HR, please comment. PPC-Thyroid

[copyman]

after researching PPC i see that it is a Soy product. there has been some negative things said about Soy and its effect on the thyroid. since HCV can affect the thyroid would adding Soy further damage it? thanks

[scratchinghead]

Well, your the only one around here that tested enzymes during different diets. I'm kinda inclined to lower the 30% protein with every meal amount that HR suggests. Tried the 30% and had a headache all last night. Never have headaches. Could be from reading this forum.

I guess the trick would be to get one's daily diet on a piece of paper and slowly modify it until it looks perfect. Good books aren't written, they're edited, no?

Still open to insights from everyone.

[jmjm530]

Therefore on these types of diets, an ideal snack might be whole wheat rice cakes, which would be forbidden on the Zone diet because it would not be balanced out as well as following much too high on the glycemic index. Had I eaten more rice cakes -- and less bagels -- maybe my tri's woudn't have been as high. Another component of these diets -- the Zone as well -- is lots of aerobic exercise. In fact, while revised, the original Pritikin book recommended TWO HOURS of brisk walking per day. No doubt that helped normalize tri's for those that followed the regimen.

[jmjm530]

Unlike the Zone diet, to slow carbohydrate absorption, diets like McDougal rely more on the fibrous nature of the food components themselves -- complex carbs mostly -- as opposed to embedding certain foods within foods (eating in protein/fat/carb) combinations such as with the Zone diet. In other words, you can eat fruit by itself on McDougal, while on the Zone diet, you would for example always want to balance an apple with a little fat (say "x" almonds) and a little protein (say "x" ounces of chicken").

[jmjm530]

I believe HR's diet is more akin to the Barry Sear's Zone diet, and not the low fat, low protein, McDougal diet, but I won't speak for HR. I have tried both types of diets after being swayed by both authors. Both btw are difficult to follow and at least for me had a positive effect on my cardio lipid profile. However, the low fat, low protein diet (the non-zone diet) lowered total cholesterol more and also lowered my liver enzymes pre-treatment. The Zone diet raised my HDL the most and lowered my Tri's the most but raised my liver enzymes. I believe I could have controlled tri's better on the McDougal type of diet had I watched the simple carbs more, which was difficult to do with such a limitation on fat and protein.

-- Jim

[scratchinghead]

Ditto

HR said the same thing in as many words

Have a great weekend!

[jmjm530]

Sorry -- that would be the "McDougal VS *Sears* debate". The Dean Ornish diet, as well as Pritikin is more similar to McDougal, although I believe McDougal is vegetarian, not sure on that, but it is a very low fat, low protein, high complex carb diet.