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cramps after IVF

cramps after IVF

by keepthefaith, Oct 07, 2006 12:00AM
I am one day past IVF and am having lower menstrual cramps.  Is this unusual.  Did anyone else's doctor require them to have bedrest for 24 hours?  Thanks for listening.
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by AnnieBrooke, Oct 07, 2006 12:00AM
My doc required limited bedrest for 48 hours.  Could get up to use the loo and eat, that was all.  Yes, the cramps are normal.  Good luck!!!!!

by WorriedNat, Oct 07, 2006 12:00AM
I was told at my fertility clinic that fertility patients tend to cramp more.  I can't remember why that was but the cramping can also be from implantation. I had a lot of that when I got pregnant both times.  Good luck.  The odds are in your favor.  IVF works 50% of the time.  I bet it's working on you.  Take care and let us know what happens.

by keepthefaith, Oct 08, 2006 12:00AM
Thank you for responding so fast.  I am so nervous but I am trying not to think about it but it is so hard.  I have had 8 iui's and have been trying for 2 years.  We purchase the two cycle ivf since I didn't medically qualify for the three cycle refundable plan.  We have spent approximately $25,000 so far.  I am not sure how much more my pocketbook can afford.  Anyway so to ramble on and on.  Good luck to everyone who is trying.

by anniesland, Oct 08, 2006 12:00AM
To: keepthefaith
Hey i am currently in the 2ww period after my transfer on thurs, i also had some cramping! I'm hoping this is the one for me! Good luck to us!!!

by vicks621, Oct 08, 2006 12:00AM
In my experience it was normal to have cramps throughout the invitro process and with each attempt I was on bedrest for 48 hours. I'm currently 10 weeks pregnant by my 3rd invitro attempt. In fact I had the worst cramps and spotting with my 3rd attempt. If I remember correctly, in speaking with my Dr. regarding the cramps I was told they were on account of the stimulation of the ovaries.

by projectbaby, Oct 08, 2006 12:00AM
Hey.... I had a friend who went through IVF and I heard that she had horrible cramping..... she also spotted, but now she has triplets!!!!  So, this cramping is probably a normal thing....I have also been through 7 IUI cycles and trying for 2 years... this next cycle we are trying IVF... it's crazy how much it costs!!! It should be free b/c everyone should have a chance to have children... I guess life is not fair..... My SIL is in the process of having her children taken away by Social Services b/c of neglect!!!  I just want to slap her!!! she has no idea, how precious her children are!!!! anyway....good luck to you!!!!

by keepthefaith, Oct 08, 2006 12:00AM
To: projectbaby
I know it's so upsetting when people are so ungrateful for what they have.  My SIL doesn't appreciate her children either.  If it weren't for my brother, those kids would be lost.  Anyway, good luck to in your adventure.  Let me know when you get started.

by keepthefaith, Oct 08, 2006 12:00AM
To: anniesland
I hope it works for you.  Is this your first time?  How many IUI's have you had?  Anyway let me know your turnout.  I hope this is your month.  Good Luck.

by mgi, Oct 08, 2006 12:00AM
I cramped a lot'
good luck

by keepthefaith, Oct 08, 2006 12:00AM
To: MGI
Are you expecting?  Did you also do IVF?

by WARDA2008, Oct 23, 2007 09:19PM
To: 10/23/07
I JUST HAD FIRST IVF CYCLE 10/22/07 I HAVE CRAMPS AND IAM SO CAN'T WAIT UNTIL MY NEXT APOINTMENT WICH IS 10/31/07.

by WARDA2008, Oct 23, 2007 09:20PM
IS THEIR ONY ONE WHO KNOWS SINGS TO WACH

by kpeveteau, Apr 03, 2008 04:33PM
i am in day five after ivf and am having cramps it is so relieving to read all of your postings!  i have been freaking out in my mind!  this is such a scary thing waiting for the pregnancy test!
Would love to hear your outcomes-it will give me hope
kpeveteau

by Wakey, Apr 03, 2008 10:01PM
To: kpeveteau
Hi there,
I am 4 days post transfer, we had our 8 cell day 3 embryo placed in on Monday @ 2pm!! We were so happy with the development. The embryologist said it was a beautiful embryo... We had 9 frozen as well, last time we had none to freeze...

I have had cramping but it is not too bad. My breasts are so sore though... We test on 18-4-08, when do you test?

Fingers crossed...

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 05, 2008 07:59PM
To: Wakey
Hi Wakey!  Wow, we are in the same boat!  My hubby and I are going through our first cycle of IVF after 6 IUIs and two years of trying.  My transfer was 4/1/08, 8 cells day 3 embryos too.  The emrbyrologist also said they were beautiful!  It is so exciting and nerveracking at the same time.  I've had menstrual like cramping almost all week and I was starting to worry until I read the posts above.  My RE said this was normal, but anytime I've had cramps, it hasn't been good.  My breasts are also sore, I think it's from all the meds.  AND I developed OHSS, which has been awful.  Today is the first day I've felt better.  
My pg test is 4/15/08.  I WISH everyone LUCK and lots of baby dust!  It will happed for all of us when it's supposed to!

