Why IGENEX TESTS ARE SO RELIABLE

[ewford]

I have found through research that the reason IGENEX labs are so successful in culturing Lymes and co-infections is that they use Dr LIDA MATTMAN'S techniques that she worked on by actually "feeding " the bacteria to get it to grow more quickly and IGENEX actually looks for the BACTERIA in the sample as opposed to Labcorp and Quest just looking for antibodies to lymes.   As we all know since this is a usually a Mycoplasmal infection, it actually masquerades inside cells and fools your immune system into not attacking it.  Hence, no antibodies.  Dr Mattman actually witnessed spirochetes exiting out of red blood cells under staining and amplification.  
   Watch her autoimmune seminar video on Youtube where she was explaining about the 3 types of Lyme (spirochetal, Mycoplasmal and Cystic) and how research here in the US pales to what they have found abroad where they actually want to help people, instead of admitting that their bio research went awry and is now debilitating the world.

Also, everyone.  LISTEN!!!     The current philosophy is using agents such as Banderol and Sawmento  free Cats Claw to help break the biofilm that the Lymes uses to protect itself.  ABX alone is not gonna cut it.  Build your immune system up as well.

[Lori707]

I have been preaching IGENEX Labs in California for a long time!! I saw two doctors in the same week and my LLMD drew blood but I didn't know what was being tested. My rhuematologist gave me a script to Quest for a Lymes test. I had two Lyme tests in one week. Quest came out "reactive" and Igenix came out Positive AND inspected my blood under a microscope seeing "oval" shaped critters.  Now my rhuematologist insists that I'm negative eventhough I gave him a copy of the Igenix report. Huh????

I do have floaters which I see but I've also seen oval shaped things which are not like the black floaters.  

I'm really glad I have an LLMD!!

[ewford]

I don't think you are crazy.  I have been suffering symptoms of Bartonella but my test was NEG.  I was pos for Western Blot and b. Burgdeferri.  I happened to be out and waiting in line at a store and the light caught my eye afunny way when I was wearing my glasses and I could actually see the bacteria in my aqueous fluid.  I have never seen that before, wher I used to see very minor occasional "floaters".  This time I could see rod shaped bacteria, or L shaped bacteria.  Scared the hell out of me

[nutrinut_bob]

Thanks ewford, I have my own little understanding of pleomorphic vermin, for some reason I get to watch them change shape right before my eyes, so to speak, in my floaters. Doesn't happen often, and the last time it happened I was bearing witness to apoptosis of the last one in my right eye.  See my mycoplasma post.  Now on to the remaining vermin in left eye.

[ewford]

Check out Youtube and search for   Dr Lida Mattman  Autoimmune conference.  here are some links.  she explains the 3 types of pleomorphic Lyme bacteria and how it changes shape to fit it's environment.  She wrote the book  STEALTH PATHOGENS.  Let me know if the youtube link helps in understanding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WozrCFW0mRM

[nutrinut_bob]

Please be so kind as to put up a link for me to the 3 types of Lyme.  Shapeshifters, ROM, Space Knight, where are you when we need you?  Just kidding about ROM, but interested in shapeshifters.  Thanks.

[ewford]

because they think because they are independent labs that there are too many POS results.  But my analagy to that is  "if you are a one legged man going to a butt kicking convention, you are gonna find a lot of one legged men there"  Same as with Lymes, YOU KNOW you are sick, no Labcorp or Quest test picks it up, you have no high white blood cell count but feel very ill.  Your last step is to have them test you, hence so many positive test results.

[JackieCalifornia]

I understand that the IGeneX tests look not for antibodies, but for fragments of Lyme bacteria, which is helpful because in an established Lyme infection, your immune system may after a while give up making antibodies against the Lyme bacteria.  No antibodies means the test that looks for antibodies will come back negative, although you could have a Lyme infection.

Non LLMDs are suspicious of IGeneX, but I have not been able to learn why.