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Transmission question
Well I know that we have discussed this many times here but... I discovered a cut on my finger today that I must have gotten while making vegi soup yesterday. I didn't even notice being cut and there was no blood that I know of. But my whole family arte this soup and my mind works overtime. Does anyone know if there is danger of transmission this way. the soup was boiled for hours, but I still worry. I was UND last PCR does that help?
I read the original post and didn't know it was deleted. A question was asked specifically to HR and before he answered, Cindy posted a caustion that we don't have doctors so be careful about seeking advice (I'm paraphrasing her words-I can't remember exactly)The only doctors on the forum have been appoved abd endorsed by MH. Then I guess she rethought it and decided it was more of a research question than medical. I am just GUESSING, something I don't do too well as evident by my test taking abilities.
Hope this helps
As always, hugs,
Janice
Hope this helps
As always, hugs,
Janice
I have no idea, I saw that too. Maybe they posted it on all the forums as a reminder?
We are ALL a very paranoid bunch...it's just how we are. But as crazy as I know I get...I don't think that is a possibility.
Just enjoy the soup ;)
Just enjoy the soup ;)
I agree, it does get a bit paranoid sounding around here discussing transmission modes. By far the most likely method of transmission remains IV drug use, however with the numbers of those with HCV proving to be more prevelant than prediction models indicated ( for instance, the estimate for 2005 of newly diagnosed cases was off by a million+) after quite a few years of HCV infection rate trends historically DECLINING we do need to look more carefully at other possible transmission modes.
I agree you have a truth factor issue in that there would ba a percentage of patients who would not tell the truth about drug use. You could fix a percentage to account for that factor and you still have too many patients showing up with it (in a wide range of ages)which indicates other modes of transmission are significant. to be blind to these other modes is to not address it and try to prevent transmission via those modes. If you look at the fact that hospital infection rates are alarmingly high, you can not isolate Hep C and B from that infection rate number, if you have a high risk of other infectious agents in a hospital, Hep C is one of those infectious agents.
Salons and tattoo parlors are in desperate need of improved standards regulation and inspections.
a blurb from the recent report regarding hospital acquired infections:
Hospital Infections More Likely to Lead to Deaths, Study Says
The federal government estimates that approximately 100,000 Americans die each year after acquiring one or more infections during their hospital stays. A new study reveals the roots of this problem, as well as its economic impact on the health care industry.
"RAY SUAREZ: The numbers are sobering. The federal government estimates that each year about 100,000 people die in the U.S. after acquiring one or more infections during their stays at a hospital.
In fact, one new study, the first to quantify the number of these infections in Pennsylvania, found that patients with hospital-acquired infections were nearly six times as likely to die as other hospital patients who did not contract them.
Today, researchers published new findings about the causes and costs of this problem in a special issue of the American Journal of Medical Quality. Dr. Richard Shannon, of the University of Pennsylvania's Department of Medicine, is one of the authors, and he joins me now.
We mentioned six times more likely to die, but, Doctor, in the Pennsylvania hospitals you studied, is this a widespread, common occurrence?
DR. RICHARD SHANNON, University of Pennsylvania: Well, I think, Ray, it's very clear from the report in Pennsylvania that these infections occur far more commonly than we ever thought. And I think my own experience in my own hospital is that very recently we've recognized that these can be everyday occurrences. So, clearly, the problem is substantial."
here's the whole report
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/july-dec06/infections_11-20.html
I agree you have a truth factor issue in that there would ba a percentage of patients who would not tell the truth about drug use. You could fix a percentage to account for that factor and you still have too many patients showing up with it (in a wide range of ages)which indicates other modes of transmission are significant. to be blind to these other modes is to not address it and try to prevent transmission via those modes. If you look at the fact that hospital infection rates are alarmingly high, you can not isolate Hep C and B from that infection rate number, if you have a high risk of other infectious agents in a hospital, Hep C is one of those infectious agents.
Salons and tattoo parlors are in desperate need of improved standards regulation and inspections.
a blurb from the recent report regarding hospital acquired infections:
Hospital Infections More Likely to Lead to Deaths, Study Says
The federal government estimates that approximately 100,000 Americans die each year after acquiring one or more infections during their hospital stays. A new study reveals the roots of this problem, as well as its economic impact on the health care industry.