by Hpylfe08, Apr 06, 2008 08:57AM
To: rbdancegirl79
WOW I had my transfer of first IVF 2 embroyo's yesterday 04-06-08. they said quality was "excellent. Mu husband and I have been freaking out on the cramps although mild, I'm having. I feel so much better now. By the way what is OHSS? I too have very very sore breast. I am bound to bedrest to except to eat and go the the bathroom. My doc said not to lifet anything more than a milk gallon for the full two weeks. I miss going to the gym. How are your progesterone shots with the huge needle?

by LWitte, Apr 06, 2008 09:40AM
To: everyone
Hi gang!   I had my transfer one week ago today.   My Dr has be going in on Tuesday 4/8 to do my test.   I have been feeling menstral cramps fr the past few days and it has worried me a bit.  It i sgood to hear that others have had the same feelings!   I don't think the progesterone shots are that bad - Because I ice my rear down for a few minutes before my hubby injects me.  I do not feel a thing when he does it when using the ice!   I highly recommend it.   I have also been doign acupuncture treatments along with my IVF.  They say it can't hurt and may help.  I am enjoying it.    

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 06, 2008 12:07PM
To: hpylfe08
Hello!  CONGRATULATIONS on your successful transfer!  It's always nice to hear the quality of the embyros is "excellent". Ours scored an A-, so we were quite happy!  Good for you for staying on bedrest, I did the same for 24 hours and then took it easy for another 24.  I knew not to lift anything too heavy but I think I need to tone it down.  I lifted groceries yesterday and my laundry basket this morning.  :(  Oops.  I guess I need to ask my hubby to do more.  =D.  OHSS is Ovarian Hyperstimulation Syndrome.  My body kept stimulating even after I stopped the stimulation drugs.  They say if you're going to Hyperstimulate you will do so a few days after retrieval.  Well, my bloating, etc....just got worse and worse after retrieval.  I really thought they were going to cancel my transfer.  Luckily, it didn't get too bad, but progressively kept getting worse AFTER my transfer.  It's been a rough week, BUT, yesterday I started feeling better.  I've had more IVs and blood this week than everything else combined!  I'm still having cramps, but they're definitely mild.  Still, when you feel cramps that FEEL like menstrual cramps, you kind of freak out.  I'm trying to stay positive and not think about it, but it's hard.  

GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR TEST LWITTE!  I'll be praying for you this week!  Let us know how it goes!  

by Wakey, Apr 06, 2008 10:52PM
To: rbdancegirl79
I am so glad you posted!! We are so close in dates!!! Fingers crossed for you, I hope all your dreams are about to come true!!! I am still having mild cramps just like everyone else... It is killing me the waiting game!! The wait is just so hard... I am doing my best to stay busy but my mind will not switch off at night...

Baby dust to you...

by Wakey, Apr 06, 2008 10:55PM
To: All
I am wishing you all the best and lots of baby dust!!! You are in my thoughts and I hope all of our dreams are going to come true soon.

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 07, 2008 07:33PM
To: Wakey!
Same to you!  I hope you hear wonderful news!  This last week is going to kill me.  Since about saturday, my mind is consumed with this!  I know it's not healthy, but it's kind of hard to ignore it!  Good luck and please let me know how it goes!  I'll do the same!

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 07, 2008 07:46PM
To: All
Hey ladies!  I have another question that isn't really related to ivf cramping, but ivf meds.  My Dr. prescribed prometrium suppositories 3x a time (vaginally) and I'm also on Progesterone in Oil every other day.  Well the prometrium is making me SUPER sensitive and uncomfortable down there.  I was at the Dr. today and asked if this discomfort was normal, they said yes.  But I finally looked and I'm quite red and irritated looking.  The only thing I can think of, is that I'm possibly allergic to something in the drug. I'm calling my doc tomorrow, but was wondering if any of you had experienced side effects if on this drug. THANK YOU!  And I hope I wasn't "too graphic".

by Wakey, Apr 08, 2008 12:07AM
To: rbdancegirl79
Hi there,
I am on Crinone, it is a progesterone gel. I have to place it in twice a day, I am sensitive down there too and feel odd there... On the side effects paperwork it says it is all normal... I would still check due to the redness an irritation though!! I have been doing this since my egg collection so that is 12 days and I do not finish them till this Friday. I am sick of doing it, it is starting to hurt a little. But we are strong and will get through these struggles!!! The waiting is driving me insane...

Take care

xxxx

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 08, 2008 08:01AM
To: Wakey
HI!  THANK YOU for making me feel better!  I'm still going to call my Dr. to let them know I'm really red.  She said yesterday that if I got swollen or anything to let them know.  It's mainly sensitive--this morning it's actually feeling "a little" better.  I've been SOOO tired too!  I NEVER go to bed early and last night I was IN BED ASLEEP before 9!  I think it's all catching up to me.  Again, thanks for the reassurance.  I can't tell you how nice it is, to have someone to talk to who's going through this at the same time as me!  And you're right, WE WILL get through this!  And it will ALL be worth it when we have a sweet little baby of our own!  Talk to you soon!  xxoo!

by LWitte, Apr 08, 2008 01:26PM
To: All
Hi Ladies!   I am just on the progesterone shots.  But they may eventually transfer me to suppositories.   It's good to hear what I may be in for...
I went for my pregnancy blood test this morning and I should get the results of the test in a couple hours!!!!!!!!!!!!  I AM SO NERVOUS!   However, I did cheat and took a home pregnancy test this morning.  it said POSITIVE!   But I am afraid to believe it too much -- I mean, we are all on so many drugs that I have to wonder if it will affect the results of a home test.     I'll be sure to check back in a few and give you the update!!!     Let me tell you,  these past 5 hours have been the worst out of the entire 2 week process since retreival!  

