Im loosing my baby.......plus low progesterone

Hello, i have posted several times about my issues.  Doc says i might have blighted ovum at 6 weeks.  Hcg rising but not doubling.  Empty sac on ultrasound.  Scheduled for nov 7th when im 8 weeks.

I just got a call from Doc, my second opinion, and said my progesterone level is only at 6.5.  He told me normal levels should be over 20.  I started spotting this weekend even more.  But it was brown. It's slowly picking up.  I have prayed over and over and im so frustrated.  I just want it to be over so i can start over.  It's almost like i know im loosing my baby but im in denial ladies.  I cant, I mean its taking all of me to loose hope.  Im wondering should i just go by my symptoms or what.  If my hcg and progesterone level are low plus im bleeding, should i call it quits and schedule the d&c or wait till Nov 7th.  That seems sooo far away.  I want to be pregnant by Dec hopefully.  But if my progesterone is so low will it happen again in the next pregnancy.  I never knew being pregnant would be so stressful.  I feel as if my joy of being pregnant is robbed by the constant thoughts of miscarrying as well as the doctors and their need to make me look at every little thing.  So what if my numbers didn't double, they still rose.  Doesnt that stand for something.  Sorry ladies if i sound neg, that is not my intention im just so fed up with these numbers and having the perfect pregnancy.  To quit or not to quit is the question?????  I've prayed over and over and i always ask for signs if somethin is wrong and im starting to think God is showing them.

[Momoftwogirls]

oh - I'm so so sorry!  I think your decision is a very personal one - and only one that you can make. What is right for some might not be right for you. It is so hard though.  Reading your post was just like reliving my last week - right down to the progesterone levels. Mine was 6.4 I think.  My hcg fell 1,000 in two days though - didn't rise. Are they going to draw again to see what the hcg levels are doing? I might be curious and do that again before I call it quits. But like I said - a very personal decision.  I'm so sorry you are going through this. I wish we all had happy endings every time.  Let me know if you need anything.

[MelzieWelzie]

I'm so sorry for what you're going through.  I definitely feel your pain since I just went through my 2nd consecutive m/c.  I felt the same way--was not willing to give up.  I think you have to feel that way--otherwise how would the miracles happen?  It's such a personal decision on which way you proceed, but whatever it is, it has to feel right for you.  I would go back to 1 or both of your doctors and get one of them to prescribe progesterone (suppositories or oral pills).  If you do have a viable pg, the extra progesterone will help your body to hold on to it.  If they don't or won't prescribe it there's progesterone cream that you can buy otc.  If the pg is not viable, the progesterone won't help.

15% of normal pgs don't double like they ought to, so I'm not sure why docs put so much faith in that.  I know it's not a good sign if they don't, but it also doesn't mean it's over.

Also, I know it's not a good sign that they only saw a sac at your 6 wk u/s, but maybe your ovulation was either later in your cycle than you thought or in some cases women can ovulate twice in 1 cycle.  If you were let's say only 5 wks along, it's not uncommon to just see a sac.

I'm not trying to give you false hopes, but I know how hard it is to let go until you know for sure in your heart that it's over.  There are a lot of misdiagnosed m/c's, and you'll ask yourself a lot of "what ifs" if you proceed with something you're not ready for yet.  If it were me, I would probably wait until the 8 week appt and if there is still only a sac, make a decision on what to do then.

I hope you have a miracle!

[sane4once]

melzie, i noticed your hcg didnt double on one of your posts, was curious if your still pregnant.... i'm going through the same thing as you were, hcg did'nt double but i have a heartbeat at 6 weeks 127 and now am 7 weeks with u/s tomorrow....scared

[baby4Staci]

First off you ARENT QUITTING!!!  If they didnt see a baby at 7 weeks pregnant, you are bleeding, and the progesterone is low, then a baby hasnt developed.  If you are bleeding i would say skip the D&C especially if you want to be pg by December.  If you have a D&C then they will make you wait at least 1 cycle before trying again.  If you allow your body to miscarry naturally then your uterine lining will be better off to support a new pregnancy right away.  

I know you will hate to hear this but everything happens for a reason.  I wish you lots of hope and baby dust.  Also.. just like a previous poster said.. let them know you will be trying again right away so they can properly monitor your progesterone so that you dont have another loss.

I am so sorry for the loss of your precious baby..

