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LISA- I have these strange things happening in my belly kinda like Gas... My stomach is bloated again and I continue my Gatorade. The mesntrual kind cramps went away Thank GOD along with my sever depression from last night.
I dont have discharge or anything else. Also Ive noticed that when Ig et to bed I fall asleep immediately.
Is it a good sign that I have not gotten my period?
I felt like my stomach was bloated too (actually I still feel that way). It's a good sign that you haven't started your period. What day is your blood test? The 2ww is definently the hardest part of the IVF process, it much easier to take all those shots! Stay positive - my thoughts are with you.
I am still awaiting AF. I saw it once just after my BFN in December. I am now a few days late. Of course I was hoping that by chance I got pregnant but according to the HPT there has been no such luck.
Marty - Thanks for the update on the prayer list and keep your faith positive. Oh, and tell your DH, you aren't crazy. Your hormones are doing summersaults and you have a right to, anyhow. You are the one getting poked with needles and downing all sorts of meds, to bring forth joy for the both of you to share. Hey, scream like a mad woman if you like.
My DH just looks at me and goes the other way. He can't win. He just waits for the mood to mellow again. He is definately being more understanding this round. My 2 yr old and I are the ones that are battling. But that is because, we are just alike. She have her hormonial inbalance every month, just don't bleed yet. Heck, males do to. Challenge. Test them the same time every month.
Started cravings. Anyone else. I am loving peppercons like Idid with my daughter. Eat them straight out the jar! yummy!
Well good night ladies
Prayers and well wishes to you all.
Faith and positiveness until we speak again.
Took at test this morning on day 9 and again its negative. What a way to start my Sunday :( MY BT TEST IS ON 2/2) I cannot wait to get there. Finally I broke down today I just coulld not take it anymore. This is just the hardest thing ever. I still have all the same symptoms and noperiod however I started a discharge yesterday pretty gross I would say, my huisband tells me its the beginning of the (I dont know what cavity) some cork in there that we have when we are pregnant. God I am trying so hard to keep the faith. I am going to church in a bit and beg for some sanity!
XOXOXOX Marty
LJ- hey girl. Haven't had a chance to catch up with you lately. How's everything going. Did you get AF yet. I'm still waiting too. I'm starting to get excited for my next RE appoint. Feb 21st. Feels like forever now.
Audrey - Hope your doing well and had a nice weekend :) Are you feeling better. I know the flu kinda knocked you on your butt!
Marty - Sorry you got another negative. I know you test after 8 days after a blastocyst and that it's normally accurate. unfortunately. Sorry. BUT ...... keep your chin up. Your symptoms seem positive and you never know b/c everyone's different. Don't do anymore tests! This is hard enough for you. Just wait until 2/2 and hope for a BFP (big fat positive)
XOXOXXOXOXO Marty
Good luck all of you who test tomorrow. Fingers crossed.
Praying for you tonight for tomorrow's bt. Please let us know as soon as you do. Will be checking my computer all day!!
Hi Nicki, LJ, & Bemyyear,
Hope you had a restful weekend. AF came on Saturday...I was surprised cuz my nurse said it would probably come late. Thanks Nicki for asking...I was pretty ill last weekend but now feel back to normal. LJ mentioned that she was coming down with something. Bemyyear, are you going to join our 2ww group in March? We are Nicki, LJ, mstrex and I.
Hi Marty,
I know it is so difficult...but try to wait for the bt on 2/2. Those HPTs s%#k! Remember PUPO (Pregnant until proven otherwise)!!
Take care and have a restful day
XOXOXO Marty
XOXO Marty
Baby dust to all of us! Im not testing anymore. Im doing my blood test on Friday and THATS IT! I cannot continue to put myself through this misery.
I have thought about having a Plan B just in case. I know I will be devastated therefore I have opted for making an appt to try to fix my fallopian tubes with surgery. I would travel to Chapell Hill in June for the birthday!
I wanted to share a couple of things I have found lately.
Did you know that some of our treatment is tax deductible?
Its still a little in the gray side but thats good for us. ASk you acct because remember infertility is a diseace and treating is could be in most cases deductible. Boy was I happy to hear about that around tax time!!
This link willt ake you to soemthing interesting! Read about it and tell me what you think!!
IntegraMed® Shared Risk® Refund Program for IVF Treatment
http://www.integramed.com/inmdweb/content/cons/shared.jsp
I'm holding you in my thoughts. I can tell you've had an emotional couple of days!
XOXOXXO Marty
I go to church yesterday trying to feel better. And I sit in back of this couple that she had 2 kids (1 st marriage I guess) and he had one older son (also first marriage I guess) they were both around me and my husbands age (38 and 44) and they had the MOST BEAUTIFUL little girl (now you ask myself in a huge church full of people why did I end up there????) all she did was laugh the whole entire mass. Honestly I have NO idea what the lecture was about. I found myself staring at the little girl for a complete hour. Mind you I know about the kids situation because 2 of them called her Mom and her husband by his name and vice versa. I was completely taken in by then and that might be because I have 2 kids from my first marriage and my husband has one also. So I felt like Please God let that be me! Not in an envious way because Im not like that and God bless them but just for GOd to throw a little of that luck my way. Just a little is all I NEED!!
I am holding you in my thoughts today.
Warmly,
Spoonfrau
Its such a pretty day here in Miami the weather is in the high 50's and for us that means taking out the boots and long johns lol..
Well I have not tested anymore and will not until the BT on Friday. I have been very sad lately but I have to snap out of it. I still have a little cramping, no period but on day 9 that HPT is still hanging over my head however when they did my transfer they transferred Morula Cavities, my babies had not reached Blastocycyst stage yet Hopefully that is why the HCG levels are very low HOPEFULLY!!
The day is getting near only 3 more days to go either to be the happiest woman in the world or the saddest. How ironic is that right...
SammyRae and MamaSita hope everything is well with you and you got you PBT.
XOXOXO Marty
I havent seen much writing is everyone still here?
God BLess
Marty
I just got back from my first doctor's appointment and it's official, we're having twins!!! I am so excited, a little nervous, but very excited.
I hope everyone is doing well - good luck to all those who are testing.