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 08, 2008 03:39PM
To: LWITTE
OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I'm praying for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  PLEASE let us know!  WOW--how exciting!  I was also thinking of cheating next monday night (I hvae my blood test Tuesday), so at least my hubby and I will be together when we read the stick.  BUT, my Dr. is encouraging us not too, mainly b/c of a false negative.  The urine tests aren't as sensitive as blood.  BUT if yours says POSITIVE............YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  FINGERS CROSSED, LOTS OF PRAYERS AND BABY DUST!!!!

by LWitte, Apr 08, 2008 03:51PM
To: RBdancegirl79
Well ladies your prayers and the Baby dust worked!   Thank you!   I received a POSITIVE from my Dr!!!!!    It's official!  I AM PREGNANT!!!!!   SO WEIRD!   I think my husband is having a bit of a panic moment!   But it's so exciting!!      They told me that my 'levels' were at 229.  I think that is the HCG level.  (I forgot to ask).   A few months ago I had what they call a chemical pregnancy which is like a super super early miscarrigae.  My HCG levels at that point were 24.  So This is definitely an improvement!!!!    I go back in on Thursday for another test.    They told me that I may be able to stop doing the progesterone shots and go to suppositories, but from what you all have said,  I may prefer the shots to the discomfort you described.    

I took the home test today because I though that if it said no, it would mentally prepare  me to hear no from the Dr.   I told myself that I couldn't rely on the home test and that I wouldn't totally believe what it said, no matter what it said.  

I wish you both luck next week!!

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 08, 2008 07:34PM
To: LWITTE
Okay, I've been DYING to check back since I read your post earlier!  OMG OMG OMG for REAL THIS TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  HOORAY!  CONGRATULATIONS!  How funny is it that we don't know each other at all and I feel like I'm congratulating a wonderful friend!  It's soooo nice to have people to talk to during these crazy times!  WOW--I can't believe it!  
I have been thinking about taking a home test monday night to also "mentally" prepare myself but the Dr.'s say there is such a big chance of a False Negative.  So I'm thinking ifI can hold out, I will.  PLEASE keep us posted of your progress.  I also had a chemical pregnancy last summer, that is the only time I've been "pregnant" if that's what you want to call it.  =D.  But again, good luck and keep us posted and I PROMISE to email as soon as I get my results!  You'll still be in my prayers for a healthy full term pregnancy!  YEAH!  I'm so excited, this made my night!  xxoo! Rachel

by Wakey, Apr 09, 2008 12:51AM
To: LWITTE
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so happy for you... baby dust everywhere!!!

Keep us posted on your progress, I have tears in my eyes, you give me hope that I too will test +++ on 18-4.

Monie
xx

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 09, 2008 06:49PM
To: Lwitte and Wakey
Hi again ladies.  I'm curious and forgot to ask.  Is this your first IVF?  I was so excited about you, Lwitte, I was telling my DH last night and he was asking if this was your frist attempt.  We know the chances are 50/50 but it's so nice to hear about others getting a BFP!  Talk to you both soon! xxoo from VA
Rachel

by LWitte, Apr 09, 2008 08:05PM
To: Rachel & Wakey
Hi ladies!  Thank you for the well wishes!!!   And yes, this was our first IVF try.  I have done 3 IUI's prior to this.  And a couple months just on Chlomid.     Rachel, I do feel the same way you do - about feeling like I suddenly have these great friends through these postings!!   Isn't it funny!?!?     Thank you both for being here to chat with!!  

I go tomorrow for the 2nd blood test to make sure my HCG levels are going up.    

I am still having those crampy feelings.  Mine seem to be mostly on my left side.  I am goign to ask tomorrow if that 'means anything'.  A friend of mine sort of scared me a bit by giving me a look when I told her that I was feeling it on the left.  She has had a couple miscarriages, so I wonder if she knows something I don't.  She wouldn't elaborate, probably because she didn't want to worry me....  but I can't help to worry now.  ;-)     I;ll ask tomorrow and I'll fill you all in.

Best baby dust wishes to you all!!!
-Lesli

by LWitte, Apr 10, 2008 02:52PM
To: Rachel & Wakey
My Dr confirmed that there is nothing to worry about with the cramps - even if they are on the left.  They said that I would be feelign a lot of cramps, pulling and tightening becuase of all of the changes going on in there.    

My HCG levels more than doubled in the past 48 hours.  From 229 to 506!  YIPEE!   I also get to stop taking the progesterone shot and go to suppositories.  

Best wishes to both of you next week!

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 10, 2008 03:16PM
To: lwitte
CONGRATULATIONS!  That is wonderful Lesli!  The higher those levels ge tthe better.  Well, I'm having a TOUGH afternoon.  I started spotting about an hour ago and am at work and am freaking out!  i've been holding back tears since then.  i talked to my RE, she wasn't too concerned, she said it could still be implantation bleeding even though it's red, not brown.  It's still only spotting right now, but this is always how my period starts, so I'm NERVOUS.  She said I shouldn't get my period b/c of the progesterone and to rest as much as possible.  So needless to say, i need to find STRENGTH somewhere to stay positive till Tuesday.  
I am TRULY happy for you Lesli, PLEASE keep us posted!  xxxx!

