chances of contracting HPV

I went to a swingers club and had received oral sex with a condom from a married female who is a regular.I also had vaginal sex with her with a condom.It was dark and I couldn't tell if she had any warts or anything.I asked her husband if she had anything and he said "No.If she did we wouldn't be here"I know that there's a chance of contracting  hpv but how great are the chances if she was infected?

[empathy60]

HPV is extremely contagious, and almost inevitable if you're a sexually active adult.  While those who have overt warts are believed to be more contagious than those who carry HPV but don't have visible symptoms, the virus can still be transferred through sexual activity if the person is still in a contagious state.  However, in time the virus goes latent and becomes extremely difficult to transmit to partners.  Some people don't catch HPV using a condom with an infected partner with no visible symptoms.  I wasn't so lucky, I caught HPV from an asymptomatic partner using a condom- so it does happen.  There are accurate statistics and figures in the expert forum regarding transmission risks, I'd check it out.

[ibizan]

right on Empathy! plus one can have their warts burned off but the virus allegedly remains acitive in the skin for approximately 6-12mos.Skin areas are inclusive of thighs buttocks all areas surrounding the genitals-areas not covered by a condom.

[mayflowers]

If you go to swinger clubs, then for sure you and everyone there has or has had a few different strains of HPV.  3 partners and you've been exposed.  I double too many vaccinated virgins go to swinger clubs LMFAO.

[MSilva]

how do you know if your male partner has HPV?  if it's not even tested/detected for in males?  this is scary!

[mayflowers]

There is no test for men unless they have visual genital warts.  

I hope this guy isn't just worried about HPV, he should be worried about other STI's as well.  Swinging sex is very risky sex.

[MSilva]

I don't have a swinging life style.  I think after reading this forum, I am going to try and abstain from the once in awhile flings I tend to have.  Should I not be worried about HPV?  I am concerned about my girlfriend, and if I can't be tested, isn't it not fair to her that I might give her a high-risk strain?  Aren't you ladies concerned about that?  I am just really confused right now.  I also was tested about 3 months ago, and everything came out clean.

[ibizan]

I don't understand this swinging stuff....why marry if ur gonna do a zillion folks????in this day and age with all the std's its too risky plus i've always wondered what kind of man/woman r u if u watch others have sex with ur hub/wife?JEEZ! i know each to their own.i've never been a flingy girl.....caught high risk HPV after being celibate 10 years!what a Murphy's Law of life!i haven't been sexual with anyone in approaching 2 years.Too scared of getting HPV again and having to go thru another LEEP not to mention whatever else i could get.....and sorting thru the liars and fools out there is something i've neither the energy or youth 2 do anymore!If i do get in2 a relationship again i will know the person for a LONG time...a LONG time...this entire xperience has changed my perception on a lotta things in life and how careful i must be.The docs say oh don't let this stop u from having sex and a full sex life.......well dude u have a 18 inch copper wire up u shot with electricity burning ur insides out then for a month the rest comes out that is dead burned black cervical skin.MSilva if u want to lessen ur risk of HPV be monogomous and use condoms and be open with ur partner about anything u've had and she should b likewise with u!health is important and xpensive to maintain!thank god i had good insurance........a LEEP alone minus colps biopsies and follow up paps was 2 grand!Oh yes i remain very concerned about myself!i have a peace of mind with how safe i am.

[MSilva]

Sorry to hear about your experience.  I think you have me confused with the original poster of this thread.  I do not swing.  I am totally with you on finding that one right person, and I hope this will make me realize things a little more.  Can you please answer my questions though.  If men can't be tested for HPV, how can you tell someone if they aren't even testing for it?  

I am concerned because I have a girlfriend, and I don't want her going through any of this on my avail.  Please let me know.  Thanks.

