cocaine intraveinous use?

its been 72 hours since intraveinious cocaine use, will this still be detectable in a urinalysis test?

[miked]

I hope so.  Stop that stuff!

[Morgaina]

Rev and Bobby pretty much have it cased. YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO EVEN TRY TREATMENT IF YOU ARE STILL DEALING WITH ADDICTION. (woops, caps were stuck). But I guess yelling was relevent there. You couldn't make it through treatment unless you kick and you wont be successful at your next job for the same reason. Not a judgment, just a reality. You have reached, now ponder what we say! Peace to you!!

[Morgaina]

You ever spent time as a councillor? Do so well with the facts and little drama!

Metro, you talking to give our hearts excersise or you listening?? Or do you care?

[GrandOak]

Is this for real or simply another troll on the forum?

[miked]

By the way....why don't you invest a few hours reading all the posts by people with Hepatits C who have somehow come in contact with similar behavior to yours.

[Forseegood]

Please see someone for help, Narcotics Anonymous, etc...drug addiction that intense can rarely be stopped by a person themselves, alone...I imagine you want to live, which is why you asked about this on this forum in the first place...stay alive, it's better then the alternative...

[metro03]

i was diag with hep c way before my drug use ever started

[Forseegood]

which means what? I'm just saying that you should think about recovery, as someone here pointed out...end stage liver disease is neither a pretty way to die, or fast...taking those type of drugs along with having hep c is taking your body for granted, absolutely...think about keeping it alive and get help...

Though an electrical cardiac malfunction due to cocaine taken intravenously is a much quicker way to die, they both end up taking you to the same place...I sincerely hope that you really get the message of what you are doing and can somehow get help...be well and stay alive...

[metro03]

id very much love to quit and get away from all of this but what do i do for income or to support myself,everybody i know even my guardians would blame me for my usage, i use to use just about everyday now maybe once every couple of months actually not much fun anymore!

[Forseegood]

who are you talking to?, yourself or us...you need to get help for your drug addiction as it might kill you sooner then later, we are a hepatitis c support forum, you need to find a drug rehab or some other related group...you can give excuses till the cows come home, your situation is what it is...

[metro03]

what are warning signs of hep c worsening??

[dyce]

Not tryin to scare you but WARN you, if your doin the comfortably numb thing, especially sharin, your chances are great for hiv and hep. and or a quick rush to the grime reaper .

[metro03]

have never shared, always new from pharmacy, anyways what are the signs of hep c worsening

[Kalio1]

it doesnt matter what the signs are you cant treat it if you are using. I'd worry about your heart giving out if you are shooting coke. Please, get some help.

[FlGuy]

The first sign of a worsening condition is the feeling of fright and impending doom - sort of like you're about to get caught dirty in a drug test.  At one point it wasnt new from a pharmacy.

[Forseegood]

Metro, don't mean to sound cruel or not caring, but ususally 'using' drug addicts are so gone from reality that it's hard to discuss these issues with them in any kind of meaningful way...

Can you see the logic in what you are saying? youre meticulous about your needle usage, which is probably a good thing to be sure because youre not passing this horrible disease on to other people...but as youre so meticulous about not sharing your needles and finding high paying jobs, etc....youre shooting cocaine which means your vitals can stop after any one shot..might not be the next one, or the next 10, it's anybody's guess when, but you could die on any one of them and many people do, the ER's are full of em...if someone asked you to jump of a 3 story roof you'd think they were crazy, yet your risking a heart attack and it's all cool apparently...

There are many symptoms to this disease, and it's a particularly unpleasant disease to have if youre doing drugs, alcohol while having it...these accelerate progression...it all depends on your level of liver damage, doesnt sound like you know that yet, you can only really know that with a biopsy and going to a liver specialist...

