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Hey guys,
Its me again. Cant escape worry. It really is terrible, and I don't wish this feeling on anybody.
My situation was this:
Went to a massage parlor for the first time. Ended up getting offered a happy ending. She used her saliva. At first she spit it on her hand, and then started. Then when she decided to add more saliva, she spit it directly on the top of my member. The massage went on for no longer than 10 min, ejaculation ensued. Other than this, her mouth was never on any part of my body. I had grabbed her breasts and butt, but she kept her underwear on.
I did not see any sores in or on her mouth as it was a dark lit room. However, I will note that it seemed as though she had an abundant amount of saliva.
About a week after this incident, I engaged in unprotect sex with my partner. We had sex everyday we were together, so we had sex on days 7-11 post possible exposure.
About 1 (the last time we had sex) - 4 (the first time we had sex since my encounter) days after my partner began experiencing swollen lymph nodes in her inguinal region that were painful, especially to the touch.
The nodes kept swelling for around 10-14 days. The lymph nodes have stopped swelling but the remain the large size. They do not pain her anymore unless she is walking a lot.
She was tested for STI's 7 days post exposure to me. I was tested for STI's 18 days post my encounter with massage parlor.
It has been 4 weeks this has been going on. I have no visible lesions. However, occasionally (mainly when i think about it) I feel a slight sensation at the very tip of my penis, but then when I readjust down there it will go away. It does not burn to urinate. No excessive itching. No discharge. My partner is also not experiencing any burning while urinating, has not seen any lesions. However, at about the 27-28 day mark she got cold-like symptoms. Coughing, congestion, semi complained of chest pain. No other nodes of hers are swollen. She has lost weight during all of this as well.
For me, the only possibility of transmitting an STI to her would be if I transmitted Herpes. So in order to alleviate my fears, I want to focus on my encounter, because after all, if I didn't contract anything at the parlor, then I couldn't have given her an STI (i say this because my STI test would have detected something, as I have not had another partner but her for over a year).
What are the realistic percentages of contracting herpes from this one encounter assuming she had no sores, or bleeding comes in her mouth? (I am assuming herpes couldn't be contracted on the hands because the skin is incredibly thick there.)
Now, what are my realistic chances of contracting herpes from this one encounter assuming she did have sores or bleeding gums in her mouth that I just didn't see?
My titer for my first test were 0.08 HSV 1 and 0.27 HSV 2 on the Herpeselect IgG. I am testing again this weekend which will be the 6 week mark. If my titers are negative, then I can assume safely I wasn't the cause of this I presume?
I know I have asked a lot of questions, and I have gotten a lot of really helpful answers. This is my last thread I am going to allow myself to start, because the worry is ruining my life. I am so afraid my one and only mistake in this relationship is going to cost me the one that I want to spend the rest of my life with, and not only that, I could have given a life complicating condition. Please help, I am worried sick.
Thanks
Its me again. Cant escape worry. It really is terrible, and I don't wish this feeling on anybody.
My situation was this:
Went to a massage parlor for the first time. Ended up getting offered a happy ending. She used her saliva. At first she spit it on her hand, and then started. Then when she decided to add more saliva, she spit it directly on the top of my member. The massage went on for no longer than 10 min, ejaculation ensued. Other than this, her mouth was never on any part of my body. I had grabbed her breasts and butt, but she kept her underwear on.
I did not see any sores in or on her mouth as it was a dark lit room. However, I will note that it seemed as though she had an abundant amount of saliva.
About a week after this incident, I engaged in unprotect sex with my partner. We had sex everyday we were together, so we had sex on days 7-11 post possible exposure.
About 1 (the last time we had sex) - 4 (the first time we had sex since my encounter) days after my partner began experiencing swollen lymph nodes in her inguinal region that were painful, especially to the touch.
The nodes kept swelling for around 10-14 days. The lymph nodes have stopped swelling but the remain the large size. They do not pain her anymore unless she is walking a lot.
She was tested for STI's 7 days post exposure to me. I was tested for STI's 18 days post my encounter with massage parlor.
