TGIF ladies.......Open forum.........

[Emma1]

O.k., today is one of those days where the anxiety is taking over. This would normally be the time that I would ovulate and my right side is killing me. I hate these days....Maybe it will go by quickly.

Buckeye/Older mom - thinking of you both!!!!

Capermom, I don't think I got to tell you yesterday that it's wonderful news about your u/s! I know you must feel relieved and excited! What did DH say when you showed him the pictures?

Cheesetoo - thinking of you as well sweetie!

How is everyone else doing this morning?

[capermom]

Emma,Hey there. Gees, I can't believe you are going through pain from o. That's odd isn't it. I never heard of it. Of course, I never did have alot of symptoms of oing or pms like alot of women. I breezed through all of that stuff with out even knowing. I find as I'm getting older pms is kicking in the odd month. Only since I've stopped the pill though. AF's are liter too instead of heavier. Odd too. Oh well, we take what we get I guess.

DH loved the pictures. He is so excited now. I think we are going to tell our families now because they are going to figure it out anyway. I can't hide it any more. What about you, are you showing? I have a major pot and even the top of my stomache is swollen. I find that strange. Anyway, again, we have no control!

Well I hope everyone is doing well today. Again I would like to thank you all for your support the last couple of weeks. I do feel so much better, especially seeing the little guy moving around. That was awesome!

[Missy04]

Just wanted to say HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY just in case I don't get a chance to log on this weekend. Anybody have any major plans?  I'm just going to relax and make DH spoil me all weekend (not just Sunday)LOL.

[cheesetoo]

Hi Girls,

So you guys have a big weekend coming up.  What are you doing to celebrate your wonderful blessings on Mother's day?  Enjoy every minute.

Air head me, I missed it but where is your DH capermom?  I read yesterday that he is not around at this happy time.  Is he traveling for work?  Just wondering.  

Kassimom,  Goodmorning and have a great day.

Buckeye,  Thinking of you girl.

Hope2beamommy Thinking of you too.

Everyone have a wonderful Mother's Day.

p

[guinea920]

Caper-I am soooo excited for you!!  I knew there was nothing you had to worry about.  The reason why you are already showing is because your body has now been used to being PG--you will be showing alot sooner and feeling the symptoms alot stronger--at least that is what I have always heard.  An old wives tale that has most of the time held true in many of my friends is that if you don't have many symptoms-especially nausea that its most likely a girl.  Who knows--lol but its a thought.  Can't wait to see how you progress the next few months--To a Happy and healthy 9 months!

Still a mom-Congrats to you too!!!  This is truly a blessing and also happy and health 9 months!

CMN-I am sorry you are going through this but its always good to get out and try not to think about things.  You said in yesterday's post that you and DH were probably going to go on your quad and I thought wow--That is exactly what we do when we are stressing.  DH and I also just go out to the woods and kinda try to forget about it all.  I am thinking about ya girl and be strong!

Cazip-I sent you an email this morning.  6 days and counting till vacation.  I got AF yesterday so I'll be okay in Florida.

guinea

[Kassimom]

I hope you have a great weekend too! And you have a wonderful MOther's Day!

[Emma1]

Capermom - I look like I am 4 months preggo! I showed early with DD, of course that was 7 years ago, but this one has popped out like a basketball. I've been in maternity clothes since 7wks. I can't stand anything tight on my belly. That will be exciting about telling your family this weekend.

You should get the grandmother's, Mother's Day cards that say from you DH and baby. I wish I could have done something like that, but it didn't get to happen that way.


Cheesetoo - no big plans...Eating with my mom Sunday lunch and then his that afternoon. It's like when you get married you don't get to sit down and enjoy the day for yourself. You have to spend it going here there and everywhere. I think next year I will have everyone over to my house and then we'll have all together and get it done in one swoop! Sounds good to me!

[Kassimom]

That is what we have done every year except this one. Invited my family and my in-laws over for BBQ and celebrated it all together. And every year I got lucky because out of all the family SOMEONE would end up taking my DD home giving me and DH the rest of the evening alone!! I figure by next year, the pool will be in and we will have a 6 month old, perfect to start the tradition again, and hopefully family members will still WANT to take 2 kids!! :)

[Emma1]

Sounds good to me!!!! I know it sounds awful, but I hate having my whole day taken up by traveling to 4-5 places. It's too much. DH is going to see his grandmother today (she lives about 40 minutes from us) so maybe that is one less trip I have to make Sunday! I'm sooooo bad....

