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any suggestions on what i should be eating??

any suggestions on what i should be eating??

i have been trying to eat healthy and wondered if the "organic" which still has chemicals in it is the right way. would preservatives be causing my rash to flare up? i thought it was from the one med, but to no suprise its flaring up again. it seems to come and go. my fatigue level has been really bad as of late and i hate to go out looking all rashy,bruises,and losing my hair...i find myself becoming more and more of a recluse and hate it. any suggestions greatly appreciated.
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i found that hot fudge sundays from dairy queen were the best. my depression stopped for the 10 min. it took to eat one and i overcame my fatigue long enough to get off the couch to get one.
bobby

no on the rash,we all got it for some time.
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You didnt say much about what tx your on or geno type or liver status, but as this is my second go around with pegasys and a few Doc's I'll say this till I know more about you. Stay away from red meat as much as possible, shell fish (crabs, crawfish,lobster ect.) stay away from fish with scales, catfish and tuna ect is ok. reduce protiens in your diet, drink a lot of fluids, caffine is fine coffee coke ect. and actually may do you good. Other than that till I know a little more, its a start, good luck.
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Organic is good for everyone.  It may not stop the conditions that you are experiencing because they sound like what has been caused by tx.  In the log run eating healthy is going to be my way of life from now on.  I am a pop addict.  I am wrestling with stopping my Diet Coke habit of 2 or 3 a day.  I like water but after awhile it is boring.  I hate the flavored waters out there.  I do like a squeeze of fresg lemon or lime it it though.  Usually have it when we are out. Coffee and tea are okay but not a favorite of mine.  Maybe its the caffene that the coke has that I like...it probably gives me the lift I need to keep active.   Anyway sorry I can't be much more help.  
Nuts, Whole grains, Frest wild fish (salmon is an example), broccoli and other vegies and of course fruit are good for everyone.    Keep off the white stuff (rice, bread and potatoes.  Good luch girl and hang in there.
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before you go spending tons of money on organic foods, research the origin and the manufacturer, many that claim to be organic, are not, and the standards set by the government are not as specific and well followed by unscrupulous people trying to make more money from you.
'cage free' hens are not in some cases, and just recently I got an email on sponsoring a bill to make organic what it was truly meant to be. Research! not all that glitters is gold. Do your own homework. If you go out to eat, and are a vegetarian, ask if the fries are cooked in the same vegetable oil with meat products, are the eggs cooked next to the bacon, is that vegetarian sushi prepared with the same gloves she used to prepare the one with meat?  You have to be vigilant and don't rely on the label only. There are websites that serve as 'watchdogs' for some of these claims.

http://temagami.carleton.ca/jmc/cnews/01112002/c3.shtml
http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/2270/context/archive
http://www.wcpo.com/wcpo/localshows/dontwasteyourmoney/1f76a800.html
http://www.organicconsumers.org/Organic/badder111802.cfm
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Shelly i just wanted you to know that when you look at your poster name i swear it looks like strangshelly especially with those of us who need bifocals or have stigmatism, i know you prolly wonder why they do that but its not to be rude thats what they really see i know when i first posted to you i wrote strangshelly, it wasnt till i saw you post to jmjm that it was stang as in mustange,so please forgive all of us eye impaired people......

shelly drink drink drink i mix juice with water or teas with water , what i drink now i always drink with water, as far as hair mine just now slowed down about 3 weeks ago ive lost about 60% of my hair or more and im on shot 36/48, i know its hard at first to see it fall but just remember it will grow back ...
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you missed the point, rocky! is not the money spent, but spending the money on the real deal. it is not getting yipped.  paying more for a label that does not represent or does justice to the contents.  I am willing to spend extra, but want to make sure it is real.
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I read something somewhere, sometime, that the definition of "organic" is VERY broad. So yeah, if you're going to pay extra make sure what you are getting. I buy "organic" eggs all the time but they don't taste anything like the eggs I used to eat abroad from hens raised on farms.
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Icecream!!!! cones, sundaes, peanut buster parfaits, pecan mudslides, ooooo. Now that I'm done treatment, I just gained 5 lbs. talking about it.
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How is it going today? Hope the day is a good one. Your comment to "stay away from fish with scales" worries me as I consume lots of fish with scales and was told to avoid only the shelfish you mentioned and also raw fish but this is the first I have heard of this. I cut out red meat but replaced it with "fish with scales" mainly sea bass and salmon. Also reports show to imit tua itake to once a week so I'd get pretty hungry if I only ate tuna! Doc says I do not need a special diet of any kind at this point but I would be interested in any info on this and other dietary limits and suggestions you would be willing to share as I think nutrition/diet is important even if I am not yet at a stage I need a "medically supervised" diet I am keen on everything I take in being optimum.
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boy I really bothed that one I meant "limit tuna intake to once a week"
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..."they don't taste anything like the eggs I used to eat abroad from hens raised on farms." ditto! and did you noticed the yolk has a darker color with the farm raised?  
I am stopping by my local farmstand and buy their eggs, organic or not.
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It is possible to get good, rich eggs in the US but it isnt always easy to find them and they are not in all areas. Here you can get them farm fresh, free range that are out of this world good but I have noticed the "organic" ones in the markets still are a tad anemic and not as rich or favorful as the ones straight out of the chicken. Maybe it has to do with time lapse between the day it's laid and the day you atually buy it in the store.
If there is a certified organic chicken farm nearby buy them there. I do and they are laid that day and the best eggs with bright, deep yellow yolks and super tasty. Make killer cakes and improve anything you cook them with.
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Still haven't found anything like the eggs I ate in Israel, Lebanon and Syria thirty years ago. Certainly not in the supermarket or health food store no matter how "organic" or "free range" the label. Guess I gotta go knockin' on some farmer's barn door -- or go back to Israel and Lebanon -- no, maybe I'll try the farmer's barn first :)

