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just diagnosed Herpes 2

I just got back my results. My fiance broke up with me in May 07. we had unprotected sex for the year we were together. I knew he had Herpes1 just becasue one time he had a cold sore. He did not take medication and we did not talk about it. In July 07 I had protected intercourse with a man and unprotected oral sex twice with him. That is it. I have not had any sex since then. Now I have been diagonosed with Genital Herpes (2) and I am negative for Herpes 1. I figure I got it from the oral or the protected sex with this one man. It makes me feel very hurt that I thought that using a condom would make me safe and yet I was at risk. WHen they called me with the test results they told me that  it means I have had it for at least six months. So there is no way for me to know really if I got it from this "encounter" or from my former fiance ( but I doubt it). Anyway what to do now and how and when do I tell a future partner?
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as long as anyone have sex no matter who you love that person are having herpes virus. There really are a cure for it but those greedy pharma aren't giving out. my friend is a physicians he told me. wish them all goes to hell one day.
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I recently found out on my birthday that i have genital herpes from a guy that i was in a relationship with for a year. Now he is with ANOTHER girl, and im pretty sure he didnt tell her that he has herpes. I really dont know how to feel. I cant express how Blessed i am about not having anything more severe like HIV or cancer or something. But at the same time, DAMN, how the hell did i get herpes? Im only 18 & just recently started college. How am i suppose to go on knowingly reminded that  I HAVE HERPES. How can i tell a man this? Not to toot my own horn , but im pretty good looking (so Ive heard) how can i feel like a REAL woman knowing the only thing that makes me a women is now broken? I understand the severity of Herpes (which really isnt that bad) but try explaining that to a 19,20.21 year old. There not going to put their sexual health at risk. I cant blame them tho. I wouldnt say because a man doesnt want to be with me means he doesnt care enough for me. If you were given the choice, wether or not to contract the virus your first answer would be NO!" I like you, but i cant put myself at risk." is what i hear all the time. I just feel like my dating life is over. I cant go around telling everyone that i have this embrassing condition. Guys arent going to hear the part about theres a one percent chance you could catch it. But whats 1-2%?? i take valtex 500 mg everyday. I KNOW not tomhave sex while an OB. and im most DEF using a condom! But why do all kf this when the chances of me even getting a guy are slim to none.but No guy is going to love me fully knowing i have herpes. I honestly think only older people, or couples that both have herpes have relationships. But what about the 19 year old in college that has no one? What am i to do?
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I did the blood tests and am negative for Herpes1 and positive for Herpes2. He said I had it for at least six months. My sore inside my mouth is not bad, nor noticeable.It just feels like an allergy or something coming on, then there is a blister. it does not get festered nor is it on the outside of the upper lip like H1 which I have seen on my ex fiance and many others. WE call them cold sores and nobody thinks much about it really. It is so common. My fiance never said..>I hvea herpes. he just said...oh I have a cold sore, so dont kiss me.I did not think about it as herpes and it only came out one time in the whole year we dated.

I had only one single protected intercourse with condom. Oral happened twice. Only one time did he ejaculate inside my mouth. I dont think it is the semen that carries herpes so probably that does not matter.

Well most people will start to look on the internet and the images there are horrific. My episode did not look like that. I have a guy I met on match that lives in California. I am in the Caribbean. He is alrady suggesting coming all the way here to meet me. Is it fair for me to not tell him before he comes? For me, it is just too early as until we meet, I dont even know if it is chemistry and I want him to get a chance to know me, so he just not just discard me because of my herpes status.

I feel some men may feel it is unfair not to say it from the outset, but I feel it is a very private issue and should only come up if it you do want to take the next step.

Yes I will practice with my friend. He loves me dearly and so I dont have to feel afraid and it will be a good way to test a reaction . He is an older man and will be very clueless.

Lucky for you that you have a wonderful man who cares for you and you can be as sexual as you want to be. I am a very sexual person and I dont want that to change.
That is why I think suppressives will be best for me.

So when you are on suppressives, if you dont feel any symptoms, you can go ahead with unprotected sex ( explaining to the parther there is some minimal risk ) right?
I think Herpes 1 is more acceptable to others than Herpes 2. Just the word Genital herpes makes it seem dirty somehow. Makes one feel cheap.

And you can kiss someone at all times ( like even if you have an outbreak butit is only on the genitals) without having to worry right?