BTW, Dh loves the name Manhattan........We have to come up with something "Different" b/c DD is named Kennedy and I told him that I didn't want a common name for this one either.

[Missy04]

I actually heard the opposite that if you are really sick and have a lot of nausea that it is most likely a girl. I was sick all day for the first 12 weeks when pregnant with my daughter but with this one only sick mostly in the evenings or if I didn't keep something on my stomach.  Who knows about all those wives tales, but they sure are fun and good conversation starters.

[Still a mom]

Hey you guys. I am so happy. Everyone is telling me to take care of myself and my baby. I plan on it. Dh keeps calling me Mommy, which I love. I am so excited.

Anyway, how soon should I make an appointment to see the doctor? With Jacob I didn't go til 7 weeks, but I didn't know before that. Should I make an appointment already?

And will I probably start showing sooner with this one? I didn't really show with Jacob, but still have a little left over baby fat from him. I hope to show soon, I have cute summer/fall clothes I bought and want to wear them.

I couldn't keep from telling people. I want to shout it from the rooftop. We are planning on telling the church on Sunday. I really am trying to think positive about this pregnancy. I lost Jacob, I think, because of meds I was taking early on that messed his system up. I am going to watch everything I am taking now.  

I knew I was pregnant. I swear the minute this baby was concieved I felt that it was there. I just had a feeling.
mandi

[blondie72]

I would see if the doc will see you right away.  Considering what you have been through before you may have to be watched a little more carefully.  I am still so happy for you.  I do hope all goes well with you.  Like I said I do have a feeling this is it for you.  Good Luck and yes get to the doc.  Let us know how it goes and if you can get in right away.

[Emma1]

I agree with Blondie. They started doing u/s on me at 5wks and watching closely. It will give you some peace of mind that all is o.k. Good luck and CONGRATS!!!!

What a great Mother's Day gift!!!!

[mw45331]

I hope everyone has a great weekend and an outstanding Mother's Day.  We have a busy weekend so I am wishing all now.
Maria

[Missy04]

I think you should be seen right away by a physician.  Call their office and get an appointment.  However, I know in my area under "normal" circumstances (ie no miscarriages, or other pregnancy complications) most OB offices won't see you until at least 10 weeks.  I know a lot of the other ladies on here go much sooner but I think the majority of us has had some issues whether fertility, previous miscarriage, or high risk.

As for showing earlier with your second I think they say that (which I am finding true in my case) because after your first pregnancy your muscles and ligaments have been stretched and are much more lax causing you to show earlier.  This may or may not be true in your case depending on if you were showing or how big you were when delivering Jacob.

[Still a mom]

I called the doctor office and they said that they don't usually see woman until they are 8 weeks. I know that I didn't have problems during my pregnancy except that I lost Jacob, but I just want to be sure. I want to know my baby is alright.

It is so different to just think you are pregnant and to know you are pregnant. I feel like I am on cloud nine. I get to spend Mother's day with one of my babies. It is the best gift.
mandi

[Emma1]

That is so awesome for you!!!! I'm excited for you and DH both!!! Jacob's shining down on you  :)  :)  :)

[nurse12hr]

You are quite right that they usually won't see you until 8 weeks, unless you have issues of repeated miscarriage, bleeding, pain, etc.

Reason being is that there is little anyone can do to prevent most miscarriages that occur in the first trimester.  

Did you have an incompetent cervix with Jacob, or were the circumstances those of an unexplained stillbirth?  Please excuse my inability to recall--senility is setting in fast.

[Christina S.]

I am sorry if you thought it was meant ALL for you...I thanked you for seeing my post of feeling left out but mentioned what I had to say to get ANYONE to respond to me!
I used your name to originally respond to your comment about it all being full and hard to answer everyone's question's.
Then I went on as to what I though of this forum and your name happened to be in the heading.

