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Could this be Lyme Disease

by JoeSmith12, Nov 09, 2009 02:12PM
I have been experiencing very unusual thing the last few months.  I started by having bad headaches which lead to head pressure, in my temples, scull, eyes, ears, face...which is always present at time worse then others.  This then led to dissiness and vision issues and irregular heart beating.  Now I'm experiencing joint pain in my knees.  My symptoms stated about two months ago.  I found a tick on my left leg about six months ago.  I removed it and never got the traditional bullet rash, so never saw a dr...now I'm wondering if this could all be Lyme Disease.  My main dr has done every blood test you could think of, except Lyme.  I've been to see an ENT, a cartiologist, and in December will be seen by a neurologist.  In the meantime should i go back to my main dr and ask for a lyme test to be done as well or should i wait and mention it to the neurologist or do you think that the likelihood of Lymen disease to be very unlikely?  I was a rather large tick, thinking it was a wood tick, not a deer tick and like I said no rash after...your thoughts please...
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by JoeSmith12, Nov 09, 2009 02:16PM
Also should say I went from having tons of energy to having next to none...I'm always tired now...in addition have some trouble sleeping which might explain that away and have constant brain fog...

by JackieCalifornia, Nov 09, 2009 07:05PM
To: joesmith12
I'm no MD, but you seem to have a bunch of possible Lyme symptoms.  Even a TICK!  Many of us never saw one.  

Frankly I don't understand the insistence of the MDs that only the little deer ticks can give you Lyme ... yes, the deer are the reservoir for Lyme, but if a deer tick falls off an infected deer and bites a dog, then the dog gets Lyme (and they do!  vets are very up-to-date on this topic), then dog tick bites the sick dog and then bites you, why can't you get Lyme??

If I were in your shoes, I would NOT wait to see the neurologist.  Quick treatment is important, and altho 6 months have passed, the sooner the better is the rule of thumb for treatment.  Also, neurologists as a group are NOT known for 'believing' in Lyme, so if I were you, I'd go back and insist on a Lyme test and also tests for common co-infections that often are carried by the same ticks.  You can also then see the neurologist at the scheduled appointment, because it's possible you might have something other than Lyme.

Your main doctor you are thinking of going back to for the test may have a more open mind, but the fact that he tested you for everything BUT Lyme is not encouraging.  You don't say where you live, but if you could get yourself to an MD who has a more aggressive and broadminded view of Lyme, I would do so.  Lyme doctors (patients sometimes call them "Lyme Literate MDs" or LLMDs) don't advertise, because they sometimes get flak from the local medical boards who don't believe in Lyme.  It's a sad fact that Lyme patients end up doing a delicate dance among their various MDs, who engage in turf battles.  The only casualties are the patients.

If you need help finding an LLMD, let us know and we can direct you to some websites/goodle searches.

Hang in there.

by patsy10, Nov 09, 2009 11:53PM
I agree with Jackie.  Those sound like possible lyme symptoms.  Ticks are everywhere.  I have pulled several of the large brown ticks off my scalp.  I got them off of tall grass in a field near my home.

I would insist on a lyme test from the doctor.  Keep in mind though that lyme testing is not very accurate.  So you can have it and test negative.

by gorbybelle, Nov 10, 2009 03:15AM
the 'tick' I pulled off my 'buttock' was pretty big! - I am 99% sure it was not a deer tick.

I agree with the above posts - it sounds highly likely you have an infection from that 'tick' - lyme tests can be very inaccurate that is why it is a good idea to see an 'LLMD.' - these docs. understand the whole picture of lyme - much more so than 'main stream' docs.

Many people here - myself included - have been treated for lyme without ever having a positive test - diagnosed on symptoms and poss. history of tick-bite - though ticks and the rash are not always seen.

by JoeSmith12, Nov 12, 2009 12:46PM
Thanks for all the responces, I went to my Dr yesterday and he took it totally serious.  I took several blood tests.  Problem is he said it will take two weeks to get results back.  I can't believe it takes so long when testing for Lyme.

by momof3littleangels, Nov 13, 2009 08:35PM
I had tons of symptoms for over 2 months and went to the ER 3 times.  I had 8 doctors and tons of tests, pretty much everyone you can think of.  I had  a neg. Western Blot and a neg Elsa.  I found a LLMD and tested through Igenex lab, and I got a positive.  Very postive!!  No questions now..

Joe do you know what test your doctor ran?  Keep us posted on your results.

by JoeSmith12, Nov 20, 2009 09:53AM
To: momof3littleangels;gorbybelle;patsy10;JackieCalifornia
Thanks for the responces, well my lyme test came back negative, I asked what test was done, they told me a lyme panel AB Screen???  I see the Dr next week for a consultation, should I pursue the Lyme possibility at this point?

by wonko, Nov 20, 2009 05:14PM
I think you should still be actively pursuing Lyme.

It sounds like you got an ELISA test, which is the 1st of the 2-stage testing.  Standard guidelines will deny you the 2nd stage based on your negative screen.  

But keep in mind...that the tests are not that reliable.  Lyme is much more treatable early on then it is after a delay.  If it goes untreated, it can cause chronic problems and permanent damage.  

You live in an endemic area (after all, this disease is named after Old Lyme, CT!), you have known tick exposure during tick season, and your symptoms fit.  I am not a medical doctor nor can I tell you what to do, but if it was me in your shoes, knowing what I know of the pain and complications of a late dx, I'd insist on a course of antibiotics ASAP.  The risk of a few weeks of oral antibiotics, in my opinion, is far outweighed by the benefits of early treatment for your potential Lyme.

by JackieCalifornia, Nov 20, 2009 08:36PM
I agree with Wonko: full speed ahead.
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