I'm a bit thinnier too, and that makes me look aged, for some reason. I think my hair loss was disproportionate - leaving a lot of the gray hairs and taking a lot of the thick darker hairs.  Also, I have to watch that I don't walk with a stoop -- very very old looking.  I get cold a lot and end up on the couch with a blanket, quite early in the evening or I stand clutching my flannel shirt or coat around me.

I know, I know, all is temporary -- still, this feels like the beginning of old age.  Sure wish the wisdom had come wiith it....

[cajunlady]

Yes, I can relate.  I am starting to have circles and more grey; I just know this is going to age me. Just by what I feel with the meds and sides. Good to know it improved a bit. I also, have good genes in my family, hard for people to guess my age.  I figure I will take care of the aging when this is over. That is the least I can do for myself after tx.LOL

Sorry for the thread topic; I just get brain fade sometimes and that was the last topic I saw this morning (briefly). I still do not see new open threads yet.

cajun

[omyst]

At week (34/48)I am experiencing the same, lines in my face, generally looking at lot older. Before tx at 55 I looked much younger, my father was only moderately gray when he was 91 and looked like he was in his early 70's, I seemed to be following his path. So I do feel tx is aging me, but without tx I had maybe 10 years.

I have hope that after tx I will recover. There are ways to slow aging; eating well and exercise, but mostly by keeping the stress levels down and just making the most of whatever time one may have.

[Forseegood]

I have heard from many that tx is a way to glimpse the way you will look in 5 years but that after the whole process is over you go back to looking like you did preTX, and that your hair will grow in even nicer. I hate to say that I am a "bit" vain and I take pride in the fact that many people tell me I look much younger than my years (I know, what a silly thing to take pride in.) Guess I'll just drape my mirrors for the duration, ha ha. Chin up guys, you'll start feeling and looking so much younger after all of this, this will all be a dim memory...

Jim: thanks sooo much for your tip on the GenTeal eyedrops. While they are better than most of those over the counter drops I've tried (which I"m sorry to say, isn't saying much) they still don't compare to these drops I use that I get from this website. Don't mean to sound ungrateful, just wanted people to know about these...they make your eyes feel "refreshed and wet" in a way that most drops don't. And they don't cause that sticky feeling in your eyes that most drops do...my 98 year old dad had gone to a few opthomologists and couldn't get relief until I told him about these....they are only about 10 more dollars than the genteal but they are well worth it to me...

http://www.naturaleyecare.com/store/detail.aspx?ID=1508
they also make them for men...

[NYgirl]

Boy oh boy I can relate.  And while people with SERIOUS sides might think it's a ridiculous thing to worry about - unfortunately that doesn't make me feel any better.  

A woman at work the other day said "wow your eyes look like they are black and sunken today" and I was like well it's MONDAY I took my meds on Friday pardon me for not looking better!  Now I know she probably didn't mean anything by it - but I KNOW It's noticeable that my eyes and face are suffering.

I've always looked at least ten years younger than I am - but now I am starting to look my age and it TOTALLY bugs me.  

Tx can really really screw with our vanity.

I just don't want you to think you are the only one cause man oh man...you are not.

[cuteus]

yes, the gray hairs seem resistant to falling out during tx, and the skin and face look like father time beat the heck out of you, especially in the winter and if you have a tendency to dry skin.  I am happy to say, that after tx, I don't see that anymore. whew!

[NYgirl]

I love you.  Thank you.  You just made me feel like there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

Yes vanity is just such a bad thing...but it can't be helped.  The way I feel you would think I was a supermodel before hand and this was that drastic...but when it's YOU and you have to look in the mirror - it just sucks to not look your best.

of course everyone in the real world would be like WOW you are VAIN but.....F them they ARE fine and not all wrinkly and dry and hairless!!!!  ;-)

[Forseegood]

Ha Ha, well then I have an advantage, cause I have so much grey now...though only my trusty hairdressor "Rodney" knows for sure...ha ha, so sounds like I'll have plenty of hair staying in...maybe  it's going to be an  auburn wig for me!

