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Hi there everybody.  As I'm coming off of treatment yet again, I started wondering about juicers.  I've never used one before and I have no idea about what would be a good one to purchase, as far as quality, price, etc.  Since I'll be off my meds anyway, I don't feel like I'd be causing any problems to a treatment or whatever.  Anyway, after I get a juicer, what types of juices are good to do (nothing gross), to help with liver cleansing?  By the way, I can't take milk thistle.  I'm odd in that I don't like to purchase things online, so anything you might recommend, I'd have to get at a regular store.  I'd rather not spend a huge amount of money.  Thanks for any help you all might be able to provide me.  By the way, I think all of you are great!

Susan400
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Hi Susan,
    I bought one of those juicers from jack lalane and I only used it once. If you are interested I would sell it to you on the cheap. My e-mail is, ***@****  The reason I don't use it is because I just don't have the patience to work it like you are supposed to. It did work great though the one time I used it. Hope everyone is doing ok, I know I am into six weeks now and just going with the flow. God bless...
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Still too wet to work the soil here, but weeds slip out like buttah.  Ain't life grand?
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You answered your own q.  Beets are diuretic and diuretics should be used w/caution, esp while the body is out of 'harmony' or 'sync' or 'diseased'.  If the liver is really whacked, a diuretic can trigger flare ups of 'gout' and other RA's.

We grow and use beets in our 'greens', b/I shy from unbalancing my body.  So I like to know what the limited things I do eat does.  That's all.

The spring here is so good, we're working on our gardens 2 mo early and its snowing in Amsterdam!  And still flooding in ?Cali and nortre baja.  Even on tx, I've never spent so much time @home.
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Glad you two spoke up.  New Sojourn,  o wise woman, where'd you get  that bit of cautionary advice?    Beets are diuretic, and maybe that's not a desired effect for some people.  But  for the rest, what's not to like?   Gorgeous vermilion color,  earthy sweet flavor,  noble history of use as a liver tonic.    I especially like juicing beets with a few of their greens,  whole garlic cloves, lemon, parsley and a bit of tomato.   And then there is borscht....the first thing I make when I'm feeling liver/gallbladder congestion.   (Don't forget the fresh dill and caraway seeds.  Heavenly.)
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I have always read that beets are great liver cleansers also.  I do a small ratio of beets when I juice--give it that terrific color, sweetness and nutritional goodness that beets have to offer.  It's always possible to overdo anything--even things that are good for you in moderate amounts.
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Who said beets are bad for your kidneys?

They are sposed to be one of the best for the liver!
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well, thanks for the pat on the back, Chev.  In retrospect, I should have said this is the busy person's method of juicing and less than ideal, but still has value.
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Glad you asked about the juicers because I have been thinking about getting one also.  Hope you enjoy your new one and let us know how well it does.
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Thanks everybody.  I realize that the Champion or the Lalanne may have been the best to get, but it looked to be out of my budget for just starting out.  Today, I was w/my parents in Sam's Club (they have a card, I don't) and there was a professional juicer (Waring brand) there for $50.00.  The assembly was a snap!  Hardly any assembly required.  So, I thought this was a good way for me to go until I've had some experience with juicing.  It looked to me like everything was fairly well enclosed, which I thought would cut down on stuff spraying all over the kitchen!  What do I know, I've never done this!  I can't wait to get started trying it out.

Susan400
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I know about the vitamin, enzyme losses in not drinking the juice right away.  Because of that, I used to not juice at all, since I didn't have time.  Nor did I have time to think about creative ways of getting vegetables and fruits into my day.  I live in the country, I don't live near a juice bar.  So I came up with freezing it.  At least I'm getting veggies in this way, better than old "fresh" veggies, cooked or canned.  It's what my schedule will bear.  I know I'm not the only person who is too busy to juice regularly.  It is not an all or nothing thing, juicing.  You do what you can do.  50% of the vitamins is better than no vitamins.  Sorry if I sound defensive--don't mean to.  It's just that everyone acts as though if you don't do juicing for maximum benefit (drinking it right away) then you may as well just forget it, and I don't believe that.  Just in case there's someone else out there that doesn't have time to juice regularly, they might decide my half-assed method will fit into their life and is better than nothing!
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I don't know much about juicing, so I can't help with that.  But I would like to comment about the milk thistle.  It can be purchased at any drugstore.  Even Wal-Mart carries it.  So there's no need to buy it online.

If you're trying to protect your liver while waiting to treat, you really shouldn't skip the milk thistle.  Juices are great, but they can't provide the protection that milk thistle can.

Susan
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Beets are really hard on the kidneys, which are under enuf stress what w/the hep c.

Any box store will have a juicer in the $30-50 range which is good for a beginner.

Like i said, for me those vita mixes, champions and universals were all too costly, bulky and had to many pieces to wash.

Jucie losses over 50% of its potency w/in 10mins of juciing, so storing or freezing is kinda too much work for too little return.

And bell peppers have as much vit c as citrus and give a slight 'green' undertone to the juice.

Wheat grass is too much trouble to grow or juice, so I like to stop by a juice bar now and then for a fresh live shot of green.

Juicing, i've read, is the kindest thing you can do for your liver--all the goodies and none of the work to brreak the veggie cells down to get the goodies.
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I started with a Champion, which is a great basic juicer.  It doesn't do leafy things extremely well, but you can poke them through with the other stuff.  My favorite:  carrot, apple, beet, celery, parsley, ginger.  (you will get a juicer book with your juicer.  The carrot-apple-beet combo is sweet & nutritious.  Some people think it is too loaded with sugar to just chug it, and that you should dilute it with purified water before drinking.)  I bought another juicer later which is a twin gear model (Green Star, I think) that does leafy things extremely well--wheatgrass, parsley, kale--all that green stuff, but is not ideal for hard fruits & veggies.  (green stuff tastes ick and has to be mixed in small amounts with good tasting juices like carrot-apple-beet).  When I'm too busy, which is 99% of the time, to juice a lot, I just juice a big pitcher, freeze it in ice cube trays and store the frozen chunks in freezer bags.  Once or twice a day I put a few cubes in half a glass of water and fill the rest of the way with orange juice.  It's one way to make sure you get your fruits & veggies when day after day is too busy.  It's not ideal, like drinking fresh, but it's not heated or processed, it's all organic, frozen & packaged quickly. It also gives you a nice sugar buz when you're dragging.  I ordered mine on line, but the Champion can be bought at health food stores for about $100, I think.
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actually, i've juiced for yrs-sometimes religiously, sometimes causually.

To be honest, the best juicer is the one you use--no matter what the price.  @times I've had the 'industrial'  size and price one and a $30 one sitting on the same counter and I gravitate to the smaller, cheaper easier to use and CLEAN one!

Now I only buy a good cheap one and change them out every yr or so.  Mostly we leave them w/friends when we visit b/c we never travel w/o our juicer if its more than a wk or so.

My old standby is carrot, celery,apple--sometimes something else green like bell peppper or brocoli or parsley.

I do fruit in my protein smoothie.

The only rule for both smoothies and veggies is that it has to be a pretty color-no grey green sluudge!

An old fav from Maui is the 'bugs bunny' which is carrot, frozen yougurt, honey in a orange color.  So its both!

We always add dif supplements, protein powders, whatever, as long as it doesn't screw up the color or flavor.

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That model Jack Lelane sells is built like a tank. As soon as my Panasonic dies, that
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