[ibizan]

oh no i know ur not the swinger dude!i was fusing some thoughts regarding previous post and trying 2 respond 2 u 2!low risk hpv is the wart bearing strain...2 types of hpv virus wart bearing are 6 and 11.only way a man knows he has hpv.There is no test for high risk hpv. currently for a male...science is still working on that one!..thats the type that causes dysplasia on womens cervix,that is given to her by a man!can also be transmitted by lesbians to each other!there are over 40 diff strains of hpv...2 that r wart bearing and the other 38 some that take up residence on the womens cervix....and a male will clear high risk in his body with no ill effects.pretty sucky i say!but oh well thats how this **** goes!If both of u have been active with other ppl in the dating/mating game of life and are both mogomous now...the cervical type could take up to a year or a little more to show on her cervix.she could've also got it from someone she dated prior to u.Would b hard 2 tell xactly who it came from!I know all of this is complex and confusing.....browse the archives under HPV transmission in the Experts forum-std's the docs responses to folks posting and also check out this website that the docs endorse and sit on their board...www.ashastd.org.Ur concern for ur girl is cool...way cool..but if u've dated others closely b4 each other the probability is high u  both have it.....sometimes younger women can clear the hpv virus from their cervix and the gynos don't always remove....just watch it...depends on colp results and how large of the cervical area is affected.She needs to keep up with her paps and both of u to use protection..thats all u can do!

[MSilva]

thanks so much for your advice!!!  so basically need to tell her to be regular with the PAPs.  on a side note, i hope things work out for you and you find someone honest.  i mean how can u love someone and then give them cancer!! i wouldnt be able to live with myself!! thanks again for ur help..

[ibizan]

ur so very welcome!No one gives anyone high risk hpv knowingly unless woman knows she has it and doesn't use protection with her partner or partners.....and when women ignore routine paps is when problems can/do occur!low risk hpv warts with partners needs to be treated..there is a lot of good info on this in the HPV archives...and Empathy very well read and up on her info with this!thank u for ur good wishes.....the same back 2 u!

[MSilva]

Hey, don't want to buy you, but I just spoke to my girlfriend and told her what was going on.  I have the same question she had, that if I'm infected with the high-rish strain, and if she isn't infected with the high-risk strain, wouldn't she get infected dealing with me?

I told her there is no test for males to test what strain they have, but warts are usually 6 and 11, which is non-cancerous?.  she is just worried that she might get the high-risk strain.  her other question was, if she does get the high-risk strain, what good does the pap smear do, it just basically tells tests for HPV, it doesn't cure it.  so she is basically going to get it eventually?  

this is pretty sad.  i read about vaccination, she's 28 so is that to old to get the shots?

thanks in advance!!

[empathy60]

Wart strains do not cause cancer.  And very rarely do high risk strains (which do not cause warts EVER) lead to cancer, this only usually happens when a woman is negligent and doesn't keep up with pap smears.  Abnormal cells on the cervix can be treated, and like ibizian mentioned, a LEEP procedure can be done if needed- this prevents cancer from occuring.  It is still very important for her to get pap smears.  HPV infection is common, it isn't something anyone needs to be that concerned about.  Particularly high risk.  Most doctors would still give her the vaccination.

Again though, you're not even sure if you have it yet.  And if she's keeping up on her paps, there's nothing much else to worry about.

[empathy60]

Also, I just reread your post and it almost seems like that if you do indeed have low risk hpv (genital warts), you're worried about giving this infection to your partner and that she would somehow develop high risk hpv?  You would have to be carrying two separate strains of HPV, (two different infections of low risk and high risk) for this to happen.  Low risk HPV can't evolve into high risk HPV, and vice versa.  So if you are only infected with a wart strain, the worst you could would do would be to give her low risk HPV (genital warts).  The only way she would ever be infected with a high risk strain is if she had sex with someone who has a high risk strain, very simple.  There are plenty of people who only have high risk HPV and not low risk.  And plenty with low risk who don't have high risk in conjunction.

[MSilva]

thanks a lot for your help!  I was just assuming that if I am infected with low risk, chances are more probable that I am infected with high risk as well.  You answered all my questions though.  I recently also just got a cold and my eyes are watery.  I hope this isn't a sign of anything!!!