Lisa
I am new in this forum. I have read all of your comments and tried to post mine but no way I could do it until now. I was in 2WW and very frustrated. I needed support from everyone here but I couldn't. I was very sad and negative for 2 weeks. Anyway, I am at 18dpt and my b/t came back on Monday with positive, beta very high 1774.
Today I want to share my experience here with all of you, I hope it can help whoever is waiting for the POSITIVE result. I am 31 and living in Orange County, CA. Failed 3 IUIs, this is my 1st IVF. I had total 23 eggs and 13 good embryos. I transfered 3 embies on Jan 13 (3 day transfer). On day 7 after transfered I took a HPT and it came out negative. I was frustrated and very sad after that. I kept worring every single day. As you know, I failed 3 IUIs, so I did not have any hope after the HPT. I decided not to take any HPT since and wait for my b/t done at my dr's office.
On Jan 29 at 3 pm, my nurse called and let me know that i am pregnant with beta 1774. I could not believe what I heard, i thought i was dreaming or something and I did cry for my happiness. I swear to god that i did not have any symptoms even now. Just a couple days before my b/t I felt hungry and ate a little bit more than usual. I also felt spleepy very often, no any other symptoms for me to notice. No cramp, no bleeding, nothing happened.
Anyway, for anyone who take a HPT around day 7 or 8 and come back Negative. DO NOT WORRY. It's way too early for your HCG shows. I think at least 10 days will be more accurate. If you don't have any symptom or bleeding, that's ok too. Just stay healthy and positive, you will be fine. I think it would be better if you don't take any HPT before your b/t. Because at least you can have lots of hopes in 2WW.
Finally, I wish all of you lots of luck. I hope you all will get POSITIVE test with a healthy baby. Take good care of yourself and wait for a good new from your dr. By the way, base on my beta level I may have twins or triplet. I will find out and let you guys know in 2 weeks.
Love
Love
Bertie: I go in for my blood-test on Friday. I hope we both get the news we are dreaming of!
Bertie: I go in for my blood-test on Friday. I hope we both get the news we are dreaming of!
Congrats to Lisa, glad all is going well.
Sorry, somehow I missed sammyrae & mamasita results on monday.
Unfortunately I have been sick with the flu since Monday and still no AF.
Good luck to everyone on Friday.
Until then.
I am so glad things worked out for you. Was this your first IVF attempt?
I wish all of you the best of luck and thank you for all your support.
Baby dust to all of you
Samantha
I hope God send a little baby dust my way.
Chau I hope my story ends up like yours. It actually sounds very much like it. I dont feel anything except for some cramping a little more hungry and a little more sleepy. Could all be in my head or it could be my little babies. Thank you for sharing and Good Luck to us all!
Marty
We are getting so near now.. The moment we have bee waiting for? Have you taken any HPT? I have not since the one un Sunday. I have held off to get the good news tomorrow. Everything seems to be fine no spotting just a little cramping periodically. How are you feeling? ANything new?
My God I am so anxious for tomorrow! I hope we are both preggy we would be delivering around the same time!!
Love-- Marty OXOXOXOXOXO
Have you in my prayers.
Marty
Spoonfrau & Marty - Good luck tomorrow. I will keep you both in my thoughts.
MommySelena - I had a quick question for you, at 8 weeks are you still in your normal clothes? A friend from my office is having twins (from IVF) and she started w/ maternity clothes at 6 weeks. Are you getting big fast?
I hope everyone is doing well.
Lisa
Yes, the waiting game is almost over. No, I haven't done a HPT. The temptation is there but I'm resisting, as you said, for the good news tomorrow! It sounds like we have similar symptoms. Last night I felt a bit nauseous but it was shortly after I took my estrace pill. I'm trying not to read in to anything too much with
I am so hoping we get to experience the miracle of pregnancy together!
Love,Spoonfrau
Thank you so much for thinking of me. I really appreciate your well wishes.
Sammyrae: I am holding you in my thoughts.
Love
Love
Lots of love to you and your babies. May God bless you and them now and always!!!
Love Marty
I guess Im just hoping for signs that tomorrow will be a positive..
THANK YOU ALL
Marty
Sorry its been several days. But I was having a bout. this 2ww was catastrophy on me. I went out Monday and bought a test that was of course negative, because I took it toooo soon. God convicted me and told me be anxious for nothing. I repented and told HIM that I trust Him and would wait until this weekend, so I have been going to work to keep my mind occupied and keep busy with all the wonderful babies and kids (we own an early childcare facility.
My dh dared not ask me how the test turned out. It was unspoken for three whole days. I was just in a bad way. Guess it was hormones from all the changes and such! But needless to say, I have been upbeat and positive. Focused on what God has for me to complete each day, verses making myself sick from wonder. Baby dust and prayers to All us hopeful
But I have been thinking about you guys and keeping you all in my prayers. I wasn't able to get online because I couldn't reminder the site at work. It was on my labtop at home.
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Marty - Prayers and blessings for you, either way. But I really pray you get your hearts desires tomorrow. Please stay optomistic (:>)
Are you keeping the prayer chain going! You are the support and strength by starting that.
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Praying everyone else is doing wonderful during their 2ww.
Did you think Friday would ever come? My thoughts and prayers are with you today(Bertie), and tomorrow(Marty & Spoonfrau). Please keep us posted!! God Bless!!!
Mommy2Selena,
Glad to hear that everything is o.k. with you and yours!! Thanks so much for keeping in touch!!
Congratulations Chau & Lisa,
It is so wonderful to hear all the success stories...you both have truly been blessed!!!
Sammyrae,
So sorry that it didn't work out this time around. I know how difficult and painful a failed cycle can be. Please do not give up hope...we are here for you. If you do decide to try again, quite a few of us are set for March/April. Please let us know what you and DH decide to do. Hugs!!
Hi LJ,
Sorry you have that horrible flu. It kicked my butt about two weeks ago. Did you mention before that you are also a teacher? If so, is your class as sick as mine? So, no AF yet? I got mine on Saturday, but it was VERY light.
Hey Nicki,
Where are you girl? Hope you are well and ready for the weekend!!
LJ & Audrey - I got AF on Monday. How bout you guys? I really want to be close in schedules so I have my 2WW buds! You too MSTREX. LJ I hope your feeling better.
