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Multiple Kidney Stones

I went to the instacare today thinking I had a kidney infection. I tested negative for that, but was told I might have a kidney stone. I had a CT scan and just got the results. They said I had several calcium deposits in both kidneys, one in the right kidney is 3mm. I am wondering when I go see this new doctor they referred me to what will happen. And I destined for surgery no matter what? I have never had a diagnosed kidney stone before. I have had a lot of unexplained pelvic pain and back pain the last several years, could all these stones be the cause of this?
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4851940 tn?1515694593
Endometriosis can cause pain and your doctor would need to send you to gynaecology department for a laparoscopy to find out if you have that condition.  

But kidney stones can give you renal colic and be extremely painful when they start to move or break up into pieces and start to come down.
If the deposits were very big the urologist can shatter them through shock waves to break the stone up into little pieces so that they can be excreted when you pass urine without having an surgical operation.

Make sure that you keep drinking your water.  Some people say that fresh lemon juice drunk diluted in the water will help to dissolve some stones.  My previous message gives details of the 4 different kidney stones that people can have.

Best wishes.
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4851940 tn?1515694593
The first symptoms that I had was pins and needles in my feet.  This baffled the doctors as what the cause was and I was first of all treated for Vitamin B complex deficiency and then later on with antidepressants.  Eventually sent for xrays and other tests.

What I did do was to seek alternative help by having reflexology and aromatherapy sessions and was told that I had a kidney problem - even before the doctors knew.

There are 4 main different types of kidney stones:-

calcium oxalate
struvite
uric
cystine

The rarest form of kidney stones is Cystine stones.  Cystinuria is an inherited condition that affects the amount of acid that is passed in the urine.  

Struvite stones are caused by recurrent kidney infections.

Uric stones are caused when there is too much uric acid in the urine with rheumatic conditions like gout.

Calcium oxalate stones can from with too much protein in the diet, too much calcium and Vitamin D and through dehydration.
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Hello,
Kidney stones can be or are caused by too much calcium and lack of Magnesium> Since you are researching. I'd like to direct you to Search Magnesium and kidney stones. This is one sign of lack of Mg, also included is anxiety and hundreds more., Dr Carolyn Dean's book is amazing. "The Magnesium Miracle.". It will help you understand your symptoms and have instructions what to take and how much,and you will be amazed at what problems lack of Mg can cause. Youtube is another good source for searching on Magnesium, several clinicians have recorded reports and findings. Also make sure to take note of oral magnesium replacement and transdermal Mg at the same time. Oral Mg takes 6 to 12 months before it would build up enough in your system, while transdermal Mg will work instantly but you have to spray it on frequently. I got used to it. I use both but oral replacement is much simpler eventually. I have put my whole household, friends and family on Mg supplementation. You probably will end up doing the same once you do your research. Its best to get the books too. They have further info that won't be on line nor on Youtube.  
The other book is "Transdermal Magnesium" by Dr. Mark Sircus... with instructions on how to use it , He is also on Youtube.
Good health and good luck.
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168348 tn?1379357075
Here's a good link to our Health Pages:
http://www.medhelp.org/health_pages/Urology/MSK-FAQs-Resource-Area---Many-Medullary-Sponge-Kidney-Links-for-Common-s-/show/504?cid=185

Lots of good info that may be helpful for you here...

C~
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4851940 tn?1515694593
Was calcium oxalate mentioned to you?

Make sure that you drink plenty of water every day.  2-3 litres a day, more if it is hot or you are sweating and working out.  This will help to flush the kidney stone out.  It may come out on its own.  When you pee catch it into a clear glass so that you can observe what it looks like and if you get any sediment or sand that comes out.  

Endometriosis will certainly give you pain.  so you will need to get that checked out.

Best wishes.
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The urologist said the instacare was exaggerating. I do have calcium build up in both kidneys and a 3mm stone on my right side that doesn't appear to be going anywhere anytime soon. He offered an X-ray with contrast but didn't think this was the cause of my pain. So I declined that test. He did put me on antibiotics in case a kidney infection was missed since I still feel so sick. They will wait and check my small stone in one year. Now he told me I should look up some info on this kidney condition that the radiologist thought I had where there is a lot of calcium build up in the kidneys making you have more of a chance if getting kidney stones. I don't remember what it was called. Anyone know? I guess I will still be talking to my OB about the possibility of endometriosis since I am also having all my old pain again.
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4851940 tn?1515694593
Yes, the back pain and pelvic pain may have been because of the stone moving.  Or from arthritis in the lower spine and/or hips.

When the stone does not move, you do not feel any discomfort or any pain at all.  If they move, you may feel renal colic (like wind in the belly), sometimes there is an infection and/or blood which may or may not be visible to the naked eye.  The urine could smell of kidneys and may appear cloudy, and/or dark.  This usually indicates an infection and blood.  The reason for this is as the stone starts to move down the urinary tract it scratches it.

And no, you are not necessarily destined for surgery.  If the stone if very big and causing a problem, they will try to shatter it so that it breaks up into little pieces so that you will be able to pass them out naturally.  This will be very painful, so be warned what to expect.  You may not pass a stone as such, it may appear like grains of sand, or a sediment when you urinate.  It may even break up on its own and pass out on its own without any medical intervention.

What you should do is to drink lots of water.  Your urologist will tell you how much you should be drinking, but the recommended amount is 2-3 litres of water throughout the day.  I was told to drink 3 litres (6 pints).  This will help to flush the stone out (hopefully).

Some people say that drinking lemon juice helps to dissolve the stones, but I do not know if this is so.  

Your doctor will probably prescribe pain killers in the event you need them and will observe how you are getting on.  It can take months for the stone/s to move.  He will probably order a special xray to see exactly what is happening inside and whether to do anything or to leave it.

In the event you start to feel very ill with a lot of pain, seek medical attention.

When you urinate, catch it into a see through glass jar so that you can look at it to see if any sediment or stones are being passed out, you will experience pain when this happens.

Once you have kidney stones, unfortunately when the stone is gone, you will be at a higher risk of getting stones again, so it is important to make sure you drink plenty of water and do not get dehydrated.

My stone was analysed as a calcium oxalate stone and I was told to avoid all dairy products, but that was 21 years ago, so things may have changed now and your urologist will tell you about your diet.

Best wishes.
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I dont know if it was 3mm or 3cm. I only talked on the phone to the nurse. She said it was a very large one though, so I am guessing it was cm? I guess I will find out more at my urology appt next week. Thanks for responding!
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656452 tn?1332783935
I'm not sure since it said deposits how that differs from calculli in the kidney.  3mm is on the small side so I bet they take a watch/wait approach.  However if any tiny pieces of that have been breaking off and passing w/o your knowledge that can easily account for the pain you describe .. at least for me it does w/o a doubt.  Even tiny little pieces <1.0mm in size can cause colic to be honest as well as the back pain you describe and me, also hip pain.
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