Thoughts on Apple Cider Vinegar Cure and Shaving with Genital Warts

[AMB1986]

Dr. HHH,

I am a 22 year old male who is sexually active and have obtained Genital Warts and muliscum contagiosis. I started noticing small bumps on the shaft of my penis 4-5 months ago. I went to see my local STD clinic Dr. and she said I had genital warts. She crygenically froze them off and explained to me that they may or may not come back. They did, and I went back a second time. The second time she told me she also saw that I had minor muliscum contagiosis and froze them as well. 3 weeks Later I am overly consumed by this and feel as if though I am tainted forever.

Since my last visit they have come back again and have me really upset. I looked online and read of natural remedies where people SWEAR by apple cider vinegar for genital warts and muliscum contagiosis. They stated that you dip acv with a cotton ball and put it on the wart infected area and sleep. Do this 3 day in a row and the warts and muliscum contagiosis will go black and fall off. So far I have tried this one night and will do the other 3. What are your thoughts on this?

Lastly, I shave mostly my whole body for sports because I have to tape my legs for football  and I also hate hair on my body, so I shave my whole body including my pubic area. Is it ok to shave with a razor or will I simply be spreading the warts everywhere? I have heard that it can from some and from others that it makes no difference and there is nothing that proves that it can be spread by shaving. If shaving is bad how would waxing work? I just simply would hate the thought of having a hairy pubic region.

Thank you for your time, it is greatly appreciate.

-AMB

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[jazzermerazz]

wiping it on is not enough, you have to soak it, then tape it down, leave it on for about 2 hours, then take it off, and wash it.  if it does on turn black after a day, do it again.  be careful not to leave it on to long, as it can burn your skin given to much time.  Some say over night is ok, but it can give you severe burns.  Best to use it for about 2-3 hours max.  Just brushing it on, is not enough.

[marta143]

TCA is now known to be a carcinogen. It's linked to liver cancer in lab rats and has shown "evidence of both genetic and cellular damage in human subjects."

Warts are already changing your cellular structure, I wouldn't add a cancer causing agent in a high concentration on top of that. It can be absorbed through the skin according to the article:

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/25/a-warning-on-chemical-peels/

[gregbrady]

I forgot to mention. There is absolutely no scarring or "holes" on the skin when using TCA. Thats what I like about it. No spots or anything. You would never know a wart was ever there. But with freezing, there is always a scar. There should be no doctors doing that anymore.

[gregbrady]

I do swear by ACV for a lot of things. But I use TCA to get rid of an HPV outbreak. There is nothing better. But because it is highly dangerous to use TCA, some people are afraid of it. Its an acid that will destroy skin cells IMMEDIATELY after contact. Even if you wash it off, the skin cells will die. This is scarier if you are using 100% strength. But on Ebay, you can buy a small bottle of 50% TCA medical grade for less than $10 total. All you do is take the lid off, dip a q-tip down into it. Spin the q-tip on the inside of the bottle to get out excess and to "pointen" the tip. Then just carefully dab the "wet" onto the wart a couple times. It will almost immediately turn white. Repeat process to do the next wart. once you are done, rinse off the end of the q-tip and throw it into the trash can. Carefully tighten lid back on bottle. And put it inside a sealed container and store it FAR OUT OF REACH. Check warts the next day to make sure they are turning black. If there are any that aren't, then apply it to ONLY those again. It is highly unlikely that you will need to apply a third time.

Usually they don't come back for awhile, if ever. The problem is that you can't always see where there is a wart. They aren't always so obvious until they have gotten big enough. Have to wonder which government of the world caused HPV. It seems like these nasty things are man-made. Just like HIV.

[houstonpatty]

being infected with genital warts is tough, not to mention the mental stress and physical stress in trying to get rid of them. a relative who is an OB-GYN suggested that i tried Wartscide. after three days of application, my warts darkened and they just fell off. it's really effective. i always have a spare bottle just in case they come back but so far there are none.

[lifegoeson1985]

do i have to do the cotton ball thing? can i just use a qtip and wipe the acv to the wart? im a female and im afraid it will get inside me and make me sick and hurt my insides...plzzzz help....thnx

[Sweets9790]

i worrried bout the same thing when mine popped up i had it for like 6 months now...and i hate beeing all hairy down ther as well, plus imma girl dont need all that down ther... i dont think u shud use apple cider vinegar, the smell of it just makes me think it will hurt of at least make u smell...*** for teh shaving i dont think u shud until the warts are gone cuz u mite cut urself then gett all infected and what not.....so i suggest just trim until its gone that wat i did and even now that nuttings there i use a different shaver top down there then the rest of my body just in case

[lving4today]

You can't "check your immune system" and there's no point in getting it "typed" if it's genital warts. Cancer of the penis is very rare and since he mentioned warts, it's not high risk, it's low risk.

There's no possible way to figure out who he got it from. I suggest reading up a bit more on the subject.

[1centwiz]

My 1cent, check your immune system and get your wart virus typed. There are class/types that are harder to get rid of, some that have been proven to be pre-canerous and if you are having sex, condoms will not prevent viruses from passing though. They are much smaller than sperm cells which the condom was created to stop. Plus you have the % of condoms that don't work at all...
Be a hero, don't spread this STD to others. Try and figure out where you got it and tell that person. For some women, they don't know they are spreading it because they may or may not have external symptoms.

[alexdelong]

Please see a doctor about your warts.  

