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Where should I be?

by susan400, May 06, 2008 09:05AM
It was suggested by one of the members that those of us who are post treatment should go away and make another forum for post treaters.   Just where would I go?   I am a post treater who didn't get SVR, so I'll probably be treating again some day.   I've got it, why don't I just make up another forum for post treaters who didn't clear who will treat again someday?    Ha-Ha     Why don't we just make about 10 different forums up?   I've been around here way longer than about 90% of the people who have joined.  I need support and I give support.   What about the rest of you?  Do you think that us post treaters with our vast experience should just vanish?  

Susan
Member Comments (50)

by Andiamo1, May 06, 2008 09:16AM
To: Susan
I like having you around and I plan on staying as long as I feel like it.  Many people ask questions about treatment and some of the most knowledgeable people on the board are post treatment.

This is a contentious week - is it a full moon or something?  Perhaps Voldemart is up to his tricks again.

by nygirl7, May 06, 2008 09:18AM
Bwah!  You can come and hang out with me in exile land of the post treaters!

As I suggested downthread to Hope - Andiamo needs to start a cruise...maybe he can drop us off at an island somewhere and we can share our knowledge with each other...forget about new people who need encouragement and wisdom when dealing with the problems of interferon treatment!

Hey - maybe we could start another forum or just crash on one that has nothing to do with us for a while rather than be here?

Seriously, that was one of the most RUDE comments I"ve ever read and If I was you I would take it with the same grain of salt that I did.

Don't you remember when you first were diagnosed how scared and confused you were? I remember coming in and bugging Jim so much I"m surprised he didn't find me and slap me silly.  God it helped a LOT having people who have been there and done that and studied all the big theories and journals that my wee brain just could NOT understand at all.  Just knowing I wasn't alone and I could cry and vent and laugh made the difference!

You are a VALUABLE member of this forum.  Not only have you been at this a long time, you've done every treatment known to man...if you don't have the right advice to give someone honey than nobody does!

Don't listen to idiots.

by Andiamo1, May 06, 2008 09:46AM
I'm ready for the cruise!

By the way, in what thread does that comment lie?

by nygirl7, May 06, 2008 09:49AM
It was a big argument thread a while back which I wouldn't want to point out in a public forum again.

Now...........onto the fun stuff..........which island did you say we were all going to my friend?????  :)

I'm so glad you are doing well.  God you deserve this more than just about anybody - except maybe Susan too!

by susan400, May 06, 2008 09:51AM
To: Andiamo1
It was in the contentious Foreseegood thread back a couple of days ago, not the new Foresee  thread just started, but the one with so many comments.  I never meant for that to get so out of control.  I need to keep my opinion about certain things to myself I guess.  I just want peace......      I need it.   I don't need the stress of all the other BS!

Susan400

by Andiamo1, May 06, 2008 09:52AM
To: nygirl
Well - what type of food do you like?  Do you like deserted beaches or casinos?

I like to mix it up, so perhaps we need to shuttle back and forth between two islands!

I will buy another boat in the 45 foot range, so it will hold six of us.

by Deb_c430, May 06, 2008 09:54AM
That post is no longer there, don't let one negative person affect you.

You have so much to offer all of you, so we are all staying here.

by Isobella, May 06, 2008 09:59AM
To: all
Oh my gosh!  

Y'all better not go anywhere!! You are 3 of the best!  

NYGirl, you were the first person I "spoke" to here and you were so encouraging.

Andiamo--who else can teach me Italian??

Susan-Sorry someone was rude to you. :-(  You are so nice!!  Mean people su@k!!

Izzy

by nygirl7, May 06, 2008 10:48AM
To: Isobella
You are a sweetheart thank you so much.  Don't worry - I won't let susan go anywhere...that is why I'm busting her chops so much!


