hepc 3a load 257,000 xxxxxhelp pleasexxxxxx

[dndfunnel]

found out 12 months ago and have been taking silver water every day.ast and alt was 85 and 275 .blood test done 24.5.05 dr says lft is normal and everything ok. will know on monday if still have hepc and if thats the case should i look at combined treatment.any help please!thanks

[sunspot]

I think it Colloidal Silver. A virus, fungi, bacterium killer.

Dana

[dndfunnel]

yes colloidal silver !soon see !

[hope2bhepfree]

I'm sorry I don't have the answer to you question.  For me if there is a way to get rid of this stuff.  I'm going to do it.  but from what i hear from the board and my experiance with my own doc tx is a personal choice that you have to make.  I would check with my doc first though before taking any herbs or other alt treament.  Some of those tx and doses are not regulated and can cause more harm than good.

[cuteus]

ok, so you say you have hep c, what was the amount of damage your liver had? what was your viral load?
If the viral load is negative and remains so for a year then I would say you are the first person actually cured of hcv with silver, but I doubt it very seriously. enzymes do not paint an accurate picture of hcv.
until you know that you are negative, it would be wise to abstain from peddling the stuff to others.

[dndfunnel]

3a load 275000 12 months ago drinking glass every morning of colloidal silver had liver function done in yesterday and doctor says its normal will find out result on monday if still have hep thanks for your help information is for help not to be nasty!

[cuteus]

lots of new people find this forum with many questions and in schock. feeding them hope through an unproven method of hcv erradication is plain wrong.
Wait for the PCR test, not the enzymes(mine was normal and I still had hcv), and then peddle the stuff if the PCR  is negative for a year.
I personally can't believe any "doctor" would condone the use of metal ingestion for any condition.
Still, I wish you luck. btw, how long ago were you infected?

my writing manner is usually blunt and to the point and sometimes it can sound nasty, and sometimes I truly am...especially when snake oil gets spread on the floor.

I truly wish you good health

[dndfunnel]

i am 37 probably got it when i was young and dumb arround 20 years old using drugs looked for different ways to treat it if i still have a bad result on monday i will be getting treatment maybe combined am **** scared hope its gone.thought i would try silver first if im wrong least i tried some people have had good results .dean

[genedog]

middle agers

[BronxRican007]

dndfunnel

You're a feakin Bozo peddling BS to lots of scared but smart people. Why don't you just go away and take your snake oil with you. You're full of it and we know the difference.

BronxRican007

[sunspot]

My gut says dndfunnel is not a silver salesman. It’s too easy to buy locally then try to make internet sales.

dndfunnel, please come back and let us know how your test went. If you do have to do Peg tx, at least it’s only 24 week with your genotype.

Yours, Dana

[cuteus]

those people that had good luck with the silver have not provided anyone with proof of a PCR test prior to the silver or after the silver "tx". they are all testimonials much like what you find in infommercials, and you know how that goes.  
The lowering of enzymes does not mean they got rid of hcv, and that is the only thing they can really claim. but enzymes normalization can happen for many reasons unrelated to silver.

I hope you can come back on Monday and yell "I told you so" to my face!
but if you can't do that, still come back for support when embarking on a course to health that does not include metals.
there are others here that are a lot more diplomatic than me>
;-}

[Bliss68]

Im with u let the Doctor handle it.. Do vendors try to sell on this site at times?  Thats cold

[sunspot]

Snake oil vendors do show up now and again. A lot of times, prison imates rum scams. Ya gotta be careful. As far as Colloidal Silver goes, it’s been around for many years. Some health stores sell it as well as ads in magazines. I’ve even seen ads where you can buy a machine to extract the silver from tap water.
As cuteus stated, there is no study that proves it works.

Dana

[dndfunnel]

may need your help after monday  time for bed thanks for chat thanks dean.x

[dndfunnel]

yes your right i did get my colloidal frm a health shop.lots of healthy stuff there.