Sammy - I'm so sorry. It's so terrible that it didn't work. But LJ said it well after she told you about her long efforts. You just have to keep trying. I'm going on my 3rd try and I'm not giving up. Even if it doesn't work. Somehow you manage to get back on the horse. I'm really so sorry. I know there's really no words to say that make you feel better. All we can do is be here if you need a friend.
Marty - hope you've been staying away from those tests! I am wishing you tons of luck tomorrow. Please let us know when you hear!
Good luck to all of you testing tomorrow and next week!
Audrey & Nicki - My flu turned into bronchitis, haven't been at work all week and still no AF. At this rate I may not skip a month otherwise I be looking at MAY!!!
No, I am not a teacher, although that's what I started out going to school for. I am financial assistance worker who works with those in need.
Take care and talk to you soon.
I have prayed a lot for all of us that God send us much Baby dust and does his will.
I will let you know as soon as I know...
Spoonfrau--God Bless you sweety, hang in there we are almost there.
Prayer Chain..
Lets keep it GOING!!!
XOXOXOX Marty
I told you not to worry and not to nervous, but myself is very nervous right now. I cannot wait to hear your good news as if I am the one who is waiting for a phone call from my dr.
Anyway, you will be fine. Get ready to be a MOMMY. No matter what happens I and other people in this forum will be with you. Take care and be happy.
Love
OK be positive Marty- Chau Im ready to be a Mommy!!!
PS- BTW- Why is your Dr calling? Do we have any news on those twins???
LOVE MARTY
I have to wait about 10 days to find out how many that I am having. Last night, I had a dream. I saw my u/s technician told me that I had identical twins. Kind of weird but I love to have 2.
Marty
Love
What about you guys? I know Audrey mentioned March 30th for the beginning of her 2ww. Nicki?
I'm so sorry about your failed cycle!! I cried for days after my chemical pregnancy. I still pray every night for my two little angels in heaven. But God gives us the strength to move forward. Take all the time you need and take care of you right now. When you are ready, you have a plan B. We are here for you...please let us know what you decide to do next. Con Dios todo es posible!!!
Hi LJ,
So glad to hear that you, Nicki, and I are going to be spending 2ww time together!! I am definitely set for March 30. I have already ordered my medication and my first us and bt are scheduled for March 12. Have a great weekend!
Hi Bemyyear,
Are you still checking in with us? Hope you are well and wanted to know if you have a date yet for your FET. I think you said it would be sometime in February?? Take Care.
LJ- hey, sorry about the broncitas. That stinks. But at least your home all week and resting :)
I'm glad AF showed.
Audrey and I should be around the same time. I'm going to a new RE this time remember. He's new but my RE consults and shares patients all the time and he told me he thought I should go to him b/c supposedly he's like a mad scientist and an expert at IVF. His clinic is superior with Frozen Cycles (so I hear) so by going to him for my fresh in March, I will most likely have leftovers that will be in good hands. So I have to go to him on 2/21 at 3:00 and I can't wait. I should get AF at the end of February. I'm going to see what he says. He may say lets start after my Feb cycle which would mean I'd have ER & ET mid march but I don't know. I may want to wait until my March cycle. So I have to play it by ear and I won't know for sure until after my consult with him.
Have an awesome weekend gals. I'll be around this weekend so I'll pop in here and there.
Well enough about me. Marty I am so sorry to hear your news. And to the rest of you, thanks so much for posting - even though I didn't post, I sure appreciated all that I read. I go for the BT on 2/5 so only have to make it through the weekend!
Lisa I have way out grown my regular cloths I look 4-5 months at 9weeks, I went out to eat a few nights ago and seen a friend I have not seen in a while and she said OMG I did not know you were PG!
Marty sorry to hear your bad news I will keep fingers crossed for you next time, For those of you who don't have insurace to cover IVF, Have any of you looked into a program called ARC you pay for the full retrivals and you get upto 6 transfers using your frozen embros if you don't get a baby then you get all but 3K back Thats what I did,.
Update on the Twins I have seen their heart beats alot in the last few weeks I am hooked up with a great high risk doctor I have a few health problems, he also switched me from a progestrone injection to a supposatory 2x day and took me off of baby asprine and put me on heprin 2x day and guess what all the bleeding stopped.. the morning sickness just startted to kick in I thougth I was gonna get out of that LOL no such luck I also have a bad time sleeping at night up peeing alot I look thinner first thing in the AM.
Best wishes to you all sorry about going on and on and on
Thanks Toni
First of all thank you all for leaving me your comments. I had a very sad day yesterday because I could not do this again however I am now going for Plan B and have scheduled my tubal surgery for March. I will opt this option because I will have more chances of getting pregnant the only problem is hurrying up because of my age however IVF has really taken it all out of me. It was a financial burden and cannot afford even trying this again. I will stay in touch with you all and wish you all the best.
Thank you again for being there for me.
Marty
I am so very sorry for you and I cried when I read your post. I hope your surgery works but maybe think about this. Financialy my husband and I have fought with the thought of trying IVF again and not having anything to show for it. Both trys we paid out of pocket. Which has drained us totaly. After the MC when I went in for a follow up my ob told me about this adoption agency that she has had several patient go through. At first I was so upset at her and the idea. I wanted to be pregnate and feel the baby grow inside of me. But as time has gone by I have warmed to the idea. I want a child to love and call me mom. All children are gods and I asked myself why did i have the MC and then a few weeks later this option was presented to me. Maybe this is gods plan. It is not what I wanted to hear but I would love the child regardless. The adoption agency is out of Utah and they place babies in less than 6 months. They are a home for unwed moms and only have newborns. It is called a act of love. The paperwork is less than other adoptions. I was going to go through ivf again but the bottom line with us is do we exaust all our finances and take a chance on none of it working or do we put the money into giving a baby a home full of love. I know some people do not agree with this at all and I am not meaning to offend anyone so please do not take this the wrong way. It is only an option. I am 44 and had my tubes tied 21 yrs ago. I could go through the sugery and hope for the best. That was our orginial plan but my chances were low so we went with Ivf. I prayed about it and adoption is not cheap but strangley enough the exact amount became available to us last week and I think that is gods way of saying do this. Good luck and sorry for long post. You are in my prayers. Love to all.
Rene
Everyone is an idividual and I say do what works best for you. So good luck to mstrex and Marty for trying a different path.