We're just teasing about leaving to go on a cruise with Andiamo - our sailor friend who just HAS to take us all somewhere!  You have to come too! (Eric...we need a BIG yacht...a REAL big yacht!) :)

by mremeet, May 06, 2008 11:04AM
Where is this salacious post? I could use a jerry springer moment, has it been deleted? And susan of course you can stay here. I'm post tx and plan on squatting here off and on for a long time...probably. ;-)

by susan400, May 06, 2008 11:24AM
To: all
Thank-you all.   I'm happy to stay around here.  Even if I cleared, I'd still want to stick around here just to be able to offer encouragement to those people who are just starting off with their treatments.   Interferon and Ribavirin can be a real challenge and I've been through it enough times.    All it really takes is once though and you become a 'pro' because unless you've treated with the big guns, then, you really don't have any concept of what 'Riba Rage' truly is, or the Interferon 'duh', 'blahs' are, or the nauseous, headachy, waiting for lab results, wanting it to be over with - blues are all about.  Or the waking up in the middle of the night with chills and sweats and aches and wondering, "am I going to live through this?' feeling.   But, when you get done with all of that, coming off of the drugs has a certain 'withdrawal' feeling as well, so then, you need the support of post treaters - like us, who know about that, too.  Even though I haven't cleared, I do know that hopefullness that you feel when you see a viral load drop, so I can relate on that level.   I also know about the brushing your hair and seeing it come off in the comb or brush in big clumps is like and having to unstop up the drain from the hair blobs.  And when it grows back in, I had like a mini-mohawk going on.  Ha-Ha      SO - much fun.     Anyhow, I hope that you've been able to relate to my synopsis somewhat.

Susan

by charm27, May 06, 2008 11:35AM
To: Susan
Thats unacceptable that you were told to "go away" come back another day??
Each and every one of us make up this forum.

You stay!!!
THis is the United States of America.
How could someone say this ??

Hoping it was a mis-communication.

Charm

by Deb_c430, May 06, 2008 11:38AM
Med help removed them, I suppose would be my guess. Hard tx or no,  that sort of attack is on called for.  it isn't the first time and apology offered.

That is it to,  even for people like me who have done this more than once,  sometimes I need someone to tell me to slow down and breath.

I am always willing to help, I see that in you guys also,   I appreciate you, for me, for so many new folks who have so many questions and ya'all are never to tired to answer.


Deb

by Lady Lauri, May 06, 2008 12:01PM
To: Susan
I missed that as not online much lately!

Absurd and rude! You, other relapser’s need this place perhaps even more! New tx's, new trials, support from 'being there' already!! That’s like telling us that have finished tx we need to go away also??

SVR forum
Waiting for SVR news forum
In tx forum
Thinking about tx forum
Relapsed forum………
C’mon !!!!!!!

Even if I like whoever said that, your being scolded, put in your place here!

Love having you here, do not let one persons insensitivity upset you. Too many others here for you!

See you in 2 weeks!

Okay, now on to that cruise idea :) I like that!!

LL

by jdwithhcv, May 06, 2008 01:37PM
To: All you post treaters
Please don't leave us!!!  Love you guys - we NEED you here.  All of you.

by nygirl7, May 06, 2008 01:48PM
Remember that old old song by the Shangri Las - reminds me of us....

Poor poor post treaters and relapsers and breakthroughers being sent out to pasture...


Those folks were always putting us down

(down, down)

They said we came from

The wrong side of town.......................

(wrong side of town)

Theyd told us that we were bad

But I know they were so sad .................................


Reminds me of high school - the kids that were always so jealous of the cool kids hahaha of that one guy with the nice motorcycle that went vroom vroom and you could hear it for miles (I always loved them guys!)

The excuse of "hard treatment" now that's a joke - I'd like to know which one of you it was so easy on in here?

Peace out.


;)

by MrsOckert, May 06, 2008 01:58PM
To: Susan
Da*n - just when things get exciting I go and forget to stop by and lurk.  I remember when I first got here three years ago it wasn't the newbies whose opinions I was interested in - it was the been there, done that group.

Oh well.  I guess I'll go stir up some trouble on the relationship forum or maybe I'll go hang out with the divorced and break up people.  Now those are some crazy nutty people.