-- Jim
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Or you could raise them yourself. That way you a get them while they are still warm but you have to contend with their noise amongst other things. If you do find a farmer, eggs are cheaper and better when you buy them from the farmer I have found.
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I totally believe in eating healthy(portions of food). And I know its smart to eat good(because rocker drilled it through our heads) , But , everything you described in your post has got RIBAVIRIN fingerprints all over it.
Think about it.
No, dont think about it. Just keep taking them. (:

I got out in the back yard last night after the temperature dropped back down to 100 degrees , around eight , and cooked a huge amount of chicken on the grill for my son and his friends.
Man , it was smellin good. After it was done , I was so nauseated from the whole thing I couldn't even eat , and of course , there was none left today. Hell , there was none left 15 minutes after I finished cooking it!!
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Well, since no one else is, I think I'm gonna stick up for the ribavirn a little :) Riba seems to get all the blame with skin problems but trust me, the peg interferon ain't helping the skin one bit.

Seriously, a healthy diet is always a good idea on treatment -- with the caveat that maintaining weight in many of us is more of a priority, i.e. eat/do watcha gotta do  -- but healthy diet or not, skin problems like you're describing are most often the result of the treatment drugs.
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Got to love those kids! When my 2 boys were teens they ate me outta house and home. What killed me is I would spend hours on some recipe and they would pour ketchup all over it before they even tasted it!

I used to go to the store for milk, since we went through 7 gallons a weeks. They would always complain how long it took me in the store and I would come out with baskets full. They still talk about this. I think they think the frig fills itself!
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Well sounds like your Doc and mine are on the same wavelength on the food, but to be honest I remember the drill well, but I don't remember why I was told to avoid fish with scales, but I didnt question it, except the shell fish cause here in louisiana we eat it a lot, the shell fish can be contaminated with Hep that cooking wont get rid of, now with the pegasys the fish with scales may have something to do with the retention of mercury,which is bad for the liver, but I dont know and things may have changed a little since my last go around, I'll ask when I get a chance, or if you here different, holler at me ok? well I'm having a lazy day watching tv, next shot is monday yuck lol see ya, bye
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organic fruit,veg,juice,milk and hormone/antibiotic free meat/chicken eggs is the best way IMO to try to stay healthy. The chemicals,preservatives artifical color and flavoring is what the body does not recognize when it enters your system. Our bodies weren't designed to injest what most people consume on a daily basis.

Whole Foods Supermarket is a great place to shop. They seem to be popping up everywhere. We have quite a few in Jersey, Think they started in California(?)

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Rocker , its easy to give you a hard time because you believe what you believe about lifestyle and nutrition with conviction and you open those beliefs up for everyone to either accept or reject . I choose to accept them , but with prejudice. I read every one of your posts and I remember the advice you give. I would venture to say so does everyone else that's not completely convinced that everything they are doing as far as nutrition and treatment is correct. And , I enjoy giving you a hard time.

Talk to you later. Just did 21/48. (:


"That's maybe the most important thing each generation does, is to break a lot of rules and make up their own way of doing things"
Hunter S. Thompson
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Yeah My Own, Whole Foods did start here, those ripoffs! ha ha! (shop there often though)

alkaline stuff...make your blood less acidic...veggies, fruits, (I personally dont eat much dairy, a little bit of cheese now and then, dairy is hard for the body to digest, anything hard to digest aint the best for the ole liver) not that it's as bad as cocaine or anything, ha ha! (gonna stay off the subject of alcohol, sheeeesh! lol...) Lots of Japanese food is very healthy, the stuff that's not sodium heavy...few fans out there I know of...oatmeal is good (I do mine with berries, cinnamon and a little soy milk), have it in the morning with one medium boiled egg....(the best eggs I can find...)