Soooo....I do not expect YOU in general to answer my posts I know you have a life..That was not my point

[nurse12hr]

Apparently, I have a lot of apologizing to do.  

First, I apologize for taking up a comment space to do this.  We are very limited, but I need to say things.

I have been making people feel very left out, by responding primarily to people who: 1. Seem to be very distressed by a problem--2. Have lost or are losing a baby--3. Are asking a question about something to do with Labor and Delivery, which is my field of expertise--4. Have just found out they are pregnant after TTC--5. To be honest, I tend to make a quick comment to people I have been commenting to in the past.

This is not enough, so by way of apology, let me fill you in on what is going on in my life so perhaps you will all be aware of MY PROBLEMS and how they impact my quickly scanning the open forums and recognizing new questions.

1. We are in a bankruptcy proceeding.
2. We may lose our house
3. My son, who is an emotionally disturbed, pizza delivering high school drop out has just announced that he and his teenage wife are expecting ANOTHER baby.
4. I think my husband is cheating on me.
5. I work 12 hour night shifts, and only sleep about 3-4 hours a day.
6. I make frequent 200 mile round trip visits to my parents. My mother is in renal failure on dialysis, and my dad has Alzheimers and recently fell and broke his leg.
7. I can't afford to help my youngest son with his college anymore, so he has had to drop out to work and now hates me.
8. I am an 11 year breast cancer survivor, have had 2 mastectomies,  and worry every day that every ache and pain is a cancer reccurance.
9. I ruptured a disc in my back last year, had surgery and continued to work despite excruciating pain and fear of disability.
10.  Hey--I thought I had more problems than that!

Anyway--by NO MEANS TO I INTEND TO SINGLE OUT A PARTICULAR PERSON WHEN I MAKE A COMMENT, OR DO NOT MAKE A COMMENT.  Sometimes when I come here, I forget my own problems for a while.  Sometimes it is unbearable to think about my own life.

Again, I am sorry.  Sorry to take up a space here with a pity party.  Other people have problems, too, and I have no right to air my dirty laundry.  

[Christina S.]

(((christie))...looks like you need it!

[Older Mom]

Not sure how to do this. My wife asked me to post and gave me instructions!  (She's great!)  She's been admitted to hospital this afternoon with extensive bleeding.  I came home to get her favorite pillow and, at her request, update this forum on her condition.

We are waiting for word on surgery, she will require a D&C today to stem the bleeding.  

She wanted me to thank all of you for your prayers.  I thank you as well for the support you have been to her.  

A heartbroken father.

[Vickielyn]

I just logged on to see if there was any news from Older Mom.  I am so sorry.  I have been praying for you and your baby all day today.  I had a miscarriage in November of last year after trying to get pregnant for about eleven years - so I really know the pain and heartache that you all are dealing with.  As of today I still have a hard time dealing with it, but I pray everyday and just trust God to know that he knows what is best for my life.  I too had to have a D&C after only having known I was pregnant for about a week or so.  I know that by this being mother's day weekend doesn't make it any easier to deal with.  My family is planning a big celebration for all the moms, but I know that I will not be listed as a mother since my baby did not survive - I guess in some people eyes they have to actually see the child.  Anyway, tonight when I go to church I will definitely ask for a special prayer for all of you.  ((((hugs)))))
Vickie

[ourbabydreams]

Hello girls. Sorry I missed the last couple of days. I want to say YAHOOOOOOO to capermom on seeing your little wee one. I loved seeing Baby Emily when she was the size of a peanut. I thought she was the most beautiful little angel already.

Still a Mom I hope I am right. I have pg brain today and just had time to skim forum today. But a HUGE Congratulations on your pregnancy!!

Buckeye You are in my thoughts and prayers hon.

Someone was talking about clothes not fitting right and not liking clothes on the tummy well I am right there with you. It started early too about 7-8 weeks. Emily hates anything tight on my tummy. She gets all squirmy and kicks harder. I think she is telling me that this is her space not mine anymore lol.

Oh and Capermom I think I told you that I did not have very much m/s at all just at certain times around foods or smells. Well she is all girl. When we had our 20 week ultrasound she let us all know. She was mooning the ultrasound machine I swear lol. She was squating like a frog with her butt way up in the air. So maybe you get to buy lots of pink. If not boys are cute too lol There just awnrey lol And love to play in the mud and sand and if there is a watter puddle within 10 feet from them they have to. (I think it is mandatory) that they step right in it lol.