BTW - how are things going post treatment.  I just found out I have a hole in my stomach and my "z line is crisp" whatever the he!! that means.

by geterdone, May 06, 2008 05:17PM
To: Susan400
You know Susan; I had made a similar statement many many months ago to someone who irritated the living hell out of me it was like pulling the hairs on the back of the neck, always up beat when you’re feeling very miserable and hating life and yourself as well. The kind you hate to love and love to hate, it was kind of like you hated reading any parts of the post but you did, why? because you don’t know at the time that person is pulling you along to get you through to the end where ever that may be and when that person disappears you realize damn, it just don’t seem the same around here anymore and wonder if it was something you said. Well, I am considered post TX now, (I think) and I’m still posting here and so is the other person and am glad she is here as well because you are right and so was she we all needed help and so do new people to endure the trying times of the before, during and after of treatment. Christmas Island… is right here!

jasper

by Proactive, May 06, 2008 06:02PM
Who here has not had their own moments? Get over it.........................
pro

by merryBe, May 06, 2008 06:13PM
To: susan400
oh say it ain't so joe...

look what a great help you are...and the post treaters know more, and have their sense of humor back.....remember how crusty treaters get.....

so we need you.......you can always write privately....and copy/paste it to 10 friends..

but I'm kinda feeling sorry things got so split up...
I mean....I suggested the separate forum for A and B'er becuase their tx is different and they weren't being well served...but now I miss them...and wonder if the split is really helping them...

anyway it's refreshing to see SVR people in here........and you don't have to answer or read every thread...so relax and enjoy is all..

by Trish77, May 06, 2008 06:40PM
I don't think anyone wants people who have achieved SVR to go on their own island somewhere and it would be a shame to let that thought take hold.  Heated words got spoken, tempers flared and people got wounded.   As Pro said, who here hasn't had their moments? I regret that I've certainly had my share. The occasional flare-ups happen.  It would be a shame to let that fester to create further division.

I'd like to gently suggest we put this behind us and get back to the business of supporting each other pre-tx, during tx, post tx, and those who can't tx.  That's when this place is at it's best, yes?

Take care, all.

Trish

by Xenigma, May 06, 2008 07:02PM
To: Susan
NO-DON'T GO!!
I've been here since 2002 and I feel reading all sides of tx is important.
I believe this is and has been one of the best forums out there.
Pre-tx, tx, or post tx'ers  We can all learn from one another's experiences
even though it seems we all react differently to tx.
This is a hcv forum, so all aspects of tx should be here...
enigma

by mremeet, May 06, 2008 07:04PM
Yeah lets put this behind us now.

Seriously though, who IS the butt nugget that said post treaters should hit the highway??? ;-)

by Trish77, May 06, 2008 07:09PM
This is being blown WAY out of proportion.  So in the immortal words of Forrest Gump .. "that's all I'm gonna say 'bout that"   Y'all knock yourselves out brewing up a storm.

by fretboard, May 06, 2008 07:20PM
To: susan400
This is where you belong and whatever happened just let it roll off your back.  All of the people above and mentioned above have helped me out in more ways than I can say.  That includes you, mostly all of the hard to clear's have advise and wisdom that goes beyond my doctor's knowledge and experience.  Hey I've learned alot from you and if I did, then that means anybody can.  LOL  We all need support and guidance or we wouldn't be here, sure there are a handful of know it all's, but that just adds to the mix.  It would truly be boring if we all agreed on every little thing that comes up, so I suggest you just stay put, please...  God Bless

by susan400, May 06, 2008 08:13PM
To: all
I'm not going anywhere.  I was just surprised that somebody suggested that us post treaters needed another forum.    I'm over it.    I just won't be getting into those arguments anymore because as some famous person once said, "if you can't stand the heat, git out of the kitchen!"        Well since I want to be in the kitchen, I need to stay out othat heat!      :)

Susan

by derbykid, May 06, 2008 08:31PM
After searching i find the thread in question is a week old, why wait so long to bring it up? Is it just to stir the pot? Attention?. Sense is was forgot about, why!!!!!

by ladybug52, May 06, 2008 09:22PM
To: Pro/Trish/Derbykid
and all others who are even slightly sane....this is so typical of the junior high forum mentality....taking something out of context and twisting it to get attention.....
Susan:
no one ever said "leave Susan", seriously, I thought you were above that ***@**** goes to show we really don't know the person on the other side of the keyboard/monitor.
I know that I get on here less, because good kind decent people have been run off. How about telling someone they shouldn't give advice on supplements since they never achieved SVR??
Is that not running someone off?
Should she have started a what should I say post?
One of my closest friends has deleted her profile, honestly she has too much going on in her life to deal with much more...
But ya know what??
I'm not leaving.....
And I'm certainly not going to start a poor me where should I  go thread!
Thank goodness this forum isn't my life like it is to those who have too much time on theirs hands adn have to pull you in to the fray...
This saddens me Susan.....I always thought you were kind.
Bug

