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Where's your perspective?
A devotional from Mr. Charles R. Swindoll was sent across my mailbox today which contained a couple of thoughts which I found encapsulate the perspective I have tried to embrace since being diagnosed, attempting treatment, finding out the treatment failed me, and receiving a report last Wednesday that the very treatment which was supposed to help me may have resulted in me now having a diabetic condition.
The following are those thoughts which I would like to share with all of you:
"When struck by an arrow, don
The following are those thoughts which I would like to share with all of you:
"When struck by an arrow, don
I once had difficulty understanding some of them too. But I found that when viewed from the Amplified translation which I posted, it became much clearer. Guess I needed the amplification to allow me to hear God's still small voice speaking to me ;-O
Actually, I've found the Amplified translation of the Bible helps me understand all the meaning behind the words that the original language of His Word had but which our English lacks. A good example would be the word "love" and how it has several meanings (i.e. Eros, Zoe, Agape, Phileo, Stergo, etc) that are clear when seen in their Greek form but become dependent upon the context in which it is used in English.
I suppose some may see the Isiah reference as one pointing out the God is vengeful too, but to clarify my understanding that it is a prophecy of how God will one day take vengeance for the wages of sin which is the death that causes others to mourn.
Actually, I've found the Amplified translation of the Bible helps me understand all the meaning behind the words that the original language of His Word had but which our English lacks. A good example would be the word "love" and how it has several meanings (i.e. Eros, Zoe, Agape, Phileo, Stergo, etc) that are clear when seen in their Greek form but become dependent upon the context in which it is used in English.
I suppose some may see the Isiah reference as one pointing out the God is vengeful too, but to clarify my understanding that it is a prophecy of how God will one day take vengeance for the wages of sin which is the death that causes others to mourn.
Yes the Amplified is excellent.
I have been using the New King James for a while now. I really like it alot. If people only knew what is in their bible. I actually get mad (I know I shouldn't) that I didn't find out until I was an adult.
Well if you and I never meet this side of heaven I do look forward to meeting you when we leave this life behind.
I have been using the New King James for a while now. I really like it alot. If people only knew what is in their bible. I actually get mad (I know I shouldn't) that I didn't find out until I was an adult.
Well if you and I never meet this side of heaven I do look forward to meeting you when we leave this life behind.
Thanks for the further explanation. I sometimes wonder where a quote comes from or if it is indivisual interpretation.
Wishing you peace, joy and chocolate bunnies :) OH
Wishing you peace, joy and chocolate bunnies :) OH
Thanks GrandOak. Yes the Beatitudes says it all and is exactly how I came to an understanding. Beatitudes is not always so easily understood by many but nonetheless needs to be seen and heard.
"And how shall they hear without a preacher." Romans 10:15
"And how shall they hear without a preacher." Romans 10:15
I just thought I'd provide a possible answer your question to Myown on God wanting us to mourn by defering to Jesus' own words in the third of what is more commonly known as "The Beatitudes", particualrily for the Catholic church:
Matthew 5:4 [Amp] Blessed and enviably happy [with a happiness produced by the experience of God's favor and especially conditioned by the revelation of His matchless grace] are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted!
As well as the words from the Old Testament prophet Isaiah:
Isaiah 61:2 [Amp] To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord [the year of His favor] and the day of vengeance of our God, to comfort all who mourn,
Hope this helps to see how I've come to understand it from God's Word itself.
I too would like to thank you folks for your kind words and thoughts. After having tx fail me, I found I needed to step back and focus more on putting it behind me and putting more attention towards my family. After 10 months of recovery followed by 10 months of HCV treatment, I felt I needed to put more attention towards them. When coupled with work, helping a Recovery church which started a few months ago, getting involved with a Compassion Center, and some of the other areas I'm trying to help in, it has left me with precious little time for much else.
Now as of last week I find myself in need of embarking on another journy to try and locate a competent doctor to help with my possible diabetes condition and again feeling frustrated at how difficult it can be at times. I must say though that it has opened my eyes as to how fortunate we are to have such active forums as these for folks with HCV to turn too. It seems the same can not be said for some of the others I've tried to turn to but is a common trait found on nearly all HCV forums I've seen.