Today I decided not to wait until my next cycle and we are going to start the process now. I start the first set of meds in 3weeks and then the injections 12 days later, my transfer date will be approximately March 21 and therefore my 2ww will begin.
Best of luck and hugs to everyone.
Mstrex- that place in Utah sounds very interesting. I would love to learn more about it. I plan to keep trying and trying through IVF no matter what but adoption is definitely something I'd consider.
LJ- that's so awesome. Your beating Audrey and I to the punch. Which is ok. You'll start the 3-some off with a BFP! Come on girl!!! And hey you never know. My "mad scientist" RE might recommend my starting in March too.
Audrey- Congrats on your $50 buck win. I got one better... $200 for me and DH. We won both the 1st quarter and half time score. Which is great coming from the gal that didn't even glance at the TV really and has no clue about football. Sorry, not a sports fan even the superbowl :) They also had poker games going and DH won $30 buck. Ok so not enough to retire but we left happy!
Marty - how are ya feelin sweetie? I hope a little better. I know your so sad. Hang in there. Plan B is going to bring you a BFP. Hugs.
Good to hear from ya. Busy is a good thing...right? Are you watching the SuperBowl game? I just won 50 bucks! Halftime show was awesome... LOVE Prince!! It's countdown to your visit with the "mad scientist". Lol. I can't wait to hear what he says as well. One thing is for sure, our dates are gonna be close!! Yeah!!
Welcome Debbie,
Old?...45+ is the new 35+ girl!! So glad you decided to join us. Thank you for sharing your story. My prayers are especially with you tomorrow!! Please keep in touch.
Hi Rene,
So glad to hear that you and DH found an amazing adoption agency. I would love to get more info from you about this place...adoption is an option for us as well. When will you begin the process? Keep us posted!
Hi LJ,
Looks like you're gonna be the first to go! Can't believe that March is just around the corner. Is it true that in Canada you get 1 year PAID maternity leave? I only get 6 weeks. :(
The morning of my blood-test my beloved 12 year-old German Shepard, Sasha, had a stroke. We had to put her down in between finding out my results. And, cosmically, as one life departed another entered. I had a positive beta of 248. This still feels like a dream (and please know that I feel so heavy-hearted for those of you who didn't receive the news that I received) Of course I'm eager to get the second beta later today since my last cycle was ectopic and they discovered the high probability of that fate with my second beta. I'm trying to take things one day at a time.
Marty - I am broken-hearted for you and want you to know that I am sending positive energy and healing your way.
This is an incredible support network and I feel so grateful that I found all of you during one of the most tender times in my life. Thanks to each and everyone of you for your support and well wishes.
Rene, I totally understand your thoughts and am close to being there myself. I am glad you sent the info about the adoption agency because I was going to ask you for it. The donor process isn't cheap and its time consuming for an unknown result. I don't think it matters - you will love them the same as if you carried them.
Congrats Spoonfrau - I'm very happy for you! So sorry for the loss of you puppy though - I went thru that recently with one of my dogs - he was 14. I'm glad you will have another life in your house!
LJ - glad you decided to move forward again - this may be the time!!
Audrey and Nicki - congrats on your wins! Maybe those are signs for good things to come...
Marty - good luck with Plan B - I can certainly feel for you because I had the surgery issues myself. It's not as bad as you think it is going to be.
Toni - how cool to see those heartbeats and glad the bleeding stopped.
I am on pins and needles waiting for the BT result but I don't think a negative this time would be as hard as the first time. After reading all of your posts, I realize it may take a number of times and adoption is an option for us also (as long as they allow geriatric parents!) Thanks again!
I don't know if anyone is interested, but my sister-in-law told me about a doctor that she went to in Colorado (she flew there from Texas) that has highest IVF success rates in the US -I checked the statistics out of the CDC website and they have a 66% success rate. I was lucky enough to find a place in Redondo Beach, CA (where I live) that also had a fairly high success rate, but in the back of my mind I always new if it didn't work there, I would try her place in Colorado. Just in case anyone wants to look him up, his name is Dr. Schoolkraft - I guess he is known for being on the cutting edge of Reproductive Technology.
I hope everyone is doing well, and I wish you all the best of luck in which ever journy you choose to take.
Lisa
This has been a long weekend. I sit and cry I sleep and cry and try not to and cry again. I had some tissue come out and actually kept it in a napking on my drawer. My husband has been very concerned but does not know the pain I am feeling. He tried very hard to take me out and be there for me I on the other hand tried but could not put myself to have any fun. How could I a little part of me had died. Today is the new start of Plan B. I am going for the surgery and hoping for the best. If I do not get pregnant by 39 then maybe IVF is the way to go again. Right now I cant do it physically or mentally.
Has anyone here or know anyone that has had the tubal reversal surgery?
Thank you ALL for having me in your prayers. All us Mommies that got a negative need is time to grieve. Tomorrow I will tryt he gym and try to go back to some kind of normality.
I wish you all the best. This is such a hard journey. Only God can help us through it.
XOXOXO Marty
Well, I confirmed it today. We are on our way again. Our transfer date will be approx. March 22nd.
Hopefully Nicki & Audrey will be right behind me.
And yes in Canada our Maternity/Parental leave is paid for one year, they changed it in 2001.
All the best to everyone.
Hugs.
i think that you guys are great, i am pretty new at this chat room thing
i had my transplant of 08/22/07 12 eggs fertilised. 2 were transfered. i have been experiencing cramping, they did not tell me that this was normal, so i was scarred. i called by nurse and she re-assured me. i have been married for 5 years, never pregnant. my husband has a 19 year old, so the infertility lies with me. a very hard struggle for me and any other woman i am sure, but God has been my helper and comforter. i am praying that both embryos take. we awnt twins. good luck to everyone else
trini girl
Then if you have implantation bleeding, (16th-18 august) then would you already have hgc enough to show pregnant? in bloodtest on the 21st? NEGITIVE because i had bleeding 3 days before test, and im not sure weather would show positive just after 3days???
and i have had no other bleeding or signs of periods, but don't understand if after implant bleeding do you still have enough HCG TO SHOW POSITIVE IN TEST??
tHIS is my last egg i had 2 but only one made it, second try at ivf ,im am just so confused and hopeful, i just felt like i was pregnant, but negitive blood works, please if anyone has experianced this and was positive,,,tina
I had a transfer on September 1st and the waiting is driving me crazy. I am feeling so many different emotions right now that I can't explain them. Is there anyone who has experienced a successful IVF the first time or is it really unlikely?
