I guess I'm an anomaly here; I got it from sharing needles.
@Mikeraja- I often wondered about that bleeding gum issue but when I brought it up in a forum I got the same response you did. I don't know if you can or cannot get infected that way but it's seems at least theoretically possible.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/543531
As far as I can figure, it was 1978 when I became infected. I was in the military and my entire barracks came down with some unspecified illness and they stuck me in the hospital for a week. My medical records state NonAnonB hepatitis with a question mark after it. A couple of years later (much sooner than there were medical tests for the illness ) there is a notation in my medical log that states Hep C? Two years later, I was declared clean. A year later, the Hep C? thing starts again. Apparently, something happened during my military service to infect me (nope, not an IV user, not promiscuous ,nada. Perhaps shared a razor with someone in the barracks, it sorta was first come first served).
My first wife was, as far as I know, clean.
My second wife, as far as I know (and I am sure she would have nailed me to the cross if she became infected ((and she was informed to my medical condition)) is clean. As are the two children I produced with her.
My third wife was, and remains clean. Her dr monitors her yearly, but assures her if she didn't contract it within the first year of our relationship, she is probably good to go. We are celebrating our tenth year anniversary this year, so this continues to be good news.
I think the point may be that just because they aren't in a high risk category, doesn't mean they got it from sex. they could have gotten from somethinge else, possibly a dentist appt...you just don't know, but what they DO know is that the other persons blood has to go into your blood stream you don't get it from semen or other bodily fluids. Very seldom are two people bleeding at the same time when they have sex, unless it's crazy rough sex (not sure what your friends are into, no judgements)...
and the whole kissing thing with bleeding gums, that's just gross, I can't even entertain that (ok, judgement there, ha)....but it has to get into their blood stream, if it gets swolled (ick) then not gonna happen...
I am not in a high risk catagory at all, but yet I didn't get it from sex, I have had 2 sex partners in 30 years...but I got it somehow...
You shouldn't present your paranoia as fact...they have done some research on this stuff, they just don't pull the numbers out of their rear ends....
do you even have Hep C?
and that was not sex with multiple partners, jus two nights with hep c infected girl and that person has now hep c which did not have 6 moths ago test confirmed. all im saying, is that I belive and evidence states that blood to blood does not have to be vein to vein, but any open sore ie. bleeding gum and if infected blood touhes that open bleeding gum , infection is highly likely!
again im not saying SALIVAAAA okkk, im saying blleding gums which means u have open sore there small one but open and bleeding so can get infected.
thats it...good luck to all and my prayers
nygirl again u i did not say anything about saliva......anyways u think u know everything let me tell u, u dont know jack ok.
read many posts and know from personal, many ppl who only high risk thing they did was sex, no needle drugs, anything else jus sex, and know that many ppl got infected that way even tho it was not sex during period or any other rough sex, YET they got infected!!!!
lol - that's the sick mind of a CT girl. All I know is my dog is the primary suspect now that I know you can get it from kissing. Sadly, I have nothing more lurid than that
It seemed appropriate Anne until candoman started talking about un-dressing ;)
Ha ha Deb - back to the dressing are we??
Pffffffffffffffffffffffft you got me! hahahahahahahah!
"Remember that study where they had 100 people in monogamous relationships tested for like ten years or something and NONE Of them contracted it sexually?"
Remember it??? Heck i tried to join it!!! :o)
Dr Z
Remember that study where they had 100 people in monogamous relationships tested for like ten years or something and NONE Of them contracted it sexually?
I think you are right maybe 3% is for childbirthing and sex is lower on that food chain.
Salads, food I must be hungry.
Hmmm, i've heard of swapping slobbers but never though of bleeding gums being a turn on. I mean really how often are two people gums bleeding and they decide lets kiss.
Sorry i don't buy the sex thing it nor do i think the odds are greater then 3 % if even that high. To many people doing it, yet only one partner has HCV. Its nice when some think they know more then the experts do.
There are many people who have infected partners and are not infected theirselves. From the data i have seen, sex is not high on the list of ways to get Hep C.
