HEPATITIS SOCIAL COMMUNITY
Social or Medical or What?

Social or Medical or What?

This Hepatitis Social Community goes all over the place. What changes would you like to see (if any) with this Community to bring focus to it?
61%
 (8) 
Make no changes
15%
 (2) 
Merge it with MedHelp Social
7%
 (1) 
Write new Descriptions for this & the HepC side
15%
 (2) 
Just do away with it
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Better to sink beneath the shock. Than moulder piecemeal on the rock.  
A stiff apology is a second insult... The injured party does not want to be compensated because he has been wronged; he wants to be healed because he has been hurt.
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1) Change is good.
2) Gotta have a separate 'Social Forum' for those under the influence of IFN (How do you think MedHelp got so popular?)
3) MedHelp is incapable of writing a description that would please everyone.
4) See 2 above.
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Focus?
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I'm guessing 'focus' is to me.  Those two quotes were frequently posted on the MH "home page' back in the day. It's sort of my way to say that MH has ''improved' so much in the last few years that the good old days sometimes look pretty good.
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Hep social is for anything social related with the hepper group.  It makes sense to me personally. Anything medical goes on the medical side. If you want to post "I'm UND" it goes over here. Sometimes people used to like to talk about tv shows and American Idol and stuff (ah days of Jim) and it's all fine with me.

There are alot of friends on here who like to gab and the med side isn't the place for it.  The social forum on MH if you've ever read that is really about fighting about politics and religion and well........we all know first hand where that gets us and it ain't pretty.  I dont think it should be merged with the Social Forum. Anyone who wants to can go over there and fight leftist and tea party and antiameria all day if they want to.

I think it's just fine but that people maybe like in the olden days should be allowed to only start a quota of threads. But that goes against the new driving traffic outlook so that is never going to happen.  And top answerer stuff proves that as it's senseless and rarely reflects who is actually posting or not so I don't get it unless it's a trick to make new people post like crazy thinking they'll get to the top of the list or something and has nothing to do with 'real qualifed positive answers' at all. But it does probably drive traffic.

Just my oldtimer opinion there take it with a grain of salt.
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I guess I just question the fact that some people get upset when something is posted  here that doesn't relate to Hepatitis. I guess me posting a video is ok then.

I also guess this post is directed towards anyone who wants this to be strictly a Hepatitis issues room.

To nygirl7: I didn't think American Idol was that good this year... it seemed to lack pizzaz and energy.
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I'd hate to see it merged. No one understands riba rage/interferon like someone who has been there.

I'm not going so far as to say I like the new changes.  It's not perfect, but it's what we've got.
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Post your video....now I'm curious.

Not an Idol fan.  I do go crazy for Survivor and TrueBlood, though.
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Thanks,I did last night..you'll like it. Scroll down to "Armin Van Buuren".
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Videos are find MJ - in the past I made lots of Lost posts myself ;)

It makes sense to me that the hep social forum is different as everyone says nobody understands a good old rage day and needing to vent like a hepper who's gone through treatment. Plus..........some of the jokes have come in very very handly when the depression/anxiety/rage emotional days come.  I can remember thinking "wow I never thought I would laugh today" when it got bad.

I think it helps.
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"I think it's just fine but that people maybe like in the olden days should be allowed to only start a quota of threads. But that goes against the new driving traffic outlook so that is never going to happen.  And top answerer stuff proves that as it's senseless and rarely reflects who is actually posting or not so I don't get it unless it's a trick to make new people post like crazy thinking they'll get to the top of the list or something and has nothing to do with 'real qualifed positive answers' at all. But it does probably drive traffic.

Just my oldtimer opinion there take it with a grain of salt. "

Uhhhhhhhhhh.....ex-squeeze me?  Make that a salt lick.
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The description at the top of the Social forum is alot better than it used to be.  The differences between the descriptions of the Social and Medical sides used to be virtually imperceptible.  This is actually much improved.  I think there needs to be a side to allow people to socialize and just hang out and dialogue about those non-medical things or things that are the lighter side of treatment and Hep C.  It's working better than it used to in that regard simply because of the better description at the top of this one.

The only thing I'd change is people using the forum to wage personal vendettas and using a Hep C support forum as their personal playground.  That's clearly not going to change and people use both sides of the forum right on up to the moods for that.  Not much to be done about people who don't have any ethics about that. At least having a social side keeps it contained to a degree.
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Myself, i think going back to a limit would be great, its not so much  the threads that are started here but certain posters that start thread after thread which burys other peoples threads.

To me its inconsiderate and rude, but then it tells you what kind of people they are.
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I think the social side is a great place to "reach out and touch someone" who is treating or who has fought the dragon and has sage advice to offer...It is also a place for the "ancient ones" to help the newbies or their friends and families to cope...It shouldn't be as formal as the medical side, and if someone is throwing a pity party or having a rage day, they SHOULD be able to come here and vent...I agree we shouldn't kidnap other's threads, but we should "pay it forward" to those who come and rest here for a spell...:) ~MM
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I like keeping the social side social - especially when we all have something in-common.  I think the majority of the time, It's the lighter side of a bad situation - we all need it. And, yes, venting is needed as well.  So what if someone posts something here that would be better served on the other side.  It will still get noticed.
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Leave it alone, it will straighten out in time.  It's just boring now and slightly annoying for the lack of restraint on the part of some posters.  So what if nobody reads this side for a while because it's all doom predictions or youtube links?  When someone has something to say again instead of just posting links it will go back into active use.
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I would just leave it as it is.  As with others, I don't believe that things can be codified to cover every possible situation or annoyance.

My gripe is that MH seems to reward people for the number of posts with stars and that it has seemed to promote the posting of drivel or for using the forum as a soapbox for ones personal ideology.  Do I want to get all my news about the swine flu or the oil spill here?  Absolutely not.  The deal is, there is no need to legislate for the fringe abuses of the 1%.  

