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If he leaves, the first bill you should forget about is his insurance. Good riddance. Then again I don't want to see anyone split up so maybe just maybe he is bluffing. Tell him he is only thinking of himself.
Bobby
Still I am so sorry you are going through this, now especially!
Deb
Aloha
Have you done your PROS & CONS list?
Is he responsible, accountable to his actions, caring, passionate, and understanding???
I 'm sure we all know the song well HIT THE ROAD JACK...is his name Jack by the way?
There are alot of good looking single HEP C guy's I'm sure available.
Enjoy it while he's gone.
(spoken from personal experience) :-)
Around the time I started tx (April), you responded to a post from someone wanting advice on living with someone who is going through tx and what to expect.
I showed your response to my wife and kids and it helped tremendously, especially during the first month when my sx were at their worst. My wife really took this advice to heart. She kept reminding the kids not to slam doors, not to make the dog “speak” for a dog biscuit; not to barge into the bedroom with their latest drama in life, etc. Bubbly, happy people can sometimes get on your nerves on tx.
So many times we concentrate on giving help to the ones actually on tx and forget that other family members may also need some support and guidance because it is so hard for them to understand what we go through.
Have you ever thought of adding to this and posting it in the Health Pages section? I’m sure plenty of people would be glad to help with some more suggestions. I would/will if and when brain fog allows me to. It really helps to have something to show family members to help them to understand.
Thank you very much….it really helped me and my family.
My following post is YOUR response to that persons question:
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Male, 41 years
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, Jun 19, 2008 01:42PM
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Stay far enough away that your noise doesn't affect me, or your perfumes or colognes don't overpower me... Or so that you don't hurt my aching bones --- or steal the air that I feel that I can't get enough of. Stay far enough away so that I don't feel like growling at you for absolutely no reason, but for some reason seems to be the most important thing at that moment to me.
Don't talk to me... Because nothing you're going to say is going to make much sense to me in the first place, and it makes me angry that for some strange reason I feel like I'm in a bubble and can't communicate properly back to you and I'm frustrated.
Don't touch me because it hurts - because right now my skin is on fire and it itches and there is nothing I can do to put that fire out or scratch that itch.
Don't play loud music or turn up the tv to blaring - because I'm sensitive to sounds and lights.
If I'm in a dark room - leave the lights off. If I'm in a bright room - leave the lights on. Sudden changes in lighting or temperature take on a whole new meaning for me --- and it's usually painful or very uncomfortable.
If I seem like I can't hear you - or I take forever to answer your question - don't take it personally - I may not be able to push past the fog in my head. I hate that I can't talk back to you - or carry on a full conversation. In my head I'm feeling guilty as it is and frustrated that I can't... Because it seems like it should be there - right on the tip of my tongue, but I just can't seem to find it. And I don't know how to find it. I don't even know where it is. So please don't just stand there waiting for my answer, I can't give it to you.
Hold me when I ask for it - because I need it desperately right then.
Love me no matter how much I yell or scream - or just lie there looking sicker than a dog.
Cook for me - even though I tell you I can't eat it - maybe an hour later I'll be able to taste it - or maybe it will not make me throw up again or I won't be queasy for the next 24 hours and it might be alright.
Know that sometimes no matter what you do - because you're not me, going through these things, you just can't possibly understand it.
Understand that none of this is personal... Or maybe that it's more personal than anything I've ever done before.
Know that I am doing this for you.
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NashPred and Meki, I hope you guys don't mind but this helped me and thought it may help RALPH.
Tammy P.S. I also agree, he'll be back.I just hope he doesn't do any thing foolish.
Seriously, though, just take care of yourself for now. This may not be a good frame of mind for making long-term decisions. Don't react too fast out of hurt, let the princeling stew for a while. Let him wonder what you're going to do. There's no rush - he'll still be an a$$hole when you're done with tx and you can figure out what works best for YOU.
Good luck.
jd
Syd
Of course I dont know the whole story, But I wish you well! Ive only been on the TX for 3 weeks Im trying not to be selfish or self centered also I try to have a possative attitude, Ive really been blessed with a good Wife and freinds Try to stay posative and pray for strength!
