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Chiropractic Adjustments brought on OB???
Quick overview. I am a 41 yr. old female. Got HSV-2 when i was in my early 20's. Have had about 6 outbreaks since initial diagnosis. Been through heavy stress situations, never had an outbreak. Recently, I have been going to a Chiropractor for back and neck problems. Suddenly, an OB occurs. I do not believe this OB is was caused by stressors, as I don't really have anything going on other than back/neck problems. In my recent research, I have found that when dormant, the virus lives at the base of your spine. I am wondering if getting the chiro adjustments might have woken the virus up. Has anyone else had a similar situation? Or know of any research on this? I don't want to take meds for the rest of my life to keep this at bay, since I have had very few OB's over the years. The side affects of it, and the cost are prohibitive to me. Any thoughts??
In regard to long term suppresive therapy, i did that on Acyclovir at 400 mg a day and it worked for one whole year. Then my hair started thinning out so
i researched that and found that some people do have that issue so i quite the suppressive therapy. I have a problem with that medication and with Valtrex in that
after a few days my stomach hurts badly (former h.pylori ulcers) and also my liver hurts.
i researched that and found that some people do have that issue so i quite the suppressive therapy. I have a problem with that medication and with Valtrex in that
after a few days my stomach hurts badly (former h.pylori ulcers) and also my liver hurts.
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Yeah, that's a common side effect from acyclovir, unfortunately. Can you try it for maybe 6 months and see if things get under control?
Before you do, if you do, I'd love for you to get the outbreaks on your spine cultured the next time you get them.
The vaginal sensations could be a back issue. It could also be from herpes, or something even like bacterial vaginosis.
A visual diagnosis of herpes is wrong quite often. I don't know what you had on your arms, but it wasn't herpes. Were the sores where the plunger was? Perhaps it was just a reaction to that, even though you had clothes on.
How was your sciatica diagnosed? Was any of this done? https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/sciatica/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20377441
Before you do, if you do, I'd love for you to get the outbreaks on your spine cultured the next time you get them.
The vaginal sensations could be a back issue. It could also be from herpes, or something even like bacterial vaginosis.
A visual diagnosis of herpes is wrong quite often. I don't know what you had on your arms, but it wasn't herpes. Were the sores where the plunger was? Perhaps it was just a reaction to that, even though you had clothes on.
How was your sciatica diagnosed? Was any of this done? https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/sciatica/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20377441
Absolutely! I have lived with herpes that outbreaks on my buttocks for over 30 years. I was having sciatica and felt that a chiro adjustment just might help. That evening
i had the worst outbreak of my life and had to go to urgent care for treatment. The herpes, which is usually confined to my buttocks area, spread down to my left outer leg and upper arm. It also went down my right leg. The doctor used a plunger method in that area that apparently activated the virus.
i had the worst outbreak of my life and had to go to urgent care for treatment. The herpes, which is usually confined to my buttocks area, spread down to my left outer leg and upper arm. It also went down my right leg. The doctor used a plunger method in that area that apparently activated the virus.
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Did you have actual blisters on your arm? That's not actually possible. Herpes infects nerve groups, and genital herpes infects the sacral ganglia, which only affects the waist down. It can't travel to your arm, no matter the trigger.
If you mean you had nerve pain, I'd wonder if it was the result of the treatment.
Did they test the sores that you had? I'd wonder if at least some of it was staph, or worse, MRSA, from an unsterilized plunger. Whatever it is, it sounds painful, and the plunger method looks awful. :(
For everyone else, if you need the chiropractor, and are afraid, you can try suppressive therapy 5 days prior. That should help prevent any outbreaks.
If you mean you had nerve pain, I'd wonder if it was the result of the treatment.
Did they test the sores that you had? I'd wonder if at least some of it was staph, or worse, MRSA, from an unsterilized plunger. Whatever it is, it sounds painful, and the plunger method looks awful. :(
For everyone else, if you need the chiropractor, and are afraid, you can try suppressive therapy 5 days prior. That should help prevent any outbreaks.
Well, I took photos with my cell of the lesions. They were red and swollen in the very middle. They itched like crazy. I had 3 on lt side and ne on rt side.
The urgent care Dr. said they were herpes? My herpes does not blister or ooze, it is simply a red raised spot and itches and is painful. I had clothes on during
the adjustment. They sprayed the table before i laid down and there was a new paper covering put on the table. This is interesting. If i cannot go to the arm then
what did I have? No tests were done by Dr. he just looked at them. I have lately been having pretty bad breakouts. They breakouts are in the last two inches of my spine.
Now i am getting feelings of pressure in the vagina and also feel a sharp cutting sensation at times in the vagina. Can herpes cause this too? or is it a low back vertebral issue?
