Aa
to all members of hep community
Across the sky i look into
Searching for people so real, so true
Crossing this path has not gone into
This mind of mine that's sometimes blue
To help the people is indeed my way
Though many people will badly say
To give advice of things you dont have
Is kinda weird, so out of love
Rev am not, as Myown will say
Which seems she doesnt want me to stay.
To damn with that guy dikhead
All i wanted is to belong to med
Now i say thanks to all my friends,
Deputy bug, honey, forsee and etc.
Guess im too young to join this stuffs
Making you think my messages a bluff
But really, i do say thank you
To all the advices, well though it was few
I dont have a hep, yes that given
us that why the answer is leavin'?
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"hardcore back"
never been rev...
Searching for people so real, so true
Crossing this path has not gone into
This mind of mine that's sometimes blue
To help the people is indeed my way
Though many people will badly say
To give advice of things you dont have
Is kinda weird, so out of love
Rev am not, as Myown will say
Which seems she doesnt want me to stay.
To damn with that guy dikhead
All i wanted is to belong to med
Now i say thanks to all my friends,
Deputy bug, honey, forsee and etc.
Guess im too young to join this stuffs
Making you think my messages a bluff
But really, i do say thank you
To all the advices, well though it was few
I dont have a hep, yes that given
us that why the answer is leavin'?
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"hardcore back"
never been rev...
wow, your tenacity at staying here, even though you've been saying for awhile now that youre going to leave to go somewhere else....is reminescent of someone, God knows who...not to mention your English getting really good, then kinda bad, then good again...and in your threads all these other nice little new characters come popping up to speak to you...but here, like I said, if you are who you say you are, you've got a clear conscience and it's my bad...this will be the last I'll say on this...
ok, i understand.. i wont be here longer too.. got to find another job.. and oh, by the way, thank you very much.. uve been good to me , you and ladybug.. am looking at the window right now, theres a construction going on.. lol just wanna let u know.. :)
i posted my email address there at a new post but it seems to be gone.. and by the way, am a filipino, hopes its ok..
tnx,
cyrus
i posted my email address there at a new post but it seems to be gone.. and by the way, am a filipino, hopes its ok..
tnx,
cyrus
I know it's bothering you, but I think it best if you go visit the other forums for awhile and let us all recover from the stuff happening around here by itself. Like I said, visit in a few weeks and maybe we can visit you over on the exercise and relationship forum. There is NO consenus that you are REv. You happened to come at the wrong time. Sorry about this, but I think your instinct was right to leave for a bit. I am not making any judgements about you at all. As I said before, just rotten timing.
ok, am not supposed to post anything here right now.. but ur really buggin me out...
look, we have an english class from grade 1 t ograde 6. 1st year high school to 4th year high school.. 1st year college to 4th year college... most of us teach korean how to speak english.. now the only thing i can understand are those two word meaning you were talkin... i have two native tounge.. and i know u wont understand it.. T?IG-A GUID? (is it too hard for you to understand?)
ok, we are located in the equator part of the world. its tropical here.. we only have two weather condition. sunny and rainy.. we dont have cylcones and tsunamis here. we have many2x festivities regarding patron saints which i dont like.. we are mostly catholics and musclims.. get it? and by the way, if you're kinda curious ive got many posts on the other side from here..
look, we have an english class from grade 1 t ograde 6. 1st year high school to 4th year high school.. 1st year college to 4th year college... most of us teach korean how to speak english.. now the only thing i can understand are those two word meaning you were talkin... i have two native tounge.. and i know u wont understand it.. T?IG-A GUID? (is it too hard for you to understand?)
ok, we are located in the equator part of the world. its tropical here.. we only have two weather condition. sunny and rainy.. we dont have cylcones and tsunamis here. we have many2x festivities regarding patron saints which i dont like.. we are mostly catholics and musclims.. get it? and by the way, if you're kinda curious ive got many posts on the other side from here..
we'd still have personal attacks here, and that to me is more problamatic then any individual poster, cause it sets a tone to a forum and they all don't have that tone, if that makes any sense? But this always leads to a discussio
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Whats the most prolamatic to me is when there are the personal attacks and people act as if they are not happenning. Remember when someone posted to me and I said something back and you said 'no she wasn't refering to you.' SoCal also agreed with you, but I would expect that, she HATES me.
