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dealing with ignorance
I had an incident happen Mothers Day... We (hubby and I) were invited to his Mom's for Mothers day after church (I never go) we surprised her and showed up. In here house afterwards 4 other sibblings and spouses and children were there. It was a housefull.. I assisted in the kitchen, (as I always do) after we started eating, my brother in law left in a huff.... well my husband finally told me 3 days ago why his brother left. Because I was helping in the kitchen and (he never saw me) did not wash my hands and I was "" touching everything"" First off I use hand sanitizer and use it regularly even at home. Second I am sure if I didn't help I would have been chastized for not helping.
Well I just thought I would send out a little update on My visit to Duke and at the Mental Health Dept which I also posted on the forum my email follows:
***if you want to learn more about the Hepatitis please go to.. www.medhelp.org/hepatitis ;
my user name is RonniePATWebb
I understand that some people do not understand what Hepatitis is and do not understand
how this disease spreads so you might want to educate yourself a little or support me.
for example >>>>>>> I went to the mental health office today( because my Dr. at Duke University requires I be on antidepressants before I start the meds for my disease due to the fact the hepatitis meds will leave me very depressed) anyways the lpn that was doing my intake evaluation wanted to know why I wasn't wearing a mask because hepiatitis was an airbourne disease... well I educated her real fast. I informed her that it was blood to blood contact only... When I was 16 yrs old I did have a blood transfussion and could have very well contracted it that way. You cannot get it by being in the same room with me, nor can you get it by sharing a glass, or food with me. The only way you can get hepatitis from me is to have and open sore or cut and my blood gets mixed into yours.
love you guys and hope to see you at medhelp.
Pat
the next day I get this back from my Brother in law:::
"""I tried my best to keep hard feelings down on Mother's Day at Mama's dinner. That is the reason I left so I wouldnt say something that I might regret later. But being that u insist on keeping it going by emailing my wife and daughter on educating them on Hepitis C and how u can catch it I am going to respond. I dont want to have a contest with you , I am not a doctor but for 25 yrs I have been in the medical field and I know what it is and how u can catch it. I know it is spread by blood which is a body fluid. They teach us to take precautions and your actions that day on Mother's Day was not taking precaution. You didnt have to handle each cup and handle the food without washing your hands. Looks like you would have had more respect for others than to handle everything in the kitchen that day especially knowing the health issues that mama and other family members have. Even though it is only spread by blood it would have been common courtesy to just stay out of the kitchen area for the ones who might have been uncomfortable with the situation.
Looks like you might need education on precautions for any disease or virus. Like I said I am not a doctor and I know what it is but I would just like this dropped before one of us says something that we will regret. Thanks no reply needed. """
I would have preferred he take me to the side and said something when this was occuring and not stormed out of the house like I had the plague. I will not be at another family get together and my husband is behind me on this.
Just need a few opinions I am hurt and very upset that it has come to this. But i emailed all my close friends and relatives just bcc'd all.
thanks in advance,
Pat
Well I just thought I would send out a little update on My visit to Duke and at the Mental Health Dept which I also posted on the forum my email follows:
***if you want to learn more about the Hepatitis please go to.. www.medhelp.org/hepatitis ;
my user name is RonniePATWebb
I understand that some people do not understand what Hepatitis is and do not understand
how this disease spreads so you might want to educate yourself a little or support me.
for example >>>>>>> I went to the mental health office today( because my Dr. at Duke University requires I be on antidepressants before I start the meds for my disease due to the fact the hepatitis meds will leave me very depressed) anyways the lpn that was doing my intake evaluation wanted to know why I wasn't wearing a mask because hepiatitis was an airbourne disease... well I educated her real fast. I informed her that it was blood to blood contact only... When I was 16 yrs old I did have a blood transfussion and could have very well contracted it that way. You cannot get it by being in the same room with me, nor can you get it by sharing a glass, or food with me. The only way you can get hepatitis from me is to have and open sore or cut and my blood gets mixed into yours.
love you guys and hope to see you at medhelp.
Pat
the next day I get this back from my Brother in law:::
"""I tried my best to keep hard feelings down on Mother's Day at Mama's dinner. That is the reason I left so I wouldnt say something that I might regret later. But being that u insist on keeping it going by emailing my wife and daughter on educating them on Hepitis C and how u can catch it I am going to respond. I dont want to have a contest with you , I am not a doctor but for 25 yrs I have been in the medical field and I know what it is and how u can catch it. I know it is spread by blood which is a body fluid. They teach us to take precautions and your actions that day on Mother's Day was not taking precaution. You didnt have to handle each cup and handle the food without washing your hands. Looks like you would have had more respect for others than to handle everything in the kitchen that day especially knowing the health issues that mama and other family members have. Even though it is only spread by blood it would have been common courtesy to just stay out of the kitchen area for the ones who might have been uncomfortable with the situation.