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 13, 2008 08:11AM
To: Wakey
How are you doing?  are you getting through this waiting period?  My beta is in two days, I'm dying.  I had kind of a rough thursday and friday with some spotting and pretty bad cramping.  Lost some hope for sure, BUT I'm hanging on to a little bit.  At least I'm more mentally prepared now if it is a BFN.  Hope you're doing okay, 5 more days right?  GOOD LUCK again!

by pj11, Apr 14, 2008 12:17PM
To: All
I just wanted to find others also going through the 2ww after IVF... I'm supposed to take the Pregnancy blood test on Saturday, April 19th!!!!  (gone through this 2xs before, one without a transfer, one with a transfer, this being the most promising so far...)

My mind and my body seem to go back and forth with feelings as to whether or not I'm pregnant. Even though I'm working a good portion of the day distracted with consulting projects, it's always in the back in my mind... Weird being so sensitized with awareness of your body like this...   I had some on-going dull cramps since a few days after the transfer, but some were pretty strong yesterday... But, now the cramps are sort of gone with only very little twinges here and there... makes me nervous that the little nest has stopped building....  (Geez, my mind is crazy with this, b/c who knows whether any of this is a good or bad sign?... the problem is we're all different and it depends...)  

If any of you are in your 2ww let me know... Or if you've experienced a pretty dramatic change in cramping feelings.. let me know.

Wishing you all the divine intervention possible to make your dream of a life and your family come true.

Only those who go through this really know how difficult it is to keep moving positively forward in the face of so many known and unknown challenges and fears.

xoxo!

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 14, 2008 05:19PM
To: pj11
Hi Pj11!  I'm almost done with my 2ww and it's been HELL!  My beta is tomorrow morning at 8am.  I've ben so good about not doing an HPT but I stopped and bought one tonight.  My emotions are CRAZY right now.  This is our first ivf (6 failed iuis) and today has definitely been the hardest.  I'm glad this cycle is going well for you!  My dull cramping started 2dpt and pretty much stopped at 7dt.  THEN at 9dt, I spotted for about 3 hours, only when I wiped.  it was more pinkish, not brown for sure.  I freaked out, for sure thought it was over, blah blah.  My cramps came back and were much worse at 10dpt.  Then subsided and have had some twinges here and there since.  I'm 13dpt today.  no more spotting.  I know we're all different, but I definitely wouldn't worry about the cramping, even the harsher ones.  it could have been implantation!?!?!  I don't know if I will test tonight, I've NEVER had a BFP, so I'm so used to seeing the BFN, I'm terrified!  BUT.........if it's a BFN tomorrow, do I want to find out by the lab calling me?? It's CRAZY!  Anyways, I'll be praying for you!  I'll also keep you posted on me!  GOOD LUCK, stay POSITIVE and someone told me on another board you are PUPO! (Pregnant Until Proven Otherwisee!)  I liked that way of thinking!  xxooo!

by Wakey, Apr 15, 2008 12:50AM
To: rbdancegirl79
Hi there,
I am sorry I have not posted, I started bleeding last thursday so a big fat negative for me!! It was so hard but I am trying to remain positive. It was our second time for IVF, the last time we did not have any embryo's to freeze so we had to start all over again, thank goodness this time we have 9 frozen day 3 embryos I could not do a stimulated cycle again right now. The clinic said we can try again in June. As for you I am sorry you are spotting, have you tested yet, I have lost track of dates a bit sorry... Please post soon and again accept my apologies I have been trying to post but I just kept on crying, I also did not want to give you or lwitte bad news...

LWitte,
Congratulations they are great numbers, how are you going now?

I thank you both for your support and hope to hear good news from you both soon.

Monie
xx

by Wakey, Apr 15, 2008 12:51AM
To: pj11
How did you go? Wishing you luck...

xx

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 15, 2008 11:18AM
To: Wakey
WAKEY!  I'm soooooooooooo sorry about the BFN!  All I can say is HANG IN THERE...........I can't imagine how hard it must be for you.  :(  I had my beta this morning so I'm waiting as patiently as I can right now for the results.  I'll let you know.  I'm so glad you had embryos to freeze this time, I've heard the frozen transfer is MUCH easier emotionally and physically.  GOOD LUCK in June, I would love to keep in touch with you to see how everything goes.  Maybe the 3rd time will be the charm.  You've been wonderful, it's been so nice to have someone to talk to.  TAKE CARE and I'll let you know!  xxoo!

by LWitte, Apr 15, 2008 01:26PM
To: All
Wakey,  I am so sorry to hear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   But I do bet that third time is the charm!!!   And I am glad to her that you have some frozen for the next time.  I completely understand how you would feel about not being ready to go through the entire cycle again.  

Rachel – anxiously awaiting your results!   I take it you didn’t take your home test.  

PJJ – welcome to the chain, and good luck to you!!!      I completely agree with you that this consumes your mind!  I am constantly thinking about it.    

