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Sexual transmission

by njrsl, Dec 19, 2004 12:00AM
1st time visit.  After reading for the past hour, this could have come in hand during my treatment.  I comepeted treatment a little over ayear ago.  Upon diagnosis I contacted women I had physical relations with (limited amount I am sorry to say)  I had a previous 11 yr relationship & most recent before diagnosis lasting 6 yers.  Neither women tested positive.  doctor said it was not passed through sex only blood-toblood. we didn’t do anything that would fit I n that category.  
Now I met a woman, a fine woman this year.  We are employed in the same cmpany.  We began dating eary in the summer.  One thing led to the other after a few weeks.. We had sex.  I deceide this was a keeper & thougth she should know about hep c as I planned to tx in a couple of yers.  She feaked out– went bananas!!! she said I was indecent and should have told her previous to sex; I told her she could not catch. She said she heard different.  She got tested. She is negative. She does not want to continue relatins. said there is too much info out there indicateing that one could catch hep c through sexual transmission. I told her rediculous she just test neg &  told her I was not contagious because neighter parners in the last 17 yrs caught anything.  She says they were lucky & weren’t included in the small percentage who can get this.  Needless to say, she is not answering calls and is giving me the cold shoulder in the office.  (She glares when she sees me).  I believe she is intelligent and worth ever bit of energy. Please give me facts I can print off & hpefully she will reconsider- please pray.tx
Member Comments (19)

by jonihs, Dec 19, 2004 12:00AM
To: njrsl
The statistics are that 1 to 2% of hep c cases are from sex. There needs to be blood to blood contact. If you don't have sex that can cause bleeding by both parties, there is no transmission. I think you should have told her before sex and had the facts there to show her. I don't know why you think it's unfortunate that you have had a limited number of sexual partners, but that very reason is part of what I love about my husband. My advice- she's never going to believe you w/out proof if she doesn't already. I don't think I'd want to be w/ someone who assumed I was out to infect them. Next time you'll know different.  Joni

by eztagger, Dec 19, 2004 12:00AM
To: njrsl
For information, go here:

http://www.janis7hepc.com/sex_and_hcv.htm#std

by cbee, Dec 19, 2004 12:00AM
To: njrsl
I'm so sorry about what you are going through.  I was in a similar situation last May and we were crazy about each other.  We dated for awhile and one night things just went too quickly and we hadn't had "the talk" yet.  The next day I felt so guilty that I just had to tell him.  Unfortunately, he freaked as well.  He's been sober for 10 years and knows several people with Hep C so he was aware of how hard it is to transmit without blood.  He said it was a trust issue and never called me again.  Needless to say, I was pretty devasted.  I'm not going to excuse him for his really heartless behavior but I guess I would want to know beforehand if someone had something they could pass to me even if the chances were slim.  I won't make the same mistake again.

-cbee

by njrsl, Dec 20, 2004 12:00AM
To: ceebe and all others
Tahnks for you time.  this woman is not worth it .  if she is so ignorant after finding herslef not be pos av=fter sex wth me, then it is probably another issue, or her own insecurities.  I will not be telling any future woman of my condition as people seem to live in the dark ages still about hep c.  you cannot get it through sex.  well evne if it is a slight chance,  Some small precentage of people are not contagious. I am not contagious.  I have had sex with three women ove a 19 year period now and they have not caught hepc.  can someone show where some cannot pass the virus.  it is proof enough for me after that many years and three women negative hep c cannot be passed by me.  ty for your assitance., I apreciate your kind comments

by scruffy, Dec 20, 2004 12:00AM
To: Njrsl
Njrsl you have a responsibility to share the Hcv info with any person you may have sex with. They need to be able to make an informed decision of their own. It is a betrayal of trust not to do this.

chevy/ a mans judgement is no better then a womans and both partners need to work together to make the correct decision. A wrong decision can be disastrous for both.

by layla, Dec 20, 2004 12:00AM
To: NJRSL
She should have been able to make her own desicion if she wanted to have sex with someomne with HCV regardless of your thoughts on how contagious it is. I can see where she is upset you made the desicion for her. It's a trust issue also.  LL

by scruffy, Dec 20, 2004 12:00AM
To: Njrsl
On second thought Njrsl-just stick a condom over your head.

by scruffy, Dec 20, 2004 12:00AM
To: Tallblonde
As long as I seem to be headed toward getting kicked off the forum-I would just like to say that Tallblonde you are a stone cold b---h and your opinions are about as useful as a slap in the face!



Rev/ it's been real-keep up the good work.

Chev/ you're a wonderful human.

