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Interferon with Colloidal Silver?

Interferon with Colloidal Silver?

Has anyone used Colloidal Silver during Interferon treatment?
I have heard of people not able to do the Interferon / Ribavirin had used Colloidal Silver
as an alternitive.
Well I have Hep C. Geno Type 1. And I have been making quality Colloidal Silver for many years.
I know all the tricks and processes to produce the smallest partical size possible. Which is
absorbed by the body much easier.
Well I have been on Pegisis (Interferon) getting close to 6 months now.
My first V-count was 790,000.
One month of treatment it dropped to 190,000.
And then to 4000, and then to 700, and now I am at 42 and looks as if I may clear this.
A couple months I had 2 8oz glasses a day of 15ppm Colloidal Silver a day.
I have on a minimum 3 glasses of Silver a week. My color is good, not Gray.
I just wondered has anyone ventured off into Medical Sience and expiermented like this?
I am not recommending anyone try this. I think it has helped me, I dont know.
Properly made Colloidal Silver in your home is the best, you control the quality...
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Are you saying that you are still testing positive for the virus at the 6 month mark?

I've been reading the boards for years and have never heard of anyone doing colloidal silver and tx at the same time. I'm not sure I understand what benefit you'd hope to achieve from this and I'd be concerned it would interfere with the interferon and ribavirin. I can't imagine any studies have been done as to how they would work together. Your virus is clearing slowly, so it does not seem to be helping you. Does your doctor know you are doing this?
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Don't recommend it as an alternative therapy for hepc or an adjunct to the current standard of care but if you're happy with it doesn't matter does it.



Trinity
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Are you saying that you are still testing positive for the virus at the 6 month mark?

I've been reading the boards for years and have never heard of anyone doing colloidal silver and tx at the same time. I'm not sure I understand what benefit you'd hope to achieve from this and I'd be concerned it would interfere with the interferon and ribavirin. I can't imagine any studies have been done as to how they would work together. Your virus is clearing slowly, so it does not seem to be helping you. Does your doctor know you are doing this?
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It wasn't clear.  Are you also taking ribavirin?  If not, why not?
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I am confused how long have you been on treatment?  I have never heard of anyone doing colloidal silver (which is pretty much not proven to do anything to kill the virus) and interferon at the same time and agree that it could screw up the chances of the interferon working (which is proven medically and scientifically to cure hepC).

You should have been undetectible by week 12 - what week are you on now? At the outside doctors stop treatment if you are not und by week 24 but every week past week 12 means worse chances of success in the long run and most people who do get to UND after week 12 but BEFORE 24 extend their treatment to 72 weeks.

Are you on riba as well you need to do both drugs to have any chance at all.
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This stuff is out right dangerous,silver is used in some bangages to speed healing and kill bacteria ,but to eat silver is madness
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BTW,,,taking this silver while in TX is someting ive never heard of in my life,does your doctor agree with this?...my God...im sorry,but i thought ive seen and heard it all...i would suggest you stop this silver now...your VL counts are not dropping very good either and the cause just maybe the silver...im in shock
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Interferon / Ribavirin have been know to cause emotional distress, maybe that is what has happened to you.  I suggest giving up the Colloidal Silver and getting on some AD's at least until you can think straight again.
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I personally, feel that colloidal silver is a waste of time and money, but that's my own personal opinion.  I've also heard of it turning people's skin blue.  I'm like, no thanks, I'll keep my pale, pasty colored skin over being a blue woman anyday!  Susan400
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LOL Susan you just made me laugh so hard!
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I was wrong. The 42 was the platlet count.
I did clear it, it was undetectable.

Silver is the ultimate in kilinng 1 celled pathogens, Baterial and Viral.
Silver Nitrate is used in curing over 650 diseases.
No known pathogen, HIV, or any others have survived after being
introduced to silver. Poeple used to out a lump of silver in their milk containers
to keep it from spoiling so quickly. Why the idea of Silverware?
Your fears are of the unknown. When I used the Silver my platlets stabilized and my White blood count increased. I have bee using it for over 5 years and I'm never sick.
It is absorbed itto your bloodstream goes through your liver and kills pathogens in your body and passes through your system within 4 hours.
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I take metformin for Diabetes.
Interferron / Ribavirin,
Medical Canibis helps for appitite and depression.
I take 1.5 mg of Alprazilam a day to help with the riva-rage.
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Your wrong is not dangerous at all.
There is no reported overdoses, and there are no side effects at all.
You dont eat it.
You put 2 pieces of pure .9999 silver wire into a container of Distilled water.
You hook electrical leads to each wire. 29 vts DC is perfect.
You will begin to see what looks like smoke coming from 1 wire.
Thes are ionized particals of silver. Partical size is very important.
The smaller the size the easier for the body to absorb.
I use a mag stirrer to keep the particals moving so they dont cling to each other.
And keeps the size very small. Also heating the distilled water first helps speed the
ionization process. I use it in my foot spa. It kills fungus to.
But it is also used to treat cancer. But gentel enough to put in a babies eyes.
Do some research...
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iI have researched it,im into some alternative things myself,but to say silver cures hepatitis is a bit far fetched,...can you post you medicial stasts and prove to everyone you know what your talkn about?
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As I noted on the other thread due to your extremely slow response rate to the interferon and ribavin you should consider extending treatment to 72 weeks to have any chance at all of succeeding and remaining undetectible - the odds of clearing at week 24 and staying that way are extremely extremely low.

