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Plum Island

Here's a little something for those of you who are of the opinion that this is something that came from biological weapon research on Plum Island:

"Perhaps the first detailed description of what is now known as Lyme disease appeared in the writings of Reverend Dr John Walker after a visit to the Island of Jura (Deer Island) off the west coast of Scotland in 1764.  He gives a good description both of the symptoms of Lyme disease (with "exquisite pain (in) the interior parts of the limbs") and of the tick vector itself, which he describes as a "worm" with a body which is "of a reddish colour and of a compressed shape with a row of feet on each side" that "penetrates the skin". Many people from this area of Great Britain immigrated to North America between 1717 and the end of the 18th century. The examination of preserved museum specimens has found Borrelia DNA in an infected Ixodes ricinus tick from Germany that dates back to 1884, and from an infected mouse from Cape Cod that died in 1894."
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Interesting!  And since Lyme bacteria and syphilis bacteria are in the same family, and syphilis goes back millenia, I am with you on this point --

In the scientific family tree, this is syphilis:

Domain: Bacteria
Phylum: Spirochaetes
Order: Spirochaetales
Family: Spirochaetaceae
Genus: Treponema
Species:    [several]

... and this is Lyme:

Domain: Bacteria
Phylum: Spirochaetes
Order: Spirochaetales
Family: Spirochaetaceae
Genus: Borrelia
Species:   [several]

A couple of nasty cousins, aren't they.
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I can't say any of them were troublesome, fact is I got bigger and stronger.  I'll leave it to the people who read here to find out just what it is that mycoplasmas and the spirochete need to grow.
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Which vitamins and supplements did you find to be troublesome?  Just curious ....
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I have actually wondered that myself if all the vitamins and supplements are feeding the bacteria and causing more harm than good.
By the way, Igenex accepts Medicare if that by chance applies to you.
Best wishes to you and keep being strong.
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You're welcome for the history, but I've got a 43 year personal history with the vermin, and enough is enough.  Either they go, or I do. You might say I'm somewhat of a naturopath myself, though I'd not even think of advising anyone to try the things I took that caused the massive dieoff I went through on Valentine's day.  I was a nutrition with biological science major through the 90's.  I was stupid enough back then to take mega doses of various vitamins and other supplements, not realizing that I was also feeding the things within.  I cringe at times when I read posts here about supplementing.

I can say one thing to all here.  Know your enemy!  Learn all that you can about the biology of these things.  Don't rely on any single person, who's to say he or she has the time, or for that matter the ability, to find and comprehend things any better than you.  Be curious, if you run across something you don't understand, look it up.  If I'd had what's available online today, back in the 90's, I feel I'd be done with them.  Truly I feel for some of you, the things have damaged me a lot less than they have many of you.  Quite literally, by the grace of God, I am strong.  And they shall not win.

Jackie, thanks I'll see what I can find.  That's what I hate about this system though, "need a doctor's order".  Just an office visit for someone to tell me I'm crazy, a couple hundred more bucks.  To heck with it, I'll just kill them, forget about any old disability....
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You can have a naturopath sign off on the test too.  
Cool little history lesson. Thanks
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Yeah, I hear you.

It's transmitted through contaminated water, so outbreaks are possible anywhere, just not common in the US much.  However where there is flooding and the drinking water is contaminated, there's a risk.  Acc. to wiki, there was serious spring flooding in Ohio in 1968, and the reaction by public health officials would be to call for vaccination to avoid an epidemic.  So I wouldn't necessarily go all conspiracy.  It would be natural for the military or National Guard to assist in mass vaccination programs like that.  Happens today when there's a natural disaster.

I don't think the igenex website posts prices, but if you call them and ask, I bet they will tell you.  It's not some massive company ... just a small place in small office building with a little parking lot in the back.  I was expecting some mega-headquarters, but no.  Very nice people to deal with.  Generally I think my tests ran a couple hundred dollars, but I was getting tested for several things, as I recall.  They don't take insurance, but your insurance would prob. reimburse.

Just search online, you'll find their contact info. They have a website.  I think you'll need a doc's orders, but not sure.  Ask.
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Yes, but Chinese Medicine has came up with effective treatments for the supposedly incurable syphilis and the spirochete that causes leptospirosis.  I realize I've not posted here in awhile, I've been hammering mycoplasmas for 6 months now, think I've got most of them taken care of, but I can still feel things running around in my legs.  Van Leeuwenhoek, the inventor of the microscope mentioned seeing "animacules" that fit the description of spirochetes which darted about like pike.  That's what they feel like in my legs at times.  I also had a rash on my ankles recently and it appears to be sarcoidosis.  So I don't think I'm yet finished killing micro-vermin.

Now what I posted above isn't definitive, there could still be some loose that were toyed with at Plum Island, there have been 13 species of the genus identified so far.  So I still wonder about that typhoid vaccine I received in 1968.  Never did find who gave it to us, but I remember a blue military ambulance with a red cross on it.  As mentioned before, Rickenbacker AFB was active at that time and they'd have been the only agency within the state that would have had access to the typhoid vaccine.  A vaccine that wouldn't be needed in Ohio.  Plum Island was active too!

How much does IGENEX testing cost?  I think it would behoove me find out what's done this to me before I kill them all.
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