organ meats

I miss my chicken livers w brown gravy and onions .I ate them twice a week leading up to my treatment .I havent eaten them since . pre tx I heard it was good .Is it okay during tx ? ,or is there an iron issue ?  

[Tippyclubb]

A one ounce serving of chicken livers ( yuck )  contains 18% iron.  A one ounce serving contains 158 grams of cholesterol.  I doubt anyone would eat one ounce of them.  A three ounce serving would be almost 500 mg of cholesterol ( way more than the daily allowance ) and 54 % iron.  How is your cholesterol, if its high stay away from them and all organs.

Although, I never ate the nasty little things, lol I did cook them for a ex boyfriend.  I boiled them for several hours in chicken broth then made a gravy and served over biscuits.  

[GSDgirl]

Tippy, I agree.......YUCK.  

winner, they don't sound too healthy.  

my dogs love them, raw not cooked

Denise

[franke566]

NO! All organ meats are bad guy unless you like to fresh water cat fish-come on, they are guts-loaded with toxins-the bodys sponge to soak up all the bad stuff before removing it out of our system.  I don't eat cat fish either anymore-pesticides, heavy metals, urban run-off, benzene, just to name a few.  Tuna 4 oz a month because of Mercury.  I have a yard full of chickens.  They eat anything and everything and unless you are buying range chicken or home grown they feed them animal by products-even ground up dead chickens-feathers and all.  And for all you fish lovers if it comes from China don't buy it.  They preserve their fish in Carbon Monoxide before they freeze it to retain color and firmness!  Right now the rage in Texas are these cryo-vac Tilapia fillets
from China-read the label folks!  Preserved in Carbon Monoxide-the stuff that comes out of the exhaust of your car.  

[jdwithhcv]

I'm beginning to fear all food!  I hope at least the brown gravy and onions are safe.

[Marcia2202]

gravy not so good :-)

[jdwithhcv]

True, but tasty!

[GSDgirl]

Question?? What about gravy with the fat skimmed off?  Probably wishful thinking on my part.  I do make gravy and love it but put ice cubes in to harden the fat and take it out.

[jdwithhcv]

Great idea, I'll try that!

[GSDgirl]

Even if it is not healthier it tastes better and doesn't give me heartburn.  I do the ice cubes before I thicken.  

[newleaf09]

Chicken liver pate is the best!  I am disturbed by the discussion because it makes so much sense.  Chicken fed garbage is filtering it through the liver; might not be good and really hard to determine what even a free range chicken eats.

Anybody think we should give up hot dogs and baloney?  God I love that awful stuff!

[nygirl7]

YUCK to all chicken livers, my dad LOVES them and I remember every time it was his birthday my brother would throw up when he saw them as mom was cooking them. Don't blame him. I'm a VERY picky eater - but I do looooove good gravy mmmmm mmmm mmmmmmm!

I don't eat processsed foods like hot dogs and bologna or sausages and stuff gave them up when I was old enough to understand what was really in them.

[Bill1954]

I absolutely adore liver; and especially chicken liver! I make a chicken liver casserole with liver, bacon, green onions and mushrooms that’s unbelievably good; served over noodles or rice, I could eat pounds of it at a time. I ate it pre, during and post treatment… no problems here, and I’m still alive.

Liver on!

[jdwithhcv]

Chicken livers smell so good - its really false advertising.  So unfair, smells like something yummy but then when I taste them there's that iron taste.  I could probably get used to that but the mealy texture just puts me off.

Bill, your casserole sounds delicious if we could just deal with that texture thing.

[newleaf09]

Pate fixes the gross texture.  Process cooked livers with some onion and cream.  Yummy!

[FlGuy]

I might be geographically off a bit here.  But don't you live in the vicinity where the Donner party had their adventure?  If so, the locals have already proven that they'll eat just about anything.

[franke566]

No Fava beans and a glass of Chianti with that liver dish Bill?

Ok Fl guy-there you go making me laugh again as always-thank you!

[Bill1954]

JD--
Boy, the casserole is so good, it overshadows any texture issues. I use a crock-pot, and it is *so* good. I can literally eat the whole thing in one or two sittings; I’m sure it has thousands of calories and zillions of grams of cholesterol, but what the hell! I only have it once or twice a year, thank goodness :o).