Then within a few days the person attacks very openly to the point that those WITHOUT discernment would even recognize and nothing was said. As a matter of fact you carried on a conversation with this person in the thread and completely ignored the vicious attack that was made against me. I then figured the person has a mental problem and I tried to say something encouraging only THEN to see that the same post was stuck in the middle of a thread somewhere else (I know I went over this) and then I figured that's it better disappear for a while before I really open my mouth, cuz I haven't thus far, tho some may think they have heard me.
So ignoring 'real attacks' made against people is the biggest problem here in my book. Little spats will always happen, but vicious attacks are totally uncalled for. So if anyone is worried about 'the tone' they should look at what they allow. No one has to get into a fight with anyone but a word of telling someone,,'hey watch your mouth or hey that wasn't necessary is sometimes all that is needed.
To tell you the truth I am sick of this place.
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Whats the most prolamatic to me is when there are the personal attacks and people act as if they are not happenning. Remember when someone posted to me and I said something back and you said 'no she wasn't refering to you.' SoCal also agreed with you, but I would expect that, she HATES me.
Then within a few days the person attacks very openly to the point that those WITHOUT discernment would even recognize and nothing was said. As a matter of fact you carried on a conversation with this person in the thread and completely ignored the vicious attack that was made against me. I then figured the person has a mental problem and I tried to say something encouraging only THEN to see that the same post was stuck in the middle of a thread somewhere else (I know I went over this) and then I figured that's it better disappear for a while before I really open my mouth, cuz I haven't thus far, tho some may think they have heard me.
So ignoring 'real attacks' made against people is the biggest problem here in my book. Little spats will always happen, but vicious attacks are totally uncalled for. So if anyone is worried about 'the tone' they should look at what they allow. No one has to get into a fight with anyone but a word of telling someone,,'hey watch your mouth or hey that wasn't necessary is sometimes all that is needed.
To tell you the truth I am sick of this place.
Sounds like there has been a great discussion on personal attacks here. I think it is great that instead of walking around this elephant in our living room that we talk about it. I can't be a doormat anymore. I'm not going to slink away while people are being attacked. As others have said, we have a means to do this and I will. Okay if I'm a rat (promise I won't eat you bug!) All the responses have been positive and almost like a familly meeting of sorts. Thanks!
Posted above about court...pretty worn out!
Posted above about court...pretty worn out!
No big secret, I was just tired and heading for the gym that's all :) The issue about the double identities was one issue. The other issue -- the more problamatic thing -- had nothing to do with you. I guess the point I was trying to get across there was that even if poster "X" disappeared today, we'd still have personal attacks here, and that to me is more problamatic then any individual poster, cause it sets a tone to a forum and they all don't have that tone, if that makes any sense? But this always leads to a discussion of how much moderation, etc, is needed here, and I've been there, done that, don't want to do it again, certainly not today :) BTW your Heptimax final results should be in today or tomorrow, have you called your NP?
Be well,
-- Jim
Be well,
-- Jim
No I won't insist on clarification. You would have told me already if you wanted me to know.
Never mind,I'm tired of it all period.
Since this post is now on another page....I wanted to repost it. Wish me luck tomorrow!
sfbaygirl from med help thread by Hardcore
2/14/2007
C56 Myown says; "i'm not going to go into detail, but I went thru an ordeal and when this happens to someone, its hard for me to shut the faucet off. A public apology would have solved it for me. Of course I can't speak for Foresee. But becasue of no remorse from the other party, i don't want to be in the same room and I probably won't be cuz the way things have been handled thus far me and you will get the boot before him because obviously he hasn't gotten it yet."
It sure seems like it, huh? I too have gone through some horrendeous ordeals with abusive people. When it happens you would love to turn it off, forget about it, not remember...but that is wishful thinking on the person effected by this abuse. God knows, I wish I could forget....but I suppose after seeing it for myself, being more hyperviligent about being victimized, I am now super aware of whats going on around me. Too bad I have to do this in a support board of Hep C patients that are only looking for support and information. We also have to be vigilent about being duped, stalked and our personal information posted on multiple levels and threads. It is non stop, can't be ignored, as much as I try....Perhaps a personal problem? That doesn't matter, I shouldn't be subjected to this here, I should feel safe with friends. When a supposed "friend" uses information to put down another from a menopause board, this is really scary and unacceptable. Yeah, people are saying, 'get over it, "let it go", and ignore it. That is impossible when when it has happened over and over here with the same person doing this abuse.
