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Wish I had time to dig up some old threads and studies but going out the door, so take these comments as recollections to be doubleDouble-tussin dm-checked.
So...where I come out is that marijuana smoking is bad for the liver except during treatment where it may have benefits in helping people comply with their drug doses by alleviating many side effects.
Since nobody knows for sure - it might be worth it to do it only when absolutely necessary and not chance it.
For every study that says it's good you can probably find one that says it's bad, you know?
But logically it's more stress on the liver to have to process all the extra toxins (but I can't talk really becuase I found it impossible to quit smoking cigarettes during treatment as bad as I knew it was even when I had a six point hemo drop in ten days...I laid in bed so I wouldn't faint and smoked. Smart huh?)
I'm not certain that the studies Jim mentions actually proved a causal link between chronic marijuana use (as in daily) and advancing fibrosis.
I *think* (and again, I could just be blowing smoke, as it were) that the studies just demonstrated a correlation. There could be many causes. It could be that chronic dopers also have higher injection drug use histories, or increased alcohol consumption, etc.
We have to be careful to parse the language of these studies carefully, and to not infer things that studies in fact do not say.
Amen, Neptune. That thinking can also apply to all studies we read, you make a very salient point. That point should be well considered when looking at studies of marijuana use as often the population the study participants are taken from are rehab centers and prisons. Obviously there is a known higher rate of substance abuse ( of all types of substances) amongst this population which does affect the study results. I am referring to the same study Neptune referred to, the study that attempts to make a causal correlation between higher levels of liver damage and pot smoking. Also one must look to the financiers of such studies to analyse the motivation for the results.
Several studies have shown that marijuana use helped to reduce the treatment drop out rates for patients on therapy due to it's mitigation of some of the side effects ( primarily pain and nausea) caused by treatment.
it seems that through the years even though there is great incentive to prove all these bad things about marijuaana, nothing ever seems to emerge. how incredible? it seems ive never even seen anything about resulting lung problems, and even i would wonder how you could smoke (marijuanana only) all your life and not hurt your lungs. if the legends of willie nelson are true (chronic continuous smoker), it seems like someone like that would eventually have a problem associated with it, and the news organizations as well as the govt would trumpet those results. surely the govt has spent millions trying to "prove" how dangerous the drug is. yet after all these years it appears to me to be the least dangerous of all the mind altering drugs.
Here are a few studies you might want to look over. All talk about accelerated rates of fibrosis and/or stetosis with Cannabis use. But as mentioned before, cannabis can effectively be used during treatment to combat side effects and therefore help compliance.
Chicago SunTimes 5/3 has article on IL Senate vote to legalize medical marijuana. Advanced practice nurses could write for--and that group does support. Yeah...AMA opposes.
The witch doctors want to control our lives. A web cite:
http://www.medicalmarijuanaprocon.org/bin/procon/procon.cgi?database=5%2dD%2dSubs%2edb&command=viewone&id=18&op=t
On the positive side, studies are showing that marijuna (THC) acts as an anti-tumor agent against lung cancer.
A number of studies suggest that chronic marijuana smoking is bad for the liver and accelerates fibrosis (liver damage). On the other hand, a newer study (and many doctors) suggest that marijuana use DURING treatment can be a big help in terms of side effects, especially nausea. For that reason medical marijuana is often prescribed since doctors don't prescribe illegal substances.
So...where I come out is that marijuana smoking is bad for the liver except during treatment where it may have benefits in helping people comply with their drug doses by alleviating many side effects.
-- Jim
For every study that says it's good you can probably find one that says it's bad, you know?
But logically it's more stress on the liver to have to process all the extra toxins (but I can't talk really becuase I found it impossible to quit smoking cigarettes during treatment as bad as I knew it was even when I had a six point hemo drop in ten days...I laid in bed so I wouldn't faint and smoked. Smart huh?)
I *think* (and again, I could just be blowing smoke, as it were) that the studies just demonstrated a correlation. There could be many causes. It could be that chronic dopers also have higher injection drug use histories, or increased alcohol consumption, etc.
We have to be careful to parse the language of these studies carefully, and to not infer things that studies in fact do not say.
Several studies have shown that marijuana use helped to reduce the treatment drop out rates for patients on therapy due to it's mitigation of some of the side effects ( primarily pain and nausea) caused by treatment.
All the best,
-- Jim
http://www.natap.org/2005/HCV/062705_01.htm
http://www.hivandhepatitis.com/2007icr/easl/docs/042407_c.html
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Gastroenterology/2005AASLDMeeting/tb/4395
I read also that it is showing reduces cancer instances too. I will post that one too. Here's the Altzheimers study
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/10/061018151055.htm
The witch doctors want to control our lives. A web cite:
http://www.medicalmarijuanaprocon.org/bin/procon/procon.cgi?database=5%2dD%2dSubs%2edb&command=viewone&id=18&op=t