Thanks for all your help. Though I am not angry and I am not stressed, questions come to mind and it is very comforting to talk to someone who has been there.

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You should get any mouth lesions cultured to see if they are actually type 2 or really type 1 (which is more common in the mouth).

Suppressives should prevent many  outbreaks, but doesn't always prevent outbreaks 100%, although it can. (It does in my case--I have no symptoms at all on medication, including prodromal symptoms. But I've never had oral symptoms even though I'm HSV1+.)

You don't want to kiss anybody with a mouth sore, no matter what kind of sore it is. Bacteria from the *other* person's mouth can get into your sore and cause problems, and if it is herpetic, you could infect the other person.

My understanding of contracting oral herpes is that it's difficult to get from giving head, whether it's type 1 or type 2. Is it possible you had type 1 going back years and just didn't know it? That's the case with many people, and unless you had been type tested for it in the remote past, you can't really know how long you've had it.

If outbreaks bother you, you should probably go on suppressive medication. It's helpful not to be having outbreaks as you deal with having herpes emotionally, and it should cut down on the numbers of outbreaks you have, whether oral or genital. (Although the medication is used primarily for type 2.)

I think telling your friend is a good idea. It doesn't matter if he's male or female - just the act of telling will be psychologically beneficial for you. (And you might as well practice!) You should not treat telling someone as a "confession."  It should be a calm discussion between the two of you about STDs in general, getting tested, etc. You should ask them to share their STD status and testing status with you, and you share yours.

I just don't think it's anything to be ashamed of. Viruses happen. I think you will find that most men are very understanding of it. The guy I'm dating now didn't know squat - and I mean squat - about herpes when we met. Totally clueless. Praticing very unsafe sex with partners before me. Just completely in the dark about it. And we screw with abandon and are very active sexually (when we see one another--we have a geography problem between us). It doesn't faze him. We have other issues, of course, because you will find that herpes is the least of your problems once you are in a relationship with somebody. Really.
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Grace can you give me some input on what to do about Herpes 2 inside the mouth?
Everythng I have read says you only get Herpes from Sexual contact but it does not mention from Kissing. but if i have an open sore inside my mouth (I get blisters inside the upper lip) then if I kiss someone, wouldnt I pass it on? So if that is so, then couldnt I have contracted this from kissing and oral sex if the other person perhaps had a lesion and I did not see it? I cannot find much information on this and what to use to heal it.  When I look up mouth sores I find info only for Herpes 1. Thanks.
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Well said. I guess I needed to hear it. I am not in any relationship now and I really feel, as hard as it is, I will have to tell the person as keeping such a huge secret would eat me up inside anyway. I am a very honest person, but no one likes the idea of rejection and there is a huge social stigma.  So it will take a lot of couarge, but I have courage. I can do this.

I got an outbreak today in my mouth. So that is why I feel I contacted it by that unprotected oral sex.  To me that means I cannot even kiss someone then? It seems to already be going away (had it before and usually lasts less than 24 hours and it is not at all visible on the outside of my mouth or on my lips is in Type 1).

That is why I think suppressive would be better for me. What do you think? If I have an open blister and kiss someone, then they will get it from me right? No where really states you can get herpes from kissing at all. I guess having Herpes2 inside the mouth is not at all common then? Sigh. ALso you cannot use any of the medications for cold sores for inside the mouth, so Iam not sure what I can use.

Suggestions welcome.

I have a good friend of mine who has always been in love with me. I am not in love with him and we hvae never been intimate but are very close friends. I was wondering if perhaps I told him and got his reaction, it might be a good way to at least try it out. He would be confidential and it would not affect our friendship. I think I might try that this weekend. If he says he would still want me anyway, then at least I will feel more confident when I speak to someone new that I do care for.
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"No chance of having a man in your life" if you have HIV? Think again. There are tons of discordant couples all over the place - discordant for herpes, discordant for HIV, discordant for hepatitis, discordant for combinations of those and other illnesses, disorders, and challenges, whether gay, straight, or bisexual. When two folks hook up and really hit if off and care about one another, they'll make it work.

I find it morally repugnant that you would "keep the information" to yourself. Going on suppressive medication does not make your partner's risk zero. It is a very low risk, but it is not zero. That is a decision your partner has to make about whether to take that risk with you or not. At least respect them enough to give them the opportunity to know this about you. How they handle it, what they do with the information is out of your control. By withholding your herpes status from your partner, you are making a decision that *you* are more important than the *two of you* together. That's pretty selfish, in my book. Think back on whether you would have wanted such information before going into a sexual relationship. Do unto others, and all.

