Could This Be Herpes

[Sonic2014]

Hi I have have been diagnosed with HSV2 about 3 years ago. I don't have any major outbreaks in my vaginal area outside of tingling and itching about every 3-5 months.  My guy friend is aware of my status and we have not had sexual intercourse. However, I have been for year stimulated vaginally by him fingering me, which he wears latex gloves. I want him to be I guess protected when he does this. I have provided him oral sex, which was heavy for about 8 months last years, but has subsided to rarely and we might have done the fingering and oral sex about 5-10 times total this year.

About 3 weeks ago, I provided him oral sex. About 1 week later he informed me that one day he experienced penile tingling. I've never had a lip sore/blisters of any sort, but became very alarmed and began asking questions. He informed me that there is no foul odor, discharge, sores/blisters/bums, itching or burning, just a tingling sensation in the penile area. He says he has been experiencing this for 3 weeks off and on, but it doesn't hurt. He says it only happens after he showers in the morning, but the sensation disappears.

He told me he changed his soap about month ago, but I am not educated on what allergic reactions from the wrong soap can cause to a males body.  I also don't know the likelihood of me having HSV1 bc my result showed that the strand was HSV2.  He was tested about a year ago for the HSV, but the results were negative for both 1 and 2, but I'm very alarmed bc of the penile tingling. I thought most signs of a pending outbreak could/would begin with the shedding (tingling, burning itching etc), followed by the outbreak itself with sores, blister, etc.  Can you educate me on what he may be experiencing? Thanks.

[Sonic2014]

Never got vaginal blisters/lesions swabbed. Hadn't had a sore since 2009. I get the tingling and itchy sensation. It feels more like a yeast infection. I had the HSV 2 test done twice and both were positive. Numbers for this specific test were higher than 1.1, but lower than 5, but that doesn't make a difference.  

[Scared4this]

Sorry... I just saw the answer in ur earlier post and u did.... Did u ever got ur lesions or sores swabbed?  

[Scared4this]

Did u ever have an outbreak?

[Sonic2014]

Well Fleetwood20 I have received my results for HSV2 from 2009 and it's greater than 1.1. HSV 2 IGG, TYPE SPEC 3.82 (H) 0.00 - 0.90 index. It's confirmed that I have both HSV1 & 2. Thanks for your help and knowledge.

[Fleetwood20]

What you describe is normal. Negative is <0.9 and positive is greater than 1.1. It is not uncommon for outcomes of 20 plus in an infected person. It is true though that once clearly positive, it means you have the virus and there is little else to be determined.

The issue is that some people experience elevated HSV2 readings if they have HSV1, as well as other issues that give rise to false positives. For this reason, the tests should always be done as a pair for a greater understanding.

[Sonic2014]

I cannot remember the score for either HSV 2 I previously had, but as I stated, my HSV1 results were flagged high (23), but the interval range was really strange (0.00-.90). I was informed that those intervals don't really matter.

[Fleetwood20]

You need to have clear positives (say scoring above 3.5) for each of type specific IgG antibodies for HSV1 and HSV2. Otherwise false positives are a possibility.

Is this the case?

[Sonic2014]

I am assuming that my HSV2 diagnosis was strong. I had it done twice 2009 and 2013. They both were positive. I am not sure how extreme the results were. Why do you ask?

[Fleetwood20]

This doesn't sound in any way like herpes for him. There are just too many things it could be such that seeking the advice of a dermatologist is the best he can do.

I reread your posts and have one question. Do you definitely have a strong positive IgG for HSV2 from the past?

[Sonic2014]

Hi Fleetwood! My guy friend has stated that he has been experiencing hot flashes in his legs. When I asked him if it was in one part of his leg, he said at any point, he would experience the hot flashes in many areas of his body. He tested last year for herpes and both test were negative. I've read Terri Warrens herpes manual and it stated that people would experience burning sensation in the "infected area" during the prodrome period. I know how the burning sensation feels, but it's no hot flash.  Yesterday, he told me he had a darkened reddish rash on his thigh. I looked at it and it's a flat circular rash and the inside was of the skin area was its normal color. There were no raised bumps, no fluids, itchiness, burning or indentions in the rash area. Outside of the tingling penis in July, hot flashes in his leg and rash on his thigh, he says he is fine. According to Terri Warren, almost all initial outbreaks occur on the shaft of the penis, but he hasn't experience that either. What could this possibly be? Thanks for your feedback.

[Sonic2014]

Hello Nurse Terri! I appreciate your time and knowledge. I have been diagnose with HSV2 (genital)years ago and was tested high a month ago for HSV1 after my guy friend stated that he was experiencing tingling in the head of his penis shortly after he showered each morning, for a few weeks,  but stated that the sensation would come and go. He chalked the sensation up to a change in his shower gel. I asked him if he had been seen or experience any burning, discharge bumps/blisters or redness of irritation. He said no and I looked at this penis and didn't see anything present. When I posed the question on the forum, I was informed, that tingling almost in most cases are followed by the actual outbreak....blisters etc.