[GoofyDad]

<i>though only my trusty hairdressor "Rodney" knows for sure...</i>

Oh Yeah? What about that gay masseusse?

[Forseegood]

HA HA HA HA!!!! thanks, I need that this morning....

[Forseegood]

oh yeah, and technically speaking, a male who massages is called a masseur, and handsomely paid around these parts...

[Forseegood]

Waxing Salons! can I get an amen...you don't mean the southern areas do you? wow......whew.....let me re-think this....

[strator]

Hmmm....handsomely paid around what parts?

[NYgirl]

NO JOKE!  My tweezers have become an integral part of my life on a daily basis.  Why it's like a freaking full time job I swear to God!

I swear as soon as I take one out an hour later I look and there are more!

Why isn't our HEAD HAIR growing like that?  I do NOT understand it whatsoever.

So...in addition to being skeletally thing, going bald, wrinkled beyond belief, dry to the point of flaking everywhere, Ribabumping all over the body we are hairy like gorilla faces as well.

Does it GET anybetter than that?

Dang........

[Forseegood]

well, if you have to explain a double entendre, then it's not a double entendre! ha ha! Anyway, was feeling kinda down this morning, wondering where I was going to get the strength to do this treatment, and I'm sorry to admit that looking older is one of the things that freaks me out the most (I know, my bad, people always assume I'm much, much younger) when all the silly's came out to play, and I feel much better....hope you have a great weekend...rent the 40 Year Old Virgin or something...get some he he's!

[NYgirl]

Well now you can see my dahling YOU ARE NOT ALONE!

As you know though - these things are temporary and when we have SVR and are off tx...we'll be spring chickies once again.  Just keep remembering THAT.

:)

[GoofyDad]

<i>rent the 40 Year Old Virgin </i>

Does she have an hourly rate, cause I really do need to start getting some stuff done today......

[Forseegood]

HA HA HA, youre on a roll this morning Goofness, maybe you accidentally ate your own rufie last night....

[GoofyDad]

Seen at a Hep C clinic in LA:
http://static.flickr.com/24/50234951_053d42143e_m.jpg

Forsee, do I see a resemblance?
http://community.webshots.com/photo/110357101/1110421367052057115JDjpDe

That riba is some nasty stuff:
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/a/l/albert65/hairy.jpg

[Forseegood]

Well you guys inspire me nonetheless, I think of some of you and  youre still working and exercising, it can't be THAT bad, etc. Then I think, I can do this, then at 3am staring at the cieling I think, I can't do this....what am I thinking???? then I read your posts and I think, I CAN do this...and round and round it goes, I really   thank all the brave posters!

[Forseegood]

where do you find this stuff??? watch out, youre on somebodies list, ha ha ha!

[roxxiroo]

I'm right in there with y'all on the vanity. I got so worried about hair loss I ordered a couple of Buffs off the internet just in case. I could never wear a wig. It just wouldn't work for me. I have thick short hair of the salt and pepper nature. I still have plenty enough, but I can certainly tell the difference in that I think the individual hair shafts are getting finer. And when you wear short hair that shows up soon if it is going to happen. About my new elixir, water, I think it has held me okay with my skin so far. I was one of those folks who just didn't drink much water at all. The other benefit of all this water I force drink (it's getting easier) is that the sinus headaches I always had in the winter are much, much better. Once the cold weather hit I would almost not drink any water, and I would get headaches once the heat was started in my home and car. So, all future winters, I plan to keep up the water. I have seen the light on the water.

[NYgirl]

Get a good script for Ambien and your nights of staring at the ceiling at 3am will be gone LOL!  It worked for ME :)

Seriously though - in life, you got to do what you got to do. I'm a single mom and my kids do NOT have a father to count on at all...if I lose my job I lose not only my pay but my insurance...so THAT gets me up every single day and keeps me going.

I have to admit though - the biggest exercise I've done since this started is go downstairs to get myself another Fudgeicle...honestly.  Well...unless you count picking up the remote control to flip through the channels that is!