by kickboxingmom, May 06, 2008 09:34PM
To: susan400 and ALL !
OMG please don't anyone leave who has been through this.I'm new geno 1a and starting treatments in two weeks .These past two nights getting on here has been a pain, I couldn't imagine not being able to ask you guys stuff.                                     Thank you ahead of time. Tammy

by meki, May 07, 2008 03:00AM
I think it is important for everyone who is HCV pos --- or dealing with HCV in their lives, families or friends to stick together.

We are strength in knowledge and compassion plus understanding.

For new people coming in - people who have already run the mill have some answers that they need.

PLUS they have the experience - the complete understanding that no one has unless they've been there --- been through it all.

SVRs - People who have treated - people who have lived with the disease - those with ESLD - Those who are just beginning and those who have educated themselves --- They have something they can give back to the world.

Even if it is only in this forum.

In fact - they have several things they can give:

****Information
****Education
****Hope
****Love
****Understanding
****Opinions
****Help

And more....

I can't imagine there being something so silly --- what --- leave a group of new people floundering with no info - no help?

That's preposterous.

And simply silly.

Susan - you're an amazing person - and you know better... You know you needed help and hope when you came here... What would you have done if only a group of new people who knew less than you --- were here?

It would be horrible.

Each person comes here for something different -- -but in the end -- those of us who stay - do so because we have something to give back for some people...

Not everyone likes everyone --- not everyone is perfect --- But together as a community --- WE ARE PERFECT...

Our good, our bad, our beautiful and our ugly.

We are a community --- and that's kinda like a family.

We all share a common thing - and we're here because we want to be.

Jasper --- LOL - I dunno whether you meant me or not... But I think that's the nicest things anyone has ever said.

I REALLY DO CARE ABOUT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

No matter how you feel about me.

I REALLY DO WANT THIS DISEASE GONE FROM THE WORLD... Maybe it will happen in my lifetime...

But I believe we all need the HOPE ---- that it can be done... For the world and for ourselves.

Many hugs to all of you.

Meki

by susan400, May 07, 2008 07:32AM
To: Susan400
For the record, I am kind.    Now, with that being said, I want to drop this whole thing.   I am staying.   I do have a lot to offer.    That's all.

Susan

by ladybug52, May 07, 2008 08:35AM
To: Susan
I believe you. I know you are kind. I know you have a lot to offer....you offered me a lot of support when I first came.

You're right, let's drop it. I fly off the handle but I respect you and hope we can get past this, I know it's intimidating to those new to the forum when they see strife....

Bug

by nygirl7, May 07, 2008 08:36AM
Ladybug

You haven't been around here in quite a while and honestly have not been privvy to the real situation but instead listen to the one person on this forum who BEGINS all of the problems with her continual steams of insults and condemnation.

It is funny that everyone in here sees what is going on, even MedHelp, but this one person continues to spread the word about the "gang" mentality and other craziness.

You could not have "read" the thread with all the insults yet yesterday you came in fully knowing the situation and prepared to begin the issues up again - when they were OVER and DONE because we chose to IGNORE The nonsense that the woman starts.

The forum here is a kind and loving place where people share information.  Unfortunately, not everyone likes everyone. It's just that way in life.  Obviously that "gang" moved over to another forum where they are happy enough so why not just let it go.

I have no intention of following them to their new place and in the same amount of respect if they don't have anything nice to say and only come in here to yell and scream insults and stir the pot well......it just goes to show who the "gang" is and who is not.

You've always been a kind person so I'm not sure why you are listening to the garbage. Take my advice and just ingore it and let the forum go on being the helpful caring place it was intended to be.

by ladybug52, May 07, 2008 08:50AM
To: Nygirl
"You could not have "read" the thread with all the insults yet yesterday you came in fully knowing the situation and prepared to begin the issues up again"

Actually, I do know what's going on, I check in here all the time. Not posting doesn't mean I'm not around.

I saw all the comments, first your comments were deleted then the other persons. I'm sure Medhelp was trying to be fair, not listening to either of you.