Christie I don't think you have anything to appoligise for. I was skimming through some of the other forums that med help has and noticed this is not the only place that you help with. I commend you on atleast trying to help the ppl that you can and answer as many questions as you can. I have read some of your post lately and know that you are going through your own family issues and you still try to help here. God Bless what you have done and will do to the girls and men that are helped by your support.

Older Moms Hubby. Thank you for the update and let her know that we are all thinking of her and sending her lots of hugs and blessings. I hope she has a speedy recovery and from the looks of it she has wonderful support. Take of yourself too and you will also be in our hearts and prayers.


To all the other girls I hope you all have a wonderful Mothers Day. We are going to be going to BBQ tomorrow and then a Rodeo on Mothers Day. Can't wear my Rockies and that stinks. I wonder if I put some kind of belt on I could he he. Gonna try so all of you with a good imagination can be laughing at me on Sunday lol.

Have a nice weekend
Christine

[cmn]

guinea920- Thank you for your kind words. DH and I love doing stuff like that, we love just going out into the woods to senting up our tent and camp for an evening. It does take your mind off things and lets you just relax, we have a couple of friends in town that want us to camp this weekend so DH is packing up the quad and getting ready to go. How are you doing today? Where are you from?


cazip- The weather here today is sunny and cloudy, it was really warm at around noon and it's gotten really cloudy and windy now. Did you get your test results back yet? How's the weather in Edmonton today? 2 more months and i'll be in Alberta watching the Stampede and maybe making a trip to Edmonton, just love going to West Ed when we get a chance to go there. How are you doing today?

[sthomab]

I am so sorry you have to go through such a tramatic experience.  I will be sending positive thoughts and prayers that everything turns out ok.  Just be thankful you have such a wonderful husband there to support you.  You need him now more than ever.  Please let us know how you are doing.  Suzie

[Still_AndiJ]

How about we all quit being so damn catty. We all have lives outside of this forum and to come on here pissing and moaning about not getting a post answered is ridiculous. If it distresses you so badly, please feel free to find another forum. I have seen a huge change in this forum in the last year and some great friendships formed as a result. Unfortunately, none of us can tell you if you are pg, if your baby is okay, if an OPK or HPT will work for you 100% of the time, or any number of the other questions that get asked hundreds of times. That is something that needs to be addressed by your doctor. So rather than waste the threads telling you that every single time you post the same question, I personally just mosey on past.

As Christie put it, most of us try to answer questions in which we have experience or knowledge. As much as it may hurt someone's feelings if we don't fill up what limited space we have with hello's and such, there just isn't enough time or space for that.

Christie is obviously going through a very rough time, but she shouldn't have to defend herself for not immediately jumping to our aid. No one should.

I have suffered 4 prior m/c, yet there is nothing I can say to someone going through it that will make it all better. Nor will I fall all over someone complaining they aren't getting enough attention paid to them. There are a ton of new people on here and unfortunately, posts get lost very quickly. I am certain I will catch hell for what I have written, but the beauty of it is I don't care. None of us are responsible for responding to every single post and none of us should be.

BTW, due in less than 2 weeks and quite hormonal : )

Andrea

[Still a mom]

We never really found out why we lost Jacob. I am pretty sure that it was because before I realized I was pregnant I was taking strong meds(even did some iv therapy) to get rid of chronic sinus infection. When we realized I was pregnant, I was told that we would not know just how much the baby was affected. Well I guess we know why now. I am watching everything I take now and am pretty confident that in 9 months will have a healthy baby.
Mandi

[Still a mom]

I was on day 23 of my cycle. My cycle is 28 days long now. Every site I go to says I ovulated on the 27 and concieved on the 28. That is bull, because I know I ovulated on the 24 and concieved on the 25. And according to a pregnancy calendar I had made that is just right according to the implantation date.
mandi

[Aurelia]

The other thread was closed, so I hope you see this here. If your doc is not monitoring you closely you could be putting yourself in danger. My doc closely watched me to avoid cyst problems. Also overstimulization of the ovaries can occur. The ultrasound needs to be done right before ovulation and it is possible your doc will want another at the end of your cycle. Make an appointment with your doc asap and find out his/her plan of monitoring you. If your doc is not planning on monitoring you, you need another doc. I realize you are short on time, but don't start clomid without your doc agreeing to monitor you. Its not worth it if you end up with more reproductive problems.