"RAY SUAREZ: The numbers are sobering. The federal government estimates that each year about 100,000 people die in the U.S. after acquiring one or more infections during their stays at a hospital.
In fact, one new study, the first to quantify the number of these infections in Pennsylvania, found that patients with hospital-acquired infections were nearly six times as likely to die as other hospital patients who did not contract them.
Today, researchers published new findings about the causes and costs of this problem in a special issue of the American Journal of Medical Quality. Dr. Richard Shannon, of the University of Pennsylvania's Department of Medicine, is one of the authors, and he joins me now.
We mentioned six times more likely to die, but, Doctor, in the Pennsylvania hospitals you studied, is this a widespread, common occurrence?
DR. RICHARD SHANNON, University of Pennsylvania: Well, I think, Ray, it's very clear from the report in Pennsylvania that these infections occur far more commonly than we ever thought. And I think my own experience in my own hospital is that very recently we've recognized that these can be everyday occurrences. So, clearly, the problem is substantial."
here's the whole report
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/july-dec06/infections_11-20.html
as you prob know, I'm one of the people here who thinks who thinks Hep C isn't terribly easy to get, through sex, etc...only because of the statistical amount of couples, (and they are vast) married and otherwise, where one person in the couple has it, and the other one doesn't...Couples who've been together many years and not even using protection....this statistical phenomenon just isn't present in couples where one person is infected with HIV, so it would seem to be that HIV is much more easily contrated thought sex...Just in looking at this statistical data, it seems to be that Hep C is much more the "blood borne" disease they've always said it was, and not as easily contracted by means of other "fluids"...
But am I the only one here that thinks it's a bit strange that Pamela Anderson is out there, publically talking about trying to get pregnant? The least I would do, while having this disease, is use protection with a partner...she hasn't done treatment (she's waiting for better meds) so I would assume she still has this....no one in the press seems to be even talking about her trying to get pregnant (in her 3 month or so marriage) within a context of her having Hep C...wierd and irresponsible to me, in that there is a small chance that you could pass this on to your offspring, not to mention your partner....
But am I the only one here that thinks it's a bit strange that Pamela Anderson is out there, publically talking about trying to get pregnant? The least I would do, while having this disease, is use protection with a partner...she hasn't done treatment (she's waiting for better meds) so I would assume she still has this....no one in the press seems to be even talking about her trying to get pregnant (in her 3 month or so marriage) within a context of her having Hep C...wierd and irresponsible to me, in that there is a small chance that you could pass this on to your offspring, not to mention your partner....
just to add, I'm quite the libertarian about what "consenting adults" do behind closed doors, I could never figure out why there are so many people concerned about other people's sex life and what they do in their personal lives...as long as they aren't hurting each other and leaving animals and kids out of it...I don't care what other people do, it's none of my business...
but I just bring this up for the message it "could" possibly send out, because she is a puplic figure...
but I just bring this up for the message it "could" possibly send out, because she is a puplic figure...
I agree to a certain extent, I'm not that paranoid about this disease as many....but having children with this disease? I don't know...a girlfriend of mine passed her disease to her child and it's caused her great pain...and of course there is monagamy and monagamy...anyway, interesting topic...I hope youre doing well Jim...seems like youre fit and frisky anyway...
I enjoyed that article. The infections they speak of are the 'nosocomial' (spelling?) infections, every hospital is terrified of those...I forwarded the article to myself at work so I can pass it on, thanks.
Check this site out= the World Health Org. it's very good at describing the virus and has some nteresting info:
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/hepatitis/whocdscsrlyo2003/en/index2.html
Anyway, nice to see some familiar faces and hopefully everybody had a nice Thanksgiving...
Cin
Check this site out= the World Health Org. it's very good at describing the virus and has some nteresting info:
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/hepatitis/whocdscsrlyo2003/en/index2.html
Anyway, nice to see some familiar faces and hopefully everybody had a nice Thanksgiving...
Cin
Pamela Anderson is well within cdc guidlines which do not recommend barrier protection to monagamous couples. As to having children, the risk of passing HCV to children is slight, and I'm sure many responsible couples have made that decision. She has a right to wait for better treatments and that should not exclude starting a family.
Im the worst for cutting myself while peeling potatoes, I really truley believe that even if any blood was in there, and by any remote chance was swallowed by anybody, thier own stomach acids would take care of it ,,,Dont worry be happy,,,,
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