Herpes HSV 1 Genital

[Wilson759]

According to Dr. HHH, those with HSV 1 genital do not have ethical obligation to tell the sex partner as HSV 1 genital inflection to sex partner is uncommon and is very rare. I have a friend who was inflected with HSV 1 genital from her husband that her husband did not disclose to her regarding his HSV status. Why she was inflected with genital HSV 1 from her husband if the inflection is uncommon and rare?

[gracefromHHP]

Statistically she got it from her hubby from oral sex, not genital sex though it can happen.  Many folks who contract hsv1 genitally also have it orally, whether they are getting obvious cold sores to know that or not.  There's no way for us at this point and time to determine how it happened.  Most adults have hsv1 orally whether they get obvious cold sores or not and even without an obvious cold sore present - it's a risk of transmitting it to the genital area thru oral sex.

HHH has pretty much stopped saying that folks with hsv1 genitally have no reason to inform their partners. It's something he used to say but thankfully he's taken a different approach over the last year or two about it.  Even though the risk of transmitting a hsv1 genital infection to a partner's genitals is very low, it's still just the "nice" thing to do when you talk about it with a partner. There's also the bigger picture in all of this - if you aren't talking to a partner about a hsv1 infection, regardless of the location, what are they holding back from you?  It just sets up a nice pattern of communication and respect in a relationship when you talk about it.

grace

[Wilson759]

I have read through most of the thread between passedhsv1 and Dr. HHH and discovered that comments made by these 2 doctors are not matching.

I would like to have the latest research / statistics on the following issues:

(a) GHSV 1 genital to genital inflection (both protected and unprotected sex)
(b) GHSV 1 genital to oral inflection (unprotected)
(c) % of recurrence for GHSV 1 (Dr. HHH and Dr. Anna Wald seem having different %)

I have cultured having GHSV 1 and I do not want to inflect my present GF. Plenty of people are saying that GHSV 1 is mild and it is not a big deal, but it is HSV and it will be lifetime inflection.

GHSV 1 could also inflect more probably to other areas like fingers, mouth etc which I believe it is more than a mild inflection.

[gracefromHHP]

we don't have stats like you are asking for. Even though it seems like just about everyone has hsv1 genitally nowadays - it's still not as easy to study as hsv2 is.  We do know from 1 study that about 10% of all cases of hsv1 genital infections are from genital to genital sex ( evidently in that study folks swore they had never received oral sex ).  So yes it happens but it's lowered risk.  

As for reoccurences - the generally accepted info is - 50% of folks never have another recognizeable ob.  Of those who do have recurences - the average is 1 additional ob the first year and then 1 ob every other year.  About 10% of folks with hsv1 genitally have ob's more often.  

grace

[Wilson759]

As quote from Dr. HHH, the recurrences statistic is a follows:

40% after 1st ob, then nothing
50% after 1st ob, 1-2 ob for the 1st 1 to 2 years, then nothing
Less than 10% have recurrent ob.

Your above statistic shows that:
50% after 1st ob. then nothing
40% after 1 ob, then 1 ob every year
10% have more ob.

Which of the above stat. is more accurate?

Further, passedhsv1 has also referred to Dr. Anna Wald that her stat. shows different result.

This has confused me.

[gracefromHHP]

Our stats aren't all that much different.

Pretty much only time will tell how it will be for you with hsv1 genitally.  Any stats we post are just averages - your experience may differ.  

grace

[Wilson759]

Thank you for your prompt reply.

I have to really take precaution so as not to inflect my present GF. It is really troublesome to have Herpes as the period for viral shedding cannot be determined. However, as quoted from Dr. HHH, "asymptomatic shedding of HSV 1 is rare with genital inflection", another quote, "genital to genital transmission of HSV1 is even rarer".

What is the definition to the 2 words - "rare" and "rarer". What is the percentage for "rare" and what is the percentage for "rarer"?

I believe the words "rare" and "rarer" are referring to those GHSV 1 carrier without taking any anti-viral medication. As quoted by Dr.HHH, suppressive therapy is not necessary for GHSV 1.

Thanks
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[waringblender]

Good lord, it's "infect" not "inflect." Yeesh.