I'd get a beat on my addiction problem first thing, while I was doing these other medical things, cause if you die from your usage, what good is a liver specialist going to be for you?

here is a site that will answer most of your questions re disease progression...I wish you the best of luck, youre going to need it if you want to come to terms with your addiction, youre playing with fire and it's scary, to me at least...

http://janis7hepc.com/

[desrt]

The signs of chronic hep c worsening are: you get a needle biopsy done of your liver, then later you get another one and they say,"Oh, the second piece of liver looks more f____ed up than the first one." The signs of acute hep are: your eyes turn yellow, your s___ turns white, and your **** turns brown. Also you feel like someone hit you in the stomach with a baseball bat.

[Forseegood]

Really inspiring story and thanks for your honesty for sharing it...just wanted to add that I think NA is a little scary too and not everyone gets sober there, but it does work for some people....I know drug addicts that just go to AA because they feel its a better more mature program with many more sober people...

or there are other programs and counseling, etc...there are a variety of things, not everyone can get sober on their own, but some do, like yourself...I also think your ideas of just changing friends and locations, etc, is a really good one....

Support groups at least provide a place where you can meet others who've been down that path and know your
"newbie BS" and have managed to stay clean for many years...this is prob a lot better then trying to hang out with the same old people and just telling THEM youre trying to stay clean....I agree with you, BIG JOKE, "A drowning man takes those nearest" and no is drowning more then a using drug addict...

[bobbyullc]

hey don't worry about the hep c .... the blow will kill you long before that. why worry about getting a job you will loose due to drugs anyway. at least you do not waste it by snorting!!!!

[Morgaina]

Always could be, but our energy wont be wasted by newbies coming in to listen. If we have the time right now, it couldn't be wasted!!!

[Forseegood]

well he's not exactly insulting anyone, which is always a good sign...I vote for him being honest about it, but I like to look on the bright side sometimes...

Thought about him while I was driving just now, there's a telling scene about a cocaine injection overdose in "Pulp Fiction"... too bad that a movie like that won't scare enough people off of a thing like that ...

You can only wish that someone, some where "gets it" and years from now will scratch their head and wonder, "what the h@ll was I thinking???" maybe some can relate to that here, he he he...

[way]

I have had hepC for about twenty years and didn't even know I had it until I got some routine testing done and liver enzymes were high. This can be a very slow moving disease, so there's really NO way to know if you are getting worse. I want to add that if you are jacking yourself up on drugs that make you feel good AND if you were feeling some chronic fatigue then you wouldn't know it.

Three years before my Diagnoses I was smoking meth and working in the casinos in Las Vegas. Couldn't quit and was constantly trying to but then a friend would come over with some stuff. I had to TOTALLY break free from my old life to stop using. My brother urged me to move accross the country move in with him and his wife and start a new life. Thats what I did. Clean for three + years.

When I was using in Vegas I was probably feeling the fatigue of HepC and trying to self medicate to feel more normal and have some energy and motivation. Either that or as addiction goes it takes more and more to feel normal

Then after becoming clean my energy never returned. I was really feeling fatigued. It wasn't normal. I didn't want to do anything but what I had to do, so I got insurance then went to the doctor.

I think I know what you are going through, it's denial. You think you are in control but your NOT. The fact that you are playing russian roulette with urine tests and looking for work proves it.

It's really hard to change when everybody you know uses. N.A. didn't work and hearing peoples war stories just made me jones more. Injecting drugs is really a disgusting habit(and so is a glass pipe) You can't say it's pretty when you have to hide and lie. Then when you can't have a normal life or a mate that doesn't use then your whole life becomes a lie.

Sorry to lecture but been there done that--Trust me it's easier to break free. Make a clean break and move to another state far enough away that you can't make the drive to "cop". And don't keep in touch with anyone who uses. It's your friends who will keep bringing you down and also the dealers who you are supporting. If you get busted no one will care and the people who owe you money will be glad that they don't have to pay you.

It's a very BAAAAD life. get out of it before you wake up and your fifty with nothing to show for anything and not one friend.