I've try to stay current by scanning these forums, which were a lifeline during my trial of tx, and not posted much to this one in recent months as I've found to hard to keep up with both forums. I think I've placed more attention to the other forum and posted there more frequently to share what I experienced and learned during my tx trial with those who are searching for answers.
Sometimes one needs a bit of a break and to let others help the newer folks entering or risk suffering burnout from answering the same questions over and over again as each comes with the same fears, questions, and concerns. Again, we are so fortunate in that it seems our disease appears to be as unique in drawing us together as it is to suffer from compared to many others out there.
It is my in my prayers that it does not become so common place as others so that folks fail to come together to openly share and support one another.
Now as of last week I find myself in need of embarking on another journy to try and locate a competent doctor to help with my possible diabetes condition and again feeling frustrated at how difficult it can be at times. I must say though that it has opened my eyes as to how fortunate we are to have such active forums as these for folks with HCV to turn too. It seems the same can not be said for some of the others I've tried to turn to but is a common trait found on nearly all HCV forums I've seen.
I've try to stay current by scanning these forums, which were a lifeline during my trial of tx, and not posted much to this one in recent months as I've found to hard to keep up with both forums. I think I've placed more attention to the other forum and posted there more frequently to share what I experienced and learned during my tx trial with those who are searching for answers.
Sometimes one needs a bit of a break and to let others help the newer folks entering or risk suffering burnout from answering the same questions over and over again as each comes with the same fears, questions, and concerns. Again, we are so fortunate in that it seems our disease appears to be as unique in drawing us together as it is to suffer from compared to many others out there.
It is my in my prayers that it does not become so common place as others so that folks fail to come together to openly share and support one another.
Your welcome.
I am definitely not one that communicates well through written word. I see that I am constantly and consistantly misunderstood, so I am probably the only one that understood what I originally wrote. lol
I communicate much better when having conversation with someone, so I can understand why you questioned what I wrote. I'm glad you did though incase someone else wondered the meaning of what I said.
Take care.
I am definitely not one that communicates well through written word. I see that I am constantly and consistantly misunderstood, so I am probably the only one that understood what I originally wrote. lol
I communicate much better when having conversation with someone, so I can understand why you questioned what I wrote. I'm glad you did though incase someone else wondered the meaning of what I said.
Take care.
GO: Ah, one can often change perspective by simply looking at things from a different angle. Is the glass half empty or half full? We are given so many chances to learn more about ourselves. I have had to re-examine many of my own beleifs through this disease. Thank you for encouraging us to think.
MO: I don't understand the idea that God wants us to mourn death. Death is as natural as life, its part of the cycle. Some religions celebrate death as a relief from earthly suffering. Everything that lives will die, be it a flower or a sentinent being. We mourn for ourselves, our loss. The dead don't care if we mourn. Anyway thats my thought.
MO: I don't understand the idea that God wants us to mourn death. Death is as natural as life, its part of the cycle. Some religions celebrate death as a relief from earthly suffering. Everything that lives will die, be it a flower or a sentinent being. We mourn for ourselves, our loss. The dead don't care if we mourn. Anyway thats my thought.
Its not as if God wants us to focus on something that makes us feel down or whatever, but if one doesn't mourn (or let it out) it can and will be very hard for a person to heal. The people mourned the death of Moses and then moved on.
I think we all know someone who is afraid to let their feelings out and most of us have seen the damage that that can cause emotionally and actually can cause physical problems too.
When you said the dead don't care if we mourn, you are absolutley right. Mourning is for the living as a release or a good bye lets say.
As a Christian I mourn the death of friends and loved ones,very hard to hold back the tears and why would I, but at the funerals we are also there to celebrate that persons life. That is very natural and healthy.
I think we all know someone who is afraid to let their feelings out and most of us have seen the damage that that can cause emotionally and actually can cause physical problems too.