The responses I've had from men I've dated have been overwhelmingly positive. A few of them were stunned that I told them at all. The majority of folks will apprciate your honesty, frankly.

And withholding the information feeds into the social stigma that there is something wrong with you, something that needs to be "hidden."  
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What is difficult for you about dating? Are you able to have a discussion about STDs and risks together with your partner?
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I contracted Herpes but have never had a breakout on my Penis. The breakouts I have are on the little patch of skin between my belt line and my penis. It doesn't even matter if I where a condom or not. So, if you have the STD. then that could have been a way that you contracted Herpes. But, I agree with waringblender, no need in looking backwards.
I have a hard time dating and if anyone has any advise on that, please help.
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Thank you for the time.

I feel very calm as I take very good care of my body and know it well, so when I saw that bump and felt that tingling and it would not heal, I knew something was wrong. Research told me what it was. I found sxcheck so I could do a test confidentially and it came back positive. THey called me and also were surprised at my reaction. I had already reconciled myself to the results. Sxcheck said I can call them when I have the3 next outbreak and they will send a prescription to a pharmacy nearby which I think is great for me, as thenI dont have to see a doctor.  I am not in the USA now but I will do that as soon as I am there, as I want to have a supply always on hand.

I am communicating through match.com with four nice men and plan to meet them soon.
So now I have this news, I am not sure what to do with it. Honestly I want to go on suppressive and keep this information to myself. I just cannot imagine telling someone this and being rejected. One of them is a doctor.

I got a sore inside my mouth today. It was a blister. So I really feel I got it from that one off encounter (two times oral sex and one protected intercourse). I had asked him to take an HIV test and then he got evasive and we stopped communicating. Somethiing tells me that though the odds were slim, taht perhaps he had an herpes outbreak and just got carried away ( as I did) and could not stomach to tell me after. Not nice, but such is life. Nothing can turn back the clock.

My sister died of AIds two years ago. So I always am careful about that and really you dont get HIV from oral sex, so I really thought I was being safe. I really did not know much about herpes. I am not going to stress myself as this seems like something that is manageable and it could have been worse. Aids is horrible and then there would be no chance for a new man in my life. So I consider myself lucky. It has been six months and I have done two HIV tests so I know I am okay but even so I did not take the risks associated with HIV to really worry.

So I feel I let down my sister who always said to stay safe. I feel I let down my moral standards by having a casual affair because of my depression, but overall I feel I hve learned a big lesson the hard way. I want to find a way to be a sounding board for people in my island home, as I am sure there are hundreds like me and many just need someone to talk to. I will find a way to serve in that capacity.

My only fear right now, is telling a partner.

Do you want to hear something that is VERY strange? My best friend called me yesterday. She is a Christian and she has fallen in love with this wonderful man. She said she had something to tell me that she has never shared with anyone. She told me. I have Herpes. I said...oh you mean cold sores. she Said...no I have had genital herpese since 1988. I got it from my ex husband. I never had symptoms for 10 years but I have it monthly now. So she is telling me that she told her new boyfriend and he is going to work with her through it as he loves her, but he is upset that she never told him earlier (they have been intimate but only orally and she was sure she was okay those times).
ANyway he is okay with it. At that same time, my overseas cell phone rings and it is SXcheck saying my results are positive. Is that wierd or divine intervention or what was that? We have been friends for about 17 years and she never told me. And now she is telling me on the same day and within 10 mins of telling me ,a nd while she is on the phone I get my news?  So I did share my news with her. I wont tell anyone else.

If I loved a man, I would love him regardless but I am a very passionate woman and I would hate to fele that the man cannot make love to me, just because he is afraid. We will  not have a good relationship.

I just feel if  I go on suppressives, then I can be more in control of my sexuality and return to a "normal" life and not have to worry about it.
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People always want to look backwards to figure out where and when they got it. I think personally that that is rather unproductive myself. If you have it, you have it. Once you are certain (via blood testing) that you have it, you need to move forward and just take care of your health and learn as much as you can about it so you can protect future partners if you have to. Placing blame, trying to figure it all out, reconstructing a "time line," or whatever other gyrations you want to go through to relive the past and figure it all out always sounded like a waste  of time to me.  