If youre going to eat something junky, (try not to very often) like greasy pizza or fried food, at least eat something along side of it with lots of enzymes to help digest it, a small veggie salad, etc...I try to eat some fish (salmon especially) from waters that are not so polluted...(there was a good point made to really watch the labeling, make sure it is what it says it is..to the extent we all can)

I try to constantly eat veggies (small portions, sometimes, just a carrot) all day, and now that it's summer, there are lots of good fruits are around....(Goof, you watch it buster, ha ha)

Some here know I have a passion for goats (cause it ain't dairy), goat milk and goat cheese once in awhile...I also eat an occasional soy yogurt and soy milk (soy kind of got a bad rap, they are rethinking soy, as long as you don't eat a large amount)

Try to cut down on sweets, they do a number to blood sugar anyway, liver helps regulate blood sugar...and try to cut down on red meat, if you need to eat it, try to get some that's not laden with hormones and god knows what else, this you won't find at Mickey D's....Since the liver has to deal with food all day, it's an onslaught for it, try to make the food liver compatible, not something that's going to make it work overtime...remember....

your liver loves Veggies!!!!! (Course, if youre treating, just try to eat as healthy as possible, whatever you can do, I realize it's a different ballgame if youre taste buds are annhiliated) Good luck to you...

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<i>Some here know I have a passion for goats</i>

News to me. Got any pictures to share?

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Hey, what's the deal with sodium. I try to limit it, but I guess I eat too much prepared food (veggies from the Chinese buffet at lunch, jarred tomato sauce, a few tortilla chips here and there, veggie buritos, etc.) Does the salt have a direct adverse action on the liver? What would be a reasonable daily sodium allowance?
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You have probably already seen this but here are some foods we are supposed to avoid. Lucky for me I do't eat these things anyway except for aged cheese (parmesan) and I am not giving that up! Did your sodium come up high or something or are you just asking out of curiosity?

FOODS HIGH IN AMMONIA AND SODIUM
Foods High in Ammonia Aged cheeses, Salami, Bacon, Ham, Ground beef, Gelatin
Foods High in Sodium Salt, Garlic salt, onion salt, season salt, Soy sauce, Monosodium glutamate (MSG), Canned soups, Canned vegetables & meats, Cured meats (bacon, sausage, ham, lunchmeats), Processed cheeses, Frozen
meals, Salty snacks (chips, pretzels, popcorn), Pickled foods (sauerkraut,
pickles, olives)
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I'm just trying to generally head in the right direction, and currently salt intake strikes me as the next point worthy of attack. Thanks for the list, I hadn'r seen it.

This paper <a href="http://www.hcvadvocate.org/hepatitis/factsheets_pdf/HERBS_color.pdf">reccomends avoiding Milk Thistle</a> but my Doc was OK with it. It also cautions against blue green alga and I take a 'super green' supplement powder with it listed as one of the last ingredients. Oy Vey!
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I know it's mind boggling! I am right where you are, just trying to generally head in the right direction too.
Luckily my preferred diet dovetails nicely with the recommendations. Whew! At least I am able to eat what I usually enjoy and havent had to start some gawd awful diet regimen.
I do however read the label and look for salt content now...amazing how much salt is in things you wouldnt think of, like ice cream!

You are lucky being in your locale, the land of the BEST variety and quality of foods in the country. You'd think this area I am in would have great food resources but compared to NoCal it is pitiful! I actually bring supplies back down from Sonoma when I go up there LOL
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oh, sodium huh? It's just that there is too much of it out there, and you get soooo much of it, that maybe trying to cut down on really salty foods is a good idea, (high sodium in the diet is drying to the skin too.) But of course the odd pack of popcorn or something won't necessarily kill ya!

Speaking of skin, saw your pic on the Aussie site, what a wonderful duo! Your son is soooo cute! You make a handsome pair...boy, if it were me, I get such vertigo up in places like that, as many times as I've been to NY, I've never been atop the Empire State Building...Yikes, especially if youre on grading and you can see down...getting dizzy just thinking of it, I'm such a whacko!

Anyway, know I'd said I'd post mine if you posted yours, but I'm chickening out, ha ha! naaa, I will I guess...I know how Tracy feels, it's not about looking good or whatever, I know that most are treating and are not going to look their best, it's just that I think it's human nature to want to SEE who you are talking with for so many months! Funny, I'll picture someone with dark hair and they'll have blond, .....it's interesting...I would love to see Dale and his family, cause he talks about them, things like that...Wish more members would post their pics...For some reason I picture Can Do with blond hair...whatever, I'm nutz! Anyway, really nice pic! Have a great sunday...
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Hi there. Please post your picture! I know you're beautiful! How could you not be? It is nice putting faces to names and people here have come to be such a big part of our lives. Just wanted to say hi.   tracy
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Well ain't that always the risk of a game of 'I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours'? Getting caught out with your britches around your knees. No worries though -- whatever floats your boat. Don't understand the fuss though -- you've already posted your glamour mug at Janis, right?