It makes me happy to know that a part of my husband and myself are wrapped up in some kind of magical process of sorting out DNA.. I like to picture these little ones surrounded by a wonderful energy, a mandola, a beautiful spirit. I guess it is up to mother nature to decide how long these embryos are living organisms. I think she knows best. I try to remind myself constantly to accept the outcome and my choices, and to delight in the emphemeral beauty of these gorgeous embryos. Tomorrow, the doctor will show me the three on this overhead screen where they are magnifed for my husband and I to look at before the doctor does the transfer. They are sooo beautiful. This third IVF round I am much more relaxed. I try to live in the moment.
MJ
So, now the wait! And cramps. They have gotten worse since the transfer. I feel so gassy. It was helpful to read everyone's comments before this all started to remind me of those cramps. I don't know if they mean much in terms of outcome. I realize that some of the cramping might be due to the embryo attaching to the lining. But I think it is just a general side effect of IVF. I wonder if they are a result of all those meds? Anyway, last night I leaned over in bed to pull up my the down blanket at the end of the bed, and I really ended up hurting my tender stomach by doing a forward bend. Very sharp pain. What's that about?
Also, I became worried when the city sprayed pesticides the night after my transfer (for mosquito control). These trucks drove by with spray very close in front of our house. I begged my husband to quickly close the windows. My husband reminded me that my uterus provides excellent insulation. I pray for lots of protection for the embryos.
Wishing you lots of good luck MFPL!
New to this site. I am 31 yo and have been ttc for about 3 years. We have gone through a total of 6 IUI's with a mixture of clomid and injectables with no success, so we moved to IVF.
This past Wed 09/19, we had our ET. I am having some mild cramping. I have read the prior posts about cramping, however they seemed to be experienced later in the cycle.
Have you had any cramping after 1-2 days after the transfer?
Jodie
hopeless in seattle
problem is that if you test too early you can have a false positive from the hcg shot, or be pregnant and test negative if done too early
Here's to all other ivf failures--just try again and again--it's got to work eventually!! nobody said it was an easy process
Hopeless in Seattle: I am so sorry. Keep on trying. Cry, but don't let it keep you down. Please don't be hopeless. Have hope, no matter what dr. says. My doctor told me that I would never get pregnant. So there! I bet he is very surprised I got this far. But heck he supported me in my attempts, it's his job to be skeptical I suppose. I just try not to take it to heart.I took great courage in the story of my husband's boss. He did IVF with his wife. They had only one embryo at transfer. The wife had a healthy baby as a result.
jrs45 As for cramping, I had them 1-3 days after the procedure in all of my attempts. This time the cramps got worse as I approached my blood test day. But honestly, I had cramps the last couple times when I was not preg. I feel like I'm about to get my period right now. But my hope is that what I am feeling (now that I know the results of my first HCG test as positive) is the embryo embedding itself in my uterus.
I've decided that cramps are just a fact of life when it comes to IVF, whether you are preg or not. This is my third try (first two were unsuccessful), and in all of my attempts, cramps were part of the territory. You can't use them as an indicator that things are going bad or good. They just are. Nurse told me to take Tylenol as needed. Oh yes, she reminded me to keep up with fluids. Also eating light HEALTHY frequent meals help. Fiber and prunes to help with the effects of progesterone. I also got some special tea from Whole Foods called Yogi Tea, Woman's Mother to be. This seems to relieve cramps. Whether you are preg or not, we have put our bodies through so much by hyperstimulating our systems. Cramps seem to be our bodies way of dealing with it all.
Any advice?
Thanks! The Husband
Thanks!
Amy
hopeless in seattle: Thank you so much for the kind words! I'm a bit on pins and needles in regards to the HCG wait game.
Courage!
I read earlier that you had a positive HPT / the blood test was positive!!!! I'm so happy for you and wish you the best. Keep us posted!
I really need to talk to someone so I thought this is the best way. I had 3 IVF this year and now I am in my waiting period!! It has been 7 days today since the implant but I really feel depressed today coz since last night I've been having continous period cramps and drop in tempreature. I feel as if my period will come down!! I am sick and in bed!!! Can someone please tell me if this is a sign of IVF failure?? Is this normal??
I had lots of cramping during all my IVF attempts. Like you, I am on my third try. This time I had even more cramps.
Turns out I was pregnant. And they worsened during my fifth week, now only to subside as I go into my sixth. Conclusion: whether you are pregnant or not you may have cramps post IFV. Cramps are not a good indicator about how things are going.
If your symptoms worsen, talk to your doctor. I talked to the nurse about my cramps and she said it is ok to take Tylonol, and not to worry.
Hang in there.
Tresa4life: the body will not secrete HCG in the urine until day 12-14 after conception, so that is like day 7 after your embryo transfer if you transfered a day-5 blastocyst.
I am on day two post FET (2 embryos) and have bad lower abdomen cramps, been lasting two hours now. I feel like I am about to get my period. I feel very much so as if this one did not take either. It is hard, but oddly comforting to hear others going through the same thing. We need to hear positive results on this site, so I promise to revisit if all goes well (and I'm sure I'll be back again if it is another failed cycle :)
Julie
Kristie
Kirt- I would think you shouldnt try a HPT b/c you are scheduled for BETA on day 14 post conception. THE EARLIEST you could test is day 12 post fertilization (today) based on my embryology background, but it may not be showing up in your urine that early. You also need a sensitive test that registers 20miu's or less. My recommendation is to just wait, especially given "mom612"'s response! Are you still having cramps? could it be a "pulling sensation near the hips? or is it definitely cramping in the center of your abdomen?
baby2169- you could try Friday, but just KNOW it could very well be a false negative.
As for me, my BETA is scheduled for 17 days post fertilization (day 5 blast FET), so I will be testing this Saturday. My cramps have gone, I have very slight othe symptoms (boobs feel heavy, twinges in my abdomen area, light-headedness) but they all can be symptoms of AF and they could be psychological. So I too am trying not to think about it or look at the signs.
Hope everyone else is doing well, please keep us posted as to BETA results (and HPT's too!)