[cuteus]

I have a gut feeling that dean is on the up and up(is that the saying?). At least he is young and might have time to play with "alternatives" unlike us middle agers.

[dndfunnel]

be nice now tlk 2 u monday.x

[Honey15637]

haha Dean,,,You got us!  We don't like the snake oil and promises from many a salesman because people that are unfamiliar may buy the stories and still have hep c after its all said and done!  I know you are not a salesman though and hope it does work but from experience,,,I don't think so.  I certaintly wouldn't have done 52 weeks of Interferon if I could fix my problem with silver!  Please come back monday and report more for us,,,,Happy Sleeping!

[cuteus]

THERE is one of those diplomatic ones I was telling you about.

;-}

[LvdByGod!]

there is some concern that the build up of metals in your system may be dangerous...yikes!!!

did i tell you guys that i heard if you get bit by a rattle snake the hepc will go away?...yep! it's true!!! after your dead from the snake bit eventually the hep c won't have any live tissue to feed on and then they will die!!!

IT'S REVOLUTIONARY!!!



just given you a hard time...hope it worked for you!!! really.

:O) sandi

[cuteus]

and here I did it the hard way! darn!


I think dean is for real. we will see Monday,
hey I will be happy to swallow my words if I get concrete proof of hcv erradication.

[LvdByGod!]

and snake venom is NATURAL too!!! ~:O)

[LvdByGod!]

i'm just goofin off... you know that right? i really do hope it helped you. it really would be amazing! of course you won't really know if it's the silver or just your immune system that killed the virus. some folks do clear on their own anyway.  

i wish you the very best really...let us know.

sandi

[sunspot]

You have not annoyed me in any way. If you have questions or want opinions, please post them.
I'm not sure what you mean by where are you but I'll give it a try.
I live in Alabama. On tx for 16 weeks of 48.
Best to you, Dana

[Honey15637]

Hey,,,,same here,,,,definitely not annoyed.  I just stated it like it is.  Thats wonderful that your alt came down but I still say that will not get rid of your disease.  Only thing at this point is the interferon.

[dndfunnel]

just trying to get some info im an ausy living in queensland.how u feelin on treatment? ok i hope! read my question above any ideas?thanks.btw alabama sounds like a great place.

[dndfunnel]

g,day honey where are you from in the world?have some questions for ya xxxxxxx

[Honey15637]

Texas gal here! What questions you have?

[dndfunnel]

hey u guys you should know that here in australia we have lots nlots of SNAKES so maybe i can catch some n make some oil!!!!!

[dndfunnel]

whats the biopsy like ?is that the first thing to do ?should i take 6months off work for treatment?and how will u guys put up with me for so long?3a whats the odds n should i start asap?

[twotells]

Hello from Pennsylvania.  This is a great place to get support and learn alot, so welcome.  Colloidal Silver comes up as a topic from time to time here, so I ran a Medscape.com search on it.  Couldn't find anything supporting claims that it may be effective with HCV, but I did find a number of reports about poisening, specifically something called argyria (permanent grey pigmentation of skin, conjunctiva, cornea and internal organs made worse by the sun).  Please be careful, mate.  I did 96 wks of peg-interferon with Ribavirin for the first 48 wks and I am now clear of virus at 6mo after treatment (SVR).  I had many side effects and wish they would find something other than Interferon for this disease, but so far it's the only thing that works.  Take care, Dave

[dndfunnel]

hello!what can i say.been hammered.rang dr to see what no the ast and alt .ast is 39 was 85.alt was 275 now 132.the alt is still not in limit. is this high?had 3 blood tests over 12 months and has slowly come down is this a good sign?and to the gaylord b be careful what u say xxxkarmaxxx does happen!thanks for comments everyone .

[dndfunnel]

where are u guys ? hope to annoy u again.need some info n oppinionsxxxxdean

[dndfunnel]

should i take time off work?6 months or so i have 3a is that type hard to rid of i am 37 years old will i handle it?dont drink much anymore that was a killer!but i do smoke. want to get the monkey off my back . excellent for you. be proud you done itxxxxxxxxxxxxxthanks dean. p.s what time is it over there?

