Oral Herpes - Fear

Hi, I'm under a immense fear that I have an Herpese virus from a stranger I met this stranger on saturday and she only only kissed my mouth, which involved tounge sucking, that was the only encounter I had with her and from Monday afternoon I feel tired, body ache,dry mouth (dehydrated) and feverish.

Please advsie, is this the symptom of having Herpese (HSV1), if not can you please let me know what are the symtoms (symptoms) of Herpes, and after how many days of encounter you get the virus activated .

Thanks in advance,

[auntiejessi]

Did she have any sores in or around her mouth that you noticed?

I'm not sure why you are thinking herpes, when this could, and most likely is, a run of the mill virus, like the cold or the flu.

Aj

[CHC126]

Aj - Thanks for your time and response.I haven't observed any sores inside her mouth but some pimple like below her lips, but it didn't sound like a sore for me,if it was then it was definetly healed and I don't it was any sore/pain for her.

Also,If she had sore inside,I think it should be painfull for her and she will not intend to kiss me, am i right?

This is the second time after five years in marriage life, I was been kissed by some one and stupid mistake when I was drunk.

Please let me know what are the symtoms (symptoms) of Herpes? also If the mentioned symptons of me are related Herpes then what is the immediate precaution/treatment I should take .

Thanks a million in advance  

[auntiejessi]

You should check out the herpes handbook at www.westoverheights.com and www.ashastd.org for more info on symptoms.  ASHA has good info on oral herpes.

I really think guilt is manifesting here, and you need to focus on working through that rather than wasting time worrying about herpes.

Have you ever tested for herpes?  At least 60% of the population has it, and only about 20-40% of those will ever get a cold sore.

Aj

[CHC126]

No I haven't tested for Herpes, please let me know what are tests I should take?

Thanks!

[auntiejessi]

Ask for a type specific IgG blood test.  

Remember that there is NO reason to freak out if you test positive for type 1, ok?  Most people do.

Aj

[CHC126]

Dear Aj - You are like a god send to me, I have consulted doctor today and he told there are no signs on me of infecting Herpes.He has drawn blood to test just in case.

My encounter was this past saturday, do you think it is too early for the test ?

Thanks!

[auntiejessi]

Yes, for this encounter it is.  But you will have a baseline result to know if you are negative now, and if you turn up positive later, you'll know its a new infection.

Aj

[CHC126]

Thanks for your inputs,If it is a new infection then is it possible for me to transmitt to my wife, I'm very concerened as she is pregnet now..:(...

What do you think I should do to avoid transmitting to my wife?

Thanks for your time.

[auntiejessi]

If it is a new infection, you could transmit it to your wife, but keep in mind that its not at all likely.

Perhaps you could tell her you have some weird symptoms and don't want to kiss her or perform oral right now as she is pregnant.  

You won't transmit it any other way than kissing or oral sex.

Aj

[CHC126]

Aj - I'll receive My blood test result on monday, meanwhile I got a chance to talk the person whom I kissed on this past saturday and she told "I'm a soldier and I'm clean
" . I hope she is telling me the truth.

But my symtoms (symptoms) like feeling tired,body aches, feeling feversih (but my thermometer doesn't show I have fever), dry lips freaks me out about Herpes.Please advise these symtoms (symptoms) are sign of Herpese.

Also, I have read online that oral herpese window time is b/w 2-20 days after the expouser.Is that true? If so this is my 5 th day and symptoms I mentioned above sounds like I have Oral Herpese? and When I can lead a normal sex life with my wife.I hate to infect her?

Please please give me your wise inputs.

Thanks in advance

[auntiejessi]

Some of those can be symptoms of herpes, but the dry lips wouldn't be.

You can resume sexual activity with your wife now, but I would avoid oral sex and kissing until the symptoms go away.

I wonder how much of your symptoms are due to stress - fatigue, aches, etc., surely can be from stress.

Aj

[CHC126]

Aj - You are my spirit of life, thanks for your precious time.Dry lips are not the symptom thats great....but it is dry and burring too..I apply vaseline to it...I hope that burring of lips is also not symtom of Herpese?


Thanks

[auntiejessi]

Nope, not without a cold sore present.

Aj

[CHC126]

Hmmm.....Kissing is a nightmare...I read and found out there is no cure for Herpes at all...I don't know what should I do now.....

[CHC126]

Aj - My blood results have not yet come and I get these kind of questions, Please help me.What if the person I kissed is infected with Herpes and there was no outbreak or she was good at that time when I kissed her, then do you still see chances of me getting infected by Herpes?.


Please advise.

[auntiejessi]

If she had no outbreak, your chances are low for getting herpes from her.

And no, there is no cure for it.

Has your doctor seen all of these symptoms?  You should get it checked out if he hasn't.