Your assumption is based on data you saw somewhere or just your own opinion? Being afraid/paranoid it might happen and it actually happening are two different things....
BTW, in case you are taking a pole...my gums don't bleed when i brush..glad to be in the 10% of that group and my partner has HCV but i didn't get it from him, we have 2 different types...
Lots of people are not n a high risk catagory for contracting HCV, but that does not draw a straight line to sex as the cause just because they didn't get tatoos or shoot up drugs or didn't have a transfusion prior to 1992 or what ever...
Blood to blood contact...
Thank you Fret - therein the blood salad ;)
"that is blood to blood!!!!"
Blood to blood means blood stream to blood stream as in veins. If two people make out and they both have bleeding gums, and one has HepC they will not swap enogugh blood to infect the other. It's more complex than that. It would not be anything like blood to blood contact because it would all be broken down through your liver and intestines.
nygirl i have read many of ur posts and seriously u do not think before u answer. "
At least mikerja I have the capacity to think and to recall correct data.
I did address your incorrectness about saliva AND sex and you are wrong on both counts unfortunately, At least according to every single heptologist and scientist in the entire world. Perhaps you believe mosquitos can transmit hepc as well?
Be GRATEFUL if it were this easy to transmit this disease everyone in America would have it by now and so would all of their children. It is GOOD news.
i am suree. that many ppl here who think they got it from blood transfusion or dont know how, SEX is the asnwer......I kno many ppl who only risk activity they did was sex........i think that 3% is hugely wrong which i believe in time they will realise!
ps. read my post i said bleeding gum to another infected bleeding gum person making out. can transfer coz there is blood to blood there
nygirl i have read many of ur posts and seriously u do not think before u answer. I said bleeding gum to another bleeding gum! like i have bleeding gums i kno.......so what if the other person u make out with has bleeding gums while u r making out......that is blood to blood!!!!
why dont they state this in brochured etc.......most ppl i kno when i ask them, hey do u bleed when u brush ur teeth? 90% of them say yes!!!
Oh no.......no no no not another one....
No you can't get HCV from blood to saliva. As one of our infamous members has stated you could pour infected blood on a salad like dressing and eat it and you will NOT contract HCV.
As for sex the statistics say less than 3%. If you think that is a lot of people then I dont know what to say. If you are both bleeding and are not practicing safeR sex then it's possible but not likely at all.
Brushing at least 2X a day and flossing, maybe throw in a dentist visit or 2 a year....enough said
Any blood to blood contact will transmit the disease, sex is not a high risk category for transmission from what i have read, not like Hep B which can be transimitted by some other fluids as well as blood. Unless both parties are bleeding during sex, then probably not going to transmit...at least from what i have read and heard from my Doctor.
how many times have u brushed ur teeth to see blood??? think about it, we keep blaming medeical, but it could also be simple as this, i do not understand why the brochures do not speak about this risk?
many ppl have bleeding gums which could spread this via making out!!!
alot of ppl actully get it from having SEX!!!! thats one thing u guys need to realise, if u have bleeding gums and u make out with a hep c person with bleeding gums, THEN U CAN GET IT!!!!!
OOPS - Hah ha - I didn't realize this was an old post - my bad
Having being diagnosed with acute hcv last year I know exactly when I contracted it and had symptoms. I have no risk factors other than 2 medical exposures. There is nothing else. AND, while I obsessed about it when I got the Red Cross letter, a year later and post tx, yes, I will always wonder because if it happened to me with my nerdy life style, then it scares me how may others could be infected. I think "THEY" just don't know how many we are.
I think it is important to look at people like me, at my age and lifestyle, because it highlights the possibility of other methods of transmission and takes transmission out of the "druggie" perception. I think it is dangerous not to look at other possibilities instead of just paying lip service to it. Hypothetical, but even though I don't think my way of contracting this disease is somehow different or more tragic than if I used drugs, it bears consideration. We are all victims of a disease that deserves more research and open minds. AND PLEASE, to all of you who may have contracted hcv through drug use, believe me, my intention is not to differentiate myself, but only to say that it is important to bring more attention to this disease and dispel some of the misconceptions out there.
Best to all