Tomorrow, I go to trial for being attacked at school in a worker's comp case. They question my decison to start tx during this time of PTSD, so do I! My Pysch eval says I am having trust issues as a result, both dr's from both sides say I definately have PTSD due to the attack at school at a rate of over 50% of why my stress disorder is industrial. This is the good news. They say I should NOT return to work as a teacher, I am damaged from the experience in 12/04 and 2/01 and hopefully I will settle before they put me on the stand and tear my life apart. Which of course they will, since as a stress claim they have a right to question my whole life experience. Ought to be interesting! So Yep, I am hyperviligent and distrustful of others. This I haven't felt as deeply as I do now on this forum. How is it that someone who was so offensive, that stalked and persued someone to the point of posting personal info from a year ago be allowed back on this forum? Don't they have rules? I keep hearing about the rules, but where are they when members are being stalked and verbally assaulted? I would like to think MH would deal with these abuses, but if this poster is allowed to return and continue posting the same slander and abuse, how are we to feel safe? To me, I am very uncomfortable now and feel extremely scared...yes, I have this propensity anyway, but that doesn't mean I should have to deal with it in a place I have felt safe in for over a year now.
Okay, I guess I ranted long enough and may get booted for saying this. But hey I don't feel too safe here anyway.
sfbaygirl from med help thread by Hardcore
2/14/2007
C56 Myown says; "i'm not going to go into detail, but I went thru an ordeal and when this happens to someone, its hard for me to shut the faucet off. A public apology would have solved it for me. Of course I can't speak for Foresee. But becasue of no remorse from the other party, i don't want to be in the same room and I probably won't be cuz the way things have been handled thus far me and you will get the boot before him because obviously he hasn't gotten it yet."
It sure seems like it, huh? I too have gone through some horrendeous ordeals with abusive people. When it happens you would love to turn it off, forget about it, not remember...but that is wishful thinking on the person effected by this abuse. God knows, I wish I could forget....but I suppose after seeing it for myself, being more hyperviligent about being victimized, I am now super aware of whats going on around me. Too bad I have to do this in a support board of Hep C patients that are only looking for support and information. We also have to be vigilent about being duped, stalked and our personal information posted on multiple levels and threads. It is non stop, can't be ignored, as much as I try....Perhaps a personal problem? That doesn't matter, I shouldn't be subjected to this here, I should feel safe with friends. When a supposed "friend" uses information to put down another from a menopause board, this is really scary and unacceptable. Yeah, people are saying, 'get over it, "let it go", and ignore it. That is impossible when when it has happened over and over here with the same person doing this abuse.
Tomorrow, I go to trial for being attacked at school in a worker's comp case. They question my decison to start tx during this time of PTSD, so do I! My Pysch eval says I am having trust issues as a result, both dr's from both sides say I definately have PTSD due to the attack at school at a rate of over 50% of why my stress disorder is industrial. This is the good news. They say I should NOT return to work as a teacher, I am damaged from the experience in 12/04 and 2/01 and hopefully I will settle before they put me on the stand and tear my life apart. Which of course they will, since as a stress claim they have a right to question my whole life experience. Ought to be interesting! So Yep, I am hyperviligent and distrustful of others. This I haven't felt as deeply as I do now on this forum. How is it that someone who was so offensive, that stalked and persued someone to the point of posting personal info from a year ago be allowed back on this forum? Don't they have rules? I keep hearing about the rules, but where are they when members are being stalked and verbally assaulted? I would like to think MH would deal with these abuses, but if this poster is allowed to return and continue posting the same slander and abuse, how are we to feel safe? To me, I am very uncomfortable now and feel extremely scared...yes, I have this propensity anyway, but that doesn't mean I should have to deal with it in a place I have felt safe in for over a year now.
Okay, I guess I ranted long enough and may get booted for saying this. But hey I don't feel too safe here anyway.