Aj

[CHC126]

Aj - Thanks! I have discussed this with my doctor and also he observed my mouth and told and believes that I don't have any cold sores or Herpes symptom.I want to be honest with you that I'm scared till I get my blood work results.

This is my 7th day after my expouser and I see my lips in the mirror very often..and I don't observe any cold sore on my lips or inside my mouth..I hope this is a good sign?

Also,I'm very very scared that If I have herpes I'll infect my wife....I don't want that to happen...the reson is she is pregnet and very very clean...

Thanks for your time....and your response which are so supportive and build my confident...

[auntiejessi]

Yes, no signs of an ob is a good thing.  :)

[CHC126]

Aj-
One more day for results of my blood work
I'm still undergoing stress due to guilt and
a fear of infecting my wife If I have herpes.

I'm taking some meds like Airborne,vitamin c 1000 mg
to boost my immune system and also Tylenol extra strong.And this is my 8th day, do you think this might be the reason I don't have any outbreak till now?

Also, I'd like discuss this symptom I observed next day morning after I
Kissed the stranger, inside my mouth I felt like a white layer it was sticky
was this a yeast I don't know but it was different? and it was there that morning only
Do you know what is this? is this symptom of me infected with Herpes?

Please please advise.

[auntiejessi]

Its not herpes.  I dont' know what it is, though, and can't make that diagnosis.  Your doctor doesn't seem to think its herpes, so I have to agree with him.

You are starting to become obsessed with this, and as we see on these forums constantly, my guess is that guilt is the main reason for this.  If you need to work through that, then you need to seek some help.  Obsessing about herpes isn't healthy, or productive.

Aj

[CHC126]

Aj - Sorry I'm bothering you with too many questions.

I'd like to disucss this with you about one more stupid incident last year
and it was in november,I had an unprotected oral sex performed on me
which is fellatio and its been 9 months now and do you think,I might have
infected with genital herpes?

I have seen any symptoms till now

But from today I'm feeling buring sensation when I urinate.

Please please help.

[CHC126]

Is buring sensation while urinating is because I'm taking vitamin C 1000 mg since from yesterday.

[CHC126]

These are the only above two incidents I had in my life.

But I have  tested for HIV in december and the results were negative.


Are there any place on weekends, where I can get the whole STD panel done...:(

[gracefromHHP]

You kissed a girl - the guilt you are having over that is far more of an issue than your risk of oral herpes.  

You have already received terrific help here from Jess - no reason to keep looking for reassurance several times a day. It just takes away time from folks who have new questions how are looking for help too.  Please keep that in mind.

If you need help with your lab test results when you get them we will gladly help you with them.  Please write down the numeric results of them - ie hsv1 igg 4. 8 and hsv2 igg .45 and post them here in this same post. It just makes it easier for us to respond when we have the full background of your 'story' in front of us :)

grace

[CHC126]

Grace/Jess - Thanks a million for all your inputs and time, I had one more last question before I get back to you with results,do you suggest me to take the whole STD panel test for my two encounters which I have mentioned in my previous posts or just get back to you with my Herpes results? please advise.

I'm extremly sorry for too many questions...Hope you understand my situation.

Best regards

[gracefromHHP]

I actually don't advise getting any std testing at all done from these 2 encounters.  Both are very, very low risk and it's just not worth the time or money to get it done.

I do advise using condoms even for receiving oral sex if you plan on having sexual contact with others outside of your marriage. I think your wife deserves that even if it is an open marriage type situation ( you didn't say it is but I assume it isn't ).  

grace

[CHC126]

Grace - I trust this site and you,It felt so happy to see your reply ....

I love my wife a lot!!! and I don't want any sex out side my marriage...only two stupid exposers were when I was drunk and with my crazy friends...I'll work on controlling intake of liqour...

You guys are doing a great job by responding to questions of so many people who are in need...I really really respect that..

anyways I'll try to post my blood work results which I'll come to know tomorrow...

Have a great day..

[CHC126]

Grace/Jess - I did get a chance to talk to my doctor this morning and he told me that I'm positive for  HSV-1.

HSV-1  and numeric results are 1.13 and he also told that he didn't test HSV-2 do you think I'll have that too..please help me and direct for precautions and medication...

Also, do you suggest me to do the STD panel done , i so where can go so that I get the results on the same day.

Best regards,

[auntiejessi]

I see no reason to test for hsv2.

And I see no reason to test for stds, if all you did was kiss.

So it looks like you have hsv1.  You've probably had that for years, and didn't know it.  You wouldn't have tested positive so fast after that encounter.

Aj

[CHC126]

Aj - Thanks for your support.Sorry I have too many questions for you all...

I had one more encounter last year which I have explained above i.e I received the oral sex, Kissing and unprotected blow job with an escort and as per Dr.HHH I also did get tested for HIV after 21 days and was negative.