Kristie
I also have a blood test on Monday 10/15, but my Doctor wants to test me Friday 10/12 as well. So maybe your wife could get a sensitive HPT and try over the weekend?? Or just wait and see. I was definitely disappointed when I saw the negative, but my hopes are up for the blood tests.
Good luck.
Has anyone else had spotting?
To the others, good luck, the 2ww is tough! Let us know how it goes.
Kristie
Fingers crossed for you.. when is your pregnancy test?
MGraham & EmmyJ - I've also had cramping throughout my waiting period (I'm now on Day 17 post retrieval) and the cramping was severe this weekend when I was spotting. I am extremely bloated and uncomfortable so I understand what you're going through. Good luck to both of you at your upcoming tests. I go back on Wed. and Fri. for additional blood tests. They want to keep checking my levels until it reaches at least 1000.
All- has anyone experienced an ectopic pregnancy? When do the symptoms start and how severe are they?
Thanks.
Thanks,
Amy
Let's check it out!! I will be back with all my details and hopefully can participate with everyone :-).
Be back!
Leeace
Well, Let me give you guys some of the low down. The big picture:
I am 38 years old (unfortunately a smoker!! -wondering if anyone else is a smoker and did ivf.)(yeah it is pretty shameful, but if anyone who has ever smoked (cigarettes) then they know the difficulty quiting!! However!! When I found I was pregnant with my son during my first marriage, I got sick 5 weeks PG, and couldn't smoke. It made me sick!!! I didn't pick it up until after he was born. That was 13 years ago ( My first husband used me to have a baby. He was also 20 yrs. older then me. His motivation was that he wanted a baby, and he was gay(closet gay!!!). As soon as my son was born (literally!!!) he filed for divorce, and won instant custody b/c he IS a phucking lawyer!! I never got my son back. I lost my mind for 4 years!! after that!!! I went to law school so I could fight, but after I won and got have visitations, my son, got tired of coming over (probably b/c the bond was strained for him, b/c that son-of-a-***** STOLE him from me 3 mo.s after birth!! That is a early and tragic separation!! My son refuses to see me. So, I don't see him at all anymore, and just send him cards every single holiday. My heart is broken. I am sure if I become pg. that some sad feelings will come back of my loss!! Yes, I almost died from grief and trauma after that SOB set me up!! Then I met my present husband. He is a pretty good guy.
My DH is 58 years old. He had a vasectomy reversal in June of 2006 from being 26 yrs. out. He restored a normal sperm count afterwards but had sperm ANTIBODIES (immune system attacks the sperms b/c it came in contact with blood!! All it takes in one contact for any man, and boom!!! he will develope these as an immunological response. Sperm motility is severly affected by this. Even though his motility is 20% (not too bad) his forward progression is NOT good. They swim "in place."
So, that leaves us with our #1 IVF treatment
Baselines: FSH (4.0) last year; (5.19) this year. Basal Estradiol Level: 40.19. Antral follicles: 21/19
After stimulation:
October 23, 2007: Egg Retrieval: 24 eggs retrieved, 21/24 were mature; 15 fertilized via ICSI; 12 made it to blast, BUT, 5 good quality blasts were frozen, and 3 blasts with quality of (2+, 2+, 2+) were transferred. RE said 2+ is damn near a 1, and has the same implantation success rates as a 1. ( I guess we will see???)
October 29, 2007: 3 Blasts were transferred!! I think he recommended transferring 3 because I shamefully :-( smoke :-(. Supposedly lower rate of implantation. The most notible scientific study says the average is 23% for nonsmokers, and for smokers over 10 cigs a day it is reduced to 15%. Then there was a minority of heavy smokers that had the opposite effect!!!! Every egg took!!! Ended up with multiples!!! Weird!! better rates then nonsmoker.
November 2, 2007. Urine Test HPT "POAS": BFN!!!!!!!! :-(
November 5, 2007: Took another Urine Test HPT, and saw a VERY, VERY faint line. Told my Mother I thought my eyes where playing tricks on me!!
( THIS BRINGS ME TO MY FORUM TOPIC DISCUSSION: HOW MANY OF YOU TOOK URINE TESTS AND GOT A (VERY) (VERY) (FAINT) LINE??????
I can barely see it, but it is there??? I even took an ovulation test made by the same people to see if my mind was playing tricks on me. Because naturally, we all know that it is NOT going to test positive. Well, I did NOT see a line on that one.
Okay, here were my symptoms:
Oct 30: Transferred 3 blasts. I felt what maybe was an implantation feeling a few hours later. Do you want to know what it felt like? It felt like someone DROPPED ACID on a very small part of my uterus. It's like NO feeling I have ever had before!!! Except when I thought I may have had a chemical pg. on a natural cycle with my DH. Then later that same night I felt it again. It felt like acid being dropped. Or it could be compared to the likings of a small probe being heated up and cinged on a pin point of my Uterus. Wondering if TWO attached b/c it happened twice.
Oct 31: I had an "orange-ish pink" spotting on toilet paper. Not sure what it was to tell ya the truth, but that was it. No more.
Nov 1 - Nov 3: Intense Hunger pangs. Frequent urination. ( sore boobs, but I attribute that to the progesterone. I still have sore boobs!!)
Nov 2 : POAS----BFN :-(. Not even a faint line.
Nov. 4: Light headedness. Some cramping, but very mild.
Nov 5. Feel like AF was coming on in the evening. It is those type of cramps. Took HPT again, and if my eyes are not playing tricks on me then I definitely see a VERY, VERY faint line.
Does anyone else have these? Please share everything? Especially how implantation may feel, and what did you see if you had a "faint" line on the HPT. I did that HPT 7.5 days after the transfer.
My mother thinks I am definitely pregnant ( guess she wants me to be) She is already getting on me telling me that I am going to need a "Peri-Doctor" whatever it is called for multiples. She thinks I am going to get pregnant with all three and tells me that I can't do it b/c I am only 5 feet tall (Mom is also 5 feet tall) She is talking selective reduction already. That is bothering me. :-(. Hope I don't have to make that decision b/c I don't think I can :-( I want a pregnancy, but on the other hand I KNOW I can't handle triplets for my size, and it is very dangerous for them as well. I am scared b/c my beta is on November 7,07 at 7:30 am. I canNOT for my wildest dreams fathom a BFP. I don't think I will believe it if I hear it.