[susan400]

I've been trying to keep quiet lately, but I can't now.  I.V. cocaine usage back in 1982-83 ruined my life!  I had no credit, no job, got arrested, both my husband and I at that time were using so our marriage disappeared, almost lost my son, lost all my self worth, had no money and no food and barely had any clothes on my back.  I ended up going home to my loving parents with NOTHING but the clothes I was wearing and my 2 year old in my arms.  Then, many years later find out I have Hep C.  If it were not for the Lord and many prayers of my family, I'd be dead and my son would have been raised by social services.  As it was, he ended up with severe mental illness.  Please, get some help.  Check yourself into a rehab.  Go to a church.  Or go to your synagog, or your parrish, or whatever you believe in.  This is no way to live.

Susan

[way]

Thanks for you kind words. I was trying to have a little more compasionate, because I know how hard it is two stop when your whole life is in it. It only take a few years and then all your friends are users. Your self esteem is in the gutter when you realize that you don't even know how to act around strait people.

Ive never been to a rehab but I know that people relspse off those programs and and probably a high precentage know where to cop and still have their old connects. Some people might feel better to be around other people that are trying to quit I guess you could call that support but I thought it looked alot like temptation.

[settecasi1]

Virus before Cocaine use. Hmmm? Remember, the drug is not produced under clinical laboratory conditions.
It's more like made in a bath tub in the jungle.

Geeeeeeesh

[susan400]

I, too, had to change states to get out of the drug scene.  I moved from Ohio to Florida.  However, sometimes it seems like you find a different type of addiction to replace the old one. In my case, I got off the street drugs and then, since I wasn't in any counseling or NA/AA group, ended up drinking.  I managed to get off of that, too, after years of doing it. But, there again, it was through some hard trying and praying and suffering through it.  I finally got one on one counseling. Now, I don't miss that lifestyle at all.

Susan

[Myown]

I hope you take heed to the sound advice everyone has given you.

Something for everyone to think about....

Several of my friends who are extremely liberal, are totally opposed to people being "subjected" to drug testing for jobs.
They feel it is a violation of someones rights, no matter what  position the person is applying for.  

Metro is looking to stop drug use, which is a good thing, but if this company didn't have the test, he may have just continued in his misery and depending on what his job entails, could also have caused an accident or worse yet, cause someone to lose their life, if his "good judgement" is to be depended on, railroad worker etc..

This post is proof, as far as I am concerned, that drug tests at jobs help deter people from using drugs,even if only while at work where they may possibly endanger someone elses life.

If a drug addict wants to kill himself, sometimes nothing anyone can do to prevent, but to take down someone's husband or son because of poor judgement is truly sad and unfair.

[mikesimon]

Thank you both. I admire your stength and your honesty. Mike

[GrandOak]

While I didn't leave the state, I too switched one addiction for another by moving to a larger metropolitan area where the drugs might have been more available, but due to other factors I did not seek them out and simply switched to the legal drug addiction of alcohol.

After years of several secular treatments and self-help treatment programs, I was finally delivered when I found a solid faith-based treatment program.  It was through learning that my addictions were rooted in body, mind, and spirit.  It was by addressing all three rather than the two of body and mind of most other programs, that I was able to find deliverance for a longer period now than I have ever previously known.

Then I got clobbered with this insidious disease, for which I feel I can blame no one but myself for by the poor choices made in my past.

I also have heard similar testimonies from countless others who through the program I used, and the more international recognised Teen Challenge (founded by Dave Wilkerson of "The Cross and the Switchblade" fame).

Of course we probably don't want to spawn another religion debate, but I offer my experience up as yet another possible path one might desire to take if they are serious about finding help.  The first step has been taken and a hand has been extended, we simply need to grasp it.

[Algernon]

Don't know if you're still reading here but if you are...

I used to be really cool.  Thin, hip, and shooting heroin.

Finally gave that up and became addicted to school.  Became a professor, had a couple of kids, was still really cool--I thought that my drug use was just a colorful part of my life story.  

Guess what.  HepC is not cool at all.  You'll eventually look and feel like ****.

