ozone therapy?

[draydle]

Gary Null writes "all forms of hepatitus (hepatitis) have been known to be reversed with intravenous ozone, and hepatitis can sometimes be fully eliminated after several sessions. The modality appears to step up immune system activity, enabling the body's own defenses to wipe out aggressive viral organisms."
     Is anyone familiar with this - or lnow any doctors, or healthcare providers, using the treatment?
     I wamt to avoid interferon and would like to try something safer and gentler.
     Thanks, Draydle

[cindee]

Heu dude, I wanted to post to yu under the other post, where we all had been posting back @ forth...but it was closed to new comments. I KNEW ALL ALONG...YOU AND I ARE REALLY CONNECTED!!!! I am just like you, laid back, but MESS WITH ONE OF MY CHILDREN OR GRANDCHILDREN....UT OH!!!!!! I too have custody of my g.daughter because my daughter had her living in a drug infected house! I admit I used, but I've been clean for 11 yrs in July. Can you believe my daughter who is messed up on crack, told me almost 11 yrs ago, "Mother if you are on drugs, when my baby is born I won't be able to trust you w/ her." Those words were all it took to get off the drugs!

I feel like my g.daughter who I have custody of , who will be 11 On Aug. 12th was definately a GOD send to  me. I STOPPED using with only the help of GOD and lots of answered prayers that had been prayed for me for 17 yrs!!!! Now the shoe is on the other foot. I took my g.daughter and told my daughter exactly the same words she told me...."you canot be trusted w/ your child while you are on drugs". She knew that and the 3 of us went to my lawyers office and my daughter willing signed her over to me. It was a very tearful time, but at least we didn't have to go through the courts to do it.

Also I want to say I am glad you have some energy back and are feeling a little better. That's another thing my 1st  doctor didn't ever prescribe to anyone...Procrit! Even when my platelets dropped to 9. I hear you have to do a blood transfussion at 7! My new doctor again just shook his head in disbelief when I told him that! But I will say a special prayer for you to get better very soon. Keep us up-dated on how you are doing. You are a wonderful man and I admire you for your passion and love for your family. I will also be praying for yuor grandson. I know he is SPECIAL to you. Much love and many prayers, Cindee

tallblonde.....I don't think you opened a "can of worms" about how an addict looks. It just started a very interesting topic. When I was using heroion...geez have I even forgot how to sell it???? LOL That's a good thing!!!! LOL I was in a couple of drug bust....never charged thank GOD...put even the narc's said I didn't look like I belonged in the same group of ppl I was hanging with. I always kept up my appearance. I guess I could have fooled anyone....even your "dumb" judgemental stupid doctor. Sorry for the mean words but it makes me so mad for you to be judged by HIM. God will get him for that. MAYBE HE'S A DRUG ADDICT!!!!!! You never know. And that's the truth. So don't apologize....I enjoyed reading all the comments on that one. And if it makes any difference...I BELIEVE YOU!!!!! I love ya girl, Cindee

[cuteus]

a little friendly advice to those who encounter paid surveys and questionaires and refer them to this forum.  please find out the exclusions for these things prior to submitting them here.
the subject of stereotyping was recently brought up and it does not help when an impersonal voice on the other end tells you,"you don't qualify" and hangs up on you after answering the how you contacted hcv question. talk about making someone feel like s***.   Please find the exclusions, we don't need aggravation like that while on TX.

[cindee]

Chev, TY for your kind words...it was a very tearful day that day. Can you believe my daughter called and I was in a sound sleep...she said to me..I'm taking Kyleigh (my g.daughter) AND MOVING to Rhode Island...in my half awake and half asleep, I said well....okay. Well when I woke up, and remembered the conversation I called my other daughter who lives right across from my dughter who is on crack...of course she has no money...her rent is 2 months past due..phone is cut off..gas would have been cut off but her ex...who she is going to live w/ in R.I. pd her bill.

Well she called me and said what's wrong? I said you caught me while I was really still asleep and YOU WILL NOT BE TAKING KYLEIGH TO R.I. She started crying and said that's how I wanted to get her back, move to R.I. w/ her Dad and he will take care of us. I said....I TOLD YOU NO and that's IT!!! END of dscussion! She said they would be leaving in 2 to 3 wks. Well, the next day she called and asked me for $30.00. I said NO, I don't have it. She said I need it for gas $ to get me to Ohio, where I will meet ex. Her car has no ins., tag is dead and inspection is dead as well.