[kiesha.b]

I know this sounds crazy but i dont know if im still pregnant or not.  I am currently having some bleeding but not enought to say it's a confirmed miscarriage.  But you shouldnt worry hun!((smile))  Everyone is different.  Your numbers dont necessarily have to double and you could still have a healthy baby.  In my case the ball is just not in my court.  My progesterone is only 6.5 ,my hcg is low, as of oct 19 it was 9099 and oct 25 it was 10,590.  so not a big difference.  And now im spotting.  Im a very sensitive person and i know it's going to be hard for me.  Im hurt by whats happening but it's out of my hands.  I always pray for people and I often tell God that if it takes, taking away one of my blessings so that someone else can be blessed then so be it.  I guess thats whats happening.  So im okay.  somthing else is in store.  Just pray about it and hopefully all will go well with you k!  Good Luck and keep me posted.(((hugs)))

[specialteacher]

So sorry to hear what is happening.  I agree that it is a VERY personal decision.  This is my story.  I started to bleed at around 7 weeks pregnant.  By the time I went to the doctor I had been bleeding for 2 days.  The U/S showed an empty sac with no baby.  I scheduled a D&C for the next day.  The doctor told me it was my choice but by then I wanted everything to be over.  It was my first pregnancy and I didn't want to draw things out any longer.  I was very sad but things are starting to get better.  I hope everything turns out okay for you.  Know that whatever you decide to do will be okay.  There is no right or wrong choice.

[thendricks]

i'm sorry to hear your situation, I too had this issue with a blighted ovem pregnancy, I agree there is no right or wrong answer but I decided to get the d&c right away, the stress and wory you will put your self through for the next 7 days isn't worth it, the truth seems that you don't have a viable pregnancy and their is nothing wrong with going a head now instaed of later, some ppl will differ in opinion, but mine is to go ahead with it now, get yourself healthy so you can start again as soon as you have recovered. I have been in your shoes more than 1 time and it is agonozing, i'm sorry and will keep you in my prayers

On my 8th pregnancy
Blessed w/1 living child
and blessed with a healthy pregnancy now at 20 weeks :-)

P.S. My advice to you is as soon as you find out your pregnant again, go to the OB and have them check your progesterone levels
I too have low levels and it was thw cause of my losses and as soon as it was realized they put me on progesterone suppositories, it worked for me

[MelzieWelzie]

Here's a link that explains hcg levels.  Scroll down to hcg levels and ultrasounds:

http://blogs.webmd.com/pregnancy-and-infertility/

This is another link that states that 85% of normal pg's double which implies that 15% don't double:

http://www.americanpregnancy.org/duringpregnancy/hcglevels.html

Sane4once,
Unfortunately, I ended up miscarrying.  The dr. was "cautiously optimistic" when we detected the heartbeat 2 wks in a row.  Sadly, nothing the next week.  It sounds like yours has a much healthier heartbeat.  In my case the fetal hb was 110.  I hope you have a happy healthy pg.

My Dr. wanted to do a d&c just based on hcg levels alone, but I wasn't ready. Then a few days later we saw the hb--dr. was in shock.  I've read of many misdiagnosed m/c in my research and even though it didn't survive, I'm glad I waited.  I think I would have been asking a lot of what ifs.

kiesha.b,
I understand the turmoil you're feeling.  Whatever you decide, it will be the right decision for you.  If this one doesn't work out for you, I hope your next one is a happy healthy pg.

[AnnieBrooke]

If this one ends up as a miscarriage, do ask the doctor about progesterone supplementation.  At least you can do that one thing to feel more in control.  Good luck, honey.  (((HUGS)))  Annie

[kiesha.b]

Thanks for the advice ladies!  I'll keep you posted.

[deanne11]

Keisha, I

[kiesha.b]

Hi hun!  Your words are a shed of light on my situation.  Im having a hard time concentrating at work because of everything thats going on.  My husband wants to be lubby Dubby and im just not in the mood.  Girl I found myself blaming him, when he has no control over life, God does.  I thought that because we were arguing and we both said some things that we shouldnt have said so God took our baby back.  Not only that i wondered if he prayed hard enough.  Because of that thought i really have been so withdrawn.  We have an extra room in our house, which was going to be for the baby, and girl i went in there and just cried.  I mean litteraly couldnt keep it together.  I got on my knees and prayed and asked God to have mercy on me and spare my child.  Maby there was too much stress, girl i dont know.  But anyways, i'll be okay.  Im going to go ahead a wait until the 7th and make my decision.  But enough of that!(((smile))) I hope you are doing well.  How's everything going??