I have zero tolerance for this and I did exactly what Cindy told us to do. I'm sure once she's aware of this she will put an end to it. I am just going to follow the rules and hope for an end to this. Best of luck tomorrow, didn't realize it was your day in court! I'll be thinking of you and praying for you to make it thru the day!
Hugs and happy Valentines day!!!
Janice
Hugs and happy Valentines day!!!
Janice
so so sorry you have to go through this, and what youre going to have to go through, no need to apologize for being uncomfortable here, I mean, why would we? Maybe there are members here who feel perfectly comfortable, maybe they've been able to stay out of this person(s) sight-line, and they can get what they need from here, I really hope that's the case for most people here, honestly, cause God knows we all need help...
But I've seen more then a few people here run off by this member(s) through constant slagging and harrassment, sometimes it's really bad, other times it's just a few posts with plenty of "code" for people in the know... from passive-aggressive to downright aggressive and back again...and of course, we can't report the "code" posts cause there isn't too much in them, on the surface anyway....unless you know what's behind it, and now plenty of people know - but what can we do about it?...or different personas for this person(s) own amusement...I'll fool those idiots!!! Why would this new persona constantly ask me questions or refer to me if they don't know diddly about this board and they are completely new here?...
these new personas are constantly mentioning the people this "member" had problems with here...If they were legit, like we've all seen over and over, they'd just stick to finding out about hep, and not keep on asking about people here, one would think...
It's downright creepy, and I'm not always here to keep tabs on this stuff to report it, who'd want to? Who wants to keep on devoting their energies to this creepy stuff? I sure don't...I'd like to just ask questions and give support, joke around, this is the last thing I want to deal with...Sometimes I do feel like I'm being run-off by attrition, cause after all, I could go elsewhere (hope to God I don't get followed, I'm not kidding, I know I'm changing my handle) but you don't think they'd find someone else here to torture with this stupid, non-productive stuff? I know from experience that it's easy to just think, oh man, get over it, especially when it's not you they are creeping out.. because that's what they are all about, revenge and getting at you...but I like a lot of people here and I think there is great infomation here...this is really creepy and a shame...
But I've seen more then a few people here run off by this member(s) through constant slagging and harrassment, sometimes it's really bad, other times it's just a few posts with plenty of "code" for people in the know... from passive-aggressive to downright aggressive and back again...and of course, we can't report the "code" posts cause there isn't too much in them, on the surface anyway....unless you know what's behind it, and now plenty of people know - but what can we do about it?...or different personas for this person(s) own amusement...I'll fool those idiots!!! Why would this new persona constantly ask me questions or refer to me if they don't know diddly about this board and they are completely new here?...
these new personas are constantly mentioning the people this "member" had problems with here...If they were legit, like we've all seen over and over, they'd just stick to finding out about hep, and not keep on asking about people here, one would think...
It's downright creepy, and I'm not always here to keep tabs on this stuff to report it, who'd want to? Who wants to keep on devoting their energies to this creepy stuff? I sure don't...I'd like to just ask questions and give support, joke around, this is the last thing I want to deal with...Sometimes I do feel like I'm being run-off by attrition, cause after all, I could go elsewhere (hope to God I don't get followed, I'm not kidding, I know I'm changing my handle) but you don't think they'd find someone else here to torture with this stupid, non-productive stuff? I know from experience that it's easy to just think, oh man, get over it, especially when it's not you they are creeping out.. because that's what they are all about, revenge and getting at you...but I like a lot of people here and I think there is great infomation here...this is really creepy and a shame...
I responded below to your excellent post regarding people who want attention. I think I had that history teacher!
When hardcoreback first came on to this forum, it was the night before the conflict post that was removed. You had posted a joke that day, Sfbaygirl and I were the only ones able to post that night and we were talking to each other like it was a chat forum. Hardcoreback got on talked about what a friendly forum this was, liked your joke and never said anything rude or derogatory to anyone. He admitted upfront he didn't have hep c and was just looking at the health forums. I think he just jumped in, didn't know what he was jumping into. Enough about Hardcoreback, I know I won't change any one's mind about who he is and I might be wrong.
Just wanted to say HeY what are you doing up so late? It's 4:30 am here, can't sleep. Still upset about the abuse going on here.