FL--
Oh, man! You’re up on the local history! Yeah, the Donner party held their last stand on the summit of what is now Interstate 80 as it passes over the Sierra Nevada’s; about forty miles east of here. They taught me everything I know about organ meat and fine dining :o). Tomorrow’s lecture will be on gizzards ‘n necks soup; stay tuned for more :o)!

[Bill1954]

Hi Franke,

LOL, yeah; the casserole isn’t the same without a splash of Two Buck Chuck to sauté the livers in! Fava beans sound like a really good accompaniment, by the way… I’ll have to try that soon.

[franke566]

Hello Bill-, actually your recipe does sound awfully good-no pun intended.  I'm going to the refrigerator and see what I can find right now!  Franke

[winner727]

well that was nice !  thank you to everyone . bill ,you are too ! funny.    your recipe does sound good .      mabey Ill wait . lol    I did add shitake mushrooms to mine & also enjoy w biscuts .  bon apetit   I love you guys !    bob  

[GreatBird]

I want the recipe. My crock pot is empty. It *needs* liver...

[Bill1954]

Chicken Liver Casserole

• 1/2 cup all-purpose flour for coating
• 1 teaspoon salt
• 1/4 teaspoon pepper
• 1 pound chicken livers, trimmed and cut into bite sized pieces
• 3 slices bacon
• 3 green onions, chopped
• 1 cup chicken stock
• 1 (10.75 ounce) can condensed golden mushroom soup
• 1 (4.5 ounce) can sliced mushrooms, drained
• 1/4 cup dry white wine

• In a medium bowl, mix together the flour, salt and pepper. Place chicken livers into the seasoned flour, and toss to coat.
• Place bacon in a large skillet over medium-high heat. Fry until browned and crisp. Remove to paper towels to drain. Shake off excess flour from the livers, and fry in the bacon grease along with the green onions until lightly browned on the outside. Pour the chicken stock into the skillet, and stir to scrape up any bits of goodness from the bottom.
• Transfer the mixture to a slow cooker, and crumble in the bacon. Stir in the golden mushroom soup, mushrooms and white wine. Cover, and cook on Low for 4 to 6 hours. Thicken the gravy with flour if desired before serving.

[R Glass]

I love me some Fried Chicken Livers. My Grandmother turned me on to Fried Squirrel Heads when I was a kid but my wife refuses to cook them.

[GreatBird]

You are the best! Thanx.

[jdwithhcv]

Wow, Bill, that sounds tasty!

[lapis]

I'm so glad you gave the recipe!  I was getting really curious.  Next time I want to cook up some chicken livers....I'll know what to do!  I actually don't think I've ever cooked them, have cooked calves' and beef liver, and even so I have to get past the idea of what I'm actually eating  : )

[Bill1954]

Hey, thanks! I stole this from my ex wife’s recipe file; she’d make this for me on special occasions, but she didn’t especially like liver herself… although she’d pick at them and eat a few. As I said above, I love this; and have had friends snarf up on this before; even ones that would never even consider eating liver. Really good and hearty for a cold winter’s night. Enjoy!

Anyone else have a good liver or gizzard recipe?

Bill

[Bill1954]

LOL, Lapis, don't pause to think too much... just dig in!

[jdwithhcv]

So I guess you got custody of the crockpot - way to go, Bill!

Cold winter nights???

[GoofyDad]

T'was probably tainted from all those chicken livers anyway.

[franke566]

Anytime my wife cooks me up something special but doesn't eat it herself I let the dog have some first and if it's still alive after an hour or so then I'll eat...

Just kidding dear!

[nygirl7]

I wish I could eat them but I can't.  I have to pretend hamburgers grow out of the ground or I can't even eat them. You guys are so lucky.

[Rockerforlife]

July 02, 2009
The Canadian Press
ST. JOHN'S, N.L. (Jul 2, 2009)
Charitable organizations in Newfoundland and Labrador are upset after the provincial government recently discontinued the donation of roadkill moose meat, saying the decision strips them of a vital source of fundraising.

http://thespec.com/News/Local/article/592952

[jdwithhcv]

Roadkill?  Losing my appetite now!  Was that really necessary?