[tracyy]

Hi
i was 9 weeks and m/c- the hard part was that at 6 weeks i saw the babies heart beat....so we went to the doctor and thought we were having a routine check up and there was no heart beat..Ithought the doc said the baby hasnt grown since 6 weeks.since it wasnt even a fetus yet what does that mean???????    if it had a heart beat where did it go I never bleed once didnt pass anytthin........That day he told us we miscarried and sent me to a radiologist for an obsterical evalutaion to be safe..The tech said that there was nothing but any empy sac she didnt even see a fetal pole.  I dont understand where the baby went??  iknow it wasnt a little formed baby but if it had the heart beat where did it go?????????????? I was on progesterone since 3 weeks pregnant....The doc told me that its usually a sign that the preg is not viable....He had me do and d n c this way he can check to see if i m/c was due to chromosones...I think it was because of the low progesterone. i  know it I THINK!!!!!!   I had 2  other pregnancies and i felt a lot of morning sickness with them both i felt nothing with this lil one...iknow every preg is different but something was off withthis one.....I was just paranoid and scared that there was something wrong from day 1..Its like i knew something was wrong....  What if i get pregnant again ??  does that mean my progesterone willl be low again??  i dont know what to do....i was told  when a m/c happens so early a lot of the times its due to chromosones  i told my husband i want him to go have a karyotype!!!!!!  should i make him???  i want answers maybe his chromosones are a little off and he doesnt even know.............but dont forget i had the preogesterone issue..well if any one has any good advice i would appreciate it.....and for all those girls KEEP TRYING!!!   your baby will come when he or she is ready!!!     anyway love to all and god bless

[SeeingSpots]

So sorry about your loss... I went through 2 mc's in a row last year before carrying my son to term.  I don't know where the baby could've gone, if you'd seen it just 3 weeks earlier (and heard a heart beat).  I've been getting ultrasounds every 2 weeks with my current pregnancy, and at 6 weeks you could very easily see the embryo and heart beating.  Technically doctors do not call a baby a "fetus" until they are 8 weeks old; before that they are called a "embryo".  So that's what your doctor meant by it not being a "fetus".  I don't know if a baby could've "reabsorbed" in the 3 weeks since you last had the ultrasound or not.
As for low progesterone, it does NOT mean that your pregnancy wasn't viable.  I myself have had a problem with low progesterone levels (as do many other women).  If it's not corrected it can cause you to miscarry, however, many women have carried to term with the aid of oral or vaginal progesterone drugs.  I was on oral (Prometrium) with my son, and am on it now with my current pregnancy.  Did you carry your two previous pregnancies to term or where they mc's too?
If you get pregnant again, you may want to have your doctor put you on progesterone from the start (my doctor gave me the Prometrium to take starting the day after I ovulated until I took an ept; if I got a negative, I went off the progesterone; if I got a positive, I stay on it until the baby reaches 12wks.)
There are many reasons you may have had a mc... it doesn't necessarily mean you have a chromosomal issue.  I'd wait to see what your doctor finds out before you make your husband go and have a karyotype.  Sometimes there just isn't a reason, or it may be from multiple things.  I also am on a daily baby aspirin.  A lot of mc's come from blood clots forming in the placenta, and the baby aspirin helps thin your blood (to prevent clots).  I've never had a diagnosis of this, but after my 2 mc's my doctor put me on it just as a precaution.  A baby aspirin is a safe, cheap extra insurance just in case.  In any event, the Prometrium and baby aspirin worked for carrying my son, and so far is doing well with this pregnancy (almost 12 wks).   With a lot of prayer and searching around until we found a caring and proactive obgyn, we know that we are doing the best we can to sustain this pregnancy and hopefully future one(s).  Good luck, and I hope that the next time you get a BFP it's for keeps!!
P.S. with my son I had NO morning sickness at all-- healthy pregnancy.  So far with this one I've been sicker than a dog, and again, it's a viable pregnancy.  I really don't think you can "know that somethings wrong" just because you are/arent' sick.  I'd just be happy, if I were you, if you aren't sick the next time around!  I hate spending my mornings, noon and night hugging the toilet!! LOL!!

[tracyy]

you will know when the pregnancy is truely over...just take it easy a little .go back to the doctor next week...see if they see any change...  I dont think you are in denial i just think you are a mom prptecting your unborn baby..listen to your heart..you cant change anything by worrying and the stresss is not good for you or the baby...