Pain and discomfort (no sores)

[needsumhelps]

I have read that Herpes can cause constant nerve pain in the penis. Is this true? I have had this pain for around 3 months and have had all STD checks - all clear. Except they havent and wont test me for Herpes?! I had a NSU which they gave me antibiotics for and that when but this pain is still there.

I have also heard that Herpes can cause NSU in men is that also true?

Thank

[needsumhelps]

The pain is pretty constant after I have got up in the mornings. It have been for several weeks. Not sharp shooting pains but more of a constant discomfort?

Does this some normal of herpes symptoms?! I am going to the doctors this morning, but I know they are just going to say again that I should wait a couple of weeks to see if it settles down. It has been 3 months and its not settled down! What do you think?

[dan_252]

Hi are you still suffering from your problem I have something very Similar going on?

[Caganewboy]

I am having the exact same pain , initially it started with lower abdominal pain , then started on upper thigh and groin area and also pain penis , all my upper body and both arms have muscle pain  and flu like symptoms  from last 3 months , I got positive to HSV1  , I got a sore on lip after 1 month from the test  which cleared in 5 days but the pain in groin is still there  , I am very confused HSV1 with pain in penis  and pain for more than 3 months.. not sure how many more days it will be there

[auntiejessi]

Herpes doesn't give you all over body pain. You'd have either facial symptoms or genital symptoms, depending on if you had oral herpes, genital herpes, or both. Herpes wouldn't give you abdominal pain, upper body and arm pain.

You pretty clearly have oral hsv1. The rest of it, I don't know. Herpes wouldn't give you pain for months with no outbreaks. Have you seen a doctor for your symptoms? Something other than herpes is happening here.

[Caganewboy]

Thanks for the reply, but all my other STD test on28 days came negative except hsv1 , it's been more than 3 months now , still I have localized pain in my inner thighs and groin area , is this some lymph node pain, I do not see any swelling, I sometime have pain in penis too

[Caganewboy]

Also I have tingling sensation in hands and back of my head, I started taking aclyvoir though

[auntiejessi]

You've probably had hsv1 since you were a kid.

What was your exposure when the symptoms started?

Again, herpes doesn't cause all these symptoms.

[Caganewboy]

Do you mean hsv1 do not cause inner thigh and groin pain, pain penis and sometimes burning like feeling when peeing?

[auntiejessi]

Not without actual sores. You don't get neuralgia without having an actual outbreak.

It never causes tingling in your hands or the back of your head.

[Caganewboy]

I got an outbreak, I had sore on my lip for the first time in my life  but no sores in groin and genital, but can this first outbreak cause post herpetic neuralgia, and pain in thigh buttocks and groin ?

[auntiejessi]

Go get the sore cultured. You don't know that it's an outbreak.

If you have oral herpes, you wouldn't get genital symptoms. Oral herpes and genital herpes are not connected in the body.

Herpes infects nerve groups. Oral herpes infects the trigeminal nerve, and this means that you'd get symptoms around the mouth and nose. You might get nerve pain in the facial area. Genital herpes infects the sacral ganglia, meaning you could get outbreaks anywhere in the boxer shorts area. You might get nerve pain in the same area. These nerve groups are not connected, so if you get an oral outbreak, you won't get genital symptoms.

It's also why you won't get hand or arm pain, etc.

[SendBen]

I am having the exact same experience. Has anyone gotten anywhere with this? I know I don't have to explain how nice it would be to find some help to anyone here. Thanks.

[rbar28]

any news? same issue no sores but cut like pain below penis.. im waiting on 6 weeks to get restested

[midwestconfused32]

I've had the exact same issue have you gotten an answer?

[midwestconfused32]

I am having the exact same issue and no answer, have you gotten an answer?

[collegeusername007]

Also to note some things, I have not had a single blister or blister-like appearance since infection 4+ months ago. My scrotum is visibly redder and sticky to the touch, I get red rashes all over my body but they are fleeting in places that are dry, such as my arms. My penis is also red like my scrotum and always cold to the touch and slightly moist. It gets what looks like marks from a light-brown marker in various places at the tip. But, again, these are all symptoms that are dismissed without thought by the doctors, who will only diagnose it as herpes if 'one of the marks erupts into a blister' (even despite my gf's hsv1-positive status!) The nerve pain I get is mostly localized in and around testes, but nerve pain to one of my legs has really worsened as well. I have experienced jolts of pain through all limbs, though

[collegeusername007]

I don't understand why Grace is posting this same message on every thread.. It's not like we're all crazy.

