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1554647 tn?1316827220

Just because I have lyme ticks on my property this year...

Just because I have lyme ticks on my property this year...

does it mean they will be there next year.  Can't they die out over winter (in Canada).

Is there a pesticide for lyme ticks?
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Deer ticks are the size of a poppy seed ... teeny tiny, hard to see.  That's one reason they are easily missed.  Dog ticks, mosquitoes, and other biting insects can also apparently transmit Lyme and other infections.  I mean, why not?

Ticks are a part of life, and so is disease.  We just have to be vigilant to check for them, and to have a wise doc lined up in case we get bitten or start getting strange symptoms.  We seem to be in that strange no-man's-land where the medical profession hasn't gotten a clue yet about the true damage and extent and difficulty of treating Lyme, but every day more docs are catching on, and until it becomes completely clear, we just have to keep doing what we are:  be vigilant, and have an LLMD on speed dial just in case.

30 years ago nobody knew what AIDS was, either.  So any day now Lyme should be getting its due.  Just live your life, enjoy the days of late summer, watch out for ticks and symptoms, and try not to worry.  I know it's hard, but that's life.  

I can talk, because I'm a worrier too.  I hear where you are coming from, esp. since it seems too much of the medical profession just isn't that concerned.  There are a lot of docs out there who ARE concerned, tho, and finding one of those docs and doing what you can to keep the ticks off and away is all you can do, short of moving into a concrete highrise, as did the author of a book about the effect of Lyme on her family, in 'Cure Unknown.'  

Do the best assessment you can of your situation, try not to overdose the pets or the kids on insect repellant, find a copacetic LLMD, do daily 'tick checks' on the kids and on yourselves, get to the doc asap if you do find a tick (and take it with you in a baggie or a clean medicine bottle so it can be tested), and then go on with life.  You will have done all you can.  
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you might want to get copies of the test results and take them with you to see the LLMD.  data points for the doc to consider.
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Aww, Thanks Ness. I can't wait to see him, he is very well known in the lyme community, so I hope this goes well and I am not disappointed.
I know that when I asked to be tested again for Lyme by my family doc. she agreed and ordered the Elisa test. When she told me that my results did not indicate lyme.. I kinda left it at that. I should have asked if the Western blot was done too, but I didn't understand as much as I do now.

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Have you done a Western blot?
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I have your LLMD marked on my mental calendar! I looking forward to hearing what he/she says. :)
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Hi Ness,

I live 45 mins. from Syracuse NY. I'm basically in the Utica area. My LLMD that I will be going to see is in Mt. Kisco, NY.  One More Week!! Next Friday, I just finished my symptom checklist that  is based on Lyme/Co-infections .

I will probably post it in my journal.

I sound like how your husband sounds, I am way too attatched to my house and I said I will never move, I will chain myself to my front porch too, LOL

Everyday, still checking my little pooches, so far so good.
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Well my husband said he would chain himself to the front porch and he will not move.  He said he would be on a tick control mission.  He said we will start with six chickens...which is funny because he as wanted chickens since we moved here, but I have always changed the subject. I have also been reading things about tick tubes etc..

I was really greiveing about leaving this house.  It's a magical spot in the world near a beautiful lake.  We also bought the house (from the bank) it was a total disaster and totally gutted it...so it really feels like ours and I guess because we felt like we set roots and started envisioning oursleves here for a long time...so I was terribly sad about the idea of moving...which is not like me because I usually have a gypsy spirit and don't get very attached to places I live.  Maybe having kids has made me sentimental.  But anyways...

Again, thanks Jackie for the reality check...."Ticks are a part of life, and so is disease." So for now (tonight anyways)...I will prepared to be vigilant and proactive.

Pam...What is considered Upstate NY? I am across the border from Buffalo. Just wondering if your LLMD is only four hours from you where that is (approx)...
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Hi Ness,
I have lived in upstate NY all of my life.. The funny thing is, where I grew up is 2 mins. from where I live now. My house is on a quiet road, I have a huge backyard that is fenced in, however, the woods are attached right behind the fenceline.
Now..., where I grew up was also heavily wooded. I used to go deep into the woods with my friends to build forts and hang out. Back then, we feared nothing!! lol, We used to have "parties" in the woods so we weren't caught by our parents. I also was a girl scout as a very young child and spent alot of time camping, and hiking, going to all sorts of outdoor activities.

At, 17yrs. I was dx'd with Cat Scratch Fever.    /////   It's been 22yrs. and I am having all sorts of problems, one thing after another. My first noticed symptom that I can track back to was when I was in my early 20's, I started to slur my speech while reading aloud in front of my classroom students I had another episode of speech slurring and then "dead legs", couldn't lift my legs to  roll over in bed.

