Hey guys,
I do realise I made a fatal mistake,one that i will learn from and remember for all my days.
However, isnt that one of the major principles of life? To better and refine yourself from your mistakes?
I was stupid,irresponsible and put myself at risk.I UNDERSTAND.Please dont assume just because I am 20,that i have no life experience,I have stories in life ,you could not even phathom.You do not know me.
I do not want any sympathy,or hugs or kisses,for that I have my friends and family,my guardians in life.I came here to get medical facts,and thanks to some great,informative people I have recieved those facts.
When it comes to sex,everybody has made a mistake or two down the line.So unless you are some shining beacon of chasity and perfection please spare yourself the hypocrisy of moral judgement.
Once again, a warm thank you to all these helpful people on the board.
Thanks for the input. I think you read too much into it,though, and I understand context is difficult in a written forum. And thank you, too, for the abandonment prediction, I'm sure I am wiser and much better off now. How did you know that I verbally abuse my kids and beat down their self esteem at every opportunity? Yes, I find that crushing their little blossoming spirits and making sure they know just how stupid and useless they are is the best way to assure their respect and love now and in my old age. If it hadn't been for your well thought out opinion, I might never have known! Thank you, oh, THANK you.
It remains to be seen how verbally smacking your kids will play out in your family when they're teenagers and in their twenties. There is no clarity like in-your-face rebellion.
If kids run away from an oppressive home, parental certainty means diddly-squat.
In my experience, the heavies among parents are the forever abandoned ones.
We live in a society that coddles idiots. A little pat on the head and a hearty, "Now don't do that again, Junior..." isn't going to make the point. I'm a father of daughters and a son, and it needs to be CLEAR to them that reckless behavior, while probably inevitable, kills, and sometimes there are no second chances. I was reckless in my youth, and feel qualified to smack the point home- verbally, as I don't hit my kids. If someone's narcissistic self-centered behavior puts them and others at risk, I'm in favor of some "paternal enlightenment". And if I don't judge, how do I teach MY kids to set boundaries? Forgiveness is great, but AFTER the lesson is learned. My two cents, I'm sure not all will agree.
You make some good points, Trinity. I agree with everything you say, but like Marc, I'm a bit a tougha$$ when it comes to people making common sense. I'm hard on myself for mistakes and hard on others. Doesn't mean I don't care - it means exactly the opposite. I hate to see people suffer and if I can help drill in some common sense to help them avoid future mishaps, I will. I have an 8 year old daughter. Call me super protective. ;)
As one who was vocal on the smack down front, I wanted to say that I don't disagree with you. I think our responses might have more to do with different philosophies on how you relate to young people than anything else. I'm a total tough *** with my own kids and kids in general. They absolutely know I love them, and they also know that if they do screw up, I will be there for them. But when they screw up I tell them to their face. And I'm really clear what I consider unacceptable behavior. Kids tend to make excuses for themselves and they don't realize the consequences of their actions.
All of us are reading things into this situation. Does Ashman realize he made a huge mistake because his partner had HCV or because he engaged in unprotected sex? From my point of view, the former is not good enough.
Maybe my responses were inappropriate, but my point was that he needs to take responsibility and be sure this doesn't happen again. And it shouldn't have happened in the first place. I'd personally give my kid condoms before I'd let something like that happen.
Ashman: I just wanted some advice on this subject.
I didn't see one post from Ashman that indicated he wanted sympathy. Commentary on a public forum does not mean we in the "feel good business" with our responses as some seem to think but in Ashman's defense I do not think he was looking for sympathy. It appears he realizes he made a huge mistake and we have certainly confirmed that. Yes, he's obsessing and an a self proclaimed hypochondriac but I don't think he deserves the smack down. He asked a legitimate question and we answered. Who on this forum hasn't been reckless at some point in their life. I would never appoint myself moral majority leader and the his use of bad judgement has been reiterated over and over again. Let's hope Ashman gets out of this one unscathed and has learned a huge lesson.
Trinity
People - std's like HIV and HEP and HERPES are at least 4 times more likely to be transferred during ANAL sex. I'm not against anal sex, but you just have to use common sense, NO MATTER HOW DRUNK YOU ARE. ESPECIALLY if you are female or on the receiving end of gay sex (if you're a male) you need to be super careful if you're having anal sex.
There is no sympathy from me - do I need to be sympathetic if you walk out into traffic and get hit by a truck??
LOL, that was good
CDM Now we understand what can-do-man means
LOL, OMG trish my post didn't come out just right. I was thinking more in line with "a bird in the HAND"
Hmm....so that's YOU in that video circulating on the internet? Had no idea you were that flexible .... ;->
I am now UND, if i have unprotected sex with my self is it possible i could re-infect myself???????
Please help.....Abbas_new brother
Interesting - related to this topic and Dr. D's response.
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/720314
The person is not a stranger. She's in the same circle of college friends. And they were both very drunk, as happens now and then on campus, even to the brightest students. I'm sure neither of them planned any of this or even remembered what a condom was, let alone where it was.
The amazing thing was that this young girl (who contracted HCV at birth) phoned him the next day when she became sober and told him. To me, this speaks volumes about her character.
I wonder how many of us would do that in her situation or just keep quiet and hope for the best?
Having un protected anal sex with a stranger who says she has hep c is HIGH RISK...that about tops it....i didnt realize he said that...WOW...that is crazy
Statistics are tricky things. Most people don't really understand them. There are stats out there that can give reasonably reliable odds for how many people in a group of, say 1000, will get Hepc from sexual activity. But there is NO statistic in the world that can tell you the odds of your catching the virus from your particular experience.
If you are concerned about your health and well being you should NOT be asking for stats on an internet posting board. Instead you should get yourself tested some 2 months after exposure.
Asking for lay-people's opinions about your odds of getting a disease from ill-considered sexual activity isn't going to do your health any good at all.
Unprotected anal sex during a one night stand? Moron.
Also the good news is ...if know you have the virus and treat ti while its in the early stages....odds are you will beat it..no pun intended
My questions are:
What are the chances of me contracting the virus from this one episode? Am I at very high risk?
ANS:Not a high risk...but still risky...its hard to put a % number on it..you have a higher risk getting HIV than HCV tho.
If she has a low viral load (she was born with it so im assuming she has),is it less contagious?
ANS:..who knows ...what her viral load is...dont matter if its 1000 or 10000000...you can still get it from any load number
Any advice would be deeply appreciated...Im really stressing!!!
ANS...have a stiff drink or take even taks a valium...relax....but do get a blood test...it make takes weeks to show up too....hope this helps...BTW..think with your other head instead.
I am, doing fine.
We have to match Apples to Apples here.
It was not drilled into us to fasten our seat belts. In 65. I don’t think they even came with seat belts. Now we have been educated and seat belts are strictly in forced for the ones that don’t get. it.
We didn’t have the knowledge they have now concerning unprotected sex.. Since some seem to ignore all warnings, I feel a swift kick in the pants is far more effective than a rub on the head
Those who can, do; those who can't, warn of the dangers.:)
True, but driving my 65 chevy 90 down a country road was, like i said sure not defending this but when i think back at that age we didn't always use good judgement.... Hope your doing ok.
May offend some but the truth is, with all the education out there, I can’t help but think of the great profit Forrest Gump. Stupid is as Stupid Does. If you feel some members came down hard on you, tough sh!t.. Apparently, this is what you need.
Can-do
When we were young, we thought Penicillin or Quell Lotion would cure everything out there. It was not drilled into us that Unpredicted Casual Sex could kill
Not taking sides but in all seriousness at that age and then add booze most of us has done things we regret.