I couldn't believe she had the nerve to EVEN think she was gonna take Kyleigh and leave in that car...and w/ only $30.00!!!! I told her to call me when she got there, to let me know she made it. Well I forgot to tell hubby I told her to call collect, and when the phone rang, hubby answered phone..I heard him say NO, we are not excepting anymore collect calls! And he hung up the phone. I really was worried that she had been stopped by police. But I just said a prayer. You see we paid a lot of $$$ when Kyleigh's Dad was in prison and called collect, to let her talk to her Dad. Collect calls from prison are NOT CHEAP.

So my daughter called my Dad and he accepted the call...he called me to let me know she was in Ohio, and to call her Dad to let him know.(I guess he gave her some $$$) She always used us to help her w/ her bills and we would when she had Kyleigh w/ her. We couldn't let Kyleigh go w/o. You understand.

Now I want to ask you and everyone to lift our family up to "someone" higher than us....to keep Kyleigh safe. I am very afraid her parents will come back and try to kidnap her. I make her take her cell phone w/ her everywhere she goes, and I explained to her, that if they ever try to get her to go w/ them, I WILL CALL THE POLICE AND HAVE THEM BOTH ARRESTED. She's smart and understands. She doesn't want to go anywhere...she is very happy here. She finished 5th grade and is going into 6th grade with honors!!! She will be in a honor's class!!!! Her yrly adverage was a "B". She wants to go to college and go into engineering and design cars!!!!!

I will end w/ this, but I just had to let you all know so you can be praying for us. Her Mother called last nite @ 11:00 and said she was at her ex's grandmother's house and her ex was out w/ his girlfriend!!!!! He's only been up there since the wk after Easter and already has a g.f.!!!!! SO PLEASE PLEASE PRAY FOR US....ANYBODY WHO READS THIS! I would just die if anything happened to my g.daughter. Thank you all in advance. I love you all very much and TY for being here in times of need...hep c or personal....we are a large hep c family and I am so thankful to have you all to talk too. Much love and many prayers, Cindee XOXO
p.s. Chev...are you better??? has your problem w/ your health been taken care of? I sure hope so...I have been praying for YOU.

[cindee]

ON thread 3C I meant to say "spell"....not "sell" !!!!! LOL Not that it really matters....because there were times 17 yrs ago when I did help someone "SELL" it!!!!!!!! LOL Hey all you ex drug users know where I am coming from.....geez we were addicts.. but that was then, and this is now!!!!!!! I'm still MAD about tallblonde's doctor!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !!!!! Love you all, Cindee

[MajNeni]

Just restating the obvious here... about that stigma.  I had two main problems with some of the people who "found out" I had HCV:
1) they went running
2) they figured I must have done something to deserve it
That's similar to lots of people's views about HIV when it first got well known, and perhaps still.  I must say, I have had a lot more empathy with HIV infected people (and those with AIDS) since my HCV dx.  
BTW, we benefitted a lot from the research done originally for HIV.  The viruses have a lot in common.  HCV was only really identified about 1990-ish, and research specifically on treating HCV only started then, ~ten years behind HIV.  In 1991 there was no effective tx known for HCV, but now 2's and 3's have a >80% likelihood of cure, 1's are batting over 50%.  That's a pretty good learning curve for doctors and pharmaceutical companies!
Maj Neni

p.s. Ral, I wish you resolution for your current difficulties. As if treating HCV weren't challenge enough for a good man...MN

[ral]

Tallblonde I did not take your comment in any derogative manner. I feel that any doctor that judges anyone for their disease or sickness needs to be reprimanded or disbarred. I have two brothers who are Doctors and they are great guys and one is world famous because of his work and their pasts were not perfect. They are fine now and good and compassionate Docs. Maybe a little history helps them be more in tune with being human and believe me we all are no matter what we look like. Know one believes my past when I tell them about it. I had a Priest actually, he was on A.A., tell me with my past (one of the worst he had heard) I should be dead, buried, or locked in a mental institution. THANK GOD I MADE IT OUT, scared, but better and definitely human.

