achievement

I was watching the academy awards earlier and thinking how wonderful it is to get public recognition for an achievement.  All of us have great moments in life where we are proud of something we have accomplished.

There are famous accomplishments like climbing a mountain, winning a great sports event or winning an Oscar.  Most of us do not achieve anything like that, but do achieve personal greatness.  We plan for something, work hard for it and achieve our goal in the end in spite of great hardships.

Those of us on this board know the difficulty of treatment and only someone who has treated can know the greatness of completing it.  We are challenged daily by our emotions that confuse us and tempt us to quit.  Our spouses and families suffer greatly along with us.  But, we persevere and achieve something great that no one will ever know.

So here is to all of us on this board that will never get public acknowledgement for what we accomplish.  Our reward is a new start on life without a debilitating disease.

[dperry10]

Amen ~  

[comeagain]

Thank you for them worlds.My family is doing a tx mara. Started sep 2006 is gonna end dec 2008 .I started tx sep 06 my ex Zazza started nov 06 doing 72 weeks. I restarted after relaps jan 08 will end dec 08. it has been such a drag for all of us. So when it ends I´m gonna bye some kind of statue for all of us even the dog is gonna get one so our family is nominated for 6" Oscars" LOL. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR LOVE ONES!

[debnevada]

wish we could come up with some sort of statuette and get some funding to send them out!

[Deb_c430]

I so agree with you! Accomplishments do not need to be big, they do not need to make you famous or record holders.

They just are very hard things, that  that you get through. They may mean nothing to anyone but you.  But none the less they are  what defines us as individuals. Courage does not come with out fear.

I am thinking we all have accomplished so much within our selves.  

That was beautifuly said andiamo,  grazi mille!

Deb

[Trish77]

I think we need t-shirts made... with all our acronyms so that only those "in the know" will understand.  Something like ...  Did tx survived sx  Dragon is dead SVR !!  Wonder how many people would come up to you with a shirt like that and quietly say "hey! Me too!"

Course....you'd have to put an "8X" after the tx on yours....... ;->

[Mikkimoe]

Thanks for the very inspirational post.

I needed to be reminded to reward myself. When I use to teach Goal Setting we would list rewards for each mile stone such as get a massage when you have lost 10 lbs. We need insentives. I have set goals for the last 12 years and have always accomplished all of them from vacations all over the world to birthing my own foal. But this year I didn't make any - I was feeling to sorry for myself knowing tx was looming.

Thanks for kicking me in the butt!  I am going to set an SVR goal now - to take a horse vacation. And some mile stones as well...like the massage for RVR.

Here's a feel good video clip for you all  http://www.noglassceilingmovie.com/

Trish - don't forget the KBT on your T-shirts lol

[comeagain]

You all talking about SVR like thats the goal how do you think you are ; God or what?
Being a relapser once, I know you can´t take SVR for granted, and even if either of us my ex and me are gonna get SVR i think we worth achievement just for trying!

[comeagain]

all exept Dep_c430

[Andiamo1]

What in the world are you talking about?

[comeagain]

"our reward is a new start on life without a diblitating disease"
tryed to look that word debilitating up couldn´t find any translating,
to me it sounded like the reward is to get SVR was that a missunderstanding?
Didn´t read it like that at first but when the others started to talk about t shirts with dragon is dead set goals on SVR etc i thought I missed something in your post sorry if missunderstanding

[Andiamo1]

Then what does God have to do with someone refusing to give up and doing whatever they can to achieve SVR?  Yes - the reward we all seek is SVR; why else go through all this?

I don't take SVR for granted - this is my 8th time treating and I will do it again and again until I achieve it.

[Lady Lauri]

Oh how awesome that was! AS I just posted to X about doing my last shot, and the struggle to NOT quit thru it!!!

HERE'S TO ALL PRE, POST AND IN TX-ER'S.
       CHEERS (With my last Peg!!)

LL

[Lady Lauri]

Anyone doing, getting thru tx, wether they reach SVR or (sadly) relapse...deserves a 'reward' for fighting such a HARD fight! I believe that is comeagains point??
(I don't feel anyone meant it as you took it comeagain.)

I do say...that those like Eric, Missy, Susan -too many to name, other's retreating, many extended should get the Gold medals tho   :)

   God Bless, Best wishes to ALL

[comeagain]

We all gonna give up our selfs eventually (hopefully) repent and belive the gospell otherwise well just one of those little animals rushing towards and over the cliff we maybee very pleasent to be with, spirutal declaming poems etc etc but who cares when we are on the broad way leading to destruction.
Thats what God has to do with it
Like Salomo said and he had it all. "I hve seen all the works that are done under the sun; and indeed, all is vanity and grasping for the wind" ecclesiastes 1;14

[mikesimon]

Oh boy. It never fails.