I wanted to post on the first Forsee thread, but I knew that you had already made a statement about someone posting who hadn't been on for awhile,exactly the same comment you made to me this morning.

Are we not entitled to post whenever we want, or is there a minimum daily requirement for posting? You tell me as you seem to want to set the rules.

I hate myself for continuing to get into this, because everyone loses. Let's agree to disagree and leave it at that.

First rule of fair play, let's ignore each other if we don't agree...

And for the record, I'm not as kind as some others here.....

Bug

by nygirl7, May 07, 2008 09:33AM
I'd rather not argue with you whatsoever.  I don't remember ever arguing you in the past for any reason and don't intend to start now, it's all so stupid.

Agree to disagree.

by meki, May 07, 2008 11:44AM
Youse guys --- let me reiterate something ----- OK?

WE ARE FAMILY.

Joined by a common nucleus --- cellular structure... HCV.

Now get the Darn Turkey out of the Oven --- pass the mashed potatoes ---- I want some of that Green Bean Casserole --- and HEY --- You kids --- quit arguing over there...

Anyone want some gravy?

Oh --- hey --- did you hear the joke about the travelling salesman?

He forgot which house he was in and sold a vacuum to his own wife.

You know what the moral of that story is?

The Traveling salesman was doing TX --- was on brain fog --- and the wife realized he didn't have a clue --- so instead of arguing or giving him a hard time --- she decided to take advantage of him - get a new vacuum cleaner ---- increase sales ---- and love her husband no matter what.

Hmmmmm.... Sounds like real life to me.

Oh yeah?

Wow --- cool beans man --- No... They're not cool - just an expression --- could you pass the pepper?

Thanks dude...

Now... the way I see it...


EVERYONE IS NEEDED.

We ALL have something awesome to offer.

You don't have to like each other... Heck --- you don't have to like me.

BUT --- We all are unique --- and we all are here because we need each other.

Some of us may need to argue... (AHEM --- no way --- right?)

Some of us may need to comment on everything --- (I certainly wouldn't know who that might be... *grin*)

Some of us may lurk... Some of us may get upset at something we perceive to be real or not...

Some of us may think everything is funny ---- and even more of us may think everything is horrible...

Each of us is an individual sitting in front of their keyboard and monitor.

And.........................

Just like a FAMILY --- we have our oddballs - our old Grannies and Gramps - our Teenagers --- our Solid strong Scientist Uncles and Aunties --- Our Misfits and Our Moms and Dads --- PLUS OUR SIBLINGS....

Now --- I dunno about youse folks --- but in my family --- every Thanksgiving --- there's always someone who has to pipe in and tell everyone what to do...

And there is always someone who is more intoxicated than the rest...

And there is someone who just is surly and mean...

And there is always the cackling hens....

And there is always someone who can't find anything...

And the toilet ALWAYS clogs up...

BUT...

When it's time to eat --- all of us look at each other --- and we're very glad for one another.

And for the entire dinner - for some reason - we collectively come together...

NO MATTER WHAT --- WE ARE FAMILY...

Now....

Here --- on these forums... We are family.

Whether you want to admit it or not...

The common link --- or genetic design --- between all of us --- is a stupid - awful --- VIRUS.

A Disease.

So --- pass the mashed potatoes again...

And think about it.

If youse guys need to fight --- do it over there in the corner.

EVERYONE --- EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU --- has something to offer...

Even if it is only to pass the Muffins....

But you need to pass those muffins. At least to me... Cause I'm starving.

And there are a lot of new folks here who are starving too...

They're starving for your input -- and they are new family members... So they're kind of scared ---- or nervous already...

They've just been told they have HCV --- So they're sitting at our table...

AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO TURN...

And each of you has some mashed potatoes to give them... Or maybe a different recipe.

So instead of drama --- which --- honestly --- can be fun amongst family -- cause it gives us all something to feed off of... Could we maybe realize each of us...

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US...

Has something valuable for this community?

IS VALUABLE TO THIS COMMUNITY?

OK ---- I'm gonna go eat now -- cause there are some awsome Spinach Casseroles over there...

But if you guys could --- for a moment --- believe in each other....

And maybe just smile --- or ignore the bad things... Or try to see the good in everyone...

I'd really appreciate it.