After researching and coming on this forum, I learned that bartonella can be a coinfection of lyme.... Cat Scratch Fever = bartonella This is what put my thinking cap on to think my problems for all of these years have all been caused by lyme disease and bartonella,,, and God only knows what else at this point.

The first time I ever saw a tick was last fall when we first got our two new puppies. I was petting my dog and said " eww, he has a wart or something", it was ugly and kinda looked like a sunflower seed sticking out of the back of his ear. I decided to check online to see if it was something I should have him checked by the vet, thinking its a weird looking wart, instead, I saw "the engorged tick",
OMG, I was grossed out by the thought that I was touching in and not knowing what it really was. I brought him right away to the vet. When they came out of the office after getting the tick off, they told me he had 3 all together on him. One week later, the other puppy had one on him, back to the vet we go... anyway,,, since I have gotten my two new puppies, I have never seen a tick before.
To think, I might have a tick borne infection in me that has been with me for more than 20 years and never saw a tick until the past year. The one on my bed was the worst. I still have a hard time getting into bed eventhough there is nothing there. My dogs have been sleeping in their cage at night.

I honestly do not know what kind of tick it was, but it was not engorged, and was blackish brown. I tried to look it up, but I have vision problems and to me I cant get a clear enough picture, but my husband was checking and he said, its definately a tick.
If its a dog tick, can it still harm you with a disease? Can deer ticks be around the same size as a dog tick, or are they always small like a poppy seed?

Wow,,,, sorry I went on and on like that, apparently I have alot to say!! LOL
Take care,
Pam
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Not to freak you out even more, but I have not read anywhere that dog ticks are not capable of carrying and transmitting Lyme and other diseases.  I got Ehrlichiosis from a dog tick.
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1554647 tn?1316827220
Jackie - that's too bad.  I just can't stay on my property knowing that it is where I, and now likely my neighbour, got infected.  It's really sad.  I know you say they are everywhere....but I know they are here now and it's too much for me with my kids.  And what about my friends kids who love playing on our huge property. What if they don't tick check obsessivley enough.

Pam - How long have you lived where you live? Have you ever seen ticks before? That is spooky.  I have only ever pulled dog ticks off of myself and only after all this tick mania started.  Was it a deer tick you saw?
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I have to agree with Jackie 100% about becoming obsessive/compulsive! I am constantly  checking the dogs, the kids, the beds and the whole house regarding these darn little disgusting critters. I found just a couple of days ago on my little maltipoo a tick. I got it off (head and all) . I gave my dogs a nice long flea and tick bath and then sprayed my whole house with flea and tick spray.

As I was getting ready to strip down my bed to change the sheets and   I started checking for anything...... I found a black tick on my bed!!! I screamed and started to spray windex on it (just to stun it enough to get it into a cup).

I was shaking so bad, and grossed out on top of that! I ordered some frontline and a tick and flea spray for the yard that very same day!!!!!!!!!

I told my family, I don't give a rats a$$ who thinks I am nuts or too worried about this c ra p anymore! I am scared to death, especially for my kids!! It's obviously that simple for them to get into the house, AND in the bed. Needless to say, I am OBSESSIVE about checking before I get into bed, and before making my bed, I spray constantly too.
LOL

Nothing like already going through the process of finding out if I have lyme disease, but to have these SIGNS going off, (ticks on dogs, ticks on bed) makes me think that GOD  is trying to tell me something!!

I would like to know, "WHAT THE HECK IS THEIR PURPOSE OTHER THAN GIVING DISEASES TO PEOPLE AND ANIMALS?????"

pAM

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If Lyme ticks couldn't survive the winter, then anywhere that freezes would be tickfree after a single winter, unless it seems reasonable that they could replenish from their cousins' locations where hard freezes don't happen.

New England (location of Lyme, CT) doesn't seem to be able to get rid of the ticks through freezing, so I'm guessing the answer is ... no.

Also, ticks like to live near and on things they can feed off of:  dogs, people, possums, etc.  Those mammals keep their own body temps high enough to keep an embedded tick comfortable.

Ticks are like any bug -- they do die from pesticide, but if we haven't been able to get rid of plain old dog ticks or house flies through mass application of pesticide, then the chances of doing so with ticks aren't looking good.

Keeping pets tick-free and checking yourself and your family every day is not a bad idea, tho.  (It's enough to make anyone obsessive/compulsive, isn't it.)
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