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1751051 tn?1312730727

exposure and symptoms

I received oral sex from CSW.

Day 3 - Pulsing throbbing sensation in the lower right abdomen.

Day 8 - throbbing  dull ache in the right testicles with tingling sensation in the penis head. (continued for a week).

week 4 - mild thorbbing dull ache in the right testicles with rare tingling sensation in the penis head.

"I  never had sores, lesions in the penis."

week -6  I had a red colored pin head sized bump on right arm and on the stomach with no pain.

week - 7 - I got 2 new blisters in lower lip (I never had this recently for the past 3 years,  I have had the same kind of blisters during boyhood days)

week 9 - pin head sized red colored bump started healing and also the blisters in the lips also started healing.

when i posted this symptomps in the forum, i got a reply that these are not symptomps of herpes and i thought it may be coincidence.

when i kept reading the old archive in the forum, i got this thread.

now my school of thoughts are, my symptopms are coincidnece. because already sacreadandtired also got the same symptomps after an exposure to unprotected oral sex.


is this some thing asymptomatic herpes. I just received an oral sex for a minute. i'm not going with symptomps in the internet. i want to get it clarified with you .
I'm upset that i cannot lead a married life.

the person who started thread also not posted any thing after his last message.

please grace, can you please help me with this.

I have decided to do type Specific IGg test after three months.

can some one pleasel advice on symptoms after the exposure.

Also first time i came across a thread and i could see one more person having symptoms as me.


grace, it would be of great help. if you evaluate my symptomps.

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101028 tn?1419603004
we respond to each person's situation personally. what applies to one situation, doesn't always apply to another. I'm not going to read other posts that you've found, I'll read about your own situation and apply to that even though you've posted previously about it and received an answer.

You've had a history of mouth sores in the past. Not sure from your description if it's hsv1 orally going on or not but if you had oral herpes as a boy, you still have it and you can still have recurrences of it even if it's been awhile. These are not new mouth symptoms for you so really no reason to worry about them.

Nothing you've mentioned sounds like genital herpes going on. Hsv1 is the biggest herpes risk from receiving oral sex and if you already have that orally, it's incredibly unlikely that you'd contract it genitally from oral sex later on.

have you ever been tested for herpes before to know your own status?

grace
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1751051 tn?1312730727
urologist examination - normal
dermatologist examination - normal

diagnosed with folliculitis and treated with topical and oral. (cleaned now).

what i'm going to do the symptoms. i will not panic, if that didn't third day of the exposure.

i cant convince myself that, all the symptoms are due to something and it is coincidence with the exposure. it is exactly the third day - fourth day.

slowly moving out of this phase.
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1751051 tn?1312730727
what made me to believe that i have caught hsv2 from this oral exposure is,

my pressure in the abdominal after the third of the exposure and the symptoms described in the following site.

http://www.herpeselect.com/patient_signs.py#


tingling
itching or burning sensation
pain in the thighs, buttocks, or genital area
vaginal discharge
a feeling of pressure in the abdominal area
flu-like symptoms (which may include swollen glands, headache, muscle ache or fever)
painful or difficult urination

i had the tingling and pain in the thighs, buttocks and genital area and feeling of pressure in the abdominal area. i believed that i got hsv2. since then i imagine me living with hsv2 and getting ready for the things in the future.
i went to alternative medicine and also started taking in the second week itself.

some how, with all your help. i shut off the anxiety and stopped the medicine.
finally i have taken hsv2 out of the mind, but still having the pressure in the abdomen and tingling in the penis head and butt pain at times. i met my provider, he has no clue about this (urologist and dermatologist as well).

urine culture - normal
urine routine - normal
hiv - negative
vdrl - negative



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101028 tn?1419603004
no you won't get hsv2 from oral. In theory you could but it sheds so little orally that the odds of transmitting it to a partner are too low to even consider.

these symptoms aren't herpes related. continue to follow up on them with your medical provider as needed.  
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1751051 tn?1312730727
grace and bob,
Quest diagnostics india is doing herpeselect test.
i will be doing the test this month end. with that i will rule out the herpes.
i already checked with a urologist.

he did urine culture - every thing was normal
vdrl - non- reactive
hiv - negative.

i dont know whether urine culture will detect chlamydia, ngu, trich,

at times, i still have a throbbing pressure in the abdomen and right lower back pain and butt pain.

i cant accept that inactive to get this nerve pain and muscle pain, sharp on and off tingling in penis head, i'm a fitness freak, alternate days i do exercise and pranayama.

am i asymptomatic for classic herpes symptomps and having these pains.

grace, have you heard of any one who got hsv2 genitally from oral.