I was actually advised by my doctor not to start medication when I found out I had it. He wanted me to see how many or even if I had any outbreaks in the future, because I guess a lot of people just don't have any symptoms. Turns out I don't need medication unless I have a negative sex partner (which seems to be every fricking guy I meet! Where are the positive  guys?!?). So I use daily suppressive therapy when I'm getting laid, otherwise I don't bother because I don't have enough symptoms to warrant it.

That westover book is pretty badly edited from what I've seen. Too bad they can't spend any money for a decent editor. You can also learn a ton of stuff just perusing the doctor side of the STD forum. Those two doctors there really know their stuff, and they have a  cool attitude about herpes in general.

LIke I said, type 2 is REALLY common. I can't get a read from your posts how you are feeling about knowing you have it, but you sound a lot more levelheaded than some people who post here who don't even put themselves at risk for it! You'll be fine. The "telling" part can be a little unnerving, but you'll see that most men are really accepting of it, especially if you tell them you use medication to protect them. Good luck.
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Prostate..of course. It was a typo. sorry.

You are right. I guess it is harder not knowing when or how long I have had it.

Thanks.
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First of all, just because he had genital herpes doesn't mean he would be using medication. So "not seeing medication" in his house means nothing. And just because he was aware of his type 1 on his mouth doesn't mean he also was aware he had type 2. 90% of people walking around with it don't even know they have it because their symptoms are so mild, or they have no symptoms at all.

How you "feel" about your partner  has nothing to do with basic biology and transmission of viruses. If you and your partner never got tested for type 2, then you truly can't say you knew he was negative. Sorry. It's possible you both had it when you hooked up, he had it and passed it to you, or you already had it and could have passed it to him.  

Being with a professional sex worker also means nothing in terms of having herpes. Generally, sex workers are probably safer partners overall than folks in the general population because they practice safe sex more regularly.

It's prostate, not "prostrate."
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I am reading the Herpes handbook that is on the Westhover clinic site. It says a symptom is a reoccuring urinary tract infection. I Have had that from Sept 2006 as I am looking back on the prescription. I started dating my ex fiance in May 2006. But I just dont feel I got it from him. THough he never brought up about having Herpes1, a lot of people dont think it is a big deal when they have a cold sore. In fact the first and only time I noticed him with the cold sore, and he said dont kiss me, I said honey I will kiss you anyway as I never thought about what it could mean. We did not kiss anyway and a week later it was gone. He had prostrate cancer and was very sexually inexperienced. I know he had been with a hooker at some point in the past, but he was always pretty open. THe only meds he had was for his athletes foot and his viagra and that was it. if he had herpes I should have seen some meds, or some signs of something, but I never did.

I recall shortly after my short relationship that I saw two small blisters. I wondered what they were but they went away and caused no pain. I Also inside my mouth, the soft tissue in my jaw, I would feel like I was getting a rash, or an allergy or an sore, but then it would just go away. I never thought about herpes as nothing came out on my lips like I see in the photos.

I guess I just wonder if I really had it all this time or I got it from this short experience when I thought I was beign safe. But I was being concerned about HIV.

I got tested for HIV twice now since that encounter, including again now and it was negative.



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I think it's pretty unlikely you got type 2 from one encounter of protected intercourse. I'm not sure how you think you could contract type 2 from oral sex?? Did he have oral type 2 on his mouth?  That would be really rare as well.  

Sounds more likely that you got it from the guy you had the unprotected sex with in the longer relationship. Or maybe you even had it before that guy. Who knows? If the ex-fiance never got tested for type 2, there's no way to know if he had it or not.

Figure out what your outbreak pattern is going to be, then if you want to control it, you can use suppressive medication. You tell future partners when you are comfortable telling them. I usually tell my potential partners when it appears we both want to move forward with a sexual relationship. Otherwise, there's no reason for them to know about it. I've had very good outcomes with telling partners about it. I always insist that we both get tested, and these guys always come up negative for type 2, and they still want to sleep with me (or worse: some of them even want relationships with me).

Type 2 is really common. About 1 out of 4 sexually active people has it. The chances are good you'll meet future partners who either already have it, or who have some experience with it because they've already had partners with it, or they have friends with it or whatever. It's just not that big a deal. It certainly hasn't affected my life negatively.  
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