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pain after hyster.
I had a hysterectomy on July 1,2008...My doc. removed everything but my left ovary and tube! I have had nothing but pain since having the surgery....It gets so bad at times I can't get up and walk! My doctor seems to not really care that much about it and just tells me it will get better! He has not told me what it might be or what he thinks it is...Has anyone went thru this and if so what was the problem??? Thanks for the help!
This sounds like pain from Surgical adhesions to me. Mine started in February after a September total hysterectomy in the year 2000. I suffered for over a year to the point where, I too, found it difficult walking. This treatment that I will describe literally changed my life. I'd been given the same run-around, if I may call it that, since my doctor told me that there was no help available for surgical adhesions other than more surgery which would only cause MORE adhesions. Mine were diagnosed during a (painful... due to the adhesions) colonoscopy (which generally are NOT painful...).
Please read this and print the material and if you get the go-ahead to do this type of deep massage, then by all means try it. Most of my friends who have had a hysterectomy have had this type of problem. The doctors do seem to know little about it (my opinion... I mean, they just don't get the PAIN part of all this... the tugging and pulling and PAIN). Leave it to my Exercise teacher to save the day.
Good luck!
I had no idea how painful adhesions are! I am very grateful I found this technique. Check with your doctor to make sure you can/should do this type of intense abdominal massage.
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This is a bit difficult to explain, but I am thinking it would be helpful to pring/copy this information and read it while comfortable so you can try to visualize the whole thing.
I am sure there might be others with a bit of a different technique, but I did not order anything special to do this exercise...just followed the lead of the exercise teacher who was helping me.
The exercise teacher had just taken a course from a woman named Umana and she is from Russia..she developed a program called Body logic. You could google the names to find information about Umana and her program, but, again, I did not order anything over the Internet, but I found her website interesting.
I mean, I felt like Superman lying on this ball...as if trying to fly!
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I put updated information at the bottom of this page, verifying that this really did work (for me at least!)....hoping this helps.
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The woman who taught me how to do this is an Exercise Instructor. She said that one reason she wanted to learn this technique was so that she could teach elderly people how to do it since some of our insides "glue together" as we age and that this releases much of the gluing because of all the blood, thus oxygen, it brings to the area.
In my case, I had a total hysterectomy in 2000 and suffered from surgical adhesions for over a year. The pain from the adhesions started about three months post-op. I did not find out about this technique until a year and a half after the pain from the adhesions started. This special massage seems to break up the adhesions and it worked for me. I figured that if it worked for adhesions that formed naturally in our body, it should work for surgical adhesions. It did!
It is truly amazing. I noticed a HUGE difference immediately. When I sat up after the fist time I did this (about a 15 min. session) I could feel a "FLOOD" or a Rush of blood or something! going to that area. After having (pelvic area) pain about 40 times an HOUR for over a year and a half after my surgery, my pain decreased to only about 10 times a DAY for a few seconds at a time. I did this procedure again about a week after the first session and that gave me even more relief. I think it was about four months until I had to do it again. Eventually I did not need to do this at all. My pain (and adhesions.... see notes below) eventually subsided totally.
The idea is you want to get the blood to the bone, not just the muscle....so it floods the tendons and gets lots of oxygen there to start healing and breaking up the adhesions.
**My instructor told me to think of a steak and how the tendon is sort of splotchy with blood where it is attached to the bone...well, you want to get the blood totally to the bone so as to really break things up. Regular massage is not "deep" enough.
The ball I used measures 16 inches. Again, though, I did not get the ball thru the website (Bodylogic) but you can go there and check it out if you want. The website is all about body rolling and about the woman who developed the technique.
I got just an ordinary ball in a toy section at Target and it looked similar to the one my exercise instructor used when she was teaching me how to do this. The ball I have has a picture of Blues Clues on it! Hey, it works. It probably is bigger than the ones they recommend, but, if you think about it, it is squishy to the point where once all my weight is on it, it probably shrinks down to about ten inches. And, I just put my "front" onto the ball for the pelvic area pain and NEVER on my back (spine in particular).
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Here is how I did it...leaning my body weight into it, literally placing the ball underneath me starting on the pubic bone and "rolling" on the ball...slowly.
I would lay on the pubic bone and just stay there for a few minutes... trying to put as much weight on the ball as possible (hard to do and you feel like Superman lying on a table trying to fly...does that make sense?) and then take about four minutes or so to SLOWLY (while remembering to take deep breaths now and then) work my way out to the right side where the ovary once was on that side. After you get there, go back slowly to the pubic bone...breathe deeply. When you get to the pubic bone again, then go to the other side, following a path, if you will, of where you imagine the fallopian tube once was. So, you are rolling in something like a "V" formation. After you get to the left side where the ovary once was, then go back to the pubic bone...and, you are done. But, take about 15 minutes to do the whole procedure. You only need to make a V formation path once... taking time to do it well.
**********************Notes after a laparoscopy....August 2007***********************
At first I did this technique twice in two weeks. Then I had to do it about once every two months or so...then about once a year. When my doctor did a laparscopy on me in June,07 (hoping to find adhesions so we could figure out why I had been having pain, which turned out to be a ruptured disk) he was shocked at how "clean" my insides were. He said he actually consulted another doctor about it. He said that you always see evidence of any type of abdominal surgery no matter how invasive (or not) the surgery. And, since I had such a huge surgery back in 2000, he expected to see some type of adhesion debris...but did not see anything. A great testimonial to Body rolling!
I always suggest checking with the doctor. I am not a doctor, just a person who was miserable from the pain of adhesions.
It does hurt a little while you are doing it, that is for sure, since you are initially pressing on the pubic bone with all the weight you can manage to put on the ball. And then you roll slowly to where the ovaries once were and yes, it is not the most pleasant feeling, but it is a "good hurt" if you know what I mean.