[Rockerforlife]

Ill eat a moose killed by a truck before ill eat chicken livers full of toxins

[Rockerforlife]

new reports ate saying farm fish spread mad cow dieases now,they are feeding the fish cows brains

[annieCinMD]

I was beginning to wonder about you...glad you are alive and well and as sicko as ever (don't take that as an insult, it's not meant to be)!  Roadkill, mad cow from fish? LOL!

[nygirl7]

Next we'll be getting swinefly from birds!

[nygirl7]

*Should have read getting swineflu from birds except I can't type.*

[GreatBird]

That's a whole nother contagion: typo-itis. They have yet to figure out where it comes from and there is no known cure.

[GreatBird]

OMG I can't belief I messed up your name in that last post. I must have typo-itis too!

[GreatBird]

Actually, this is just getting worse and worse. I think I should take a nap.

[Marcia2202]

I think I'll be going to bed, before I catch the virus...

[Rockerforlife]

While im here i just want to aplogize for a post i made a few days ago,its was a the World Clock...and i posted the site with a very bad title....i wasnt thinkn at the time and didt mean to offend anyone intentionally....i am bad for shocking people sometimes  and ive noticed with me being under some strees lately i sometimes say the wrong things....these TX drugs are a mind game warp...ill post the clock again...i think its valuable


http://www.shambles.net/worldclock/worldclock.swf

[franke566]

Fresh Road Kill (mostly Deer) is perfectly edible and pre-tenderized!  Here in Texas if you kill a deer and survive you are supposed to call The Texas Parks and Wildlife hot line and pull the carcass off the road so other varmints like racoons don't go on the road to eat and get ran over in the process.  The Parks and Wildlife come and get it and take it to the butcher who processes it and many a needy family appreciates it.  We serve the cheaper cuts to the jailbirds at the nearest Pokey.  Now critters like armadillos, possums, skunks, snakes, racoons etc. get shoveled up by the county and that goes to rendering plants in other states to make chicken feed, cat fish farms and dog and cat food.  Thats right Fido and Felix eat road kill.  Now if you are from out of state and hit a horse we don't hang ya anymore...dang it (lessen no bodys a watchin) we just fine the "Aw shucks" out of ya. Yeeee Haaaaa!!!!  Glad your back Rocker

[Rockerforlife]

I havnt left....just have my face and eyes into books....

you said:Fido and Felix eat road kill...well...the truth is...we eat Fido and Felix...they even render down animals from the dog pound afetr they are euthunized.....and feed them to cattle....i cant stand eating meat any more...if its organic..ok..they just recalled 100`s of tons of meat up here again today...e-coli..i am turned from bloody mest

[GoofyDad]

"Actually, this is just getting worse and worse. I think I should take a nap. "

That's the thing about organ meat  - some of it you can't get enough of, and others you wouldn't wanna touch with a 10' pole ....

[jdwithhcv]

"some of it you can't get enough of"

Yes, and then you need a nap....

[franke566]

Oh yes, I remember that about feeding cows dessicated and pellitized road kill or old cows that die in the pastures, feed lots etc..We just had a huge recall of meat in about 9 states-13 people hospitalized 2 will be on dialysis the rest of their lives!  Vegan is best but my Lord, the cost of going organic!  Do you ever watch worlds dirtiest jobs?  The star went with a road kill crew and they take anything and everything and turn it into soap, chicken and livestock feed, fur- stuffing for pillows-oils for lip balms and salves-and yes Fido and Felix are in the mix as you said.  I remember an old movie Solyent Green-maybe thats coming someday.  North Korea is starving-I hope that mad man didn't see the movie-Kim Jung mentallyIl might get ideas-eh?  I have a garden down home and a small one here at my daughters and yesterday a cat was doing it's business in my freshly tilled soil.  Now I have to think of that when I eat a tomato.  I'm freaked out 'cause her neighborhood is running wild with cats looking for some flaky soil to do their business. My daughter said: well it's fertilizer!"  No, its cat-S**t!