Bug
When hardcoreback first came on to this forum, it was the night before the conflict post that was removed. You had posted a joke that day, Sfbaygirl and I were the only ones able to post that night and we were talking to each other like it was a chat forum. Hardcoreback got on talked about what a friendly forum this was, liked your joke and never said anything rude or derogatory to anyone. He admitted upfront he didn't have hep c and was just looking at the health forums. I think he just jumped in, didn't know what he was jumping into. Enough about Hardcoreback, I know I won't change any one's mind about who he is and I might be wrong.
Just wanted to say HeY what are you doing up so late? It's 4:30 am here, can't sleep. Still upset about the abuse going on here.
Bug
I'm going to say something because in reality - most Hep C forums are this way. MH is pretty bad on letting idiots post (hardcoreback that was not to you - but it was to anyone who has consistently been observed to be posting horsesh** and abusive notes). Anyone who engages that person - you better watch out. And if anyone thinks they are safe on any forum, you better think again. If you are fed up with drama or someone stalking you, stop migrating towards thoses posts that obviously are "trouble". I was stalked by someone on a Hep C forum and finally had the SOB arrested 3 states away for communicating threats. This sh** can get serious. You have enough problems with Hep C. When you start asking for emails, and when you start communicating with someone who sounds "nice", you better watch out is all I can say about it. Be smarter than the abuser / the stalker / the one who threatens. Save any emails. And then - take it all to the cops. Have the SOB arrested OK? Keep it all off the forum. They'll either leave you alone or go to jail.
Glad to see in your poem that your English has greatly improved in these few short weeks you were with us. It is nothing less than AMAZING! I'm sure it is very difficult to communicate to people in a language other than your native tongue. I give you much credit. I really CAN'T BELIEVE how someone could have improved so drastically! That's great!
Hi Elaine! Good to see you! Happy Valentines Everyone! Is everyone doing something fun and romantic today?
Wow thats some story! Glad it worked out for you. That must have been very stressful. Do they alert you when he gets released if he hasn't already been released?
Bless Your Heart already going through so much and now having to stand in court on tx , I pray that everything runs smooth for you ,and that your stress levels will go down and everything will fall in its place so that you can soothe your soul......
Thanks for the kind words about court. I am a bit scared about what they will grill me on, but hopefully I will be well enough to let them know how I feel.
Got a note from Cindy at MH and she is trying to take care of the multiple Rev problems and personas we are having here. With the new software problems, she is having trouble dealing with it as she wants to. So hope we have resolution to this!
Got a note from Cindy at MH and she is trying to take care of the multiple Rev problems and personas we are having here. With the new software problems, she is having trouble dealing with it as she wants to. So hope we have resolution to this!
Hope and pray all goes well tomorrow and thanks for bringing the problem to the attention of MH.
UGggh, it's today, leaving in a few minutes! MH is aware and it may take more time than we like, but Cindy seems sympathetic and working on it.
Good luck at the trial today! This place should be a safe haven, not just from some of the blatant verbal attacks lately, but from all personal attacks, some of which are far subtler by long standing members who should know better, but in total potentially are more problamatic. More problamatic in that they set a tone for a forum that both makes people uncomfortable as well as drives people away, leaving only those with the thicker skins. And since when is having a thick skin a prerequisite for belonging to a support group for treatment of a chronic illness.
I don't speak up much on this anymore because one year post treatment I am in the let's say, twilight of my stay here -- but when I was treating, I often spoke out on the personal attack issue, only to be labled the "sheriff" and such, with the result of nothing getting resolved.
What I see now is more of a zero tolerance policy from newer members that gives some hope that the tone of this place will be more appropriately informative, caring and nurturing. Hopefully, MH will do it's part as SF stated, because the members can only do so much.
-- Jim
I don't speak up much on this anymore because one year post treatment I am in the let's say, twilight of my stay here -- but when I was treating, I often spoke out on the personal attack issue, only to be labled the "sheriff" and such, with the result of nothing getting resolved.
What I see now is more of a zero tolerance policy from newer members that gives some hope that the tone of this place will be more appropriately informative, caring and nurturing. Hopefully, MH will do it's part as SF stated, because the members can only do so much.
-- Jim
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