I have to say that even though I got a positive, I am still extremely nervous!   I have still had that cramping although it is mild.  I have also been really bloated.  My belly looked as if it was starting to show already, which I know was not possible.  From some online research I did, it looks like it was the progesterone which was making me bloated.  It has actually gone down a bit and the cramping has slowed down.   My husband and I are going on a cruise this Friday through next week.   I just hope and pray to make it through each day without any incident.  (not sure that I would want to have to go to a hospital in Mexico!)   So the worrying doesn’t necessarily stop because you get a positive!   I guess we will always be extremely cautious of our pregnancy considering all that us IVF girls go through.  

by pj11, Apr 15, 2008 02:49PM
To: All
This is so neat --I've never done these support chat links before --let alone on something so personal..  Thank you sooo much for responding!  :)  It helps to know I'm not crazy and that I shouldn't start thinking it's over before it's over, so to speak!  PUPO!!!!!!  PUPO!!!!!!  PUPO!!!!!!  

Rbdancegirl   --Hang in there! Just one more day till the blood test!   I'll be praying for you and imagining a pregnancy!!!!!!  It's sooo hard to wait and not do a HPT before you go in.  --I was sooo BAD ! - I already did a HPT --Stupid of me, almost 6 days early!  I think I was hoping I'd still have the HCG left in blood from the pre-Transfer shot...and at least see a BFP once! And, guess what? -- it was Negative! Figures.... I talked to my husband (who happens to be a resident Internal Medicine doc) not telling him that I did it already... but telling him I wanted to... and he said it was really silly b/c it won't be accurate. And, that I shouldn't go by all these symptoms or non-symptoms... He's right!!! But, it's weird.  So I'll wait...maybe till the night before or day of.  Although, if a HPT is negative, I've heard sometimes blood tests can still be a BFP.  So be careful... hope for the best, but prepare....

*I need to hear this myself as it's easier said than done:  As spiritual gurus, like Depak Chopra say, you need to somehow FIND A PEACE... although we all express strong desire for a baby, we also need to let go to some degree... to work with the laws of attraction in the universe... and not mess it up by being too needy and stressing ourselves out.

I'm worried that this could likely be my last attempt at IVF ... based on age (Healthy, youthful 42/yr - married later in life and was traveling doing stuff for others not focused on getting pregnant till the last 2 years.) and money's getting sooo tight!

LWittle --- Thanks for the welcome.  I hope you enjoy your CRUISE!!! That's great, try to keep your mind off of it as much as you can and pamper yourself.  (although I know it's omni-present)

WAKEY --  Sooooo so sorry to hear :(  --- big hugs!. Sounds like you have so many eggs to draw from though --That's really amazing :)   I'd love to have that!


SENDING BABY DUST IN A PEACEFUL EMBRACE!!!!!

by LWitte, Apr 15, 2008 03:37PM
To: All
PJ11 - yes this chat has been a lifesaver for me!  It is so great to hear that other people are going through the same things you are.

Ladies, one thing that I am doing which I may encourage you to do or at least research it and form your own opinion.  Acupuncture.   I am seeing an Acupuncturist who specializes in fertility and IVF.    I asked my ‘baby Dr’ about it and I expected him to dismiss it considering he practices Western medicine and acupuncture is Eastern medicine, but he actually had good things to say about it and gave me a referral.  

I am not going to say this right, but basically the acupuncture helps to increase the circulation to your reproductive organs which I believe then helps to make your uterine walls thicker making it a more ‘pleasing’ environment for the embryo.  (that may not be the technical reasons, but it is what I understand that it does).    Basically it can’t hurt it is very relaxing and helps to reduce stress.  (which is also a huge no-no for us during this time).    

I hope I don’t sound preachy or that I am pushing you in any way to do this,  but I do know that we get to the point where we will do anything to make this work.  I think that it is worth looking into.  Try this book ‘The Infertility Cure’ by Randine Lewis.   My friend who is 41 and just had her 3rd negative with IVF is seeking the treatment of a TCM Dr.  (Traditional Chinese Medicine).  They have her taking 3 months off of IVF to follow their program of acupuncture and herbal medicines to help her body be put back in balance.   She has notices changes in her cycle and the way she feels.  

Oh,  and did you hear this one -  EAT LOTS OF PINEAPPLE during this time after the transfer!   They say that it makes your insides sticky so that there is more for the embryo to stick to!   (again, clearly not a technical term for this, but hey,  it can’t hurt!).  

BABY DUST TO ALL!!!!!

by pj11, Apr 15, 2008 04:29PM
To: LWitte
You don't sound preachy... I probably sounded more so in mine with the spiritual stuff --sorry if I did --it's so hard to balance life in these moments --I just want to support everyone!  This process is a crazy one!

I really think accupuncture is great.... and it is supported by many IVF centers, with accupuncturists often practicing in the same offices.  I started it last summer and was able to reactivate my left ovary, which for whatever reason hadn't been showing any real oocyte production for a long time... With this last IVF that ovary even produced the best and the brightest!  Strangely enough, I enjoy accupunture -- it's an opportunity for relaxation and meditation (she plays great music while I lay there).  I feel that it does something....and bottom line is, I always feel so much better afterwards --It can't hurt!  (Unless you get the wrong accupuncturist --my husband had one in NY right out of China who came from a different discipline, and used huge painful needles --Mine were nothing! barely a *****... You also need to choose someone you like)

INTERESTING PINEAPPLE TIP! I'LL DO IT ALL!!!! --Thanks!