[GSDgirl]

Frank, you had cat ****, I had a coyote **** in my fresh tilled garden LOL

WE just bought a half a cow, raised locally and grass fed.  The cow is in 1 lb packages in my freezer and we will get a 4-H pig later this month.  We will be set for winter.  
We have in our garden, corn, lots of tomatoes, peas, gr beans, potatoes, leeks, radishes, broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, spaghetti squash, zukes, cukes, eggplant, brussel sprouts, watermellon, more cukes, pumpkins.

I am gonna have my hands full canning / freezing LOL

Denise

[Rockerforlife]

it only cost me 50 bucks a week to eat all organic

[GSDgirl]

Rocker, you are feeding one.   I am feeding anywhere between 2 and 6, sometimes more.  No way would 50 bucks cover it for just me & ken or even $100.00.  Glad you can do it

[Rockerforlife]

Its very difficult to go organic if you have a family,its pretty simple when all you have is one mouth to feed...like i said before...i live on chocolate whey,VCO oil and a greens powder drink and eggs ...thats basilly it...and i am pretty solid...even while on triple therapy....the day i stop TX....i will turn into the hulk...i can feel it in my bones....providing i stay SVR....if im packing on muscle while on TX...imagine what willl happen when i stop...i will need a cage

[Rockerforlife]

Breakfast:7 am

1.Whey Shake
2.One Egg
3.1/4 Avocado
4.Greens Drink

Dinner;

Same as above

INbetween this i gobble back apples and bananas and i trett myself to tons of green and black tea MADE WITH DISTILLED water....every sunday i pig out on vanolla ice cream and pwer bars...all fro 50 bucks a week


ALL ORGANIC

[franke566]

Now thats the way to do it.  Before having to come to Houston to be near Med center I had a large garden like yours-still do but it's feral right now.  Down home, Coyotes are welcome near the garden. Their urine and other functions ward off possums, armadillos, skunks and such   I use to raise two calves a year and give the butcher one to process the other.  My wife raises goats and makes cheese from part of the milk and sells the rest to a Gourmet Cheese maker and deli in Brownesville and we have a small orange orchard.  I think everyone who has a sunny spot could grow something and start a trade off with their neighbors like people did in the old days.  One neighbor grows tomatos, another squash, another onions or carrots and so on.  It would help everyone and maybe drive the prices at the market down. Went to grocers yesterday-$!.29 for one un-organic bell pepper! The organics were 2 bucks! Like your photos! Nice place and family!

Rocker-I eat two eggs every morning but take the yolk out of one

[Rockerforlife]

I also eat raw almonds everyday,about 100 grams and i make a mean brown rice and veggie soup at 9 pm...BTW    the protien in eggs are the standard what other foods protien foods are based on..its the purest  highest quailty protien you can get,almost as good as my chooc whey from Sweden

[R Glass]

Living here in South Louisiana, it is almost impossible to eat healthy.
We are known worldwide for our food but will never be known for our longevity.
After reading this thread I have been convicted of my eating habits
I went grocery shopping today and made sure all of the meat I barbequed came from farms. The chicken I bought came from Sanderson Farms and the Bratwurst from Hillshire Farms (I need something to keep my energy up while I am kicked back in my Lazyboy recliner, watching the Daytona race tonight).
I do have go through a middleman to make these purchases (Winn-Dixie). Thanks to everyone that has contributed in convincing me to eat healthier, R. Glass

[Rockerforlife]

Roadkill is healthier than commericial meats

[R Glass]

Your probably right but I have this fear. If I eat healthy and exercise, one day while I am out jogging, a bus will hit me. As my broken, buff, body lies on the pavement, the last thing I see before the bright light appears is a McDonalds advertisement on the back of the bus.

[Rockerforlife]

Where im from,the animal destroys the bus and kills all thats in it,after you collide with the moose,it weighs over a 1000 lbs,...have you ever had a moose burger...??,,best meat you will ever eat

[GSDgirl]

Yea the coyotes keep away critters just as long as they don't eat my chickens or climb my kennel fence and mate with my german shepherds LOL.  Thanks for the nice comment on my place.   Back to my chickens.........totally free range, no chemicals and scratch grains for food.  Healthy as can be.  Just can't eat them.

I plan on taking leftover veggies to the soup kitchens and food banks.