[Andiamo1]

Makes you wonder!

[Andiamo1]

Thank you for defining the reward for everyone, regardless of SVR or relapse.  I meant it that way, but it does sound like I did not meant it for relapsers.

Eric

[Deb_c430]

Ok I am speaking up now, the whole point of this was beautifully said,  That as humans we achieve small and what may be insignificant things that we should commend ourselves for.  Wether it is SVR (Eric 8 times?) WOW I am on three and think geesh, let it end.

We all want SVR,  but wether that happens or not isn't the key. Courage to move forward,  to face something and move forward , no matter what it is.  Cancer Hepc, b whatever.  Maybe it is nothing medical at all.  The reward maybe SVR, or the reward maybe that with no SVR you have earned the ability to face what ever comes  after with grace and the same courage you faced this disease with.  

I do not need a tshirt,  i do need my family and friends to reward me,  not with praise but with their love and the same pride that I have in them.  That I fought the good fight, for me, for them and with each other.

Thanks again Eric for a good post and all to everyone for their thought.

Deb

[jdwithhcv]

opinion NOT FACTS

[Andiamo1]

And thank you for your clear thinking and comments!

[mikesimon]

Yes, it does make me wonder but mostly it just makes me sad. This type of self righteous proselytization too often rears its head in threads like this where I really wonder.............. what's this doing here. Then I re-read the thread and then it strikes me and I think to myself.................What's this doing here?
Mike

[jdwithhcv]

I couldn't agree more.

[Forseegood]

I think Jesus himself, if he came back down here, would be the last to discriminate against people...because they didn't believe in his divinity...he might feel sorry for them, and pray for them, but he'd be the last to curse them or call them names...:) And he'd believe in medical insurance for the poor as well! Something much of the religious right is against, which I could never figure out....(just thought I'd throw that in there, ha ha ha ha) Don't mean to stir up the pot, and I'm sure we are all on here for peace and support....

Andiamo: Yes, very well said...We could call them the Peggo's...think those 72 weekers and more, deserve the Janitor in the Drum size Peggo....but yeah, no matter if you cleared, whatever, this disease is hard on all of us...and I'm glad there are posters who will come and give us all attaboy's!

[mikesimon]

Oh boy again. It never ever fails.

[Trish77]

To: Mikkimoe, Trish all
You all talking about SVR like thats the goal how do you think you are ; God or what?
Being a relapser once, I know you can´t take SVR for granted, and even if either of us my ex and me are gonna get SVR i think we worth achievement just for trying!
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You're damn right that's my goal.  SVR is my goal.  Who are YOU to decide what MY goals should be?  If your goal is to get through every day and that's enough for you, more power to you.  Don't dare to presume for ME what MY goals should be or what motivates or drives ME. Do I take SVR for granted?  No.  Will I have to re-treat?  I don't know.  If I do, I will.  And I'll hang in there until my body is in the ground.  What the F*CK are you thinking saying sh!t like that to someone who is just about to start treatment? I have three kids and in my quieter moments, I'm scared of dying on them.  Does that sound to YOU like I take SVR for granted?  Like I take ANY of this lightly?

The t-shirt comment was humour.  If anyone thinks I REALLY think we should all go around parading in t-shirts once we've hit SVR you need to get a life. The last thing to go before my very last breath will be my sense of humour.  My son has a standing order to ensure there is laughter at my funeral.  On another day, I'd care if someone took offense to that t-shirt comment and I'd apologize for any hurt I'd caused anyone or if anyone felt any disrespect.  After reading all of this and seeing how it's all been blown out of proportion....I don't give a flying f*ck.  

[FullOfHope77]

Eric,

Hear, Hear! I like the T-Shirt idea too... I would pitch on that one.

The goal IS SVR without a doubt!!! I've only done this 3 times and don't feel I could do it again but didn't thnk I could do it this time either... 10 more to go for me and 3 for you and someone is around 6 or 7 more. All  ARM B'ers...

To SVR....

Scotty

[Trish77]

Sigh.  Well, after the steam finished blowing out of the empty space between my ears.. the irony hit me that I had indeed LOST my sense of humour with my posted tirade.  I suppose it's just that I take this all so VERY seriously.. perhaps obsessively so lately...and to have someone suggest that I take SVR for granted when I know what it's been like since I got this diagnosis...well....and then finally the sense of humour returned and there's a bit of irony there as well, I suppose....that someone who's been reading articles and studies and obsessively fretting over getting accurate baseline and other PCR's could be considered to be taking SVR for granted.. well...that's just it's own kind of funny in the end.  If I'd allowed it to get to that before I posted, that is.