Like I always say - Saturday (Day after shot day) is my "day of rest".  Whether I need it or not...I take it.  It sustains me through the week to just have that time to rest and get myself back in shape for the coming week.

I hate no doubt you are going to be just fine. The biggest thing you have to get over is the worry. Once you see what it's like you are going to be like "OH...that's it?"

Guaranteed.  :)

[GoofyDad]

Try not to stress, my friend. You're gonna come though this smelling like a ...... hmmmmmm coconut? New car leather? Godiva chocolate? Spago kitchen?  What do girls smell like down there?

[roxxiroo]

you may not exercise but you also don't seem a bit inactive. You have energy! even if you are feeling tired. It so there in your personality.

[Forseegood]

thanks for the vote of confidence guys...and yeah Girl, I agree with Roxy, how many people can even work on the stuff...I know people who have trouble getting down 2 blocks, youre doing great...mama said there'd be days like this, huh?

[Forseegood]

done ruining this thread, but is one of those chick's Dave's Navarro's mother????

[roxxiroo]

Now you've got me singing.....mama said there'd be days like this....can you get me to dancing too?

[NYgirl]

Ruining the thread?  Lord now you made me laugh how could that EVER be a bad thing?  

Thanks so much Roxi you made me feel great with that statement...I guess right now I probably have the right amount of energy I might have been quite a bit hyper before....yeah I'm sure I was LOL.

[NYgirl]

Ruining the thread?  Lord now you made me laugh how could that EVER be a bad thing?  

Thanks so much Roxi you made me feel great with that statement...I guess right now I probably have the right amount of energy I might have been quite a bit hyper before....yeah I'm sure I was LOL.

If I have any energy at all it must be from the Riba ;-)

[andyarundel]

MR. BROWN:
[cough] Don't worry, dear! I'll get it! [cough]
[ding **** ding ****]
[ding **** ding ****]
MR. BROWN:
Yes?

MAN:
Hello. Uhh, can we have your liver?
MR. BROWN:
My what?
MAN:
Your liver. It's a large, ehh, glandular organ in your abdomen.
ERIC:
[sniff]
MAN:
You know, it's, uh,-- it's reddish-brown. It's sort of, uhh,--
MR. BROWN:
Yeah,-- y-- y-- yeah, I know what it is, but... I'm using it, eh.
ERIC:
Come on, sir.
MR. BROWN:
Hey! Hey! Stop!
ERIC:
Don't muck us about.
MR. BROWN:
Stop! Hey! Hey! Stop it. Hey!
MAN:
Hallo.
MR. BROWN:
Ge-- get off.
MAN:
What's this, then? Mmh.
MR. BROWN:
A liver donor's card.
MAN:
Need we say more?
ERIC:
No!
MR. BROWN:
Listen! I can't give it to you now. It says, 'in the event of death'. Uh. Oh! Ah. Ah. Eh.
MAN:
No one who has ever had their liver taken out by us has survived.
MR. BROWN:
Agh.
ERIC:
Just lie there, sir. It won't take a minute.
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MAN:
Zip it up.
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MRS. BROWN:
'Ere. What's going on?
MAN:
Uh, he's donating his liver, madam.
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MRS. BROWN:
Is this because he took out one of those silly cards?
MAN:
That's right, madam.
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MRS. BROWN:
Typical of him!
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MRS. BROWN:
He goes down to the public library, he sees a few signs up, comes home all full of good intentions.
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MRS. BROWN:
He gives blood. He does cold research. All that sort of thing.
MAN:
Oh.
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
ERIC:
Ehh.
MRS. BROWN:
What do you, uh,-- what do you do with them all, anyway?
ERIC:
They all go to saving lives, madam.
MRS. BROWN:
Mmm. That's what he used to say. 'It's all for the good of the country' he used to say.
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MRS. BROWN:
Do you think it's all for the good of the country?
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MAN:
Hm?
MRS. BROWN:
Do you think it's all for the good of the country?
MAN:
Well, I wouldn't know about that, madam. We're just, uh, doing our jobs, you know.
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MRS. BROWN:
You're not... doctors, then?
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MAN:
Oh. Blimey no.
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MAN and ERIC:
[laughing]
YOUNG MAN:
Mum. Dad. I'm off out now. I'll see you about seven.
MAN and ERIC:
[laughing]
MRS. BROWN:
Right-o, son. Look after yourself.
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MAN:
Oh. Now.
ERIC:
M-hmm.
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]