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The Euroimmun test is FDA approved and known to have similar accuracy to HerpeSelect. So you don't need to find a lab that offers the HerpeSelect test specifically - the Euroimmun is fine.

Your igG value is not "high" - anything below the negative range is...well...negative.

If you waited 3-4 months since your last exposure the results are realiable.
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101028 tn?1419603004
the test you had was negative. don't do yourself a disservice by convincing yourself these have to be herpes symptoms. return to your provider as needed to get to the bottom of things.
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1751051 tn?1312730727
grace, any idea about the igG value for hsv2 is high, is it increasing as i just completed three months post exposure.
do i have to wait for some more months ?
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1751051 tn?1312730727
i agree from the insertive oral sex exposure, i  cannot get hsv2.


i have had 7 times unprotected sex with a woman 1 year ago. my last exposure with her was  feb 2010. i never had any symptoms.  
but she had couple of boyfriends and got divorced after marriage.
i dont even know there was an infection called herpes, when i was in relationship with her.

but this insertive oral sex with the CSW gave me lot of troubles, i would under what would be the reason for the pressure in the adbomen, pelvic pain, tingling in the penis head.
all the symptoms within couple of weeks. so bit concerned and want to rule out the herpes.

when i checked with the lab about the test kit, they used. they didnt use herpeselect kit.
they used Elisa kit of Euro Immune Diagnostics.
so now the test is also not accurate now.
i have called quest india and they said they are not doing the test using herpeselect kit.
but they do outsourcing.
so i'm waiting for the appointment with them. also searching a center in india who does

hsv 1 and 2 igG antibodies using herpeselect igG assay kit.
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101028 tn?1419603004
your hsv2 is negative. no real reason to think you have genital herpes at this point.

any further symptoms, be seen promptly for further work up.
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1751051 tn?1312730727
so grace, have i done herpeselect test ?
and am i negative for hsv2 ?

am i also going to ask the technicians what antigen test kit they used to perform the test.

i googled a bit about igG and herpeselect. please correct me, if i'm wrong.

herpeselect - is patented technology by focus technologies - they provide antigen test kit to perform the test.

HerpeSelect® HSV antibody test kits.


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101028 tn?1419603004
the herpeselect is an igg test .

even the best blood tests still miss 1out of every 10 hsv1 infections. you can be seen the next time you have a lip blister for a lesion culture and typing to confirm that indeed what you think is oral herpes, really is.

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1751051 tn?1312730727
i guess, the test i have done is igG testing and  it is not herpeselect.

can you please let me know the difference between herpeselect and igG testing.

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1751051 tn?1312730727
hi grace

i got my test results.

Herpes Simplex Virus 1 igG  --- 0.38

Herpes Simplex Virus 2 igG  --- 0.74

I'm confused, how i got tested negative for HSV 1.
did my antibodies level dropped for hsv1, :(

hsv1 antibodies will not let the hsv2 antibodies detect. :(

dont know what to do. :(

i recently got two sores in the lower lips and it got healed. i missed it. but that time, i had folliculitis going on my stomach, right arm and thigh.
would that be the cause for the sores.

i thought of ending this doubt, now it leads to confusion.
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101028 tn?1419603004
I have no idea what herpes testing quest labs offer outside of the US. be sure to ask if you go there for testing. It should be the herpeselect since they own it.
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1751051 tn?1312730727
yes grace, you are cheerful. never seen anyone of our age group. so lively.
keep rocking.


would you call this test as herpes type 1 and 2 igG antibodies as HerpeSelect.
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101028 tn?1419603004
oh and yeah I am kinda perky for 109 aren't I? he he he
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101028 tn?1419603004
I can't contact on tests outside of the US except for just general comments because I don't know which tests they are using. every test is different as well labs outside of the US often report differently than they do here in the US. the world is a very big place so I just keep up to date on the tests offered here in the US.  Even just limiting myself to tests offered in the US isn't very easy.   I am a volunteer so limiting what I do is the way I've chosen to handle things. I'd feel awful if I gave someone outside of the US erroneous advice.  