I absolutely agree that the threads that bother me are often the result of the same jerk starting a thread and incessantly posting in the same thread.  It keeps his thread on top and drives the others down.  Anybody who knows how to copy and paste can dominate a forum.  I'm frustrated that quantity is valued over quality, but MH seems to reward that.

Limit free speech due to the 1%?  Not worth it.  

willy
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It's gotten so absurd....don't care.
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Leave it alone - it's perfect just the way it is.

Mike
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Hmmmm, and then there are times we need a case of Morton Salt because when it rains it pours and it just keeps on pouring.
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I have salt licks for my horses & the deer but they have nothing to do with a grain of salt
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"Limit free speech due to the 1%?  Not worth it."

Has nothing to do with limiting free speech, one can "post" as many times as they wish, whenever they wish, its opening thread after thread causing other peoples threads to be buried thats not fair.
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someone in the hepatitis forum is unhappy ?

This is unheard of.....
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My opinion is: just leave it alone.

If I remember correctly, the social side began because people complained that the one forum, had too much gabby personal stuff.
Folks doing tx often do go all over the place, mentally. They need  support and a forum for reasons other than just gathering information.
So the medhelp overseers saw fit to start this thread for us to discuss whatever we choose to write, as long we don't get nasty.

As far as writing new descriptions go, few read whats there anyway.
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Has nothing to do with limiting free speech, one can "post" as many times as they wish, whenever they wish, its opening thread after thread causing other peoples threads to be buried thats not fair. "

It worked just fine in the olden days.  People had to actually make sure their posts were intelligent and interesting and relevant and they didn't get to monopolize the forum.  But again no traffic no revenue no forum.
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Hi ya Deb. while i agree its all about revenue this place was sure alot more busy back then, at least twice as many posts a day plus even late at night people were on here. Maybe its all the changes that have slowed things down.

can it cando
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Yes it used to be so busy I couldn't keep up! I thought maybe it was because I was on treatment at the time but you are right - I was on day and night back then and couldn't keep up with all the threads moving so fast.

We had some serious fun.......even when I felt bad it was still good commraderie even when we argued we were mostly all still very close.

I feel old now like some old geezer talking about the olden days for real!
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What did everybody talk about back in the olden days compared to these days?
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I'm not them but I had a great time talking about jmjm's bed he was making & tattoo girl
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we complained about everything, and laughed plenty, and watched guys too sick for words joke about heir babes, one could talk about anything....their toe cheese hurting...
soaking their feet to get their Chemo to come out...you name it..
it was a laugh a minute...
only thing I didn't like was all the political stuff...there's just too many places to talk about that...why bring it in here...usually politics and religion have folks angry at each other in record time, so to keep the community feeling sometimes it's better to let those sleepers lie...if you follow.  That was and still is the policy in here, and I like it.

the only thing I would change, would be to put HEPATITIS SOCIAL (NOT medical questions)... in the title maybe.  OR name the other side Hepatitis C Medical forum maybe???
it's just all too often that someone wanders in and asks in the wrong forum, and they get help, but not as much as they might if they were on the other side...and that's unfortunate.
Also, not as many new patients will see their question when it's on the wrong side.
There has to be a way to more clearly define things for newbies......
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I didn't think anybody saw my question up there. Sounds like a fun forum. Maybe it will return to that somehow.

Good idea about altering the name of the forums a tad.
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I honestly doubt it, too much has happened.  
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we complained about everything, and laughed plenty, and watched guys too sick for words joke about heir babes, one could talk about anything....their toe cheese hurting...
soaking their feet to get their Chemo to come out...you name it.."

And we could disagree without anybody acting like a baby and hitting a report button because I don't think there even WAS a report button back then?  We were only allowed to start a few threads per six months per person so we made them count - so there was less drivel, iif you had more than one question you put it on your other thread so it kept the forum nice and clean and easy to read (it was even a different format) but the discussion and debates were endless.  I learned so much and admitted so many times I was so wrong because people were allowed to teach me and tell me what was reality without anybody crying about it.  

Gosh we had knock down drag out fights (at the time I truly believed NO drinking after treatment even if you were SVR no matter what stage you were for example - which by now I know to be not correct) but just because it was my opinion it didn't make it RIGHT.  Things like that we'd argue and argue but eventually see what  the facts were and not opinion.  Everyone has an opinion but that does not make them correct about something.  At least back then we could learn from our mistakes.

Now it just is report report delete close thread, feelings might get hurt.
Bah hum bug!

But boy we laughed and laughed, it was insanity but we all understood it.

Jim and Jenna on the scooters. ;)
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" I learned so much and admitted so many times I was so wrong because people were allowed to teach me and tell me what was reality without anybody crying about it. "

oh...now I'm gonna have to cry....  ; )  chorkle

but seriously....GoofyD and his babe jokes...they made my days...
nowadays they'd probably be seen as offensive to chicks...sheesh

honestly without some brevity and good ribbings what's a girl to do.
I liked it before...it felt more like brothers and sisters...
I could get a good chuckle everyday while treating...and it made life bearable...

sure we misunderstood each other some, but at least WE got to work that out...
what family doesn't have brothers and sister getting into knock down drag outs every so often??  
Still, we stood up for each other too.

One thing, nobody was trying to get people on "their side"....well, maybe they were but I wasn't aware of it...it's so juvenille. It's hard to believe even, of folks our age!!

Once someone gets subjective and decides they've been attacked they now try to run around getting everyone on their side???  It's so petty.  I think we should give it a day or 2...then if we are sure we were attacked, handle it like adults, that's my vote.

If people start PMing me to take their side I'll puke. So far so good....  
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