And dang --- is there any pie left?

Meki

by ejoli, May 07, 2008 10:48PM
To: all
Hey, I want to be included on that cruise!  I'm a post treater who will probably treat again sometime.... I'll be nice and not tell anyone to "go away".    Really, some people!
                                                                                  -Libby

by FullOfHope77, May 07, 2008 10:50PM
To: Susan400
Wow, you were one of the first people that I 'talked' to on here over a year ago and you were in Prove 3 Arm C and I honestly felt you got cheated. (you helped the cause and that helps others but you didn't get the relief you deserve).

But I'm going to hang around as I go through post tx and repoort on progress or the 'other' but hope that I SVR. I appreciate you very much and glad you've been here for a source of encouragment! Please stay.... :)

by scratchinghead, May 07, 2008 11:31PM
I don't mind the post txers here. Especially if they have information, and god they sure do. Kinda going to rely on them to map out my treatment path when the time comes.

Them also sticking around here also reminds me that just because I go thru treatment someday, I'll still be a loser with no life and I can use this forum for my lonely hearts club. bwahahaha

by Lady Lauri, May 08, 2008 12:08AM
To: Scratchin
Your so crazy :)

I'm trying to stay OUT of this thread!

Okay, while I'm here...........
all I'll say and I'm out.......is I have never seen Susan instigate nor have the personality to do so... anything. She has always been kind. This bothered her, she vented that, it's done.

No more need for nastiness!! Opinions , skip the outright nastiness.

Meki.....how do you get all that out :) ?? And I so agree, all offer something here. Let's all just get along. Oddly, I always understand everything you say,lol! And now I'm craving mashed potatoes!

So scratchin, about that trunk and the dog and wife..............

LL

by DragonTamer, May 09, 2008 08:37PM
To: ALL you wonder Pre and Post Txer's
As a newbie I just want to say THANK YOU and send (((((((((((((((((((BEAR HUGS)))))))))))))  gay or not :) LOL ( I did get a giggle out of that conversation about the notes) to everyone of you who are here for the newbies, the oldies, and the middle of the roadies!!!  
Without this forum and your seasoned knowledge and PATIENCE I would not be feeling as positive pre Tx as I do!   You have all been a blessing to me and a well of knowledge and comfort... and I'm sure to many many others as well, who have been in my shoes... just finding out news that will indeed change our lives for a very long time or forever.

Who but those who have been through it, have the knowledge and experience to share with the newly diagnosed....Those who have acheived SVR especially, can give us, the newbies and the struggling the hope we so desperatly need.  
I did not read the thread you are talking about, I don't care to,don't know or care who you are talking about, I just wanted to tip my hat to all of you, who give of yourselves, your time, knowledge and HOPE, everytime I and others have reached out for it!
I think you all should  get a get into heaven free card! :)
Dragon Tamer
OH and GOOD NEWS!!  My insurance has approved my Tx today and the co-payment  will not break the bank, as I was so worried it would! Wanted to pass that on especially to Trish77.

by w.c. missy, May 10, 2008 02:54AM
To: susan400
as a fellow prove 3'r, I for one think it is of the utmost importance you stay!  You have shared such wonderful experience, strength & hope with all of us, and your history i invaluable to anyone on treatment, pre or post.  Don't let anyone ruffle your feathers - you are right where you belong!

peace,
w.c. missy  

by Trish77, May 10, 2008 11:22AM
Okay.  I've been hoping this thread would die off but yet, it lives and perpetuates the impression that SOMEONE suggested that Susan should go away, that post-treaters should go away and that people with SVR should go away.  

This was NEVER EVER the case.  

What was actually said were the two following comments:

First, this comment:  

"I've been so confused about 4C pretending she was going to do treatment all this time that that whole story went straight over my head and out the window!

There was a point? A moral? I thought it was going to make sense to me but just like my above statement - nothing does anymore! "

Forseegood has been around here awhile...was very close to heading into treatment and then dropped off the forum to deal with whatever is most important to her.  I was personally shocked at the suggestion that Forseegood was "pretending" to do treatment but said nothing.  Someone got their back up .. someone who obviously has longstanding issues with the person who MADE this comment....and words were exchanged and then the notorious comment that's been referred to was made:

"There really should be a post treatment forum for those who have reached SVR and for one reason or another have a need to get rid of a lot of negativity."