Nov 7: Will have my first beta test. I don't think I can answer the phone later that night.
Leeace
Leeace
Took a urine test at local doctor's office this morning!! The line was NOW dark!!! Also, the two I took yesterday, well let me tell you, the line is more discernable now! Still faint, but much more noticable. So, if you see a faint line, and really can't make it out, wait a half a day and then look. Disregard what the instructions say on the box about catching it in the first 10 minutes to be accurate. I believe those instructions are for product statistical purposes only. Companies can boast on HIGHER reliability percentages when they can limit the reliability factor within a smaller window.
Now, I am just nervous about how many of the embryos stuck??? YIKES.
One small note I must make. My heart goes out to those that have been trying for a long time. I have read many posts throughout the years and my good news for myself is taken with a grain of salt because I think of those that have not been so lucky. Keep up the hope! And hopefully the money will be there to support your endeavors. If this first IVF cycle did not work for me, then at least I had 5 embryos/blasts on freeze. FET is much cheaper. I am now glad that they disqualified me from the shared risk program at the last minute because I was a smoker. I really thought I would get preg. the first time b/c my DH had the vasectomy, and nothing was wrong with me. That disqualification SAVED me $12,000. Thus, their investors who decided to disqualify me lost! Ha Ha! As for the smoking, well, I always believed that one's fertility was closely tied to the maternal genes of one's own mother's fertility. My mother is 61 years old and went through menopause at 59 yrs. old. which if you subtract 13 years from that would put her not declining in fertility until she was 46 years old. Her mother which is my grandmother had a baby naturally way back in the day at 47 years old. So, yes, I believe it is 99% genetically determined. I am not proud of my smoking, nor am I proud of the many years that I partied as a young women (never did psychedelics, nor hallucinigens (pot)((these are drugs that are know to alter genetic makeup of fertility)), but my point is that I believe that the enviromental factors are outweighed by biological factors. Anyway, good luck to everyone. I will keep everyone posted when I get my beta results tomorrow. And I will keep you all posted about how many heart beats I get at the U/S.
My symptoms today are the following: Intermittent sharp/but mild pain in right ovary. Some light headedness, and very frequent urination (every 4 hours, including waking up all night long).
What was different for me this time with a BFP+++ is the following: I felt the implantation the day of transfer, and the night of transfer as an "acid" burn type of dropping in only a small pin point area of the Uterus(basically implantation is a "chemical reaction" thus it shouldn't surprise one if they feel like an acid burn in the area of implantation). It only happened twice. Once it happened it was gone (very different sensation to anything ever felt in there). Also, the next day I had an orangish-pink spotting on the tiolet paper just once. It was very watery/ diluted!! No clots or any kind of thickness about it. Also, the frequent urination was a big key. I hadn't had that the other times I thought or hoped I was pregnant. Also, the first couple of days after implantation I had intense hunger PAINS!!! not pangs!! yes it hurt!!!! I had to eat. That never happened before, except when I was pg. with my first son. As for sore boobs well, that is from the progesterone, and estradiol. The cramping is no different from AF. That's it!! I am anxious to hear from the rest of you guys. My right ovary really hurts. I hope I am okay and not getting OHSS. I was in big danger of that during my cycle. So much so that they forced my hand with giving a bottle of percocet. They told me that I was going to be in a lot of pain. Well, that didn't happen. Oh, one more thing. I was only bloated for the first 4 days after transfer. When I woke up on Friday morning, the bloating was completely GONE!!!! I am still not bloating. I think that is it. I Just look forward to all your postings. Where is everyone for that matter anyway????? It has been a few days since anyone has posted except for me. I feel like I am writing to myself. LOL.
You all are in my prayers!!!!
Leeace
I am 31 years old with endometriosis. Had my first IVF cycle starting in October 2007. had a cyst aspirated and a two weeks before the ER. We collected 12 eggs and 9 fertilized. 6 turned into blastocysts. We transferred 2 embryos on Nov 4. now I am waiting and it is torturous. need to take the test on sunday and am going out of my mind. The day after the transfer I felt a slight cramp. Everyday since (am on day 9 today) i have felt on and off mild cramps. I am so scared that this is a sign of AF coming on....I am trying so hard to stay positive but its really hard. I was justwondering if anyone else if feels the same about the cramps?
Congratulations Leeace! I am sooo happy for you! When do you take your blood test to confirm. Sorry if I missed that in the post...
lots of babydust
sal
Well, I am S C R E A M I N G out of my mind right now!!! Today, was the day of my blood test. To start the day off, I got up at 6:30 am this morning to get ready to go get the blood test. When I returned to my freaken bed room my German Shephard Dog was on the floor. She collapsed!!! Her entire right back leg gave out completely!! She could not work. I was screaming my phucking mind off!!! I told my husband to get the blanket and let's get her in the van. We had to carry her. The whole way to the doctor all I could think of that good news is now wraught with bad news. I was 100% positive that we were NOT going to be bringing her home.
So, I take her to the blood test w/ me and my DH. When I get out we take her to the Pet Emergency Center. They charged us $150 to tell us that we had to see a Neurologist. We drove an hour a way to get there, and they charged us $350 to tell us to take her home and keep her quarantined for 8 weeks that it may get better. He said she must of ruptured a disc b/c she does have feeling. The most important thing to a good prognosis if there is going to be one. Anyway, although I feel better about the dog not having to be put down today, I would have never had done as well as I did without knowledge of my postive pregnancy test. That is all I could think about. So, I asked my husband to get home as quickly as possible so I could take a nap before he and I took off to do his job (he does long distance night driving for UPS). I really don't like going with him, but I promised I would b/c he gets so lonely driving for 8 hours straight everyday. We were going to take the dog and make her bed in the back, b/c we weren't going to leave her home alone like this. She is a real good dog!! Infact, she is lying in the bed next to me sound a sleep.