When you said the dead don't care if we mourn, you are absolutley right. Mourning is for the living as a release or a good bye lets say.
As a Christian I mourn the death of friends and loved ones,very hard to hold back the tears and why would I, but at the funerals we are also there to celebrate that persons life. That is very natural and healthy.
Beautiful, Grand Oak! Thanks so much for sharing this profound wisdom!
I think we try to go through life taking care of everything by ourselves, and being "independent" and "strong."
It's when you're knocked down that you're amazed by the number of people sent by God, to reach down and give you a hand back up.
We resist at first, but when we accept help and realize that others are blessed when they do God's will, we finally understand why we're here. God wants us to help and support each other!! That's when we can finally rest and have peace about our circumstances.
I've always loved Chuck Swindoll...he's such an inspiration!!
I think we try to go through life taking care of everything by ourselves, and being "independent" and "strong."
It's when you're knocked down that you're amazed by the number of people sent by God, to reach down and give you a hand back up.
We resist at first, but when we accept help and realize that others are blessed when they do God's will, we finally understand why we're here. God wants us to help and support each other!! That's when we can finally rest and have peace about our circumstances.
I've always loved Chuck Swindoll...he's such an inspiration!!
I love it! Thanks for sharing. It is amazing how it really does fit into our life more now than back then.
I think you communicate beautifully...sometimes I can tell youre a little agitated, youre taking agitatin' drugs afterall...makes your posts a little spicy sometimes....wonder what's my excuse? he he...I like reading your posts....
foresee you are so cute, thanks sweety. But in all honesty the drugs yes have affected me as far as short tempered, but the spicy personlity is also me without riba. ha!
I have to leave the forum in June for sure because I loose my excuse for being a spice girl. ha!
I have to leave the forum in June for sure because I loose my excuse for being a spice girl. ha!
yeah I think I have to leave this forum for a stretch after I finish tx, so I can try to forget about hep c until all my results are in. I will come back now and then because I will miss everyone if I don't. You can always contact me though through SFB. She has my email and phone number.
I wouldn't just leave and not try to keep in contact with some of you guys. I thought MH was going to get the private email thing. What happened to that?
I wouldn't just leave and not try to keep in contact with some of you guys. I thought MH was going to get the private email thing. What happened to that?
hey, at least our posts are being posted for the most part, ha ha! I don't blame you, after all that, I'd figure you'd need a break from all things hep c...you'll land on your feet...
Thanks for that, GO.
Again, i'm so sorry to hear about the diabetes, but your attitude is inspiring.
In a strange way, for me the DX has been both a blessing and a curse.
The more time goes by, the more I realize the new opportunities presented somehow seem to outweigh the hardships imposed.
Not that anyone in their right mind would ever INVITE the virus into their lives.
But if it does pay a visit, it seems TO WORK OUT better to accept it, face it and try to deal with it rather than run away from it.
Wyntre
Again, i'm so sorry to hear about the diabetes, but your attitude is inspiring.
In a strange way, for me the DX has been both a blessing and a curse.
The more time goes by, the more I realize the new opportunities presented somehow seem to outweigh the hardships imposed.
Not that anyone in their right mind would ever INVITE the virus into their lives.
But if it does pay a visit, it seems TO WORK OUT better to accept it, face it and try to deal with it rather than run away from it.
Wyntre
neglected to mention how sorry I am that you relapsed, and that I hope things work out for you much better in the future...you certainly display such strenth and will...
I have an ex-boyfriend, the guy I probably contracted this disease with, or from...who is dying of liver cancer...he treated 3 times to no avail.... he is one of the "unfortunate" ones I guess...he was diagnosed with liver cancer years ago, but because of his strong faith and positive attitude (and because he's a real never give-up, can-do type of guy....and was able to participate in some of the latest treatments, among them stem cell treatments.....he was a cardiac RN so he knew where to go and how to get things done) he has lasted much, much longer then they originally gave him...but it seems his time is coming relatively soon, the cancer is spreading aggressively now....