The urgent care Dr. said they were herpes? My herpes does not blister or ooze, it is simply a red raised spot and itches and is painful. I had clothes on during
the adjustment. They sprayed the table before i laid down and there was a new paper covering put on the table. This is interesting. If i cannot go to the arm then
what did I have? No tests were done by Dr. he just looked at them. I have lately been having pretty bad breakouts. They breakouts are in the last two inches of my spine.
Now i am getting feelings of pressure in the vagina and also feel a sharp cutting sensation at times in the vagina. Can herpes cause this too? or is it a low back vertebral issue?
I believe they do cause or CAN trigger outbreaks. Given that the virus lives in the central nervous system, any changes to it could trigger one (which is why stress and illness trigger outbreaks, too).
It's completely plausible. For me, I got an outbreak after seeing the chiro a few times and decided the outbreak wasn't worth the adjustment, because I prefer not to have to take meds.
It's completely plausible. For me, I got an outbreak after seeing the chiro a few times and decided the outbreak wasn't worth the adjustment, because I prefer not to have to take meds.
I recently started having quite intense chiropractic treatment for chronic back and neck pain. A few weeks in, I have suddenly come out in the mother of all herpes outbreaks, one from the neck ganglion (comes out on my chin), a genital outbreak from the base of the spine including intense pain in my legs and feet, and a side-order of neuralgia on the left side of my face, to boot!
I rarely have OB's, especially severe full-body ones such as this, and am convinced that this has been brought on by the chiropractic treatment.
For what it's worth, my neck and back are much better, OB's aside!
I rarely have OB's, especially severe full-body ones such as this, and am convinced that this has been brought on by the chiropractic treatment.
For what it's worth, my neck and back are much better, OB's aside!
I have HSV1 (oral) and go to the chiropractor every other week. Recently, I have started to get an outbreak the day after the adjustment. This had happened these past 4 appointments.... My life has actually been less stressful lately.
Hey I am having the same symptoms too! I got my back adjusted twice and all of a sudden my HSV2 spreads to my butt cheek?!?!? Never has this happened prior to getting my back adjusted. I have had this mess for 5 years now and this is the first time it has spread. I truly believe by him altering my spine it affected the nerves and awoke the virus. Scientists definitely should do some testing on this.
Medical scientists are still quite baffled about what really triggers HSV outbreaks. Other than the lowering of the immune system (which can happen with stress or other infections or medications) they don't really know why some people get an outbreak and others don't, or why HSV can be dormant for years and suddenly flare up. They can only speculate.
As such, we are certainly entitled to speculate that something has triggered an outbreak, whether it is chiroprachtic treatment or peanut butter. Anecdotal accounts can be useful for people, but they aren't scientifically valid until they're collated in a proper study.
So I don't see the problem with trying to figure out what triggers your own outbreaks. Just keep in mind that there could very easily be another cause and the chiropractic treatment is just a coincidence. Unless you get an outbreak most of the time after chiropractic care, you may never know.
As such, we are certainly entitled to speculate that something has triggered an outbreak, whether it is chiroprachtic treatment or peanut butter. Anecdotal accounts can be useful for people, but they aren't scientifically valid until they're collated in a proper study.
So I don't see the problem with trying to figure out what triggers your own outbreaks. Just keep in mind that there could very easily be another cause and the chiropractic treatment is just a coincidence. Unless you get an outbreak most of the time after chiropractic care, you may never know.
I wasn't implying anything. I'm in the dark here just like the rest. Was just stating my own experience, that's all. Didn't mean any harm at all.
Poojane, it's a free country and a pretty much wide open forum, as long as there are no abusive comments. Still, it does nobody any good for you to post a very atypical experience that you don't even know is accurate. As we discussed in your own thread, there are good reasons to suspect that your recent increase in outbreak frequency may not be your previous HSV1 infection. Posting things like this just misleads people about what to expect from genital HSV1.
In any case, it isn't plausible that chiropractic manipulation can trigger HSV outbreaks.
In any case, it isn't plausible that chiropractic manipulation can trigger HSV outbreaks.
I have hsv1 genital. I went 8 years with very little outbreaks. I'm wondering same thing about the chiro. I've started going for lower back and I've had two outbreaks since I've started going. In the last two months.
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I am so glad to read this board. I have HSV 2 and in the past had only have an occasional symptoms and I could go for long periods without medicine. I have been going to a chiropractor for sometime and the herpes episodes are frequent. I just started wondering if the adjustments on my back could be causing this problem. I decided to do a search on it and Bingo! I see others are experiencing the same issue. I am not go to have adjustments anymore!
I'm 28 years old, and about a year ago I was in an abusive relationship. Forced to have unprotected sex. After getting away from the man I had myself tested on two separate occassions just to make sure I had not contracted anything. Everything came back negative.
