In a wirlwind HELP!

How long would it take for my body to have built up antibodies for .5 herpes2 and married for 31 years. NO breakouts. Last sex time was July 5th and shortly after that starting having horrible pelvic pain and discharge.  My husband had a breakout the 8th and went to the doctor on the nineth. When he test results from the culture came back it was positive. I have thought for awhile that he was cheating on me.  I just want to know if from July the 5th to july the 29th if my body could have built those antibodies up that fast.  We had sex the previous weekend but I didn't have the pain until the shortly after the 5th.  My doctor had called me on the 13th of August and gave me my test results.  The next week they called back and said I had a yeast infection.  If that so..thats' why I was hurting then and now. He prescribed  a three day dose of some type of cream(I threw the box away) so I can't give you the name of it..but as of today I'm going to have to call and tell them I'm in terrible pain in the pelvic and anals. I've tried suppositories but their not working.in my anus. All of this typing and I just want to know if from the 5th or a week before I could have built up enough antibodies to come up with a score of .5 positive. I don't want to take anymore chances if he did have an affair because I could get other stds if he still having one. I've also started having cold sores in my nose but I was type1 negative for 1&2.    Thanks,

[gracefromHHP]

A newly acquired herpes infection will not be reflected on a blood test. I recommend returning to your provider for an exam and culturing of any lesions they might see during that exam.

.5 is negative on a herpes igg blood test.

In your nose might be cold sores or it could also be a bacterial infection aka impetigo.  Further evaluation of those is in order too it sounds like.

grace

[thenandnow]

my test was >5.00 positive, sorry for posting incorrect
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[gracefromHHP]

If you are testing >5 for a hsv2 igg then it's not a newly acquired infection for you though it's impossible to say how long you've had it.  did your hubby have a blood test too when he went to be seen with his symptoms?

grace

[thenandnow]

I lost my post so i will try again. his was positive for the specimen hsv2 and negative on the pcr bloodwork. 1&2. For 20+years he has had scabs come up and one doctor told him not to worry about it it was jockitch. I remember one time the whole area in his boxershort area was completely covered in red bumps and I said it look like herpes and he said it was just jockitch. We had sex that night in about 2001. But he has had leisons come up all the time and different doctors would give him valtrex and he wouldn't take it. I guess he still thought is was nothing,me too. This last doctor he saw in may, june and july and last year. The doctor said the only way to have the test was on a fresh specimen. So. like I said we had sex on the 5th the leison came up on the 7th and I thought he aready had known something was going on before we had sex. Then he got he test back, I was upset and went to my gyn, he did a swab and bloodwork on the 29th They called me on the 13th and told me I was possitive for hsv2 and negative for hsv1&2.
Then they called back on the 22 and said I had a yeast infection and they needed to call in something for me. I used it for 3 days as told.  I still hurt really bad in my genital, but no breakouts or redness, just a very heavy white flow of liquid  and  my anus is swollen without any breakouts.   My husband is scared to go to a specialist because with his specimen positive and bloodwork negative and my bloodwork positive and swab neg. he thinks they we tell him he has been unfaithful to me. I was shocked at my diagnosis and have wondered about him. He was coming home late for about 2 months and then when this started he started coming home on regular time.  Anyway we are a couple in to turmol. He said we should just go on with our lives because we knew he had whatever for years. But then start thinking (I didn't). I'm more upset than he is.  I feel sex is dirty and afraid of contracting anything else even if he is honorable.  I will see a counselor, like I did after I first found out.  My gyn gave me the insenuation that I got it from my husband. Now you know why I call my post whirlwind. I/m just afraid of the disease.
Forgive the typos..I did tell him that the doctor should have done a type specific on him, but his doctor said it was the same. PCR in just for the specimen Right?  I think that is what scares him, because it looks like he just got it.    Hope you can get some of my meaning out of this.  Thanks

[gracefromHHP]

A pcr blood test isn't useful.  A pcr swab of lesion is but since herpes isn't a blood borne virus, a pcr blood test won't be helpful in diagnosing herpes.  Perhaps your hubby would feel better if he got a herpes WB done or something?

I couldn't find your prior posts either - didn't you post about this before here too before you got your test results back? wonder where they went?

from the sounds of things hubby has had hsv2 for a long, long time now and just never had anyone come right out and say - listen dude you have genital herpes loud enough for him to pay attention.  I'd assume that you got it from him.  If he's had it for 20+ years and hasn't treated it or taken precautions since he thought it really was jock itch - who knows when you picked it up.  sounds like something triggered you to have a booger of an obvious reoccurence this time which sent you to the clinic for testing and diagnosis.

Seeing a therapist about your feelings about sex sounds like a good idea.  Avoiding sex only adds stress to a marriage I think unless you both want to avoid it.

Hang in there :)

grace

[thenandnow]

Thank you.:)  I'm going to TRY to talk him into another test. I wouldn't have even gone to the doctor as soon as I did without him having his diagnosis and the leison ruinning our 31st anniversary, it was on the day the spot came up on him. Right now he's ready to end it all unless I just drop it.  Makes it really hard on me because I having a hard time getting over my diagnosis.  Thanks again Grace. God bless you.