Yet, when we speak, it's always Frank that is cheering ME up, laughing and seeing the humor in situations....he is far more positive then I am regarding this whole "hep c situation.....I hesitate to admit...he told me it's probably because he's had to work "harder" then me at staying positive, given his circumstances. He's more invested then I am...
I understand that now, he works much harder then I do at staying positive, he has to.....what are his alternatives? Being angry and doom and gloom?....that would ruin the rest of his stay here on earth...even though I know it's hard for him, I know it can't be easy...
I think he has been one of my greatest teachers, in some ways more valuable to my education then all the professors I had in college put together...Yet, I won't mince words, when he used to drink and drug, he was one of the biggest "sh!ts" I knew, he's the first to admit this...
But he's learned so much in his 15 years of sobriety, obviously much more then I have in certain areas...he's now one of the most noble, truly "good" people that I have the honor of knowing.....whatever is in the cards for him, I'll always keep him in my heart, Frank and his wonderful wife Liz...
Yet, when we speak, it's always Frank that is cheering ME up, laughing and seeing the humor in situations....he is far more positive then I am regarding this whole "hep c situation.....I hesitate to admit...he told me it's probably because he's had to work "harder" then me at staying positive, given his circumstances. He's more invested then I am...
I understand that now, he works much harder then I do at staying positive, he has to.....what are his alternatives? Being angry and doom and gloom?....that would ruin the rest of his stay here on earth...even though I know it's hard for him, I know it can't be easy...
I think he has been one of my greatest teachers, in some ways more valuable to my education then all the professors I had in college put together...Yet, I won't mince words, when he used to drink and drug, he was one of the biggest "sh!ts" I knew, he's the first to admit this...
But he's learned so much in his 15 years of sobriety, obviously much more then I have in certain areas...he's now one of the most noble, truly "good" people that I have the honor of knowing.....whatever is in the cards for him, I'll always keep him in my heart, Frank and his wonderful wife Liz...
very nice. and thought provoking. i certainly can agree with changed perspective of what is important in life.
I believe that true wisdom and compassion are learned through hard times. That is the bright side of suffering and hardship and my Mother taught me to always look at the bright side. Mike
That is very encouraging and says it all.
I think when anyone is first dx with a disease, whether a person of faith or an atheist, there is a period that you mourn the 'you' that you knew before the dx.
As people of faith the period of mourning should not be interpreted as lack of faith or weakness. News such as we all recieved is devastating. Its like sudden death without actually dying. God expects us to mourn death.
After our grieving we then feel God and his comfort because our eyes are off ourself as we seek HIM. He was always there, but in grieving our heads are sometimes hung so low that we can't look up. I think we have probably all been there.
I see lots of healthy people in church praising God, but now I see the true worshipers are the ones who praise HIM from the sick bed or during their trials and tribulations and can continue to say 'Still I will trust HIM.'
God works through people, believers and non believers even a donkey as we see in the scripture. I have received so much strength not only from HIS word, but from people here from all backrounds whom God has used to speak through and encourage my heart.
Thank you for this thread. I'm sure it will encourage many. It encouraged me.
I think when anyone is first dx with a disease, whether a person of faith or an atheist, there is a period that you mourn the 'you' that you knew before the dx.
As people of faith the period of mourning should not be interpreted as lack of faith or weakness. News such as we all recieved is devastating. Its like sudden death without actually dying. God expects us to mourn death.
After our grieving we then feel God and his comfort because our eyes are off ourself as we seek HIM. He was always there, but in grieving our heads are sometimes hung so low that we can't look up. I think we have probably all been there.
I see lots of healthy people in church praising God, but now I see the true worshipers are the ones who praise HIM from the sick bed or during their trials and tribulations and can continue to say 'Still I will trust HIM.'
God works through people, believers and non believers even a donkey as we see in the scripture. I have received so much strength not only from HIS word, but from people here from all backrounds whom God has used to speak through and encourage my heart.
Thank you for this thread. I'm sure it will encourage many. It encouraged me.
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