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In 2003 I had a positive HPV test high risk strain that caused abnormal cells. The conditon was monitored and paps came back normal for 6 years. I am recently divorced and recently had a baby to someone else. At my follow up for baby my pap came back abnormal and colposcopy and biopsy show CIN 1. they wouldlike to perform a LEEP. I am 36 yrs. old. My question is, Is this caused by the original infection or is possible that I acquired a new infection from my new partner? If so, is this something he aquired recently ordoes it lie dormant in men as well? I know they say change in hormones such as having a baby can activate it but being that my paps were normal for six years, I am wondering if this is a new infectio and when I acquired it. Any help appreciated. Also info about LEEP procedure is helpful and if I have the surgery will that rid it or do I always have to worry about getting it again? Please expalin why it is not possible to continue to pass this back and forth. Also in order to aquire it from a man they must have it so how long does it remain with thm and stay active in order for them to pass it to someone? I am very confused by all of this.
So many questions! I'll try to answer as many as I can.
"My question is, Is this caused by the original infection or is possible that I acquired a new infection from my new partner?"
There are so many (over 100) types of HPV that it's very possible that this is a new infection with a different strain acquired from your new partner. It is also possible that your old strain was reactivated. There are strenuous ways to find out what strain someone is infected with, however, labs don't routinely inquire as to what strain a person is infected with when they present with abnormal PAP smears. Your doctor would know of local services where he could send your results to test for what type of HPV you have, however, this will be extremely expensive and I'm most positive that it won't be covered by insurance.
Pregnancy often times temporarily lowers a womans immune system, and rightly so. The lowered immune system helps a womans body to not attack the fetus - as half of that fetus has a different genetic makeup than her own and so is considered foreign. Your immune system may have lowered while the old HPV strain was trying to reactivate itself - thus making it possible to present with a current infection.
"is this something he aquired recently ordoes it lie dormant in men as well?"
There is just no way, as of current supported technology, to determine if a man is infected with the same types of HPV that cause a woman to present with cervical dysplasia. He may have recently picked it up, or may have carrying this strain for decades. Unfortunately, even through careful detective work, trying to trace back infections in his previous girlfriends (if he knows their history) isn't always accurate. He may have picked it up from 5 girlfriends ago, and the previous 4 didn't show it because a) they were already infected with the same strain and built immune bodies to it b) they may be carrying it and haven't had the strain activated yet c) it wasn't passed to them for whatever reasons (maybe they used good protection, altho even that isn't a sure fire way to protect yourself). These are just a few explanations, and others exist.
"I am wondering if this is a new infectio and when I acquired it."
Viruses are so tricky, and not easily predictable. The HPV viruses MOST COMMONLY have an incubation period of 2 yrs. This means that from the time you acquire the infection to the time you initially break out is approx 2 yrs. However, there are reports of longer incubation periods - up to 10yrs and perhaps even longer. HPV is a relatively newly studied virus, so current medical technology isn't as accurate about it as it is with other STD's.
"info about LEEP procedure is helpful and if I have the surgery will that rid it or do I always have to worry about getting it again?"
I don't have any info about the LEEP procedure other than what I'm sure you already know. However, a reason why this is preformed is to remove infected tissue. Sometimes, this can eradicate your current infection altogether (pray for this result!) and other times, repeated LEEPs are in order. There are reports that LEEP's and colposcopy's may help remove the infected tissue, and patients never report another infection.
As I said before, this is still a relatively newly studied STD and women who have had a positive HPV exam will never ever again be considered low risk. They will always be high risk, requiring them to have more frequent pap smears than the low risk woman who has never had an infection. High risk groups are required (absolute must) to have a pap every year, whereas the national guidelines for a monogamous woman who has never had an abnormal pap and has had 3 normal paps in a row needs only have a pap every 2-3yrs, although getting one every year isn't a bad idea.
"Please expalin why it is not possible to continue to pass this back and forth."
Passing STD's back and forth only apply to those that are caused by a bacteria/living organisms. This includes Gonorrhea, Chlamydia, syphilis, trichomonas, as well as others. Viruses on the other hand, are a different story. These are made up of small parts of DNA that are capable to burrowing into your own cells and your own DNA and waiting until they randomly decide to attack. If your body has made immune bodies against the virus, then your body can destory your own infected cells. For the most part, and this isn't true with EVERY virus but it is for most, once your are infected with the virus, you are infected for life.
For the HPV virus, infection in men and women differ. As far as we know, women are able to 'erradicate' the virus, and men are not. The viruses that cause cervical dysplasia causes an immune reaction within the womans body and the woman (most times) is able to detect and destroy the infected cells until they, for the most part, no longer exist and cannot be found within the vaginal walls. Therefore, she won't spread it again, UNLESS a cell that was previously inactivately infected and escaped detection decides to activate and cause an infection. She can then spread it to a partner. Men on the othe hand will ALWAYS be carriers, and never infected. The HPV virus that causes cervical dysplasia does minimal if anything to the man penis - yet is ready to infect anyone he ever has sex with, most likely for the rest of his life. This is why it is SO important for not just women to be scared and weary of this virus, but men as well.
very informative^ i read everything and now know more..not only for protection for my own health but to be aware to help teach my daughter as she gets older..i would like to add though..you should get a pap once a year..if you find out u are positive for hpv (in which u are checked routinely once turning 30+) you will need to be seen ever 6 months..2 paps a year to keep close eye on hpv..eat right..exercise..get ur immune system strong so ur body can fight this/put it to sleep..thanks!!!
hey everyone. I'm a 19 year young girl who just recently found out i had hpv I'm terrified because i also am engaged and contracted it while my fiance was in jail! what i'm curious about how will we be able to have kids if i have this?i have to wear a condom to protect him which doesn't help with the kids part! I'm so scared i don't have insurance so i haven't got any information all i know is that i have high risk and it causes cancer but i don't know anything else or what to do! CAN SOMEBODY PLEAS PLEASE HELP ME!
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