*Also there is a book I read that's great called "Fertility Foods" --optimize ovulation and conception through food choices ---written by Jeremy Groll --an expert Reproductive Endocrinologist.  

Hang in there!

XOXOXOXOX

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 15, 2008 06:24PM
To: ALL
Well ladies, after two years of trying, 6 failed IUI's and one chemical, We GOT OUR BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I got the call around 5pm and my level is at a 244!  I'm obviously on cloud nine right now, trying to let it all soak in!  Mainly, b/c we've never had a BFP (with the checmical, it didn't even show on the HPTs).  So it's amazing to know I can GET PREGNANT!  I'm just so excited, but also know that the tough road isn't over yet.  I go back Thursday for another blood test, praying my levels will go up as they should.  

Lwitte, I'm so glad you're doing acupuncture.  I did it before and during IVF, haven't thought about returning, mainly b/c we're broke.  I might try and at least do a few sessions.  It really helped with my stress and while I'm not a crazy believer of Eastern Medicine, there is something to be said for it!

pj11--I'm so glad you're on here!  DO NOT stress about the HPT just yet!  And yes, the HPT can definitely show negative and you can still have a BFP with the blood test.  SO don't worry either way!  You only have a few more days of waiting.......if you're going to test again, test the night before.  We'll be praying for you!  

I'm also still having cramps, even kind of intense at times, nothing like I'm doubled over or anything, but they are definitely there.  Of course, now that I know I'm pregnant, EVERYTHING I Feel, I'm going to freak out!  We are not telling anyone (except a very select few) until we get through 12 wks.  

Wakey, I'm still praying for you and hoping you hang in there!  IT WILL WORK!  IT WILL WORK!  You WILL get pregnant!  

I'm going to buy pineapple this weekend!  xxoo to you all, and let's stay in touch, this is great. We are watching Juno tonight----ironic huh?  =D
Rachel

by Wakey, Apr 15, 2008 09:47PM
To: rbdancegirl79
CONGRATULATIONS!!! I am so happy for you this is fantastic!!! This inspires me to go on!! Thank you for being there for me it helps so much... YEAH!!!! WOW that is just fabulous!!!! Keep us posted on your progress!!!

Monie
xxxx

by Wakey, Apr 15, 2008 09:49PM
To: LWitte
Thanks for the hug and support... It means alot to have this contact and know that you and evertone on this post understand!!! I will keep going as long as we can... Keep us posted on you and take care

Monie
xxxx

by Wakey, Apr 15, 2008 09:51PM
To: PJ11
Thanks again for your support... it is so great!!! Stay in contact.

Monie
xx

by pj11, Apr 15, 2008 10:17PM
To: ALL
You are all so amazing!  How lucky I am to have connected with youl.   Thanks you so much for all your support and good wishes... Eash of you are inspiring... you keep me hanging in there.  xox

Rachel ---OMG!  YAHOOOOO!  I have goose bumps...I'm elated for you... It made me so happy to read your message!  I'll keep praying for you to make it through the next hurdles! I know it will all be good!   :D

I have a magnet on my refrigerator, that simply says, "Dwell in the Possibility" by Emily Dickenson... It was given to me by a friend of mine that went thru IVF 5 xs and now a beautiful 2 year old boy!

Hearts and flowers!!!!

Pamela

by LWitte, Apr 16, 2008 01:59PM
To: rbdancegirl79
Rachel!!!!!!!!!!!!!  HOW WONDERFUL!!!  I am so excited for you!!!   YIPPEE!     Keep us updated!!  
It is fun!  We are so close!   I jsut had to ask my Dr how far along I was - not sure if they counted the weeks from retreival or transfer. They told me retreival.   So I am 4 weeks, what does that make you?  3 Weeks?    (the official clock is set at the fetal sonogram, but this is a start).  

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 16, 2008 04:50PM
To: ALL
Thanks for the congrats ladies.........I think I'm walking around with a permanent goofy smile on my face!  The hard part is weare not telling anyone for quite sometime.  Only a few people know, BUT at least I them and you guys to talk to!  You just want to tell everyone!  

lwitte--We ARE so close.  well, it's funny, they are saying I'm 4 weeks yesterday.  I think there are several different ways to measure.  I can't caluculate my due date exactly, but I know it's right at Christmas, which yours is too!  A christmas baby!  I will ask this..........are you still having some pretty crazy cramping?  b/c I think mine is worse today than it has been in a while.  Not BAD, but definitely there.  AND I'm having some sharp pains here and there.  They kind of shoot through my lower abdomen and then go away. it says online that it's "normal", but I don't like having them!

pj11--I HOPE you're having in there!  Only a few more days!  I'm praying for you like crazy!

wakey--I'm still praying for you two girlie!  Hang in there and get EXCITED about your next cycle!  Alot of other girls I've talked to say that it helps to look forward to the next cycle.  It kind of gets their minds off this past one.  

Well, my next beta is tomorrow and of course I'm terrified to know the results. As long as my levels go up, I'm happy.  AND I want to get reassurance that these pains and minor cramping are normal.  It's the pains that are freaking me out.  

xxoo! Rach

by pj11, Apr 17, 2008 10:24AM
To: rbdancegirl79
Thinking of you....Crossing my fingers and toes, as today's your 2nd big BETA test, right?  --- Wishing you great numbers!  Hang in there!

by pj11, Apr 17, 2008 10:25AM
To: ALL
Best wishes and hug to everyone!  We'll do this.