The colloidal silver did not do anything for your clearing the virus except perhaps to make it a much slower process, you should really consider the extention to have any chance at all.
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I monitor all my lab results online.
Every liver scan and all others.
I did not use any Silver at all the first 2 months.
My Doc told me it wasnt clearing as quickly as she had hoped.
I used Silver, 2 eight ounce glasses of 15 ppm a day for 1 week.
The next scan showed a tremendous drop in viral count and my platlets stabilized
and my white blood count to.
I did not say it cures Hep C. But there are testimonies that it helps keep the
viral count low.
I'm saying Interferon / Ribavirin are powerfull drugs.
Silver is a natural microbal, And could it be possible that the 2 used together
could be benificial. Colloidal Silver does no harm to any human cells, or interfear
with any other medications being taken.
If nothing more, I think there should be more research in this area.
I have heavily researched the benifits of Silver for over 7 years.
The Good 99% / Bad 1%.

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I have cleared it at 21 weeks. I have 3 more injections and then test again.
Then she will decide to exstend it or not.

I have wents months without any silver nitrate and then
started it at heavy doses. The V-count was substanial and other vitals stabilized.

How did you form this opion on Silver Colloids.
There in Stores now to. FDA approved.
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To take this silver drink with your TX meds is insane..im sorry...and who was this doctor who approved of this,i just cant believe what im reading
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this  silver drink makes a cold beer and a shot of sambuca look like childs play
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No doctor would ever approve using this with treatment.
there is not enough research in that area.
Colloidal Silver is harmless to the human body.
It only kills baterias and viral pathogens.

Its clean distilled water with ionized silver particals in it.
Particals about 1/4 the size of an atom.

What documentation or reports have you seen to back up your opioin
about how dangerous it is. All reports I have seen are by Drug Companies.

I'm sorry I dont agree with you at all, please send me a link or report on
the dangers of Colloidal silver. Its been used in the medical field for over a 100 years.
Its in all burn creams. They even are putting it in air filtration systems and also
using it in water filtration plants to replace the old chlorine methods.
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Good luck,
Mike
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Try putting Colloidal Silver in a vporizier in your home.
It keeps the whole house bateria and viral free.
Perfect for cleaning cutting boards.

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when in doubt,check it out...come on..anythink that turns your skin blue  gray has me doubting,,ya better of eating blue green algae.at least if got nuteints in in
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It keeps the whole house bateria and viral free. "

How does it discern which are the good bacteria and which are the harmful ones?
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The only good bateria I know of are called pro-botics.
Which are in your digestive tract.
Also the baterias in yogurts I here are good, more pro-botics?
It just so happens Silver has no effect on those baterias in your
digestive tract as Anti-Biotics do.

What GOOD bacteria would you be concerned about?
I dont know of any I want to have on my hands or breath.
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i think the FDA should ban this silver colly stuff,,,but i dont think ya can...its easy to make...scary stuff.i wonder what HR`s sviews are on this topic
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It is noted that a person can consume 2 tablespoons of
15 PPM colloidal silver every day for 72 years without turning Blue or Gray.
Silver last the longest in your skin.
The guy that turn blue, drank high doses of CS and then the mistake was
he was treating a skin irritation on his face and applied large amounts
of CS directly to his skin.
Come on this is only one guy in a decade. He was paid by a drug co.
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According to this website, it is noted that Colloidal silver has not been tested or approved by the FDA.  

http://www.colloidal-silver-colloids.com/1568940264asf589d516d3615d746afdfafd/he5813.htm

There are more than several testimonies of a lot of people claiming to have done what wstack has been saying.  They may just be trying to sell the product or it could actually work.  I'm sure it works on some people more than others.  I would personally wait until after tx (as kind of a last resort) if you're gonna do it at all.    

Cory.
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Try not to get bad information in your head.  Do your own research and decide for yourself!
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How many posts are you going to bump up that say that none of us believe this as we have seen medical proof that it does not work - if you have legitimate medical sources that can prove it does something except drain peoples bank accounts and line snakeoil salesmens pockets perhaps you could post that rather than the 'recipe' over and over.

Otherwise it seems like Juicing101 again and fortunately there are plenty of very well HCV educated folks in here who will not let any new person fall for things that have not been proven to do a thing to help with hep.

Once again wheres the proof is way different than what's the recipe.