JIM
Congratulations on achieving so much and coming so far. With only fifteen weeks left, the end is in sight. I wish I were as far along as you are. And you`re working!
I think you`ve mentioned in the past that you suffer or suffered from from panic disorder and OCD. Also, since you are 44, I wonder if you might also be in perimenopause? All this (possibly), combined with the psychological side effects of your tx could result in quite a package of your own, especially if you save up all your feelings in order to be perfect at work.
Could you explain a little more about your role in the fight on Sunday? Was it pretty much one-sided on his part or did you dress him down less than angelically for whatever pushed your buttons? There`s a bit of a tendency in this thread for us to swarm your husband but in my experience, there`s more to a marital conflict than words can easily capture in a short post.
I wouldn`t throw out a 23 year marriage because of the fallout of one or two arguments during tx. Some people might even `fess up to one or two a day and some are still married! He may remember hurtful things you`ve said to him that you don`t, due to the meds.
People in cyberspace can egg you on but they won`t be there for you in the same way your husband can be. I`d cut him some slack, and ask him out to a movie, try to show some interest in how hard it is for him, too. He surely never really meant that you quit your treatment now, this far along.
Are you as faultless as some of us were quick to portray you or are you somewhat insufferable these days and he`s at his wits`end? Tx is a mighty cross to bear for spouses. My hepatologist said the number one risk of treatment is divorce and although I virtually promised him that it wouldn`t happen to me, I can see how things can go haywire during tx, no matter years of marriage under your belt.
Once again, congratulations on coming so far. People like you are an inspiration for those of us behind you.
I am sorry to hear anybody going through that, good riddance or not. I hope the best for you.
With love
Donna
The choice is yours.
Jasper
Ps. I lost the baggage and became a SVR!
I nursed my former husband back from a horrific cancer and surgeries...and then when I got it...he left. There are some that are takers not givers....and we all need to be givers.
By some miracle I am now remarried to a giver...who has put up with me being very sick for years now, and especially through this tx. I don't pull my weight, I can't. He pulls a double load willingly. It has taken a toll on him, and we have him in couseling to help him deal with my illness as well as his wayward daughter issues.
The main thing is to try to make it work, and if it can't to see through the hurt that it doesn't have to stay that way. I never thought a late life marriage would be the best, and the only truly caring relationship I've ever had, but it has been. So however it turns out,
just remember you are a good person, that's whats important...and there are other good ones out there.
I don't cotton much to deserters. It's like they are your buddy as long as the barracks are quite and their tummy get filled everyday...but the moment they get into a battlezone they are looking for the exit. Sometimes it's better to know who you're really dealing with....and not waste another 23 yrs finding out. One thing about these type illnesses is you really do find out who you are living with and how dependable they are or are not.
Sorry for your trouble, but glad you came in to vent it. Hugs thru this phone line.
mb
I cant add anything more then the others. But I feel for you!!!
peace
rita
How generous of him.
The suggestion to check out Al-Anon is the best thing I've read here. You can't fix the type of person who would abandon a sick spouse, but you can deal with your own feelings so his problems don't become your problems. The principles apply even when the other person isn't an alcoholic.
Whatever you decide - Really think hard -You've came to far for someone to say they may stay...Tx is for YOUR Health !
Your Almost done.
When he needed you, you were there for him as you stated.You being a Bxxxx is an excuse in my opinion.Remember IT TAKES TWO !
I hope the best for both of you and as someone said above don't make any harsh decisions as to insurance , yet.Only do what you have to do.
If you love each other it will have a happy ending.Either way it's meant for both to be happy in the end.IMO-New Beginnings!
I know a man that isn't happy with his job or lack of the work out there will become a BEAR.If he can't provide for you he isn't happy with that.If that is the kind of man he is.
I really do wish you both the best but I personally wouldn't give up your fight with HCV.Start a journal and don't say things you can't take back unless he's just being an Axx.Write, write, and date your journal every day.It really does help.Put all in your journal.Hold your head high and tell him to do what he has to do and you will do the same but don't cancel insurance just as yet.Find out what your hubby of 23+ yrs. is ALL about.Take it one hour at a time.Tears help remove the toxins from your body so it's ok to cry.You'll probably find out one eye sheds more tears than the other.Keep your pride that makes you-you.