You can't just monitor with BBT adn LH surge kits. They can help but you need ultrasounds to make sure you are not growing huge cysts. BBT was telling me I was ovulating but ultrasound confirmed I wasn't.  

I took it on days 3-7. But the last month I forgot and started on day 4. Also, clomid can have some nasty side effects. I had horrid headaches, the worst periods immaginable, and nasty mood swings. I just want you to be careful, espcially since you are prone to cysts.

Good luck and I hope you can get in to see your doc soon. Sorry if I sound like I'm nagging you, I just want you to have a positive experience on Clomid. If your doc is not helpful, schedule an appointment with a reproductive endocrinologist. (They specialize in issues like this and are your best bet if you are short on time)

Like I said best of luck, I hope you get pregnant real soon!!!

[dawnna]

I am so sorry for what you guys are going through.I know how hard it is.We lost our frist baby 5 months ago today.And i to had to be put in the hospital because the bleeding was so bad.I also had a d&c.I will keep you both in my thoughts and preyers.
Again i am sooo sorry.
(((((HUGS))))))
Dawnna

[StephW]

Thanks for the advice and I will call my doc on monday, let him know my situation (DH deploying for one year) and maybe he'll get me in asap to set up u/s and everything else.

What about you? Did you ever get cysts? Like big ones, bigger than 4cm? And how long have you been on it? I think you said 3rd time you concieved? Maybe that's someoneelse, but just curious.  Also, the HCG, you think I should request to have that done too?

Thanks for all your helpful advice.  Appreciate it.  Oh and today is CD2...I was trying to call Doc today to ask him about taking clomid earlier than 5-9 but I didn't get ahold of him. So I can't call unitl MOnday, CD5. Tomorrow is CD3......should I start tomorrow or just wait and do 5-9? I just don't know what's best w/ MY situation. (no ovulation last 3 cycles, and usually late o when I did ovulate).  Any opinion on what would be better? I'd think earlier would be better???

[cmn]

older mom- I'm so sorry to hear what you are going through, i will keep you and DH in my prayers.

dawnna- I'm so sorry to hear about your loss as well, i just went through the same situation last week. I had a m/c on 04/27 and wish it hadn't happened, i will keep you and DH in my prayers as well.

[hther]

Dawnna,

I think we are cycle buddies so I wanted to leave my email so when the board is full we can remain in touch.

Everyone else, feel free to email me and ask anything you'd like. I'll help with what I can. I've had 3 losses in the past year and have stood by Chloe on and off the board and together we have shared experiences and learned so much from each other. I was also a medical assistant for a few years. I may not be quite as knowledgeable as Christie, Andij, and the other RN's we have here but I'm always willing to lend an ear.

***@****
  

[tweetyiniowa]

Ok, Im going to take a chance and post this again....I had posted it Wednesday on an open forum, since there were no more places to post a question...and no one responded...and this is really concerning me.  Things aren't looking good. On April 30 my HCG level was 11,105 and Wednesday May 5 when it was checked it was 11,001. The doc only said it looked "suspicious"...she scheduled me to have it taken again on May 12 and I go for an ultrasound again then too. Is it possible that this is still a viable pregnancy? Or the lab somehow made a mistake? Has anyone else ever heard of this happening? I've had no signs of a miscarriage...still have my symptoms...I don't understand! I was 8 weeks on Wednesday. Any advice would be appreciated...good or bad I need to hear it.
Thank you,
Robin

[cazip]

well blood test came back...BFN.  But I'm really okay with it.  Now I just need to wait for AF...where has she gone?