[twotells]

It's 9:30AM here- must be late over there.  Thanks for the congrats.  

Your type has a better success rate and shorter duration than my type 1b.  I decided to go for the tx because my biopsy indicated stage 3 (fibrosis) and it would not have taken long for me to progress to cirrosis.  The biopsy results are the real indicator of  how far the disease has progressed.  You can have progression without abnormal enzymes (alt/ast).  I understand that many docs and insurers aren't doing biopsies for type 2's and 3's- not a good policy in my view.  

I haven't been able to work due to a rare problem associated with HCV, but many people are able to work.  Somebody once posted that 25% can work as usual, 50% may need occasional time off or schedule adjustments, and 25% will not be able to work.  My experience on this forum over the past 2 yrs suggests that is about right.

I have a niece headed to Australia and New Zealand in a month, what kind of weather is she likely to have?  Dave

[cuteus]

something about you click as being for real, most snake oil sales are the hit and run type. the fact that you stayed told my internal watchdog to be nice.
I am in NY, 1A and did 72 wks, I worked the full course. If you get a positive viral load test, try to get a biopsy to see what damage was done, then decide if tx is for you at this time.
teh biopsy was ultra sound guided done by a radiologist and it was painless and quick.
You only annoyed me for a little while...;-}

someone else from downunder was here, does anyone remember the name?

[Tony-z]

dndfunnel


Remember that you need to factor in the placebo effect in the equation....


               TonyZ

[LvdByGod!]

hi defunnul, (ast is 39 was 85.alt was 275 now 132) this is still high!  my ast/alt was in the 40's and i almost have cirhosis...stage 3-4. you can't really go by these numbers as to liver damage...you gotta get a (recent) biopsy and go from there. only a biopsy can tell you if it's time to treat hepc...if you are over a stage/grade one than you should start treatment asap.

i didn't get a chance to read others replies to you but my guess is everyone has told you that the herb stuff doesn't kill hepc and the viral count and the ast/alt will not tell you how damaged your liver is until after you have cirhosis...and only the interferon/ribaviron has the best shot at killing it. alternatives will not kill it and the hepc will still keep damaging your liver until it's gone.  

type 3a is the second best kind to treat if you are gonna have hepc. only type 2 is better. let us know when your gonna start tx or not, we will be here for ya...

sandi

[dndfunnel]

thanks for info,you guys have helped me to understand some things.i wont be surprised if the dr organizes a biopsy on monday.pat yourself on the back if only the world was full of people like you it would be a better place.ps twotells the weather here in ausy-beutiful one day perfect the next!hello cuty,sandi tlk 2 u ltrxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Tallblonde]

Perhaps you should reconsider taking colloidal silver. Here's what the Memorial Sloan-Kettering website has to say about it:

Colloidal silver consists of silver particles suspended in a liquid. It is often produced by home-made generators. The use of silver medicinals to treat disorders such as epilepsy, gonorrhea, and colds was not uncommon until the mid-20th century. However, silver was replaced by safer therapies in the recent decades. While silver compounds are still used in external preparations as antiseptics, there has been a growing interest in using the collodial form of silver orally as an alternative medicine. Although no human clinical data support the use of oral colloidal silver, it is being promoted as a cure for AIDS, cancer, and diabetes. Silver is not an essential mineral and does not serve any physiological function in the body. It actually denatures proteins by binding to their reactive groups. It can inactivate some enzymes by forming hemisilver sulfides with sulfhydryl groups of the enzymes (1). Silver when taken orally can interact with and reduce the effectiveness of tetracycline, quinolone, and penicillamine. Long term use can cause silver deposition in the skin and mucous membranes leading to an irreversible condition called argyria, characterized by bluish-gray to gray-black pigmentation (2) (3). Other adverse effects include seizures (6) and kidney damage. Pregnant women should not consume colloidal silver as it can cause developmental abnormalities in the fetus (1).