3 weeks ago I started Chiro treatments for a car accident I had many years ago. I am in a new healthy relationship, and my partner has never experience herpes symptoms before.
Low and behold I developed horrible painful sores symptoms of type 2. The test results have not come back, but I feel like I know the outcome.
I do have terrible allergies but the hives have never shown up down there.
The only change in my life is the chiro treatments. I have been under extreme stress with my mother becoming severely ill in the last year. No outbreaks have surfaced.
As far as alternative treatments. I know essential oils have successful results. The main oil is very expensive $115 dollars whole sale for Melissa.It can be applied undiluted IF you are certain the company you get the oil from is highly reputable in their testing for foreign contaminants. The best I've found so far is DoTerra. Other oils are Ravensara, Patchouly, and Melaluca. I hope this helps. I know for a fact the side effects of Acyclovior is that it causes the virus to evolve and eventually develop resistance to the medication which in turn will cause more out breaks.
Good Luck Everyone! Wish me luck that I get negative results!
3 weeks ago I started Chiro treatments for a car accident I had many years ago. I am in a new healthy relationship, and my partner has never experience herpes symptoms before.
Low and behold I developed horrible painful sores symptoms of type 2. The test results have not come back, but I feel like I know the outcome.
I do have terrible allergies but the hives have never shown up down there.
The only change in my life is the chiro treatments. I have been under extreme stress with my mother becoming severely ill in the last year. No outbreaks have surfaced.
As far as alternative treatments. I know essential oils have successful results. The main oil is very expensive $115 dollars whole sale for Melissa.It can be applied undiluted IF you are certain the company you get the oil from is highly reputable in their testing for foreign contaminants. The best I've found so far is DoTerra. Other oils are Ravensara, Patchouly, and Melaluca. I hope this helps. I know for a fact the side effects of Acyclovior is that it causes the virus to evolve and eventually develop resistance to the medication which in turn will cause more out breaks.
Good Luck Everyone! Wish me luck that I get negative results!
Hello. You are asking exactly the question I was wondering! I am 42 and have only just found out that I have HSV2 after being in a monogamous relationship for 10 years and no knowledge that either of us had HSV. I am on holiday and there is no stress - on the contrary - I went for a series of chiro visits to deal with various lower back, neck and thoracic problems and whammo, I have what I would call my first ob. When the Dr. said it hides in the spinal ganglia down where I have almost no disc left, I now too wonder whether not that HSV causes the lower back disc problems but that the adjustments "woke up" the virus.
the nausea, headache and abdominal pain usually goes away within a week or two of suppressive therapy, if you experience it at all. joint pain , dizziness and hair loss are very rare side effects, not many folks experience them at all.
are you in the US? you can get acyclovir far cheaper than the prices you were told. shop around!!!
grace
are you in the US? you can get acyclovir far cheaper than the prices you were told. shop around!!!
grace
I am concerned about nausea, headaches, stomache pain, abdominal pain, joint pain, dizziness and hair loss. While some people may not find those symptoms bothersome, for me, they are very bothersome. I already have joint problems with very bad knees, and do not need to add to that daily pain by taking something (else) that may actually cause it to worsen. The cost of valtrex WITH my insurance coverage was $50.00. That's a LOT of money on a monthly basis. The acyclovir was also $50.00 for a 5 day treatment. I understand the viral shedding probably has been going on for some time, but for the past 18 years....it's been very nice to NOT have to worry about this crap. Possibly i was just due for an outbreak - however - they usually happen for a reason. I can't find any reason in my life why this should have occurred, other than I was having my spine manipulated. It just so happens that the first OB I am talking about occurred after I started seeing the Chiro, and that I have had 3 OB in the past 2 months. HIGHLY unusual for me. I knwo that I have been very 'blessed' to not have many of them over the years, and I want to keep it that way.
what side effects are you concerned of? there are no long term side effects to the herpes antivirals. the 3 main side effects are headache, abdominal pain and nausea.
The number of ob's you've had is irrelevant as far as the amount of viral shedding that's been going on. you still shed the virus periodically even if you aren't noticing obvious recurrences.
could your adjustments have triggered an ob? more likely that you were just "due" for one anyways.
as for the cost of medications, acyclovir is $4 to treat each ob as it occurs even if you don't have insurance and get it filled at walmart and like places. daily suppressive therapy with acyclovir is under $20 even if you don't have insurance most places in the US also.
grace
The number of ob's you've had is irrelevant as far as the amount of viral shedding that's been going on. you still shed the virus periodically even if you aren't noticing obvious recurrences.
could your adjustments have triggered an ob? more likely that you were just "due" for one anyways.
as for the cost of medications, acyclovir is $4 to treat each ob as it occurs even if you don't have insurance and get it filled at walmart and like places. daily suppressive therapy with acyclovir is under $20 even if you don't have insurance most places in the US also.
grace
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