If you can't tell I'm pretty proud of the kid. Not for his looks ... he's a pretty remarkable fellow. Maybe I'll bore you with stories sometime. A real clown too, if you can believe that ;-)
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If I'm mot mistaken, I don't think youre allowed to post your personal picture on this site, but maybe the good people who monitor this site will let you slide cause you didn't know, hopefully...I might be wrong, don't always check rules and regs myself...but nice pictures though! I don't know??? Can Do has hinted that he's the real Fabio, but we can only guess...I mean, didn't he say he dealt in butter and ice cream? tip offs for sure if youre lookin... Jim often talks about the gym?, oh, we can only speculate...
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Risque is what this place needs! look forward to "seeing" you!
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oh please, oh please, oh please, can't you post the pic at the PJ party???? I betcha it's lovely and fun! Really! No kidding!  

Maybe I can dig up one or two of my old mugshots from the post office, just to add a little intrigue! he he he
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I just got home from the World Trade Center movie. John had a tough time handling it. It was intense.

Okay, okay, I will post a photo, but like I said I am so brain dead, I gotta remember how to do it.

So Goof, if that wasn't you, was it Tele? LOL
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Yeah, what a cute kid, and of course he has his daddy's scintillating wit! betcha you make more poopy jokes than he does, ha ha! Yes, I know at Janis, but they post this little tiny picture and you really can't tell what's going on... This Shane fellow really blows the thing up! ha ha, what's that song, youre so vain, you probably think this song is about you!...What glamour shot? you mean those places where they shoot your picture with your Sunday undies on for your hubby or something? what a riot...thanks for sending us your north winds, it's really, really nice down here...

Tracy: hope youre doing well, you sure sound good! I haven't seen you post much and I was wondering...
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I just went over to check out the photos etc. I feel pretty dumb, I couln't find them. I think Brian hid it from me. Any suggestions?

I like the way they have the profiles set up, lots of people from here. It would be fun if they all posted pics. I know what you mean Forsee about wondering what people look like.
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If you go down toward the bottom there's a link that says "member photo gallery". promise if you go you'll leave your smiling face!

foresee,
thanks for asking, actually having a decent day today. i'll take 'em where i can get 'em lately! hope you have a great evening. and the next day and the next day...etc...:)
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hi, know what you mean, you get used to this site being so easy to navigate...firstly, if I'm not mistaken, I think you have to join up which is easy...I might be wrong...up in maybe the left hand coner on top?, you'll see home, punch that and it'll give you a list of the things on the site, then you scroll down till you'll see I think, picture gallery? punch that...if I'm wrong please correct me...Wouldn't it be funny if one of the guys was like, Fabio going incognito? and he posted his Fabio picture? ha ha! I've had too much sun today....
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Forsee says: Wouldn't it be funny if one of the guys was like, Fabio going incognito? and he posted his Fabio picture?

I'm like Hellloooo? <a href="http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m64/hepcaustralia/goofydad.jpg">Check this out</a>! How much more like <a href="http://www.dmsports-wsmx.com/fabio.jpg">Fabio</a> could a guy get, ferchissakes??? What are ya, like from Hollywood or something??? Sheesh.

Sundie Undies, Huh? Now there's an idea. Go for it Forsee. Better than a good booze debate......
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Cool Goof, you posted the photo here! I checked out the photos over at the aussie site and saw you and your hubby, Tracy. Cool. You are right this is much better than a booze discussion!

Okay, Forsee, we want to see yours. I am so brain fogged, the only pic I can find is at the PJ party in Jamacia. Pretty risque!
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You're exactly like I imagined. But, who's the guy with the glasses?
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So how did it go at the doctor appointment?? Let's hear the report!
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Did you think that was me? Ha ha ha, what a laugh. No no... I just posted that cause I thought it resembled what I might look like if I wasn't me, which of course, I am, though often I feel like I'm not. Plus, I think that's the Eiffel Tower, and well, I hate to admit it, but I've never even been to Canada, let alone had my picture took on any tower.

SFgirl -- we're waiting!
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okay, howzabout you Florida Man? a nice pic with you out on the links, big ole Big Birtha Driver in your hands? spiffy two-tone golf shoes, it would be truly a vision...
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Am composing the results of the doc appt and will post later. Amazing, it is a BB and the shoes are two-toned.  Where's that website - the Aussie one?
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