MRS. BROWN:
Do you, um,...
ERIC:
[mumble]
MAN:
Carry on.
MRS. BROWN:
...fancy a cup of tea?
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MAN:
Oh, well, that would be very nice.
MRS. BROWN:
Oh.
MAN:
Thank you.
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MAN:
Thank you very much, madam.
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MAN:
Thank you.
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MAN:
Oh, eh,-- I thought she'd never ask.
ERIC:
You know it.
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]

MAN:
Uhh, you do realise, uh, he has to be, uh,... well, dead,... by the terms of the card, uh, before he donates his liver.
MRS. BROWN:
Well, I told him that, but he never listens to me. Silly man!
MR. BROWN:
[screaming]
MAN:
Only I was wondering, ehh,... well, you know, what you was thinking of doing after that. I mean, [sniff] will you stay on your own,... or is there, uh,... well, someone else, sort of, uh,... on the horizon?
MRS. BROWN:
I'm too old for that sort of thing.

I'm past my prime.
MAN:
Not at all. You're a very attractive woman.
MRS. BROWN:
Well, I'm certainly not thinking of getting hitched up again.
MAN:
Sure?
MRS. BROWN:
Sure.
[pause]
MAN:
Can we have your liver, then?
MRS. BROWN:
Oh. No, I'd be... scared.
MAN:
All right.
[snap]
I'll tell you what. Look. Listen to this.
[music]
MAN IN PINK:
Whenever life gets you down, Mrs. Brown,
And things seem hard or tough,
[clunk]
And people are stupid, obnoxious, or daft,
And you feel that you've had quite enough,
[boom]

[singing]
Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour,
That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.


Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars.
It's a hundred thousand light years side to side.
It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick,
But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide.
We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point.
We go 'round every two hundred million years,
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.
[boom]
[slurp]


The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.

[clunk]
MRS. BROWN:
[sigh] Makes you feel so, sort of, insignificant, doesn't it?
MAN:
Yeah. Yeah. [sniff] Can we have your liver, then?
MRS. BROWN:
Yeah. All right. You talked me into it.

[Forseegood]

a little on the bombastic side sometimes...but he's got a soul...

[Tallblonde]

Soul?  You saw soul in all of that?  To me it was just a bunch of existentialist, "life is absurd and meaningless" ****.  The kind of stuff I was required to read during my freshman year in college.  The "No Exit", Jean-Paul Satre sort of ****.  I'm glad I didn't buy it then at 19, nor do I now at 46.  I feel pity those who see life through that dreary lens.

Susan

[Forseegood]

just mean he reads...whether I agree with it or not...

[roxxiroo]

l saw no soul either.... I saw someone trying to alter the tread away from many women, a resident bad boy (love ya),and resident sensitive man all having a good time. Sometimes this is just the type of encouraging, nourishing, and light hearted thread we need. He made it obvious he was trying to break the spirit of the tread.

[Tallblonde]

Very perceptive of you, Roxiroo.  

Susan

[Forseegood]

as a means to change the subject, I didn't ask earier, but what are Buffs?

[cajunlady]

Oh my, I laughed so hard I could not see for quite some time.  I had to keep stopping and wipe my eyes to keep reading.  This converstion was halarious.  We all so need a good laugh now and again.  If we can't laugh at ourselves (you know)LOL.

And then DOOM FACE had to put that ugly two cents in there. What is funny about a liver being ripped out.  Very Sick


nygirl: I roared on yours; it took me forever to finish reading the post.  Could not keep the tears from my eyes.  OH Good laughter makes the world go round and round.

cajun