Since the thread is from 07 maniac hasn’t posted since, no need to be concerned about high jacking it. So, does anyone know if there is any studies on the New Drugs shortening tx for G2s?
And if you are lucky enough to be a geno2 your chances of success are about 75-80%. That's pretty darn good. If I thought I had a 50/50 chance of winning the lotto I'd be damn impressed!
Soon as the new drugs are approved it should be about 75% across the board - money can buy that for sure! :)
Hopefully maniac33 has moved on. The thread is from '07
"Hepatitis is easily passed."
This is not really true. The ONLY way hepc is transmitted is if there is blood to blood contact and it MUST enter the bloodstream. This does not occur as easily as you think. It is not considered an STD like HepB.
"And no amount of money cures Hep-C yet."
I don't know about money curing hepc but interferon and ribaviron do about 45 - 50 percent of the time and the new drugs expected to be released in 2011 raise that percentage to around 70 percent.
Just once is all that is needed. Just like pregnancy, you can become pregnant on your first time having sex. Regardless of the number of times one does coke or has sex, precautions should always be taken. Is a blood cell or plasma visible to the naked eye? The answer is NO. So use your own straw, toothbrush, fresh latex condom, and protect yourself for what you can. If you touch money, doorknobs, handles, yor friends computer keyboard, a phone, the common cold virus could be in your hands. Touch your eyes, or nose, and you will most likely have a cold in 3 days time. Lots of ways to protect oneself from viral intrusions, not a lot of people take the simple precaution of washing their hands.
Hepatitis is easily passed, and just as easy to prevent the transmission with simple precautions. Viruses do not care who you are, your social station, or your relationship to powerful or to homeless people. They need a warm body period! And no amount of money cures Hep-C yet. Hep B once contracted precludes you from giving blood forever- currently. But at least there is a vaccine for A and B strains.
Oh my God...it is the riba....I meant Maniac, NOT mes326- please forgive me...it was a long day and it's so hot out....
If you are so f'ing scared about getting HCV- why persist? Why not ask what damage you might be be doing to your body in general and your brain my inhaling some random powder that is supposed to make your life or you more interesting than you are? You don't even know what you're inhaling....but you're all worried about a speck of blood on the straw? Then use a dollar like we did in the old days! Sorry...but you don't make much sense. It's the riba talking...you know if the virus doesn't get the cure will.....be careful
so blood to a mucous membrane couldnt infect you?
Asks If a tiny microscopic drip of infected blood was on the straw before i used it would I become infected?
Even with my nose in perfect shape???
No - you need blood to BLOOD contact. Not blood to skin or mucous.
Got it from ex boyfriend who shot up a few times thru sex..or coke straw.
goofy lol
i got it from a medical practitioner when i had typhoid...thru a contaminated needle.
Hindsight can go either way... it rather 'depends' on whose hind you're sighting.....
guess why they used to call it nose candy, yuk, all this talk about nostrils is putting me off my dinner, really, what a disgusting practice...hindsight is always 20/20 huh old chum?
FSG: we're not made of components that you can easily replace
Hope no one tells Pam Anderson...:)
BTW - t'was the straw that did me in..... dollars to donuts
yippppeee! whatever it takes, just have a nice life!
Heres the thing, all the people who I was doing it with are heavy users.
If a tiny microscopic drip of infected blood was on the straw before i used it would I become infected?
Even with my nose in perfect shape???
I just wanna gain more knowledge on this so i can know the exact risks and if anything warn my freinds who do it more routinely then i do.
But after finding this out I probably will just stay away from the drug.
Most of us will never know how we got infected. Itll make you crazy trying to remember all the risks youve had.
It could be on the utinsel that was used to chop the drug. Razors are pretty sharp afterall. Then into the coke it goes, and then straight up your nose.
It could be aqn infected one had a sore on or in their lip and offered you a sip of their drink. Then its in that cavity you have. Am I being paranoid here?
I like so many VN era vets believe they may have gotten it from the jetguns used to innoculate countless GIs.
Many VN era vets came in contact with human blood on a daily basis.
Because of this we have been carrying it around for 40 or more years spreading to many all along the way.
All I know is I got it so now I deal with it.
Yep maybe I am paranoid.
Good Luck my friend.
UNDo
If the antiseptic they use at the nail salon is Barbisol, that blue liquid, it is anti-bacterial, not anti-viral. I just posted a link yesterday regarding a study in which hcv contaminated blood was put on a razor, the razor was soaked in the blue stuff, and 7 days later hcv virus remained on the razor. So I would say nail salons, as well as beauty and barber shops, can cause major problems.
Now let's talk about coke straws. IMHO getting hep c from using coke once or twice is about as likely as getting syphilis from a doorknob. As I recall from the old days, the folks with bloody noses were really heavy users. I tried coke twice in my life, but the doc says it may have caused my hepatitis. I just don't believe it. The last time I had a bloody nose was in the third grade. But I've received numerous nicks at the nail parlor and hairdresser's. That would seem a much more likely source, as would sharp tools I shared with others on the job. But I absolutely agree with you, nygirl, that it's best to bring one's own supplies to the manicurist.
hate to come on all preachy and everything, maybe I would of resented hearing this when I was younger, but lose the drugs there bro....it's a dark place but you don't realize how dark it is till youre well out of it...