I feel the buring sensatino while urinating since from yesterday,do you see any reason for this but after reviewing Dr.HHH If I don't see any symptoms based on his timing I sholdn't worry, but I'd like to bring to your notice for past one week I have gone through immense stress...please please help...I'd like take the STD panel done to make sure I don't have any other STD's, can you advise in Orange county,CA is there a place where I can go and get the STD panel done who will give me instant results?

Also, My doctor has given me an appointment for next, do you see I should take any medication for HSV-1, So far I don't any see any cold sores on my lips just feel tierdness and feverish.

HSV-1 is just oral or will I get genital also.

Is there any handbook about HSV-1 so that I can read and be preapred?

Below is the post I picked from STD forum from Dr.HHH

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H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.  
Male
Seattle - WA
Member since Sep 2004    , Jul 17, 2008 12:20PM
First, relax.  Your original perception is more accurate than what you found by searching online.  By and large, oral sex is safe sex, especially in regard to HIV. For all other STDs, oral sex is much less efficient as a route of transmission than vaginal or anal sex.  These issues have been discussed frequently on this forum; with a little searching you can find a lot of information that should be quite reassuring.

To the direct questions:

1) There is a small but real risk of gonorrhea, herpes (due to HSV-1), and nongonococcal urethritis (NGU).  There is a theoretical risk of syphilis, but that STD is so rare in heterosexual women in the US that it's really not an issue.  There is no risk for chlamydia, which rarely infects the mouth and throat and therefore is not transmitted by oral sex.  As noted above, no practical risk for HIV, no more than one chance for 10-20,000 exposures, if the oral partner is infected.

2) See any STD-knowledgeable health care provider.  If you're not confident in the knowledge of your personal provider, visit your local health department STD clinic for expert, highly confidential, and low cost (perhaps free) care.  Don't go in asking for specific tests; accept the provider's judgment about what tests should be done.

3) Timing of symptoms varies from typically 2-5 days for gonorrhea, 3-10 days for herpes, 7-14 days for NGU, and 2-3 weeks for syphilis, That said, most STDs from oral sex cause symptoms; if no symptoms appear, you really don't need test at all, except for psychological reassurance.  The main symptoms to watch for are abnormal discharge from the penis (gonorrhea, NGU) or penile blisters or sores (herpes, syphilis).

4) For the reasons above, the chance you caught anything is low, but of course I cannot guarantee you aren't infected.  To be maximally safe, it is best to avoid sex with your wife for the next 2-3 weeks.  If you do have sex with her, of course condoms would markedly reduce the already low risk to her.

5) The near-zero risk for HIV from oral sex includes the fact that lots of people have oral lesions.  You really have no serious HIV concerns here, and anyway in most areas of the US, HIV is rare in commercial sex workers.  But for absolute reassurance, feel free to have an HIV test in about 6 weeks.

I hope this helps.  Best wishes--  HHH, MD
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Best regards,
CHC

[CHC126]

Also, I have an urge for urinating and it has mild burning sensation when I urinate?

Do you think it is sign of Gonherea or some thing else?

If so do you think it will infect my wife? I'm very much concerned about my wife?

Please help.

[CHC126]

My mouth is dry and I feel like drinking water, I drink water, once I drink  after few minutes, I have to urinate...This is happening to me since from yesterday.

Thanks!

[gracefromHHP]

You are suffering from anxiety at this point. I recommend you talk to  a professional about all this.  There is not any more help we can give you here on the board.

grace

[CHC126]

Aj/Grace - Please don't push me by saying I'm suffering from Anxiety,I'll not ask you more questions now onwards.But please help me what is that I have do now if I have HSV1.

I reviewed My numeric result and it states:

Herpes 1 and 2 IgM antibodies result  *1.13..

Please advise is that correct lab test? or is there any other testing?

Also, do you think I should take any medication?

Can I resume sex life with my as normal?

Thanks!

[CHC126]

Please atleast by telling who is best doctor to consult(dermatologist), so that I get an idea how I should live with and make wife not infected.

Best regards,

[CHC126]

Aj/Grace - Sorry to get back to you again,

Grace told me not to test for any STD's for my above two mentioned expousers, but for my mental reassurance I just had have done the whole STD panel done and fortunately all the test results were negative and also HSV1 and HSV2 were negative too (My doctor as to do the repeat as he observed there was some error as it showed Igm 1.13 but HSV1 was neagative with numeric results 0.31 which is < 0.9 and it was negative).

So my question was do you want me to advise to retest for herpes again to make sure I don't have it? if so after how many weeks/months after the expouser which is only kissing?

Please advise this will be my last question to you..

Thanks a million in advance

[gracefromHHP]

We advised you it wasn't worth testing for any std in the first place.  Please do not continue wasting our time here since obviously what we say doesn't mean squat to you anyways.  

grace