Good Luck,
Happy Endings or New Beginnings ???????
Tammy
Let your emotions cool, do NOTHING drastic like canceling insurance on him, and see how the two of you feel in a week or two.
23 years is worth a lot of effort and sacrifice on both parts and the last thing you need is easy cyber advice to cause what might be a good marriage to end. My wife stayed by me through the horrors of end stage liver disease a liver transplant, and now in a few weeks I will be starting treatment. Our marriage has been tested but we have grown closer and our marriage is stronger.
I would hate to think about my life had I left her the hundred times I wanted to, or more to the point the thousands of times she probably wanted to leave me. I believe that marriage is sacred and that God will bless all of us who make an honest attempt to be faithful to our vows.
Peace,
Bob
geterdone
It's not so easy of course on top of everything you are dealing with. You would be surprised the amount of TERRIBLE problems that happen to people while they are treating. It would stagger you if you knew some of the things. I don't know why this is but....it just goes to show how strong we are.
Whatever you do, do not fall prey to him and pay his bills. Since he's already so generously let you know he intends to leave let him know he can manage his own bills - you are ill and need your own money for the future.......just in case.
Very sorry for you sweetie - life is not fair and this is another example of that.
Find a therapist or group so you can have more support and courage to stand on your own and up to him during this difficult time. I wish we could help you further but you know we are here to support you when we can.
Debby
Saying "do this or I'm leaving and by the way pay all my bills please" is just garbage. That is NOT a marriage - that is emotional blackmail and not a marriage worth saving.
Don't fall for that **** at all - stand up for yourself. It's women that don't and then suffer in abusive relationships that make it tough for us all. You CAN do it. Make him make a decision "I will not quit nor will I pay your bills any longer - you can stay and work this out or leave it's up to you" and then realize that YOU have done all and work on your life from there.
Abuse is abuse and someone making you risk your life for their needs is ABUSIVE.
end of the story.
I had to change my entire life --- I became a different person after TX --- and learned to be happy with myself --- and with those that I truly love.
I will NEVER allow another person to be with me and tell me how to live...
If someone doesn't like me for who I am ---- now --- and if I have to go through another TX of any type --- including the changes ---- personality and physically ---- then they don't love me. And I don't need them in my life.
I send you lots of warm wishes and love.
"You couldn't get rid of him with a stick of dynamite" blow him up and he'd still come back. I wasn't married when I started tx but I was seeing this chic and she was going to be there for me etc after about 3 weeks she was gone. I checked out Match.com one time and there she was guess things didn't work out for her. Too bad....
Red
I am far richer without him tho!!! Selfish people rarely change.
You have awesome support here. I couldn't have got thru tx without this site.
Keeping you in my prayers.
I'd be looking at HIS issues before I would be looking at mine!
Good luck...and our prayers are out there for you..
Dorsey
and you think that a 50% chance is better than none?? Honey, you need some professional help and please do not take that the wrong way...
I hope you get that help now rather than later...
Dorsey
Be strong and don't stop tx whatever you do.
Ann
BUT kick that bum to the curb...what if you were dying of cancer!! for God's sake!
would he walk out then ---YOU BETCHA !!
So get rid of him now...
We're here for you !
Dorsey
Marcia
You'll be OK by yourself with support. Stay in touch on this forum or a support group, or with others who understand, or even better, all of those. You really don't need extra interpersonal stress now -- it could very well influence your outcome. You're surviving and thriving. It's a hero's journey, baby, and it seems like you're doing well with the challenges.
Peggy
It is hard when they don't want you to talk to them, to keep the lights off, to stop checking on them, when they don't want to eat. When you want them to eat, to do something, to get out of bed, to not be winded when they walk such a very short distance. It's me watching for signs of something worse happening, and him telling me he's okay. He isn't. I know when he's crashing, and if he is I insist we're going to his doctor. Then he gets transfusions.
But, the point here is this -- in the waiting room people tell me that they know it's affecting me as well. It is. I'm scared he's not going to make it. I'm scared that this isn't going to be successful -- he can't tolerate the Ribavirin. Are they going to quit the tx? I don't know the answers to this stuff. Not knowing and worrying is stressful -- for everyone. Income is less because of this illness. But that's nothing compared to the loneliness of having a spouse going through tx, and the worry.
