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4 year old risk of oral herpes

Now i read a lot about how adults are only likely to be transmitted the virus through romantic kissing...and not sharing food or drinks which may contain saliva.   But i couldn't find anything about it concerning small children (4 years)

My friend has a cold sore on her lip right now and she offered him a piece of pizza while she was watching him, come to find out she had picked off 3/4 of the toppings with her fingers (piece in her mouth, then touched the pizza...repeating dropping saliva off with her fingers).    And my son had eaten that....   Then when i was down in the apt. she had touched it (The sore) like 4 times with a rubbing motion and then ended up within 5 minutes scraping off some toppings on another piece that my son didn't want to eat with that same finger! And he ate that too!

He is just too young to get herpes and understand that it is not something you touch or play with for fear of transmission to other delicate body parts.  

Is it likely that now my son has been introduced to the virus and will become infected because I failed as a mother to say STOP!??    
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1174003 tn?1308160819
From direct skin to skin contact yes he is more at risk.  Saliva is more of a hositile enviroment for germs.  The virus doesn't live long on our hands anyway our hands just aren't the best place for the virus to live on and so forth.

You shouldn't worry about it at this point.  Just keep an eye on him and if he gets anything be seen like you would.  But the low risk means just that while their maybe some risk but not a lot.  
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We were eating with friends and one of them had a fever blister.  He was licking his fingers and at one point touched one of my daughters' hands when passing plates between them.  It had probably been more than 5 minutes since he'd had his fingers in his mouth but I am not sure about that, could have been less or more time.  Is there any way to transmit herpes whitlow in this fashion?
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101028 tn?1419603004
no need to clean off the kiss.

if the cold sore was crusted it was not a risk anyways.

grace
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well i guess i am just a terrible mother and person Mistake guy, that is why i did not clean the area off.  

his dad thought i was making too big of a deal out of it and worrying for nothing so he wouldn't give me the time to clean it off, i had to wait til we got home and then i just used a babywipe to wash each area of his face and had him wash his hands.  not that you really needed to know that.    

And of course i am on the lookout for symptoms.  well, any obvious one's, i am not going to stare at his face with a magnifying glass.  I was just wondering about the risk of transmission and if the virus would have stayed alive for long after the kiss to know about him spreading it around.  thats all.  geez thread over.
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Well if your friend did have a cold sore in fact the kiss could pose some risk.  Likely the skin around the area you refer to is not as easy to transmit that way.  If it was a quick kiss I doubt you have much to worry about.

I would be explaining to your friends that kissing your child is fine but leave it to areas of the cheek.  If they are having a coldsore regardless of the stage or have the onset of one coming to NOT kiss your child.  No reason your friends should be kissing your child or anyone for that matter unless their partner is aware of the risk and/or already has HSV.  

If you saw the kiss why not clean the area off? Its doubtful that he transmitted it to his eyes. Be on the look out for symptoms and if he gets them have him be seen for a lesion culture.  
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i hope this is the right post that i am to pose this question. since it pertains to my 4 year old i wrote about up in the top questions.

Long story short, my son and his dad and i went shopping today.   dad put kid in cart while i was walking in with a friend of mine.  

As i went to grab another cart , i turned around just in time to see her kiss my son on his eyebrow/ temple area more so... and then i realized, "oh crap..... not again!!" She had a full blown cold sore on her lip...   i didn't wanna stare look too closely but it appeared in the crusted stage, not like it matters though as it still sheds the virus during this stage.  

apparently all my friends have it lol.

Do you think that since i didn't wipe off the area it could have traveled into his eye?.... especially since he rubbed and touched his face all over while we were in town? could he have spread it to his eyes...?    

i didn't even realize it when she kissed my face because i don't care about me, i already have it... so i don't even pay attention. But when she doess kiss its a bit slobbery. lol  the day he does catch it, hopefully its only on the mouth, and then i will deal with it, but i am just so worried about ocular herpes for him.  That would be the worst thing.  
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101028 tn?1419603004
unless he gets an obvious cold sore, really nothing you can do. We don't have accurate blood tests for children that age and his having hsv1 orally wouldn't be an issue until he is older and starting to become sexually active. was this a risk for him? yes it was because of his age but overall, it's still a low risk. statistically, 1 out of every 3 kids his age has hsv1 orally and 1 out of every2-3 adults he's around has it too. it's very common. He's been exposed to it many times already most likely.

have you and your partner ever been tested for herpes to know your own statuses?

you also might want to just have a chat with your friend too.  even when you aren't feeling ill, you can potentially have germs you can easily transmit to small children. having her hands in and out of her mouth and on his food is a far more likely risk for cold, flu and gi virus germs!  she shouldn't be doing it when she does have an obvious cold sore either since small children are more at risk for contracting hsv1 from her.   http://www.ashastd.org/herpes/herpes_learn_oralherpes.cfm  has terrific info and is a good link to send to her.
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1174003 tn?1308160819
Herpes will typically show up within 2-20 days if anything is there.  
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Thanks.  

One final.  

What is the incubation period for oral to show up?

  So i know that, "Ok after this amount of days if nothing has shown up, odds are nothing will."
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Ok, i'm a small bit confused.

"Low risk at this age"... but then it says "he is more vulnerable to being infected at his age"...

So does that mean he could have just been infected from these incidences? or is it something that is a low risk and i really shouldn't worry about it?
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101028 tn?1419603004
this is low risk at this age.  you are more vulnerable to being infected as a small child of his age compared to as an adult.

grace
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