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1751051 tn?1312730727
I'm glad that i have found quest diagnostics lab in India.  :)

http://www.questdiagnostics.in/quest-locations.aspx

i will be contact them and enquire about the service.
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1751051 tn?1312730727
hi grace,

i could see your comments that you cant comment about the test results of hsv type 1 and 2 antibodies igG done outside of USA.

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Herpes/Herpes-result-make-me-confuse/show/1519095

may i know the reason. i do understand that igM will not help us in anyways.
but hsv 1 and 2 antibodies igG should be the same across the world right.
they gonna look for the antibodies for these hsv viruses and give the amount of the antibodies in values.

if that is the case,  please correct me if i'm wrong. it should be the same across the world.


1) Herpes Simplex Type 1 IGG (gG) = 2894 units/ml
2) Herpes Simplex Type 2 IGG (gG) = 108 units/ml


i guess here the values given per ml (milliliter of blood). if we convert these values in the liter. the values would be like this.



1) Herpes Simplex Type 1 IGG (gG) = 2.9

2) Herpes Simplex Type 2 IGG (gG) = 0.12

i have seen the values given in decimals in some threads. if a person a values like above from test done in USA. what would be your comments.

this is just to gain knowledge, please correct if i'm wrong in my approach. by commenting about the other threads and their values.

thanks.
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1751051 tn?1312730727
yes, i could have saved money by choosing hsv2 alone.  i thought of looking at the values of the both. just for the sake of knowledge. :) like you.


i saved money and confusing by avoiding igM. i really wonder how come most of the lab technician is not aware of the name of the test.
if i say them herpeselect or captia they dont know what it is.
if i tell them herpes 1 and 2 antibodies igM/igG. they say ahh,,.
Its good that i met the herpes geek here.
i would get the results on monday, i keep you updated.

btw, grace, if a person do herpes 1 and 2 igG/igM. can we do a accurate diagnosis just by looking at the igG values and ignoring igM values.
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101028 tn?1419603004
yes the herpeselect is a type specific igg blood test.

you really could've saved momey and just got hsv2 igg testing since you already know you have hsv1 orally.
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1751051 tn?1312730727
sorry if above my post is not clear.

basically,

is HerpeSelect typespecific = HSV type 1 and 2 antibodies igG/IgM.

if igM has false results, shall we ignore igM from the results and only consider igG..

i have requested the lab technician to perform only hsv type 1 and 2 antibodies igG. because they are unaware of the name captica and herpeselect.

thanks.
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1751051 tn?1312730727
hi grace,

just a clarification about the type of test to be done.

yesterday i went to my provider to show a tiny pus pilled  bump in my inner thigh,
he examined that and said that it is follicular infection.  

i asked him to write for herpes blood test.

he prescribed hsv 1 and 2 igG/igM - As i know that igM results are not reliable. i told him.
he said that he can find it from igG results.

if they do the above mentioned test.
shall i consider the test as herpes type-specific igG as it has igG written by the doctor.

when i went to the lab, i asked them to do igG alone NOT igM. the pathologist agreed.
i also told her about the captia test for herpes.she said she is not aware of that.
what they do is herpes antibodies test for type 1 and 2.
today evening i will be getting the results. i keep you posted.
can you please let me know, will these test results help me to find out my status.

thanks :) for making me to deal the situation with a calm attitude.
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1751051 tn?1312730727
Thanks grace and mistakeguy for your knowledge and support.
an one time senseless mistake caused all these troubles and pains.
at times at repent for the mistake i have done. because i was just about to get married. now i have postponed everything because of this issue.

grace, i will be back with my captia blood test report on september 15.

i pray god with fingers crossed. :(

thanks again.


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