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 17, 2008 11:24AM
To: pj11
Thanks pj.  I just got back from the Dr., but unfortunately, i don't think I'll know my results till tomorrow!  I did ask about the cramping and the pains, they said it is pretty normal.  They said my first beta is the only one ordered "stat".  ggeeezzz!  I'm still thinking of you too!  Only a couple more days!!!!!

by pj11, Apr 17, 2008 04:48PM
To: rbdancegirl79
Thanks...  I feel like I'm hanging by a thread!  I keep trying to keep my spirits up... I find myself easily welling up with a tears ...and then catching myself before they drop with a smile and some upbeat statement.... but I'm aching underneath.

Love xoxo

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 17, 2008 05:17PM
To: pj11
Hi!  I know what you mean about the emotional aspect of this.  last friday and saturday i was completely convinced it didn't work and just cried all night.  My poor dh had to keep telling me to stay positive. I think it's the fact that so many symptoms are just like AF, it messes with your head.  I still am having cramps exactly like Af is coming, so I'm so nervous something will go wrong.  Less than 2 days for you!  Are you going to do an HPT tomorrow?  I'll be praying for you!  baby dust and lots of sticky thoughts your way!  xxoo!

by LWitte, Apr 17, 2008 07:48PM
To: All
Ladies, I wish you the best over the next week!   We are off for our vacation tomorrow!  So I'll be off the map for a week.   This will be a cheap vacation for us since only half of us will be partaking in adult beverages on the cruise!!  

Rachel - I just know your #'s will double!!!

PJ11 - good luck to you!  I can't wait to check back in and see how everyone has progressed!

Wakey - still thinking about you too!  

Wish you all lots of baby dust!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 17, 2008 08:10PM
To: Lwitte
Have FUN FUN FUN on your cruise!  RELAX and pamper yourself b/c in 9 months you won't have time to relax!  Write when you get back!  xxoo!

by Wakey, Apr 17, 2008 09:17PM
To: lwitte
Have a great time!!!

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 19, 2008 01:56PM
To: Everyone!
Hi! Well my second beta came back last evening and I'm over 700 now!  I was too excited when she told me to remember the exact number, but it just about tripled, so I'm thrilled!  I had my third and final beta this morning.  i should get the results Monday and they said Ill have my first u/s tuesday most likely!  Seems early, but I guess that's how they do it at my doc.  Sooooooooo, I'm thrilled and still trying to take it easy.  So nervous I'll do something wrong!  

Pj................today is THE DAY!  I've been thinking of you!  I hoep you hear WONDERFUL NEWS, I've been praying for you and sending TONS of baby dust your way.  

Have a great saturday everyone!  xxoo!

by pj11, Apr 19, 2008 06:09PM
To: rbdancegirl79
CONGRATS!!!!! That is so wonderful!!!!!! Yay!  YAY!!!! YAY!!!!  I love getting your notes and hearing how you are... Your support is so nice... Thank you for the prayers and baby dust --I can use them no matter what!

I'm still waiting for "official" news --the lab I used this a.m. messed up a bit on "stat" timeliness, and also with my name in their computer (errrr) -So I might not have it  from them till Monday even! (This means I might chose to redo it at a different lab --one that I know is good tomorrow)
  
The sad thing is I'm really not carrying so much hope now.... I took the HPT this a.m. and it was negative  --which honestly was not a surprise b/c I just don't feel like I am at all.  (I haven't had any cramps or fluterings for a while and my breasts are just a bit sore -- likely the progesterone though)

I'll let you know when all is confirmed though!  --I'm still acting somewhat PUPO, but I'm prepared to move forward if my HPT and feelings are confirmed.

HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING WELL -- Lot's of baby miracles on their way for all! xox

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 19, 2008 07:37PM
To: pj11
How frustrating with the lab mix up!  So sorry!  The waiting is the hardest part.......it will seriously drive you crazy.  Do NOT give up hope until you get "official" news.  Your level might just be lower...I've heard so many people say that they get a negative HPT and still a + beta.  Sooooooooooooooo hang in there.  AND just remember, if it's not good news this time, as hard as it will be, stay positive for next time!  You CAN AND WILL GET PREGNANT!  

Keep us posted and enjoy your evening! xxoo

by pj11, Apr 21, 2008 12:28AM
To: All
Well, as of 3pm today, it was "official" -- a BFN  :(    I feel sad... we feel sad and disappointed.  We're trying to keep our spirits up and face the future -- "looking forward" and not  backward.  We're okay...

We went out to dinner, had a cocktail at a  local restaurant with a harbor view and unwound.  We toasted to our teamwork and incredible efforts. This process is not for the light-hearted.  (In a 8 month period we had 2 IUI's and 2 IVFs   If we decide to do anything major like this again, we'll likely do it in a few months from now... to regenerate and be strong --So far each time has been better).  

Even though I was one of the later ones to come into this thread --I can't tell you how much reading your messages and talking to you has meant to me.  I feel oddly connect to you all.  And, we've never met!