Now, I am not done my story yet. When we got home, I got in bed to take a nap. Then as soon as I got confortable my phone rang. Yep, it was Fertility Clinic with my beta results. The lady on the other end said I had a positive pregnancy test. But, I am still not finished yet. As she continued, she told me that my beta numbers were only 10.7 and that this pregnancy is not going to take. Well, I was pissy. Because she continued on telling me that they like to see 50 to 100 ranges. I agree with her. I am not dumb!!! I know that my beta levels are on a decline. So, she continues to tell me that if I have severe cramping and/or bleeding to call the clinic. I got real nasty and said, "why?" "What is so abnormal about cramping or bleeding if I am going to have an early misscarriage, which is really no different the getting your period. I had a chemical pg. before years ago and that is how it worked. What could possibly put me in any danger, and what can they do for me anyway? They sure arn't going to put me on a morphine drip, or even give me any codiene for that matter, so what is the sense of calling? Shouldn't I expect to get cramping and bleeding? I mean come on, you just told me that my beta numbers are going down. I am an intelligent girl. I have a doctorate degree myself, albiet, it's not in medicine, but yeah, I was a chemistry major for my undergrad so I know about stupid things like levels and the reality of what it means to be where I am with respect to those levels: failure.
Okay, I have been sobbing and crying my freaking eyes out. I locked myself in the bathroom and starting screaming w/ my mom on the other end of the phone. I should have never told people that I was pg. I feel so stupid now, on top of being devastated. Well, I am tucked in bed and I am exhausted. My husband said I did not have to go with him tonight. He said that he didn't need me screaming down the road while he was driving. I am glad! I hate going with him. It is so boring.
To make matters worst is that when I told my DH that I was pg. he was not real happy. He looked like he saw a ghost. He never wanted this, but he is doing it for me. He not against it, but he is not crazy about it. Most men who have had vasectomies get them for a reason, dah!!! But, he has hung in there and done everything to help me. He drove me to every single appointment and gave me all the shots. He not a bad guy, but I didn't feel like he shared in my joy either. He definitely is more concerned about the dog (probably b/c it is more real to him). I really didn't expect him to get to upset if this didn't work out for me. However, he is NOT mean, so don;t let me get the facts wrong. He just isn't into it like I am, that's all! If it weren't for him I would probably wallow in this for weeks, and then end up in the gutter b/c I can't work!, can't take care of myself, and would rather just get in bed and roll the covers up and NEVER come out!!
Today was the worst day of my life!!!! 11-7-7. Ironically, this is the anniversary day of me meeting my ex-dh, who was nothing short of an "evil monster." I say this b/c he stole my first child, and then I ironically get caught up and fall in love with a man that had a vasectomy (present dh). I always wanted a lot of kids, and I am now 38 years old with none!! Nothing short of ironic justice. I never thought I deserved this. Oh, well, maybe my destiny is telling me something.
Okay, I won't lament anymore to you guys. I am sorry that I did. If it serves any purpose, it just is another example of how painful this is for everyone going through it and it now working. Trust me, you'll scream, scream, scream. My biggest screaming is that I am NOW stuck with a mother phucking $10600 loan at 19.9% for something that didn't work. Our payments are $289 per month for the next 5 years!!! Un F'n believable!!! Devastation at it's finest! And nothing to show for. How punishing to have to make payments on something where you got nothing.
Unbelievable is all I can say.
I wish you all better luck then me. I guess the smoking caught up with me after all. Everything went perfect up to a BFP+++ HPT., and then the very last step of the HCG beta, I fall off board the ship before reaching the onsight port.
:-(
I am going to sleep tonight.
you had to take out the loan, because you had to try--to be able to know you had tried everything
sleep well...
this is my 3rd day after transfer and i have cramps in my stomach is this normal
this is my 3rd day after transfer and i have cramps in my stomach is this normal
To gemzy: I am eight days post transfer. I had cramping from day three until day six. The cramps have stopped now. Cramping is normal for most transfer patients. It can be a sign of implantation or it can be a side effect from medication. Try not to worry, which I know is easier said than done. My doctor said to take Tylenol and that really helps. Good luck and let us know how things go.
Buggieboo
please do not give up hope symptoms come and go throughout the 2ww. Partly due to the fact that you get used to the meds(I am assuming you are taking the progesterone). Just hang in there. I too am in the 2ww I go tomorrow for my blood test. Keeping my fingers crossed for us both.
feather2e
I have also been reading all the posts. It is so great to have a forum like this? Today is my 9th day waiting. 2nd IVF, 3 embryos on the 3rd day, 1 frozen from this cycle. My cramps today are more severe and they occurred when I move. I also have a discharge although I am taking Progesterone injections. Yesterday I was told my Progesterone was 15 and it was a bit low. So they up my Progesterone intake from 1 to 1.5. First blood test on Friday. I cannot wait but I won't drive myself crazy. Best of luck to all and sweet dreams.
Mercedes
My egg transfer took place yesterday (11/09) in Norway and I am back home now not feeling too grand. I have lower back pain and stomach cramps and getting myself upset thinking it all has not worked out I don't do the pregnancy test until the 24th (this is my second attempt) also Taking cyclogest so hope it is the drugs fault.
just need words of encouragement. This is the first time I have posted on a board like this but reading all of the comments i konow i am not the only one out thre feeling this way. xx
JK312. Try and remain positive. I know this is the hardest time ...... waiting. Cramping is always a good sign. Just try and rest. Goodluck. Believe me I was the same as you, extremely worried, tears etc. I convinved myself I wasn't pregnant.
I am new to this site and have been reading everyone's post's daily.
It has been extremely helpful to see all of the diffrent answers people have . I am in my 2ww and we go this Thursday 3/5/09 for our bloodtest. We had 2 embryos transfrd on 2/21/09 and I have been going stir-crazy. I started having light cramps the day after transfer and then as the days passed they started getting very bad, they were waking me up at night and i was so worried that the cycle did not work. i called my dctrs ofc everyday almost to find out if my cramps were ok and normal. i even went into the office to be checked and i was fine. so to sum it all up, we are 2 days away from BT and cramping is normal and fromwhat i was told by the dcts ofc, (cramping is good in the ivf world).
My BT isn't until the 18th which seems really late-that's like 12 days if you count the transfer day (transferred at 8 AM--do you count that day as day one?
Thanks, and baby dust to all!!!
P.S: Don't forget to let us know what happened :)
I just bumped on this site today!I am in my 2ww and feeling a bit more positive than my first 2cycles.
I had cramps for about 3days and now it's stopped.
I am hoping for a poitive after a 3yr wait.
Any of you guys on the same schedule as me???