I've been there and I know you're not going to quit anytime soon.  But I hope you hit upon something in life (love, work, a really good canine companion) that will stop you in your tracks and get you off this train.  Otherwise, you're going to crash and burn.

Been there, Deb

[sfbaygirl]

That was a great post! I may have to copy that one. Welcome to the forum. Did you use Kneedle on purpose? Or was that brain fog? You are in good company.

[Jeffyboy]

It is Ironic isn't it? Those of us hwo have experimented with the kneedle or even became addicted are now paying for it with 4 shots a day.  I mean it seems the Kneedle is what took our lives and now it is the kneedle which is our only hope. It gives new light to he who lives by the kneedle will die by the kneedle. Come on if you tke the kneedle full of coke and toss it to the wind it is then you will start to live and see that the zest of life is not when you get high but when you see how high you can go with your gifts and talents. there is something you can do better that most, shooting coke is easy. Taking the challenges of life takes perseverance, and perseverance builds character, and when you have character the visions of life become clear. You will then see that the point of no return is just a fantasy dreamt up by some half witted coke dealer in a federal pen trying to justify his own actions.

[Jeffyboy]

Just a side note to everyone it is four shots a month. that was just my one brain cell involved in an ADD moment. sorry.LOL

[Forseegood]

Really good post Algie...

My Own: I personally think it's okay for drug co.s to demand drug tests to new applicants and to people who already work for the entire co., etc...as long as they are given to everyone in the co. and there's no discrimination within...

there are co.s out there doing a lot of very specific things that need to be done by sober people...just cause I'm a liberal doesn't mean I don't look at every issue on a case by case basis...hope youre having a good week...

[Not 4 Gotn]

I was just reading through some of the postings.  I used IV cocaine in the late 80's/early 90's.  I also got a few tatoos and used many other drugs.  I did not find out about the Hep C until a couple years ago, after being drug free for 18 years.  It was a horrible diagnosis, knowing I brought it on myself.  I went through 2 rehab stays, many relapses, but finally turned to God and prayed every day for the desire to leave me (I know that may seem corny, but it worked for me).  It was like I woke up one day and I had NO desire whatsoever.  And, like you explained, during the last year of use, I didn't even enjoy it anymore.  You must concentrate on getting better!!!!  I lost everything to drug abuse.  Even though I have HepC now, I am still working full time and still maintaining, even though it's hard.  DON'T GIVE UP!  I now have been married 10 years and have a beautiful 9 year old son!  Nothing is perfect, but
what more could you want, except your health?  Trust in family members who love you, STOP "hanging out" with the users and most of all learn to LOVE yourself!

[Jeffyboy]

That was very inspiring I to was made a new creation in christ I know that the Hep is my consequence for the life that i have lead in the past and I also know that Jesus has already healed each and every one of us. The Cross is not a common thing and the Blood of Jesus cleanses everything, andmakes all things new. Most would not agree but I know it is true however there are some things reserved for God to know. We tend to searsh for the answers but there is but one thing for us to do and that is to remember that love is above it all. We must rise above our pain and the only way to do that is to forgive ourselves and others. My first injection will take place sometime in the next week or two, I am nervous but I am not afraid I am geno type 1A and the inflamation (inflammation) is so bad I can feel it.

SFbaygirl you are right kneedle was from brain fog but not from the meds that is something I bring in to this myself I know what I am saying but have little spelling knowledge it would be the shortest speeling bea in the Histemine of all thyme, LOL. You are allowed to copy any thing I write but I want 10 % of anything you sell which would probably be 10% of 0 which would be 0. Notice I didn't try to spell zeebro,LOL.

[sfbaygirl]

I was just kidding you about spelling. My ability to spell has really gone out the window with this stuff. One day I can spell the next I can't. I quess it is a sx! Hope yours doesn't get any worse when you start tx, I may have to take up my pig latin again! LOL

You will be fine starting tx. to some of us, it is a relief to start. Many here have had symptoms disapear while on tx and feel better to some extent. Of course you won't know until you start.