[ourbabydreams]

That does sound wierd. I do not want to give you false hope or not have any at all. But I also agree that ultrasound and more hcg tests need to be done. Did doc suggest any ultrasounds at all. And yes labs do make mistakes all the time even if the blood work was sent to the same lab. Putting a decimal point in the wrong place has happened to more then one person I know. I am not sure what kind of insurance you have but but if the doc is not going to do an ultrasound Maybe you could go have your blood drawn in the er or an urgent care facility. It just seems strange that your numbers were fine then two days later only change by a couple numbers. Even if it was a miscarriage they should have changed a more I would think. Maybe Christie or one of the other girls would know. I just woke up so I am sorry I am blabbering. But I want to send you a huge hug and I pray that the lab screwed up.

Take care hon
Christine

[Aurelia]

Right before I started clomid I was not ovulating and I was having "periods" every 14 days! It really sucked. So they put me on clomid to force a 28 day cycle plus make me ovulate.

I was only on clomid for 3 cycles. I didn't form any cysts but friends of mine have.  But the clomid did make my endometriosis start coming back, my doc said it could do that. If I wouldn't have gotten pregnant on the 3rd month, she was only going to have me try one more month because the endo started coming back so quick and she would need to treat it.

My doc said she usually goes with 5-9 but in my case wanted to try 3-7. I know starting on day 5 has worked for a lot of people.I can't remember what the difference was in starting on different days, but I know there is a difference. It had something to do with producing bigger eggs versus more eggs. But 5-9 is what most of my friends were on and it did make most of them ovulate.

One important thing is to have your doc tell you when to start doing it. My doc said not to do it everyday in a row, but to skip a day inbetween. This keeps the guy's sperm count up. And you start going at it about a week before expected ovulation (doc will tell you this based on what day you started clomid) and go until a few days after. This maximizes you chances, sperm can live in you for a number of days (3-5). Clomid can make you ovulate super early or late, once again a reason for ultrasounds to pinpoint your ovulation date.

If your doc is monitoring you, he will most likely he will opt to use HCG that way he can be sure you ovulated. My doc used it because my hubby and I were also short on time. She wanted to make sure we didn't waste time since they had determined I still was not actually ovulating the egg. What HCG does is push out an egg that is on the verge of ovulating. But if no egg is there, HCG will do nothing for you except give a false pregnancy test (make sure to wait 10-14 days after the shot before taking a pregnancy test, other wise you might get a false positive). HCG will ovulate the egg 24-48 after the shot. So make sure to ask doc if he will use HCG, he should be open to considering it at least.

I would wait until Monday if you can, just to be on the safe side. Demand to be squeezed in at your docs office, make sure to explain your need to hurry. Most docs are really understanding and will squeeze you in. If you start on Monday it shouldn't hurt your chances. You can always ask your doc if he wants you to try something different the next month just in case.

So wrapping it all up, here's what you need to ask the doc.
1. What cycle day he wants you to start on (this month you are stuck with cycle day 5, most likely that is what he will pick anyways)
2. Will he be using ultrasound to track egg production and possible cysts.Also will he use HCG to force that egg to ovulate?
3. Will you need progesterone supplements (you mentioned you were on these before) or will he test your progesterone levels to see if they are needed?
4. What else will he try to give you the best chance of getting pregnant in 2 months?
5. And find out when and how often he wants you guys to do it. He should be specific (like which cycle days to do it on).

I tried to think of all the info on clomid I've been told. So I hope this helps you make a decision. But if I was you, wait until cycle day 5 to start so that your doc is well informed on what is going on.

Keep us posted on what your doc says on Monday. I hope everything works out well for you!!!

[StephW]

Thanks again Aurelia.  And yeah, I usually make sure we "do it" everyother day, just to help out those spermies in case.

I'll call him on monday and hopefully he'll help me out more w/ doing u/s and HCG shot.  I mean he prescribed me this clomid, 50mg for 6 months once I told him DH was planning on deploying end of this year. So he already was wanting to help me out along to get preggo sooner.  Now, I'll just tell him that DH has been ordered to leave NEXT MONTH! Maybe he'll be able to squeeze me in...oh I sure HOPE so! ;o)

Wish me luck, lots of prayers to us all!

[cheesetoo]

Hey girls,
I hope you see this, as I had to post here because the other forum is closed.
Stephw
Excellent that you are going to get the u/s.  I think that is a wise decision.  Hopefully you will get your wish this month and will only need the one round of clomid.