[gracefromHHP]

Hsv1 genitally sheds about 3-5% of days - that's the highest shedding averages for it I"ve seen.  When you do the math that's about a  dozen or so days out of the year that it's active genitally.    The odds of having sex on one of those days is pretty low ( obviously if you had an active lesion present you'd avoid sex ).  Even if you are having sex on a day you are shedding the virus - that doesn't mean your partner is doomed to contract it from you.  

There is always risk involved with sex.  It's never "safe" .  You knowing what you have puts the odds even higher in your partner's favor that you won't transmit it.  It's up to you to find a way to come to peace with the small risks involved.

grace

[Wilson759]

Appreciate if do not hijack my thread.

I am not attending English lecture!!

Try to help more people with HSV if you have plenty of time. I have seen the way you reply to most of the members here, those replies are useless.

Please do not hijack my thread.

[Wilson759]

But the 2 words as quoted by Dr. HHH - "rare" and "rarer", I believe to many readers the defination for "rare" means impossible and "rarer" means totally impossible.

I am surprised why Passedhsv1 has contracted GHSV 1 from his girlfriend for unprotected virginal sex? It falls under the word "rarer" means totally impossible.

As quoted by Dr. HHH, in his 30 years std business, he has never seen anyone with GHSV1 are not infected through oral sex. PassedHSV 1 is an example, he has contracted GHSV 1 through unprotected virginal sex from his girlfriend even though Passed HSV 1 has already Oral HSV 1.

I really hope scientists would really look into HSV 1 seriously as there are almost 60% - 70% of people in US and about 40% of people worldwide are having HSV 1. It will be so easily to spread to genital area.

I really hope data, statistics and research can be more readily available for GHSV 1

Vaccine could be available in the market for HSV 1, not only for those who are not infected, but also for those who are infected to stop outbreak and stop infection to others.





I really hope that HSV 1 should be

[gracefromHHP]

I think you are allowing yourself to get more worked up over this than it's worth.  There will always be the exception to the rules.  If  it's estimated that 10% of all genital hsv1 infections are from genital to genital contact - that means that 90% of them aren't which is the vast majority and does in fact make it considered "rare" that it's transmitted from genitals to genitals.  Doesn't mean it's impossible, it just means it's much less likely to happen that way.  

Accepting that you don't have 100% control over something is sometimes difficult. give yourself some time and hopefully this gets easier for you.  Common sense does go a long, long way in keeping your partner herpes negative.  

grace

[Wilson759]

Look like I have to live with this nightmare forever with my life and fear of transmitting to my GF forever in my life.

Some questions:

(a) I saw an internet that those anti-viral medicine has some side effect like causing kidney failure. Is it true?

(b) I am taking a pill called OMX - a medicine that can improve on immune system. I heard if immune system improve, GHSV 1 will not surface out easily.

(c) What is the best measure not to infect my GF as I really love her a lot.

Thanks

[gracefromHHP]

1 - no absolutely not true

2 - waste of money. immune "boosters" haven't been shown to make any difference

3- avoid sex when you have ob's - that will go a long,long way

grace

[Wilson759]

Have you seen any couple whereby husband is infected with HSV 1 genital and wife is not infected with HSV till old age?

Can Herpes spread all over the body through blood vessel, nerve system or poor immune system etc?

[Wilson759]

Very urgent reply is needed.

My GF is having fever, her whole face, body, hand, palm, leg, thigh everywhere are covered with red dots and patches and she feels itchy. What are all these things????

Are they herpes or measles???

Can herpes HSV 1 spread to the whole body. Our last sexual intercourse was on 6th July 2008. Today is 1st August 2008. Can herpes dragged for 26 days then show this type of terrible symptom.

Please help me to gather some information as tomorrow has no skin specialist available. She needs to wait till Sunday.

What am I going to do???

[gracefromHHP]

This board is not a place for medical issues that need urgent attention. Your gf needs to go see her provider.  There is nothing else I can do to help at this point.

grace

[Wilson759]

Some questions:

(a) According to some articles in the internet (some researches made by some scientists), Herpes can cause cervical cancer. Is it true? Means all Herpes carriers cannot get married and started off a family?

(b) According to Dr HHH, outbreak will decrease through passing the period of time. If a herpes carrier grow older, immune system decrease. Will there be more outbreak?

(c) What is the likelihood to develop systemic infection if infected with GHSV1?

Thanks