I do apologize for my obvious use of the "eff" word, particularly in a public forum and for those that find such things offensive.  Absolutely not necessary and inconsiderate to other members here.. and I apologize.

Andiamo... I apologize for my part in hijacking a thread that started out so beautifully with such lovely tribute to all those who have been through so much to try and beat this thing.  

I apologize to all for losing my cool.  You'd think at 47 years of age I'd have learned to count to ten first....but...sigh...apparently not.

Comeagain....I think your comments were way out of turn, however you thought mine were as well.  And so it goes.  I guess you have a right to your opinion...however, I will tell you that you were WAY offbase.  And I'll leave it at that.

[Andiamo1]

It's good to blow off steam and it's good to be introspective and correct your behavior when it is necessary.  You didn't hijack the thread - you added to it.

Eric

[Deb_c430]

agrees.  

[Mikkimoe]

Gee this is some real interesting reading tonight between this thread and 4cgoods "My meds finally got here" thread I'm starting to think there must be a full moon out there!

My heart monitor started going off about midway...lol.  Thank goodness I came on board late and had all that time to blow off my steam getting to the bottom of the posts.

This does appear to be a pretty stressfull disease...geez I'm actually on antiD's I would of never imagined...but it does seem to be helping with the anxiety. I guess if we can find relief in any way (support, venting, sharing) it's all good right?

[Lady Lauri]

It was a very good thought you posted....most knowing full well you intended it as we all deserve 'awards' for the hell and fight of this disease and the treatment, with the hopeful 'prize' of SVR.  
  I am going with my original thought that those doing extended or more than 1 tx get the Gold award! You'd have 8 awards now!

As you all too well know, many mixed thoughts, misunderstandings with these drugs in us, or even just the hep, ( and understood on some replying to them)
   So in the spirit of your original post.....Thank you, it was a great thought and I accept my award for finishing tx and want to thank all my fans :), family and loved ones! I couldn't have done it without you!

Hope your feeling as well as can be right now.

LL

[Andiamo1]

Congratulations on completing the treatment.  You will be in my thoughts until you post the SVR news!

It is easy to misunderstand someone when the communication medium is written and we have never met the person writing the post.  We have no face or body language to associate with the written words.  

There have been many studies done within the computer industry about this subject.  People tend to be more emotional when communicating from a distance with no body language to modify the message.

You seem like a very understanding person and I greatly appreciate that.

Eric

[Lady Lauri]

You seem like a very understanding person and I greatly appreciate that. ......

  My body language says that too :)

Seriously, that is very true. I just saw a study (where?) that said body language can be 80-90% of how a person is taken, comes across (more to it, said better...I'm tired!)
While sometimes more can be said in writing, the opinion, attitude or intention doesn't always come across as intended. Which is why I use the silly smily type additons!

  I'm posting my 'GOING TO BE SVR' post now, with the strongest, most positive of expressions ! And thank you. Same hopes for you!

LL

[IAmTheWalrus]

Loved your post and comments. I know that SVR is my goal!

[Trish77]

Mikkimoe:  This does appear to be a pretty stressfull disease...geez I'm actually on antiD's I would of never imagined...but it does seem to be helping with the anxiety. I guess if we can find relief in any way (support, venting, sharing) it's all good right?
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Mikki....in no way do I associate my tirade with my HCV.  It was simply poor self-control on my part and a lack of .. reflection before I let fly.  Nothing at all to do with my HCV.  I would rather not have vented.  I can think of a number of ways I could have responded better to that post. It hit me in a very sensitive spot to be sure...but just the same, I simply know it was out of line regardless.  What's done is done, I've posted my amends.  And I'll take my knocks.

[Wassup]

Gollllyyyy ,  My grandma used to say, "Honey, you don't talk fit to eat".  Whatever that meant. I personally totally enjoyed your 'tirade', riba rage, venting, speaking from the hip or whatever ya call it.  I think prefer to call it ' an impassioned rebuttal!  And bravo for that!  Now, tell us how you really feel. JUST KIDDING !!!!( about the last sentence). Wow, now I'm nervous about everything I say, Hope I didn't offend anyone, Actually, I don't care if I offended everyone,  (in defending Trish, who has the guts to speak her mind). Explatives and all. Now, everyone go wash yer ears out with soap.  Many Hus, Ant B    

[Wassup]

I guess you can see that I didn't proof read my above post. Good thing I didn't say F***! HugS, aNT b