Looks like you might need education on precautions for any disease or virus. Like I said I am not a doctor and I know what it is but I would just like this dropped before one of us says something that we will regret. Thanks no reply needed. """
I would have preferred he take me to the side and said something when this was occuring and not stormed out of the house like I had the plague. I will not be at another family get together and my husband is behind me on this.
Just need a few opinions I am hurt and very upset that it has come to this. But i emailed all my close friends and relatives just bcc'd all.
thanks in advance,
Pat
Exactly. While it isn't getting it DIRECTLY from THE Dentist, it is from going TO the Dentist's office. I saw my dentist while on treatment and they had a questionnaire for patients they wanted me to fill out. Asked if I had any questions or concerns. I included a question on their attention to sterilization and explained why. My dentist's astounding response was that she thought they caught all the Hepatitis C cases during the blood scandal in the 90's. Ummm....nope. Hardly.
Your anaesthesiologist was basically correct even if his phraseology was a little bit imprecise.
Your anaesthesiologist was basically correct even if his phraseology was a little bit imprecise.
You know when I had liver surgery last fall the anaseologist(sp) asked me where I got the hep c( and he was about the 50 th medical personal who had asked me that) and I was sick of having to tell them so I just said that they weren't really sure . He looked at the 2 nurses who were trying to start an IV and said "Yeah, you can even get it from your dentist" I wanted to say "yeah if he bleeds in an open wound in my mouth" but I didn't bother. You think that a medical person would know....
-Libby
-Libby
I appreciate the feed back my buddies...... This is man that is sooo concerned about his families welfare that (last year when my husband was off work for 8 months with a back injury) The man drove by our house at least 2 X's aweek and NEVER stopped to see how his brother was or see if he needed anything.. So I knew he was an $$#hole to begin with he just confirmed it for me.
I am so glad I have you guys to vent to.
Thanx again.
Pat
I am so glad I have you guys to vent to.
Thanx again.
Pat
" But being that u insist on keeping it going by emailing my wife and daughter on educating them on Hepatitis C and how u can catch it I am going to respond."
Screw him. Don't waste your time anymore. Obviously his medical background isn't working to well for him because he presents a total like of knowledge and makes ignorant
comments.
Sorry about that Ronnie, those type of people I pass by in life. He doesn't deserve your efforts.
Screw him. Don't waste your time anymore. Obviously his medical background isn't working to well for him because he presents a total like of knowledge and makes ignorant
comments.
Sorry about that Ronnie, those type of people I pass by in life. He doesn't deserve your efforts.
He's not ignorant, he clearly shows he understands the transmission:
...I am not a doctor but for 25 yrs I have been in the medical field and I know what it is and how u can catch it. I know it is spread by blood which is a body fluid...
But then he goes on to show you how stupid he really is:
...They teach us to take precautions and your actions that day on Mother's Day was not taking precaution. You didnt have to handle each cup and handle the food without washing your hands....
Precautions for blood-to-blood isn't washing hands. It's making sure you don't slice your finger off AND bleed into the cut of the person who is trying to bandage you up. Precautions for hepatitis C need to be taken BY THE PEOPLE AROUND US WHEN WE ARE BLEEDING.
He's clearly an idiotic a$$hat who wanted to ruin your day. Get him out of your life (or make your husband do it--after all they're related, right?). You'll be glad you did.
...I am not a doctor but for 25 yrs I have been in the medical field and I know what it is and how u can catch it. I know it is spread by blood which is a body fluid...
But then he goes on to show you how stupid he really is:
...They teach us to take precautions and your actions that day on Mother's Day was not taking precaution. You didnt have to handle each cup and handle the food without washing your hands....
Precautions for blood-to-blood isn't washing hands. It's making sure you don't slice your finger off AND bleed into the cut of the person who is trying to bandage you up. Precautions for hepatitis C need to be taken BY THE PEOPLE AROUND US WHEN WE ARE BLEEDING.
He's clearly an idiotic a$$hat who wanted to ruin your day. Get him out of your life (or make your husband do it--after all they're related, right?). You'll be glad you did.