And it's really not about fun either, it's about desperation *for* fun, and it's anything but...I've seen some real horror stories, a really good friend of mine ruined his nose, and he only ever snorted twice in his life...it was the cut they used the second time he snorted...he can't smell that well, which leads to all these other problems, and he always has nose bleeds, cause that cartilage and things in there don't grow back if it's messed up (we're not made of components that you can easily replace)
And when you can't smell, it's hard to have an appetite, etc...just for doing that stupid stuff a couple of times, he's going to have to cope with this kind of major stuff for the rest of his life.....and that's just a minor problem, relatively speaking, to what you *can* do to yourself..... Even if you tell yourself, well, I'm not doing it as much as my friends...I just do it a few times a month or whatever....it only takes once to really jack yourself up.....You have to think of your body as being a fine car, and it reacts to all that you put into it...and if youre putting garbage into it, you might ruin that fine car, especially with drugs that you snort, or shoot up...you might take up something that your bodily systems can't cope with...
At least if youre drinking, say beer (and alcohol is out with this disease anyway, so are drugs) you can at least gauge it, oh, I drank 2 beers...but with drugs that youre snorting or shooting up, you have no earthly idea what is in it or how to gauge it, in it's intensity or anything else, and they can put chlorine, all kinds of ungodly stuff into cut......
unless you have an advanced degree in chemistry and a lab to test things out...
you can save yourself a lot of grief by just walking away from that shite, or if you need further proof, go to any major ER on a Saturday night, and see all the kids in there, suffering from one thing or another, cause of some lousy street drugs they were experimenting with...some people don't get a second pass...
if youre friends think youre a wuss or whatever, lose the friends then too...not every person who is young takes chances like that, once you get to my age, you kick yourself for taking yourself for granted like that, believe me....and at least in my day, they didn't know what they do now about all this shite....and these are just other reasons not to do it, we have already covered the possibilities of diseases no one wants to get...
Hey, what a coincidence! I know a gal that uses antiseptic after every procedure too, and she's also pretty popular! Your gal's name isn't Porche, by chance?
Thanks for all the info, I had no idea that this was such an easy way for transmission.
I'm really going to have to tell my friends about this seeing as they probably have no idea.
But speaking personaly I only do a line or 2 everymonth or so and only recently shared a snorting device, meaning my nose was most likely in pretty good shape. This must help my chances from contracting it seeing as how most people here seem to have been pretty heavy users by the sounds of it.
I really do believe there must be more attention directed to this issue, Ive never heard anything about anything like this untill one of my conservative freinds mentioned it to me.
Anyhow good day and thanks for the info
that I'm not going to any wonky nail salons anymore...I do know of one around here who uses antiseptic after every procedure, well this one woman does anyway, and you know, she's the most popular lady in the salon, I don't know about the other ones, but yeah, scary stuff....
It's becoming obvious that we need to stay out of most nail salons. It is one way that although they don't actually know the numbers for - definitely presents a risk. I told a woman here who is an absolute nail ADDICT and she laughed at me. I said please at least get your own kit and have them use that is it worth the risk? Well those tips are still just as freshly done.
At least when we were younger we were stupid and somewhat actually innocent of dentists and innoculations and piercings etc. but when you TELL someone it's a possiblity to contract a disease and they ignore you........they are just a plain old fool.
LIVA - Your doctor is right - how in the world do you know if any of those people have it or not? It's really plain LUCK in most of our cases that we found out we have it. I had no idea for over 20 years. My friends were not derelicts or sketchy people of any kind - they were rockers playing in clubs and were quite the sought after group by woman. Thank God at least it's not a sexually transmitted disease in most cases. I really doubt that a doctor tested any of those people that say they were. I had many obvious reasons I could have had it and had to fight for the test even though my enzymes were in the 200s.
We all have hep and I doubt many of us are sketchy in the slightest or ever were. But man I wonder if and how many people I could have infected and never known about it.
I'm sorry but I sort of resent the implication that all the people who have it or got it didn't wear Yves St. Laurent to Studio 54 when they snorted their coke.
Livaworst - I believe as you - I wonder sometimes if there may be other routes like you mentioned, dental, piercings (ears), manicures, and I guess we could think of a whole host of stuff. Just a couple months back, during my treatment, I went to the nail lady I had been using and she used a cuticle cutter on me, and made me bleed. I had told her about Hep C and that I was treating. I also told her "I hope you're gonna sterilize that"........she laughingly said yes, and just moved it to the side. I saw no antiseptic solutions of any kind. I will not go back to her.
I have a niece who had a a couple pints of blood transfused back in 1988. She will not go and get tested. I am still trying to convince her that she NEEDS to.