Cindee GOD BLESS just hang tough GOD DOES PROTECT THE LITTLE ONES. My wife always says to me we are spending a lot of money what if we lose, my son was attacked, we were threatened but we are all ok even my grandson. I went thru a horrendous childhood and was protected my whole life. I still have a lot to change but where there is life there is hope. Just don't give up. Money, effort, time, pain are not important, the children are. We need to try and protect them. But we also need to know in our hearts when to release. We can only do what GOD shows us to do and then just wait and see where the doors open

Maj as always thanks and I hope you are doing well post tx


GOD BLESS
Your Friend
Bob L

[ral]

I also told my ex-son in law when Drake was about 1 yr old that I heard Stephen was dealing and using around Drake. I told him if I found out in fact he was doing this he would be in serious trouble "He asked me is that a threat"? and I said "It is a fact period" He is finding it out to be a serious fact in his life at this time. He can change also. We will see how much his son means to him. Talk is cheap

Bob L

[Honey15637]

Bob...Drake is lucky to have you and its good to hear someone is looking out for him. You are a great person and so good to have you part of this forum!

Cindee,,,Your granddaughter is doing so good!!  I know you are so proud of her and her life has been changed because of you!

Everyone....I know that TallBlonde said in her thread that one of her dr friends thought people that had hep c were the dregs of society...  Before finding out you had this disease...Did you guys think that?  I just found out I had it in fall but have read about this disease before that and that NEVER even crossed my mind.

[derail]

i also have had the stigma attached re hcv.and drug abuse . it is well known by former friends and family and my bro was a speed freak in the 60's i used my share of recreational pharmacuticals myself but did not inject. does that make me a drug addict? not. judgemental people are just that..judgemental or maybe just mental. God this disease is bad enough by itself never mind all the added aggro. in toronto we have our share of idiots in the med profession as well but as a general rule ,Ihaven't met with too much bias. also, i passed along this site to the research nurse who is monitoring  my dragon and told her to supply to all the newbies she's seeing and the successors as well more points of view and info cant hurt. keep loving the gkids ral gkids are now my lol even the adopted ones from next door .there's always room for loving kids .just doesnt seem to be enough of it in the world today.this old world doesn't seem like the one we envisioned in my early years
peace love and happiness or was that just a flashback?

[cuteus]

if gary null can back up the claim with studies that show viral clearance, go for it. email him and ask for a provider of care. everyone that is trying to kill the virus here, is using the proven method; interferon +ribavirin.  nothing in life is easy, but most is manageable and it is the same with this treatment.  If you are young and have time to  experiment, do so. if you are close to 50 or over, I honestly feel you are wasting precious time that can be spent curing this illness.

[cindee]

Chev, Gal I'm so glad to hear you are better. The "girlie" problems we have are somtimes really rough! I was so happy to read that you are feeling good. TY for your support and all your caring @ love, prayers to ya gal...I love ya, Cindee

EVERYONE~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ As I was sitting here typing on the computer a thought just came to me. "I know this Hep C disease is awful, but I have just realized...I can also be Thankful for having this terrible disease, sounds crazy huh? But without having hep c, I would never have met ALL OF YOU WONDERFUL PEOPLE. I want you all to know you have brought so much into MY LIFE. I know I've said a thousand times I LOVE YOU ALL. This place has really been a GOD send to me. It's so hard to comprehend all the LOVE, COMPASSION, CARING, GENTLE, KIND, COURAGE, TENDERNESS, PATIENCE, UNDERSTANDING....and the list goes on and on....in the people who come to this place of PEACE." I really consider myself lucky, even after the rough time I had for the 48wks of tx, and then wondering WHEN the post tx sickness and feelings would leave. All the while, just thinking ....I must be kicking Dragon Butt....and only to find out I have relapsed. I could have never had made it this far without ALL OF YOU. And here I sit....ready to GO again! I truely believe all things happen for a reason....and I know in my HEART....GOD has blessed us in a way we will not understand until the time comes, for us to understand. (I know I always say God, but I do realize from the knowledge Chevy has given me...that we all worship a "higher being".) I just had to say what my God has put on my heart......sharing IS a comfort...especially to SHARE with ppl that YOU know in your Heart really do care. Once again.....I will say....I LOVE EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU!  Peace be to all, CINDEE