It has been 4 weeks this has been going on. I have no visible lesions. However, occasionally (mainly when i think about it) I feel a slight sensation at the very tip of my penis, but then when I readjust down there it will go away. It does not burn to urinate. No excessive itching. No discharge. My partner is also not experiencing any burning while urinating, has not seen any lesions. However, at about the 27-28 day mark she got cold-like symptoms. Coughing, congestion, semi complained of chest pain. No other nodes of hers are swollen. She has lost weight during all of this as well.
For me, the only possibility of transmitting an STI to her would be if I transmitted Herpes. So in order to alleviate my fears, I want to focus on my encounter, because after all, if I didn't contract anything at the parlor, then I couldn't have given her an STI (i say this because my STI test would have detected something, as I have not had another partner but her for over a year).
What are the realistic percentages of contracting herpes from this one encounter assuming she had no sores, or bleeding comes in her mouth? (I am assuming herpes couldn't be contracted on the hands because the skin is incredibly thick there.)
Now, what are my realistic chances of contracting herpes from this one encounter assuming she did have sores or bleeding gums in her mouth that I just didn't see?
My titer for my first test were 0.08 HSV 1 and 0.27 HSV 2 on the Herpeselect IgG. I am testing again this weekend which will be the 6 week mark. If my titers are negative, then I can assume safely I wasn't the cause of this I presume?
I know I have asked a lot of questions, and I have gotten a lot of really helpful answers. This is my last thread I am going to allow myself to start, because the worry is ruining my life. I am so afraid my one and only mistake in this relationship is going to cost me the one that I want to spend the rest of my life with, and not only that, I could have given a life complicating condition. Please help, I am worried sick.
Thanks
Herpes is passed through saliva not live in saliva and those that are at risk for contracting by sharing dribbling toys and such are young children whose immune systems are not yet strong but for adults contracting it by loose saliva is not an issue.
Just test and get back to us with the results. Testing at 8 weeks as an indicator and 3 months for conclusive.
I understand what you are saying here.
My question is: what are the chances of myself contracting an std if the sores were in her mouth and gave off the virus in the saliva? Or are you saying even this isn't possible?
Sorry for all the questions just trying to fully understand what you are saying?
My question is: what are the chances of myself contracting an std if the sores were in her mouth and gave off the virus in the saliva? Or are you saying even this isn't possible?
Sorry for all the questions just trying to fully understand what you are saying?
Antibodies are in the blood nothing is in saliva. Once a person contacts herpes it enters a nerve and travels to the base of the spine and waits there avoiding antibodies. At any given time (which we dont understand why totally) it travels back up a nerve and lays on the surface either as a sore or in a shedding stage. If if it were in the saliva then testing of saliva would be used to detect herpes and its not.
From my understanding, blood AND saliva both contain the virus if you are infected. I believe that Dr. HHH has said this multiple times.
Furthermore, if she herself had just recently been infected, even if she were asymptomatic, wouldnt she still be shedding the virus, and it could be present in the saliva? On the same note, if she actually did have bleeding gums or a sore in her mouth, wouldnt the virus be present in the saliva?
My question is mainly pointed at the worst case scenario: if she had the virus, and there was sores in her mouth, or she was bleeding from her gums, what would be the chances of me contracting HSV?
Furthermore, if she herself had just recently been infected, even if she were asymptomatic, wouldnt she still be shedding the virus, and it could be present in the saliva? On the same note, if she actually did have bleeding gums or a sore in her mouth, wouldnt the virus be present in the saliva?
My question is mainly pointed at the worst case scenario: if she had the virus, and there was sores in her mouth, or she was bleeding from her gums, what would be the chances of me contracting HSV?
For the simple fact that herpes is not in saliva but is a topical virus that manifests itself on the lips, that is why there needs to be direct contact.
I don't seem to be understanding you. Why don't I have a risk from the Saliva?
Obviously I did not come into direct contact with any sores, but if there were sores, or blood in her saliva, wouldnt there be a risk?
Obviously I did not come into direct contact with any sores, but if there were sores, or blood in her saliva, wouldnt there be a risk?
Since you had no risk from the saliva as you mention you can confirm your last test as conclusive that you didnot contract herpes from that affair.
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