[MedFuller]

The ACV will technically work and has worked for me.  Let me explain why and what you need to work out for.  As I'm sure you know warts are a virus that basically change the cell structure and if the cell structure and cause them to grow abnormally (which is basically the same as cancer, but slightly different).  Cancer will spread more rapidly, but warts are considered cancer in certain very mucusy areas of the body that are very sensitive (such as the cervix), i.e. why you hear that HPV causes cervical canser.

Now that being said, why ACV works is that it is a acid / Vinegar.  Toppically if you use it for long enough periods of time it will pretty much kill all skin it comes in contact with.  This is acctually what you want.  Because you can't find anything that will only kill the effected skin and not the regular skin.  But by putting it on topically you can focus the destruction in the correct area.  (Just like cancer, any therapy they use either cuts it out and all the surounding skin, or kills the area and causes other cells to be destroyed as well untill the deseased cells are all killed off and they stop the treatment and the healthy cells now re-produce and you healed, hopefully).  That is  why cancer and warts are so hard to kill.

Now that being said, you can also kill warts through internally taking ACV, the ACV basically works from the bloodstream killing the virus that causes the warts, and once the virus is dead normally (but not always, which is why you get conflicting reports on if ACV works internally) the damaged cells stop re-producing other damaged cells and the healthy cells take over the damaged ones and the warts dissapear.

Now the IMPORTANT part.  ACV should be used very carefully!!  Taking ACV internally is still taking a fairly strong acid internally and WILL damage your intestinal tract.  In small doses the cells that are damaged by the ACV will simply be replaced as fast as they are destroyed, but in larger doses the cell regeneration can not keep up and you will seriously damage your intestinal tract.  So if you are using ACV to treat warts internally you should only use it long enough to make sure you killed the warts, and DON'T TAKE TOO MUCH to try and decrease the time it takes to kill the warts.  Although just taking the ACV untill you no longer see the wart is probably not long enough to kill the wart due to the fact that there are still infected cells on a microscopic level that you would never be able to see.  This is the reason they always seem to "come back" when really they never left they were just so small you couldn't see them.

Using ACV on the outside.  It will kill the warts, but leave you with "holes" in your skin where the wart was.  You also have to leave the ACV on the skin for long period of time (hence the cotton ball filled with it), so the infected cells aren't re-producing faster than you are killing them.  Remember you are trying to kill that entire area of skin, prettymuch all the way down to the bottom layer.  This is also why it is MUCH harder to get rid of genital warts using this method rather than if you only had one on your finger.  The genital area is VERY sensitive and has MANY blood vessels and nerve ending that can be damaged by the use of ACV.  Remembering that the same applys for the topical use that there will be microscopic cells still alive you can't see, which is why you have to continue use even after the wart appears to be all black.

In short you will be doing just as good as the doctor can do, but unlike the doctor you won't have the training to tell whether or not you are damaging more vital body functions than need be.  You are taking place of the doctor, and I have seen others damage themselves horribly by doing just that.  (But I've also seen some idiot doctors do the same thing).  Also remember that the doctor has been trained, and had to go through 10 years of training!  So most of them are better qualified than you are.  That being said, some doctors are really good at memorizing things and thats how they made it through medical school, so basically you get a computer analysing you and telling you treatments you can try, but not really understanding the desease.  Basically doctors should be respected for what they have had to go through to get to where they are, but there are good and bad doctors, the hard part is figuring out which one you have.  So BE CAREFULL!!  And make sure you understand why things are working before you start them.  

The risk factors is the reason most doctors say just wait the 1 TO 10 YEARS for them to go away on their own!!  Because unless they are on a vital area (such as the cervix) then they are simply an ugly mark and they are simply worried about your acctual physical health.  (They will go away eventually because the virus will someday run it coarse and die off.  When?  No one knows.)

Ok, now as for shaving / waxing ect.  All of these methods can cause very small amounts of bleeding.  Bleeding = fluid moving through the invected cells causing the blood to become infected by the virus, then flowing to new uninfected cells and infecting them.  So yes, shaving, waxing or any other method of hair removal WILL cause them to spread.  Warts are just a pain like that.  

Hope this helps.  :)

[SwingOnTheSpiral]

hey, just thought I might put my two cents in. For a period of about a year I was seeing a doctor once a month to get my warts removed. Every time he zapped them away, the would resurface shortly after. I did research and found a decent remedy that's been helping me a lot. There are two supplements you can take, along with ACV treatments that will help you fight the warts better than anything else

100,000 UI of beta-carotene a day, usually split up in the morning and at night
3mg of Folic Acid also split up during the day and night

At night I rip off the ends of q-tips then soak them in apple cider vinegar, place them on the wart and cover it in sports tape. The next morning the wart is a white color and can be easily taken off. Cover genitals completely with hydrogen peroxide (this will help to prevent spreading warts elsewhere) wait for this to dry then put neosporin on the warts.

Note: Tea tree oil and aloe vera also work well to treat certain viruses. When you get the warts to go away it might help you prevent new breakouts if you work these into your daily routine somehow, maybe cover your genitals in tea tree oil at night after washing right before bed.

[alexdelong]

This is the community forum. The doctors do not post here and to contact them you need to post your questions in the expert forum. There is a fee for using that service.

Reading through a lot of their posts, I can say that the doctors don't seem too enthusiastic about folk remedies. They usaully recommend following your doctor's advice.

Unfortunately warts often will come back after treatment, but eventually your body's immune system should be able to handle the infection. Most infections are cleared in less than a year, but others can take longer.

Why not go for a close trim while the warts are present. Shaving over a wart could cause a painful cut!