Christina S,
I am on cd16. My cycles were regular but the doctor said that I wasn't oing so that's why I needed the clomid.  I finally got pg on injectables.  You are right to have the progesterone tested on the cd22.  They can get you right on suppliments if your numbers are low.  I think over 20 is good.  Good luck
p

[Angel4JohnnyB]

ROBIN---I'm sorry that I have no experience with the hcg levels......(my doctors with either of my pregnancies never gave me information on my levels)
Your levels didn't drop by a whole lot but I'm sure they should have been going up and not down........
If the levels were done by different labs there could be a difference with the results.......or possibly even if they were done on a different machine.......
You said your doctor said it looked "suspicious".......he didn't say you were having a m/c so maybe he has some hope for the pregnancy. Try to relax and wait for your u/s.......I know it will be hard to do but stress isn't good for the baby or for you....
Good Luck!!!!!!

KASSIMOM---As to why the step-daughter isn't working.........ummmmmm...........she dropped out of school in the 8th grade.....yes, I said the 8th grade and she says...."who is going to hire someone who dropped out of school in the 8th grade....so basically she isn't even trying.
When we lived at our other place I got her enrolled in GED classes so she would at least be doing that but when we moved here there isn't anything nearby. She does (finally) have an appt to meet with JobCorp on Monday. That will get her into some sort of schooling to finish her highschool education and learn a trade and it will get her out of here for at least a year or so (if she sticks with it)
As for 'tough love'.....it surprises me that DH isn't more strict with her but he isn't.....and anytime I say anything he feels like I'm ganging up on him. I break down and cry sometimes because I feel like a stranger in my own house because of her and I feel like I have to hide out in my bedroom half the day because when she hears me in the kitchen or livingroom she will come upstairs and be like.........'what are you into'........HELLO!!!!! This is MY house, who should care what I'm into or doing........OR "HOW" I'm doing it....she will always ask 'why' I'm doing something the way I'm doing it or she will tell me that I'm not doing something right or that I should be doing it different that I am....the list goes on and on and I just get sooooooo tired of hearing her. I try to be nice but sometimes I just snap and then she'll be like....'having a bad day'......grrrrrrr..I have a feeling we are going to really butt heads after the baby comes because even now she thinks she knows better than I do about the baby stuff....for instance, dh and I bought the playpen that has the bassinet & changing table built in (save some money...hehe) anywho, I was putting a sheet on the bottom part that the baby will lay on and she said, "why in the world are you putting a sheet on that, it's not like he's going to sleep there he's just going to play there"......I said "no, this is the bassinet and he will be sleeping here and I would never just let him sleep on it without a sheet".....she claimed it was 'getto' and walked off.
Sorry to vent, you guys are the only people I ever talk to.

CHRISTIE---First off, I knew you were having troubles of your own but gosh, I'm sorry, I had no idea!!! And you shouldn't feel bad about having a 'pity party' as you called it.....I think I just did that to Kassimom up above.....lol.
Secondly, I don't think you have anything to apoligize for, not at all!!!! On the contrary, I think when people signal YOU out to answer a question (I've done it too and can't promise it won't happen again, sorry) they have to realize that you have a life of your own and that you can't always be here when we need you or want you to be. And sometimes......you might just have a "human" moment and miss a post or two that is directed at you. Should you be beheaded for that?!?!? I think not!!!
I (and I'm sure everyone else too) value your opinion very much and in the short 9 or 10 months that I've been coming here I've seen you use your OB skills to help many people, myself included. I guess I'm just trying to tell you that you shouldn't feel bad for being human and only being one person. You do the best you can for us and there should be no apology for that.

I'm sorry this got so long.......I just couldn't stop typing!!!!
Hugs,
Vikki

[Still_AndiJ]

Were the draws done at the same lab? Typically it is not a good sign to see your numbers dropping until later in pregnancy. If your doctor is receptive, demand an ultrasound as they are the gold standard in dx a viable pg. I apologize for not knowing how far along you are, so many posts, but if you are beyond 7-8 weeks, they should definitely be able to see the baby. Of course if your dates are off even by a few days, the ultrasound may not show much.

I will keep my fingers crossed for you and your family.


Andrea