Yes, people can be ignorant and hurtful. One of my best friends husband tested positive for antibodies-yes, antibodies only, and she was really upset about it. He's one of the lucky ones who cleared on his own. Even though it had happened several months in the past, I straightened her out on that. A) He doesn't have it and you can't get it B) He didn't know he had been exposed, and when he did, he told you. I actually went through that with my ex. He hung up on me when I told him. We had gone through a big deal when I was trying to get pregnant because I had hepatitis B in 1985. He made me get tested for that, of course it came back negative because I cleared the virus. I had to ask for my hep C test, it's not a routine test by any sense of the word. Maybe it should be, but that's another topic! He's still being an ignoramus about my treatment. He doesn't want his wife to know I'm treating and that I have it. I'll assume he thinks it's an std and she'll get mad at him for not telling her I have it. She's a nurse and probably knows a lot more about it than he gives her credit for. I've had conversations about HIV and precautions with her, and she knows what she's talking about as far as that goes. One things for sure, it's all about him and I am so much better off since losing him. Too bad it took me 9 years to finally do it! That is a big part of why I decided to treat, I got sick of dealing with having to tell potential sex partners about it, feeling like a leper, etc. because the general public is fearful and ignorant.
If it was me...i would tell heim to keep the hell away from me and dont even bother speaking to the ignorant uncaring moron ever again...TELL HIM...you are a piece of dirt
Tell him the next time he goes to the dentist or a resturant....or gets on public transit to wear a gas mask and a rubber suit....does he have tattos??...for all he knows...hes aleardy got a disease
There are some ppl in this world who are idiots and their ignorance truly shines around HepC. The truth is even if you remove a HepC infection from the equation, they are still idiots. good luck
I believe your Bro in law has other issues with you and was looking for an excuse to not just hurt you, but to down right humiliate you and your husband-his brother...If he was loving or cared enough he would have studied up on the Virus and how it is transmitted.
I went thru a similiar situation with my in-laws. They thought I could have only gotten the infection by either cheating on my wife or doing I.V. drugs. I had a transfusion in 68 and got a tattoo the same year. My wife looked at me pretty hard when I was told I tested positive for exposure to Hep C and asked doctors and they told her it could have been the tattoo or the transfusion-she got tested and my 3 children were tested-all negative. Anyway to make a long story short after the Hep C was full blown and I started Tx my in-laws treated me like a leper at her family re-union. She told them all where to go, and said to her mother and two brothers get educated and call me. They did a few weeks later and apologized. RonniePatWebb I feel your pain but your husband should set your brother in law straight and remember these words RPW: We are what we think-not what others think. Let it go...Let it go...let it go. Dwelling on an ignorant persons views is corrosive to your psyche and soul and body...let it go
I went thru a similiar situation with my in-laws. They thought I could have only gotten the infection by either cheating on my wife or doing I.V. drugs. I had a transfusion in 68 and got a tattoo the same year. My wife looked at me pretty hard when I was told I tested positive for exposure to Hep C and asked doctors and they told her it could have been the tattoo or the transfusion-she got tested and my 3 children were tested-all negative. Anyway to make a long story short after the Hep C was full blown and I started Tx my in-laws treated me like a leper at her family re-union. She told them all where to go, and said to her mother and two brothers get educated and call me. They did a few weeks later and apologized. RonniePatWebb I feel your pain but your husband should set your brother in law straight and remember these words RPW: We are what we think-not what others think. Let it go...Let it go...let it go. Dwelling on an ignorant persons views is corrosive to your psyche and soul and body...let it go
Wow, what a guy! That is such a shame. Seems like one of you has already said things he SHOULD regret! I would be furious and very hurt. I certainly would not assist serving food to this man again - let him fix his own snacks!
I'm so sorry you have to deal with such a churlish ignorant man, and in your own family of all places! For a medical professional he is woefully ignorant. It is a great ptiy nobody was able to teach him better manners.
I hope you can shake off that hurt feeling. Treatment is so hard, and you will need all your energy. You won't have much to spare on people like that oaf!
Feel better soon!
jd
I'm so sorry you have to deal with such a churlish ignorant man, and in your own family of all places! For a medical professional he is woefully ignorant. It is a great ptiy nobody was able to teach him better manners.
I hope you can shake off that hurt feeling. Treatment is so hard, and you will need all your energy. You won't have much to spare on people like that oaf!
Feel better soon!
jd
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