One day I was driving back from the airport, I dropped my mother off who had been staying with us to help out. When I got to my exit, I literally had to talk myself into taking it and not running away. I wanted to run away so badly, and I had no idea I felt that way. I felt so guilty, and at that moment I understood why people left the ones they loved. I took the exit, and I cried all the way home (it's an hour drive). I cried for 2 more days before I called my doctor and asked for anti-depressants, because I need help dealing with the reality of this. It's hard. I can't change this bad stuff, and I love my husband. I hate seeing him like this, and it's not easy to live with him. He mostly wants to be left alone, and then sometimes he feels like he's lonely and I ignore him. There's a lot of no-win situations. I know he feels bad. I know when he's grumpy with me it's because he feels so bad.
Sometimes I hover over/around him. Sometimes I beg him to take a shower/bath, or to change his clothes, or I try to change his bedding while he's up. I listen to him trying to be 'one with the universe' in an effort to not feel so much pain.
I think it's awful to leave someone when they're in the midst of this treatment. I can't imagine abandoning him while he's going through this, and I think we found out about it too late. I think he's not going to beat this. I'm really scared.
Maybe talking about this and anti-depressants can help you two? If they can't, then in the long run, you're better off without him. Don't let him take everything else from you too. I don't know who you have to lean on.. but you need someone.
This disease is insidious and the treatment is brutal.
I wish you the best!
P.S. I'm new here.
I was later informed I had Hep C !!!! I was in total shock to say the least. I had my knee replaced went through 1 1/2 years of rehabilation, then went through 1 year of the interferon combo treatment, that's 1 shot a week and 6 horse pills a day.
My Husband of 35 years stood by me every step of the way !!!!! he fed me when I couldn't feed myself, he bathed me when I couldn't do it myself.
That's what those wedding vows meant !!!! thru sickness and thru health !!!!! You should not even hesitate about kicking your husband Out, Out, Out !!!!!!!
Love doesn't Hurt...... honey he is showing you with every fiber of his being what kind of man he is. When people show you who they ARE BELIEVE THEM !!!!!!!!! Go on and finish your treatment, start your life anew, cancel his insurance and don't look back. Find you a man that will love you I mean Really love you, in sickness and in health.
I bet in a few years when you are happy and in love with someone who treats you like the princess you should be treated like - you'll say wow, those internet people were so BRILLIANT!!!!!!!! ;)
Seriously though - you are better off without him. Let someone else clean up after his third DWI...he sounds like a weezle and he'll find someone.
Just don't let it be you. You deserve BETTER.
Its difficult enough to go through treatment without having problems with your partner. My ex-husband and I split up before I started treatment, thank god. I can't imagine trying to go through this with him around. On the other hand, it can't be easy for anyone living with someone treating and I can see where a partner could feel the need to get away to work things out. A separation until you have completed your last 15 weeks might benefit both of you. Just make sure you complete your treatment, don't whatever you do cut it short.
Don't make any rash decisions. Wait until your treatment is over and both you and your husband are thinking with clearer heads.
If you do decide to give it another go, you'll end up going back into the relationship that much wiser. You'll have a better understanding of what you really need, and what things you just can't tolerate. Check out your local ALANON group. They'll help you decide what's best for you.
Wishing you strength,
k
Do what is best for YOU.
You need to hang with people that care about you as much as you care about them and have the strength to see you through the tough times.
I always give them enough rope to hang themselves and they do, so I'm not ever gonna be in a relationship again, cuz I cant pick em. But I have been able to surround myself with loving ppl. Please take care of yourself.
M4now
From Texas
Joey
Bill
I hope RALPH44, the original poster, found hope and help and support.
i'm not saying it was right or wrong for the husband to leave but maybe there was more to it and tx was the straw that broke the camels back.
glad to hear everything worked out.
as for the arthrirtis, many people have the joint pain during and post tx. including me. i hope it gets better as time goes by.
good luck on your 6 month test..
jd
Very glad you two are back together.