Needssumhelps, I have the same exact symptoms. It is constant and has been since day 1 of infection with the virus. The pain itself is varying, but is nonetheless absolutely constant for myself, as well. I've seen urologists, ER doctors and 3 general physicians and all have refused herpes, was difficult to get the test, and test proved negative in myself and only positive in my long-term girlfriend (after anticipating having to pay for the test without insurance because they refused to offer without 'typical symptoms'.)

Get prescribed Valtrex- they'll do it if you beg- and not Acyclovir as I've seen many more positive reviews for Valtrex. Most of all, live as healthy as possible with a balanced diet, excercise if you can, minimize caffeine or tobacco. The nerve pain seems to decrease and eliminate entirely in many people.

Please list any other symptoms you have that are not typical (but for example, don't bother listing joint pain if you've ever had episodes of joint pain at a time absolutely prior to infection)

[rooney5]

I am in a similar situation to you but it is lower back pain, leg and buttock pain. There is also a slight penile pain but not apparent blisters or sores. Have you gotten anywhere with your doctor?

[needsumhelps]

Ok I understand. But there arnt necessarily always going to be blisters? Could I ask what would the symptoms of an outbreak be without any blisters?

[gracefromHHP]

any obvious lesions will occur within a day or two of symptoms starting.  for example - if you contracted herpes and started with a headache, stiff neck, general feeling of blahness, you'd have obvious blisters a day or two after that started.

did that make more sense?

[needsumhelps]

I meant to say I wasnt fully clear about what you meant! Didnt mean to sound rude

[needsumhelps]

So it can take from a week to ten days for blisters to appear? Sorry wasn't fully clear?

[gracefromHHP]

usually a week to 10 days for a recurrence, 2-3 weeks for a newly acquired infection.

[needsumhelps]

Thanks Grace.

Do you mean hurt like a open cut would hurt? Or ache? How long would it take to blister up? and how long would the outbreak generally last for? From initial signs to the end

Thanks

[gracefromHHP]

it can look that mild if you had hsv1 orally first but usually it itches and hurts too.

[needsumhelps]

Hi Grace

I have booked an appointment with a urologist its only a scan though for some reason?!

Anyway can a first outbreak look like a very light non itchy red patch?

Thanks

[gracefromHHP]

correct, ask I've said before, this doesn't sound like herpes going on.

an urologist at this point would be the best follow up.

grace

[needsumhelps]

Hi Grace,

Thanks again for your response. I have not seen a urologist, as my doctor hasn't referred me.

I have been tested for all STD except herpes, and all were negative. I'm at a lose end!

Do you really think that this doesnt sound like herpes. The discomfort in my penis is almost constant, i have slight pain in my legs and groin. Can herpes cause pain of the penis for long periods of time without ever having lesions?

Sorry for asking all this Grace I'm just struggling to stay positive at the moment, with this constant discomfort!

Thanks

[gracefromHHP]

you still will not have daily symptoms with herpes regardless.  

many things can cause you pain - including things as simple as the pants you wear and where the waistband sits on you.  a one time swab inside the urethra isn't going to be worthwhile either. I wouldn't waste your time on it.  odds are it will come back negative ( you'd have to be having an active recurrence at the time of the swab for it to be helpful ) and it will just add further irritation to your already irritated genital area.

have you seen an urologist yet?

grace

[needsumhelps]

Thanks grace. I met that in the morning this is nothing then the discomfort gets worse through the day.

In your experience are there situations when herpes will always cause discomfort for weeks and weeks without sores? I appreciate the it may not be herpes but I can't think of what else it could be?! My doctor doesnt know either she has told me to come back in two weeks if it doesnt get better, and she will do a swab of the inside of my urethra.

[gracefromHHP]

herpes will not cause you to have pain every morning.  there are clear periods of no symptoms whatsoever with herpes.  

grace

[big_dan]

you need to be more clear in describing your pain in the penis

is it a random shooting pain?  is it pain when you urinate?  

herpes does infect the nerves so they can be affected

[gracefromHHP]

honestly many other things can cause this other than herpes. don't assume it has to be herpes and follow up on it with your provider.

grace

[needsumhelps]

Hi Grace

I know I am asking the same questions. But I also experiencing alot of leg pain too. From what I understand this can be a sign of the virus. The pain is generally in the same places on my leg. I am just wondering if anyone has experienced anything like this!?

Thanks