[franke566]

Yes, we have chickens down home also-they come home to roost at night and I have a Rhodesian Ridgeback that keeps the Coyotes away during the day but not even she goes out after dark.  Shes spayed so no problem there.  Red tail hawks get a chicken every now and then-those chickens arent as dumb as they look.  We also have a half dozen guineas who think they are chickens LOL and they love to go thru the garden to find stink bugs or anything else edible to them.  

[GSDgirl]

ain't it just great eating your own produce!!!  

Don't the guineas eat the veggies in the garden?  My chickens would if they ever "findz' the garden LOL

[Rockerforlife]

I think having your own garden and growing some foods to eat is priceless...its all the rage now...they have gardens on top of high rise building all over now..thats all ya need ...a few chiks for some eggs and grom some greens....be nice to have a goat too...think ill go back home and start a small farm

[franke566]

Nope.  The only bother the chickens ever cause are with grape tomatos-or is it tomatoes?  I got the guineas from a relative who lives in Ponca, Ok and she said they keep the tic population down...and snakes.

[GSDgirl]

Frank, My chickens wiped out my patio tomatoes the last 2 years.  They also eat fleas, ticks & japanese beetles, plus who knows what other bugs.  I have 5 German Shepherds and so far (fingers crossed) no fleas or ticks.  I have been thinking about adding guineas, right now I have 7 baby chicks that I hatched in an incubator.

Rocker, having a garden is great and so are fresh eggs.  I HAD pygmy goats and they were a pain in the a$$.  Ate my grape vines to the ground 3 years in a row, now 3 years later I have a good crop growing, yum......fresh made jelly.

[franke566]

try hanging some green and red different sized ornaments around your patio -make sure they are secure or the dumb birds will swallow them.  This worked for my Blue Jay attack in my small garden in Houston.  Down home I had a rooster that would glide from his roost and snatch a sandwich or anything else he thought edible out of our hands if we wern't looking Made a barbecue difficult so we stewed him one Cold Sunday-delicious-actually better than a hen.  

[Rockerforlife]

You boiled your rooster alive and ate him because the poor creature was hungry,..i am hiding my pets.

[franke566]

I don't have a pot large enough for a Moose.  By the way.  Thanks for sending us your Geese every late fall-love em!  Beautiful...and tasty!

[jdwithhcv]

Did you serve him with biscuits?

jd

[franke566]

as a matter of fact it was with Bisquick Dumplings

[Rockerforlife]

WE send the geese your way hoping you will eat them for us...we have an over population of the birds up here...and they poo on everything in site...if its not the moose..its the dam geese

[jdwithhcv]

Oh, that sounds tasty!

[GSDgirl]

My roosters are allowed to live as long as they don't attack any humans.  When they do that they are dead but I just can't eat them.  The dogs have a jolly good time tho.

[Rockerforlife]

Feeding the dogs your fine feathered friends???..my. God...what kind of people are you?...

[GSDgirl]

I am the kind of person that refuses to be attacked by a rooster.  They are not my fine feathered friends, they are farm animals that have a very good life here.  One rule, they will never be the boss, they do not live if they attack my 4 year old grand daughter.........plus the dogs have to eat also and they rather like chicken.

[GoofyDad]

We send the geese your way hoping you will eat them for us...

That goose that took out the US Air flight? Government plot. If you can't see that you must be drinking the water.

[franke566]

so your goose is responsible for downing one of our aircraft?  Was he trained?

------------------------------------

Gsd-yeah, roosters aren't the friendly FogHorn LegHorn types you see on cartoons-
Sharp spurs and big  peckers!  At least the Texas ones. LOL

[winner727]

I cant beleive this thread is still alive .    geeez !  

[franke566]

I was thinking the same thing; 80 and counting

[GSDgirl]

this is a fun thread even tho it strayed from your original post (hope you don't mind)

[winner727]

of course ,I dont mind .Its all good . lol   we all need a little humor & messing around .It helps me while Im treating .  others seemed to like it too ! this cant be misery all the time .for us still txing we need diversion  .                                         ps.      I also enjoyed the music thread .pulled alot of utube videos from that !!      thank you  all for taking time to post  w sugestions and humor !   i SAY IT AGAIN     " I LOVE YOU GUYS ! "    bob

[GoofyDad]

Was he trained?


No - he was programmed by feeding him government controlled tap water.