[thenandnow]

I just called my doctor and told them the yeast infection was not clearing up. I thought they had told me my swab was negative but with the yeast infection I asked again(I'm hard of hearing) and the nurse said that the swab was postive without a breakout and that is why I had a yeast infection.  My question is why now after31 yrs would I be having a breakout and yeast infection? You know I told you my husbands specimen was positive and bloodwork was negative.  but the bloodwork was a pcr and I know that doesn't work for herpes. I'm starting to think all sorts of things when I had already decided to let it go and live on. My husbands doctor told him he ran the same test that I have run. I'm wondering now since the doctor ask him if he was unfaithful that he ran the wrong test because he knew it would come up negative and then if my husband was tested again with the proper test he would show up positive.  You know if he had gotten this from someone else and didn't tell me that would be sooo wrong.  My husband told me if I didn't let this go and stop trying to find out if he was unfaithful he couldnt take it anymore.  He is also seeing his counselor regular now every week. I have wondered if he is hiding something, and now that we both have been diagnosed with herpes2 that he can let it go and have no problems with me getting a divorce. Like I said this is a whirlwind. My husband told his sister on time when she found out her husband was running around that he would never tell me if he had. Just sitting around wondering and shaking.  I did call my doctor to tell him I was not coping during the day and can't stop shaking. I'm sure if will send something to help.  My husband said he would go to a specialist now if I wanted to, but that if he started telling him that he infected me he would not take it any longer.  Help.  Just talk to me please.

[gracefromHHP]

Have you asked hubby if you could go along to his counseling sessions so that both of you could talk to the counselor? Might be something to consider to help you two work thru this together.

Our bodies just hate us sometimes I think.  Get one thing and then another goes on and then something else crops up. It can be frustrating at times.  I encourage you to go back and get retested for yeast and see if it's still there or not since you are still having some symptoms down yonder.

grace

[thenandnow]

I did call my gyn and the nurse said I have an infection and gave be an option to use oral meds or cream. We discussed the signs of infection. The yeast is still there after using the cream they gave me for a yeast infection and it didn't go away that's why their calling in another presciption for an infection.  Qestion..why would all this time am I have an infection and signs of hsv2 like this and not all of these years of being married. God help you grace with all these questions from me.  I never have had anything like this happen in my lifetime. I'm still afraid to have sex with my husband right now or in the future, due to the unknown. Should I go and be tested for other stds?

[thenandnow]

My husband suggested that we see his counselor serveral months ago for marriage couselor  and now he says it might be a conflict of interest. So I don't know about the couseling. sorry about typos again.

[gracefromHHP]

Well then go see your own counselor at least so you have someone to talk to and work thru this with while things are so rough for you.

Our bodies change as we get older and sometimes what didn't cause issues before, causes issues now.  Just the way it goes sometimes.  I'm surprised they are just calling you in something instead of seeing you for treatment. If this doesn't work and you aren't better in a  week then go in and be seen and properly examined.

Hang in there :)    and don't worry - typos don't often bother me - unless they make me laugh...he he he  

grace

[thenandnow]

Back on the post on August 25 at 1:08, you stated something cause me to have a reoccurence that made me go to the doctor.  Please read my post again, I didn't go to the doctor because of any pain at that time. I went because my hubby's test came bace positive.  I was shocked and went to my gyn and then to a counselor.  I was hurting on the 5th of July, but not enough for me to be concerned, then when I went to the doc all hell broke lose after my test came back bloodwork >5 and swab negative.  The timing of all of this is soooo odd.  Again I did not go to the doctor because of breakout.  I went and he didn't see anything.  He used a special light and did a complete swab of the whole area in the below the waist.  Then, when the test came back positive I freaked out...way out.  Grace I have read all sorts of posts, journals,websites ect.  I just can't figure out why I started having the symtoms (symptoms) after I found out..I thought maybe stress;(. I also read usually, the people with high antibodies are prostitutes, man to man, and hiv people.  Mine was >5.  What the heck is going on.  Please believe me I am not any of those, The stigma even at the gyn's office is aweful.  I go for years of my life being a good, clean and loving  person and the awful thing has happen to me. Yes, right now I'm a little upset.  God knows me and I guess that is all that matter's.  I helplessly feel no one believes me and how this happened is beyond my comprehesion. Just wanted to talk to someone about it today.  I still hurting in the down yonder area and waiting on the nurse to call back. They sent bacterial meds last week, insert cream and 2 pills your take one and then 48 hours take the other. No sense in going into the name.  Anyway I looked at myself, the discharge in gone but the redness and pain around my V in still hurting a little. Again I still can't understand why after being upset with my husbands test and then going to the doc I have something going on already and really strong.. How long does it take one to build up antibodies? Does your body keep them whenever, and the antibodies stay like >5 forever in my body? I can't go anywhere right now because all I can wear are my pjs.  Jeans or pants hurt, so going anywhere,,,counselor, specialist, gyn would take a great deal fo effort. I still taking Valtrex.  soso confusing.  Thanks for listening.

[thenandnow]

I just got a call from the gyn's office and the nurse told me the swab they took on the 29th of July was negative for hsv 2. My bloodwork was what was positive. So, I was not having a breakout then or now. She told be that I have a very bad yeast bacterial infection and they will find out what is going on with me. The doctor is going to sit me down and go over hsv with me completely so I understand more of all I have been asking.  I'm scared of what he might say because he told me that it was a recent infection, in which you and I both know is not.  The nurse said he is very experience in this area and so is she, that he has many women with this problem and he will go over all of it.  Wish the best for me. You can either ignore the previous post or you can talk to me a little more if you would like. I just needed someone to listen to me while this is going on.  Thank you again.

[gracefromHHP]

I think going to be seen again is the best thing. If you aren't feeling better after a week of treating whatever is going on down yonder then it's time for a recheck and proper testing of your vaginal secretions. Also when you go - go armed with your list of questions to ask too so you don't get in there, sit down and go ah um - yeah I've been fine -like most of us do.  

Hang in there - it's a lot to go thru. Sounds like a lot of coincidence for you -you found out you had hsv2 around the same time you had a doozy of a vaginosis going on :(  Sometimes when it rains, it pours.  

grace

[thenandnow]

Thanks for everything! LOL! Your such a nice person, thanks for adding a great sense of humor to my post.) God Bless.