The IgG test that I took wasn't specific in detecting what the location that was infected with the HSV1. Now, 2 months after unprotected oral sex, my guy friend states that he has been experiencing hot flashes in his legs. When I asked him if it was in one part of his leg, he said at any point, he would experience the hot flashes in many areas of his body. He tested last year for herpes and both test were negative. However, I know that this virus can lie doorman for months/years before one would even know that he/she is infected. I've read your manual and it stated that people would experience burning sensation in the "infected area" during the prodrome period. I know how the burning sensation feels, but it's no hot flash. Could this be a sign/symptom that an outbreak is in the prodrome state? Thanks for your feedback.

[Fleetwood20]

Let's wait and see what the HSV2 result is before speculating further.

[Sonic2014]

No I am not awaiting a HSV 2 test results.

1. So there is a detection of HSV 1 and I can assume that I maybe infected with HSV 1 oral virus, but at this times the location is undetected.  

2. Is there a possibility that the HSV 1 be genital?

3. Would you suggest that I get both test done again that show the detection (genital or oral)?

Thanks.

[Fleetwood20]

Yes this would indicate a HSV1 infection, no doubt as to the fact that you have the virus, perhaps location is a question.

Did you have another HSV2 test? Awaiting results?

For the moment, it would need to be assumed you have an oral HSV1 infection (just like 60% of the population) as well as a genital HSV2 infection.

It is hence possible that your partner could become infected with HSV1 from oral sex. However his symptoms to not align with such an infection. I think he is just aligning symptoms to herpes and stressing over things a bit too much due to your status.

[Sonic2014]

I received my results back yesterday for my HSV 1 test-164897. I had already ordered this test before I read your earlier post to do both test together. Basically this test does not show what's detected. I assume it's referencing HSV 1 or 2.
So  it was stated that my results were out of the normal range.
Results 23, Flags high, Ref. Interval 0.00-.90. Now 1.09 (positive). This some alarm! Can you help me decipher what it all means?

[Sonic2014]

Hi Terri I have been reading your post and the feedback that you been providing people concerning HSV results and status. I have been diagnosed with HSV2, for about 3 years. After my partner informed me that he felt some tingling sensations in the tip of his penis after he showered, but did not have any other symptoms. I was informed that it was unlikely that he was infected. So I decided to get myself tested for HSV1. I just received my results and are very confused. Can you help me interpret my results.
IgG Test
It was stated that my results were out of the normal range
Results-23
Flags-high
Ref. Interval 0.00-.90

Negative-  1.09

[Sonic2014]

Hi Terri I have been reading your post and the feedback that you been providing people concerning HSV results and status. I have been diagnosed with HSV2, for about 3 years. After my partner informed me that he felt some tingling sensations in the tip of his penis after he showered, but did not have any other symptoms. I was informed that it was unlikely that he was infected. So I decided to get myself tested for HSV1. I just received my results and are very confused. Can you help me interpret my results.
IgG Test
It was stated that my results were out of the normal range
Results-23
Flags-high
Ref. Interval 0.00-.90

Negative-   1.09

Please Help!!!

[Sonic2014]

So I'm up wracking my brain.  I personally don't believe that I am asymptomatic, if HSV 1 is present.  I have a small bump here and there form on the tip of my nose. I even now have small bumps, not red and w/o pus or fluid on my face (looks like acne). I don't get cold sores or blisters at all. I was wondering though what is the possibility of it being transmitted to my partner,  if I gave oral sex during these time, given this is HSV 1, but the gentile area did not come in contact with the area or areas in question?

[Fleetwood20]

The viruses are distinct. The testing antigens are different. They detect the HSV type, 1 or 2. They are different testing wells applied to the one vial of blood.

[Sonic2014]

So what's the difference btw the test? Same test, same blood...whether the test was done for HSV-2, I still should have been to find out for both, don't you think? This is so interesting. I took your advice though and had the same test done today for HSV-1.

[Fleetwood20]

Yes it does. You can get IgG antibody tests for both HSV1 and HSV2.

If you do not have a full printout of the results then maybe it is worthwhile getting these tests (again), best done together.

[Sonic2014]

I contacted my doctors office and was informed that the IgG test was used to diagnose my HSV2 status. Can you tell me if the IgG test also show or tell whether a person contracted both forms of HSV? Thanks.

[Sonic2014]

Thank you for your help.

[Fleetwood20]

Your genital herpes are no risk in terms of you giving oral sex. Do you have a HSV1 infection as well though?

Infection will occur most often during the act whilst the skin to skin contact is occurring. The wiping is of limited if any effectiveness in reducing transmission of a oral herpes infection should you have one. I'd go by a blood test for IgG antibodies as to your status if you do not know this. This would really help you understand what is going on.

Tingling on its own is almost certainly not herpes.