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See what it's like?
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Please dont get me wrong.
I want you to reseach this further.
The FDA dont approve it as it could put lots of drug Co's out of bussiness.
There is one Scienist that has been reserching and testing with
Silver Nitrate his whole life.
Do This Search:
Colloidal Silver and its properties.
I have researched this many years.
Some in a nose sprayer can head off a sinus efection before it starts.
You can spray it under your arms as a deodorant, stops bacteria from formimg, which makes the odor.
just research it, I want to share this.
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Yes you gotta know something is bogus when our resident health food guru is finding out what it's like talking to a wall over and over and over again!

I'm out this was enough and it's just redundancy to the nth degree for the billionth time!
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I'm not selling anything.
As I was giving the recipe, I was giving Health & Life to people.
Passing on something I have found to be effective and I believe in.
You have medical proof it is not effective against bacteria and viral pathogens.
But I guess your a Nurse or a Patient, That knows what works and what dont.
I'm not trying to get anyone to fall for anything. I'm not trying to educate you people
that all ready know everything.
Its simple, its safe, with no side effects.
And I make it by the gallon for about $3.50 a gallon.
I'm looking to setting them up at cattle farms to promote healthy desease free cattel.
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You have medical proof it is not effective against bacteria and viral pathogens.
But I guess your a Nurse or a Patient, That knows what works and what dont. "

Actually we have a medical expert who is a doctor and top researcher of HCV and he has shown us proof that this stuff does not work.

I WAS a patient I have been cured for over three years using interferon and ribavirin - I sort of do have a clue when things are not in the best interest of other patients.

Good luck to you then, bye.;
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I see alot of words, but they dont say anything. Just bashing.
Kinda like one of my 6 daughts, her lips move but she dont say anything.
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Bioavailability of Ionic Silver

Promotional claims made for ionic silver products describe it as having high bioavailability. Nothing could be farther from the truth. The Merck Manual makes it clear that bioavailability is the amount of unchanged drug that reaches the systemic circulation. To be bioavailable the substance being ingested must attain systemic circulation unchanged in form. Because silver ions are highly reactive they quickly form compounds in the body and therefore cannot remain unchanged. While it is the highly reactive nature of silver ions that provides its antimicrobial properties, it also causes the rapid formation of compounds and prevents the continued existence of silver ions inside the human body. Because silver ions cannot exist inside the human body the bioavailability is virtually nonexistent. Silver compounds such as silver chloride in the blood stream provide no meaningful antimicrobial properties.


http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/AboutIonic.html

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Never tried the silver,but give me a pound of gold and im gladly swallow it
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We don't know anything and it's really good that you are educating us.
Thankfully I and most of the other posters are cured so we really don't need any silver.
You really don't either but if you want to take silver it is your right to do so.
I prefer gold myself and it has been setting record breaking highs lately.
Good luck,
Mike
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Actually silver stocks prices increase with higher % points than gold....i like gold tho.it will hit 5000 bucks.silver future,silver will do better
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Your making a grave mistake, the drop in VL is just a coincidence, please trust me - had you not been on the Silver you would have made the same drop, people that have diseases are easily convinced that these things work when they do not...  Occasional Silver "MAY" 'slightly' beneficial to overall 'normal' health (if you fancy turning into the silver surfer) but many companys have been pulled offline or told to change their advertising for it due to claims like your own that it can kill AIDS and HEP-C when it most certainly can not.

you obviously cant be helped as you 'believe' and wont be told otherwise - there is no scientific evidence what-so-ever to support that it is beneficial for Hepatitis C...

Its probably affecting the response to your treatment, you shouldnt be putting your life at risk - when on treatment you should take NOTHING but the Tx drugs - you could fail treatment all because of the silver - DONT KID YOURSELF!

Silver was used in old days because they didnt have much else to use... and now because sick people are looking for alternative therapies online and some will pay through the nose it is just another one of the substances used in fake "ultra-cure" claims to make profits for others....

STOP TAKING IT IMMEDIATLEY!!!
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I can not believe after all these years that Colloidal Silver is even still out there let alone popping up here. Ahhh the snake oil salesman just never give up.
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"Passing on something I have found to be effective and I believe in."

This is a hepc forum and it's obvious from all the old threads you have resurrected that you truly believe you have benefited from the use colloidal silver   Please explain how colloidal silver correlates to the treatment of hepc and how it has been effective in your treatment thus far.  You have stated you are a slow responder, cleared the virus at 21 wks and your doctor pointed out you did not have the response from the treatment meds she hoped for.  How has colloidal silver been effective and what aspect of it do you believe in as it pertains to hepc?  If a new member were to see your glowing remarks about the use of colloidal silver and decide they should incorporate it into their treatment regime what benefit will be derived from it's usage?

Trinity
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Total BS in my opinion.

I could create a letter exactly like, however, I would make sure I spelled ribavirin correctly.

Trinity
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Why do you care how long it takes us to post?  Plain and simple it's a scam and we want everyone to know it.

You can tout this crap all day long and nobody is going to believe it.

Trinity
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