I have also used the type of Medicine ball that is "squishy." I bought one for the sake of weight training and for a just in case those nasty things return!
Take care and good luck!
Mary
Please read this and print the material and if you get the go-ahead to do this type of deep massage, then by all means try it. Most of my friends who have had a hysterectomy have had this type of problem. The doctors do seem to know little about it (my opinion... I mean, they just don't get the PAIN part of all this... the tugging and pulling and PAIN). Leave it to my Exercise teacher to save the day.
Good luck!
I had no idea how painful adhesions are! I am very grateful I found this technique. Check with your doctor to make sure you can/should do this type of intense abdominal massage.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This is a bit difficult to explain, but I am thinking it would be helpful to pring/copy this information and read it while comfortable so you can try to visualize the whole thing.
I am sure there might be others with a bit of a different technique, but I did not order anything special to do this exercise...just followed the lead of the exercise teacher who was helping me.
The exercise teacher had just taken a course from a woman named Umana and she is from Russia..she developed a program called Body logic. You could google the names to find information about Umana and her program, but, again, I did not order anything over the Internet, but I found her website interesting.
I mean, I felt like Superman lying on this ball...as if trying to fly!
**************************************************************************************************
I put updated information at the bottom of this page, verifying that this really did work (for me at least!)....hoping this helps.
******************************************************************************************************************************************************
The woman who taught me how to do this is an Exercise Instructor. She said that one reason she wanted to learn this technique was so that she could teach elderly people how to do it since some of our insides "glue together" as we age and that this releases much of the gluing because of all the blood, thus oxygen, it brings to the area.
In my case, I had a total hysterectomy in 2000 and suffered from surgical adhesions for over a year. The pain from the adhesions started about three months post-op. I did not find out about this technique until a year and a half after the pain from the adhesions started. This special massage seems to break up the adhesions and it worked for me. I figured that if it worked for adhesions that formed naturally in our body, it should work for surgical adhesions. It did!
It is truly amazing. I noticed a HUGE difference immediately. When I sat up after the fist time I did this (about a 15 min. session) I could feel a "FLOOD" or a Rush of blood or something! going to that area. After having (pelvic area) pain about 40 times an HOUR for over a year and a half after my surgery, my pain decreased to only about 10 times a DAY for a few seconds at a time. I did this procedure again about a week after the first session and that gave me even more relief. I think it was about four months until I had to do it again. Eventually I did not need to do this at all. My pain (and adhesions.... see notes below) eventually subsided totally.
The idea is you want to get the blood to the bone, not just the muscle....so it floods the tendons and gets lots of oxygen there to start healing and breaking up the adhesions.
**My instructor told me to think of a steak and how the tendon is sort of splotchy with blood where it is attached to the bone...well, you want to get the blood totally to the bone so as to really break things up. Regular massage is not "deep" enough.
The ball I used measures 16 inches. Again, though, I did not get the ball thru the website (Bodylogic) but you can go there and check it out if you want. The website is all about body rolling and about the woman who developed the technique.
I got just an ordinary ball in a toy section at Target and it looked similar to the one my exercise instructor used when she was teaching me how to do this. The ball I have has a picture of Blues Clues on it! Hey, it works. It probably is bigger than the ones they recommend, but, if you think about it, it is squishy to the point where once all my weight is on it, it probably shrinks down to about ten inches. And, I just put my "front" onto the ball for the pelvic area pain and NEVER on my back (spine in particular).
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is how I did it...leaning my body weight into it, literally placing the ball underneath me starting on the pubic bone and "rolling" on the ball...slowly.
I would lay on the pubic bone and just stay there for a few minutes... trying to put as much weight on the ball as possible (hard to do and you feel like Superman lying on a table trying to fly...does that make sense?) and then take about four minutes or so to SLOWLY (while remembering to take deep breaths now and then) work my way out to the right side where the ovary once was on that side. After you get there, go back slowly to the pubic bone...breathe deeply. When you get to the pubic bone again, then go to the other side, following a path, if you will, of where you imagine the fallopian tube once was. So, you are rolling in something like a "V" formation. After you get to the left side where the ovary once was, then go back to the pubic bone...and, you are done. But, take about 15 minutes to do the whole procedure. You only need to make a V formation path once... taking time to do it well.
**********************Notes after a laparoscopy....August 2007***********************
At first I did this technique twice in two weeks. Then I had to do it about once every two months or so...then about once a year. When my doctor did a laparscopy on me in June,07 (hoping to find adhesions so we could figure out why I had been having pain, which turned out to be a ruptured disk) he was shocked at how "clean" my insides were. He said he actually consulted another doctor about it. He said that you always see evidence of any type of abdominal surgery no matter how invasive (or not) the surgery. And, since I had such a huge surgery back in 2000, he expected to see some type of adhesion debris...but did not see anything. A great testimonial to Body rolling!
I always suggest checking with the doctor. I am not a doctor, just a person who was miserable from the pain of adhesions.
It does hurt a little while you are doing it, that is for sure, since you are initially pressing on the pubic bone with all the weight you can manage to put on the ball. And then you roll slowly to where the ovaries once were and yes, it is not the most pleasant feeling, but it is a "good hurt" if you know what I mean.
I have also used the type of Medicine ball that is "squishy." I bought one for the sake of weight training and for a just in case those nasty things return!
Take care and good luck!
Mary
Hi, I have had similar posts,,,One important thing to remember in medicine is you are the customer and your Doctor is your employee...You can "fire" him get another doctor this one seems unreasonable as to not wanting to help you.There is help to be had and I can not offfer you an online dignosis to this..but truely ,,,please see a different doctor, asap.....Best wishes..let me know when you get a diagnosis if I can be of futher help.
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