I WISH this was directed at Susan, because that would mean she is SVR.  Unfortunately, you are not Susan and I wish to God you were.  NOWHERE in this comment does it mention post-treaters, Susan.  NOWHERE.  This comment had NOTHING to do with you.  NOTHING.  Just because one person starts a thread does NOT mean that every comment IN that thread has something to do with the person who started it.  You may be feeling sensitive that the thread you started contained such comments .. but the comments STILL have nothing to do with you and I have NO idea why you would start THIS thread asking people to rally all around post-treaters and those who are SVR.  It just creates further divisiveness and drives people away.  

As for someone saying all SVR people should go away from the forums... give me a break.  That comment I've copied above from the original thread (which I was able to do because someone else quoted it so it's still THERE in the thread), is obviously making a point that the person who made the comment about Forseegood pretending to go through treatment has alot of negativity and is suggesting that there be a forum for SVR people who have alot of negativity to deal with.  That is their own personal comment TO the person making the "pretending" comment.  It is NOT directed at ALL SVR people carte blanche.

It was personal, it was directed at ONE person and between two people and not even suggesting that she go find a different forum because she's SVR .. but more because the negative aspects of her comment were not appreciated, directed at someone who has yet to go through treatment and is dealing with her own priorities and NOT the priorities of people in this forum FOR her treatment.

So Susan, can you PLEASE put a stop to this?  This was NEVER about you.  You may have started that thread, but it was NEVER about you.  It was between the two people who snipered each other back and forth for whatever reasons they have of their own.

NOBODY, but NOBODY suggested that ALL SVR people should disappear.

THIS is what I meant earlier when I said that this is being blown all out of proportion and threatens further divisiveness here.

So can we PLEASE.....all STOP.  NOBODY is saying SVR people should disappear.  So we can all stop making plaintive wailings for SVR people to please stay.  There is NO MOVEMENT AFOOT TO DRIVE SVR PEOPLE OUT.  

Now can we PLEASE stop all the Jerry Springer silliness????

by susan400, May 10, 2008 11:50AM
To: Trish77
Did you read what I said on May 7th of this thread?  I said that I want to drop this whole thing.   That means that I want to drop this whole thing.  Okay?    Chill.......

Susan

by Trish77, May 10, 2008 12:13PM
To: Susan
I appealed to you to take some action to stop the ongoing comments since you started this thread. Pandora's Box got opened and you saying you want to drop it doesn't seem to have put a stop to the "please don't go!" posts that just keep on coming based on what you stated, which was misleading.  Perhaps that is how the comments made you FEEL .. but that is very different from what was actually SAID.  I do understand that what we FEEL can be very powerful, so that is not a judgment on you.  I have reacted out of feelings rather than reality far more than I'd like in my lifetime.

If you feel you've already done all you can do to halt this by making your May 7th post stating you want to drop this, then I accept that as your response.  

Hopefully people will see that what we have here is a case of hurt feelings and NOT a case of ANYONE wanting post-treaters or SVR people to disappear .. and perhaps this whole thing can REALLY be dropped now.

Trish

by charm27, May 10, 2008 05:25PM
All I would like to say is if this was an all male thread the posts would have ended by the third one.

Im glad most of my friends are male.
I could never be a part of the bickering ................

I agree with Trish this was between two people who for reasons of their own had to say what they had to say- it was between them only.

Susan we all care about you and want you here! You had nothing to do with the banting back and forth. You wanted peace we all do do we are with you.

The End.
You have no control over others.

by charm27, May 10, 2008 05:28PM
Minus one do please!! Though very appropriate do do!!
Sorry  I cant type properly on tx.


Have a happy mothers day to all the moms and enjoy the rest of the  weekend!

by susan400, May 10, 2008 06:22PM
To: charm27
Thanks, Charm, you have a HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY, too.   I celebrated it a week early with my son last weekend.  

Susan

by mikesimon, May 11, 2008 02:49PM
To: Susan
Hi Susan. Happy Mother's Day to you and all of the Mothers here.
Mike

by susan400, May 11, 2008 03:40PM
To: Mikesimon
Thanks, Mike....      I appreciate that.

Susan
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