All you others who give this fight your best shot-my love and prayers are with you. Don't be concerned for me as I am shifting from very sad to very angry-HEPC WILL DIE and I will live large come hell or highwater!

by Xenigma, Dec 20, 2004 12:00AM
To: *
It is easier for a woman to pass
it on to a man than a man passing
it on to a woman. Regardless, whomever
you are having sex with should be told.
enigma

by mikesimon, Dec 20, 2004 12:00AM
This is the first I've heard of any trouble in a while. It's been great and I hope that it continues in this direction notwithstanding any previous disgreements. Let's put all that behind us and start the New Year with a clean slate. Mike

by njrsl, Dec 20, 2004 12:00AM
To: to those that tried to answr
Tahnks for your opinons but i wnat reliable answers.  does anyone know anyone tht says I got hepc through sexual contact?  These 'percentage' are made up to terrify the massess.  I want to tell me does nayone know a specific person tht can say this.  I went back on the internet today to do what you suggested to find info on this.   there isn't none!!  They are using tis excuse so hep c won't be funded. Making people believe if they don't shoot up, snort or have sex you can't get it.  Shooting and snorting dope you get it but NOT sex.  please if anyone has reliable infor give it to me.  ty.

by shebee, Dec 20, 2004 12:00AM
To: Ah....you were wrong...
njrsl, you were wrong.
Yep...big time.

YOU should have told your her.  Next time, be up front.






Oh, by the way....






She is gone.





sorry...

You were really a jerk for not telling her BEFORE you had sex.
If you would have educated her first...(Ah...the heat of the moment....LOL!) she might still be with you.  Hep C is scarry stuff!

If she really loved you, she'd still be with you.  Go for the Gold.

Oh, by the way...if hep were sexually transmitted easily...I would have it by now!  LOL!

I send you my love...
your,
Shebee

by jonihs, Dec 21, 2004 12:00AM
To: Xenigma
Where did you get the info that it is easier for female to male transmission, because 2 different doctors told me the oposite because of the amount of tissue exposed is more w/ women than men?     Joni

by scruffy, Dec 21, 2004 12:00AM
I read that it is easier for a male to give it to a female.

by scruffy, Dec 21, 2004 12:00AM
I should have clarified-there is a greater chance of an hcv infected male to give hcv to an uninfected female during sexual intercourse then the opposite. However I would expect deep kissing(french) and other exposures would be probably equal as the exposed surfaces are the same. Short version-if you care for someone take precautions-plan ahead.

by Xenigma, Dec 21, 2004 12:00AM
To: Female to male Transmission
My hepatologist told me this. (Univ. of Miami)
He said a female can transmit it to a male more often than a male transmitting it to a female during sexual intercourse.
He didn't mention anything about deep kissing just intercourse.
He said (Which really didn't need to be said) to be careful during the monthly cycle but my husband tested negtive after 21 years of marriage.  We never took precautions until I was diagnosed 10 years ago.  I don't believe it is easily spread though sex... male to female or female to male. Unlike HBV.
I would be more scared of going to the dentist or getting my nails done than doing the wild thing! But anyway, that's where I heard it from.
enigma

by Xenigma, Dec 21, 2004 12:00AM
To: 1 more thing...
Personally, I believe there is a 50% chance
of it being spread either male to female
or female to male. It all depends on what
you are into... (That's just my 'pinion)
But regardless, a potential partner should be told.
Then you will see where you truly stand
in his or her life - and yes, the truth
sometimes hurts.
enigma

by Ella Mackenzie, Dec 21, 2004 12:00AM
To: njrsl
I had a similar experience with two different men. I met a man and we started dating and then it got hot and heavy and I, too got caught up in it all and failed to tell him that I had Hep C.
When I told him, he freaked out because he had a blood disorder and his immune system didn't function at top notch.
We continued to see one another but he wouldn't kiss me anymore or anything so we eventually stopped. I was bound and determined not to make that mistake again so I told the next person, gave him all the literature and he was fine with it until a few months later, when he just freaked out and couldn't deal with it anymore so he stopped seeing me and told me it was because he was afraid of getting hep c.

I only know one person who thinks he got it from having sex with an infected partner but of course, can one be sure?
Maybe it was from kissing after brushing or nail clippers or something else.

I believe we have a responsibility to tell others about our hep c status so that they can make an informed decision.

What if they use your toothbrush or razor without asking? They wouldn't know that it could be a problem unless you tell them.I had a roommate do this..she used my razor!!!! I have told all  roommates (and we don't have sex) after this happened. I would never have thought someone would do this, but you never know.  I strongly believe it is irresponsible not to tell. I would want to know if I were dating someone.

I have finished tx and tested neg at 3 months and asked my doctor if I should tell potential partners and he said that even though it was 99% sure that it was gone, I might want to tell someone. It is an issue of trust. I don't want to get in a relationship with someone, fall in love  and then tell them and they leave. I would be pissed if someone did this to me.

by mbn, Dec 21, 2004 12:00AM
To: njrsl

njrsl, In my opinion you should refrain from having sexual contact of any kind with anyone or anything for at least fifteen
or twenty years.
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