Please keep me updated --- I'm going to keep praying, TTC, and checking in on you all --I really care about you and wish you all the very, very best!  

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *    
                  Sending you a million stars of guiding light
            with prayers to hold you through each day and night
                      may your worries begin to disappear
            and your hearts overcome each encountering fear
        Great strength and courage are shown in your loving care
            with your soul's dedication, a child will come to bare
                  The great ability you have to nurture and love
                 will be an amazing gift to a child, far and above!


THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE!
                
                    
                      




by mmaj0524, Apr 21, 2008 04:20PM
To: All
Hello,
I am new to this type of forum but I have been reading all of your messages and they are heartwarming. I in the 2ww after a day 5 embryo transfer on Tuesday 4/15. I know it is a very short time but I took a HPT this morning and it was negative. I feel crampy, bloated, and tired but I know that could just be from the meds. No sign of spotting or anything. This is my 3rd embryo transfer, first time I had an ectopic and the second one just never took. We have only 1 frozen embryo left. Needless to say the wait is killing me, I have been eating a ton out of stress and now I feel depressed because I am gaining wait. Of course if I am pregnant it would not be that bad. Any words of advice? Thanks ladies you are all so strong and encouraging. I go for my blood test this Thursday 4/24 which seems very early to me (only   9 days after transfer)  but what my Doctor ordered. Have a great day.

JJ

by mmaj0524, Apr 21, 2008 04:31PM
To: All
Hello,
I am new to this type of forum but I have been reading all of your messages and they are heartwarming. I in the 2ww after a day 5 embryo transfer on Tuesday 4/15. I know it is a very short time but I took a HPT this morning and it was negative. I feel crampy, bloated, and tired but I know that could just be from the meds. No sign of spotting or anything. This is my 3rd embryo transfer, first time I had an ectopic and the second one just never took. We have only 1 frozen embryo left. Needless to say the wait is killing me, I have been eating a ton out of stress and now I feel depressed because I am gaining wait. Of course if I am pregnant it would not be that bad. Any words of advice? Thanks ladies you are all so strong and encouraging. I go for my blood test this Thursday 4/24 which seems very early to me (only   9 days after transfer)  but what my Doctor ordered. Have a great day.

JJ

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 21, 2008 08:09PM
To: pj11
PJ......................I'm soooooooooooooooo sorry!  That stinks.  :(  You seem to be taking the news pretty well, sounding optimistic and knowing that this isn't the end.  I'm glad you and dh went out last night, had a cocktail and enjoyed what matters most......your marriage.  Through all of this my dh told me that it is OUR MARRIAGE and BOND that is the MOST important thing.  We made a commitment to each other to make each other happy forever, to be there for each other in good times and bad and no matter what, it is our marriage that we must focus on and enjoy even if things didn't work out.  It's so easy to forget that when you're gonig through something so draining and emotional.  

As far away as it may seem, I think taking a few months off might be good for you.  I've heard that destressing and regaining your strength is the best thing for you!  And like you said, it's gotten better every time!  

ENJOY EACH OTHER and keep trying naturally!  You never know!  Please keep us posted, I've loved getting to know you.  And I'll be here if you need to vent!  

I hate sharing my good news after you've had crappy news, BUT I got the results of my 3rd beta.  It's 1705, up from 700.  I'm really happy and am actually going in for my 1st ultrasound tomorrow.  They SHOULD be able to see the sac.  I'll let you know.  It's sad though, I'm still living in constant fear something will go wrong.  I just want to enjoy the 8 months and cherish every minute of it.  Each day I get through, I'm so thankful.  

HANG IN THERE and STAY STRONG!  xxoo
Rach

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 21, 2008 08:15PM
To: JJ
Hi JJ!  Welcome!  Youre half way through the wait!  I actually got my BFP the day you had your transfer, so MAYBE it's a magical day!  It's such a long, crazy wait, I'm fortunate that this was my first IVF...........but I had 6 failed IUI's  which were just as bad.  Crampy, bloated and tired can be good!  I'm still having cramps.  I'm exhausted and my breasts are KILLING me!  I don't even want to take off my bra at night!  And I know what you mean about gaining weight....I think the meds are doing it to me.  I feel disgusting!  And we aren't telling people anything for at least a few more weeks, so the fact that I'm just 'gaining weight" sucks!  hang in there, like you said, WHO CARES if you're pregnant right?  9dpt does seem early for a beta.  Mine was 14dp3dt.  BUT, your doc knows best.  For some reason if it's negative though, ask them if you should test again!  
Keep us posted and we'll anxiously await your BFP!
xxx!
Rachel

by Wakey, Apr 21, 2008 09:34PM
To: pj11
Hi, i am sorry about your news.. I know how you feel. Take some time and try again when you are ready. I am sending you a big hug and hope you are feeling better soon!!!

Love Monie
xx

by Wakey, Apr 21, 2008 09:35PM
To: rbdancegirl79
Congratulations that is great news about your beta... keep us all  posted ok!!!

Love Monie
xx

by Wakey, Apr 21, 2008 09:37PM
To: mmaj0524
Welcome!!! I would wait till you see your doctor and have your blood test as well.. not long to go now. My fingers are crossed for you, keep us posted.

by FinalFrontier, Apr 22, 2008 11:20AM
To: all
Hello, I am officially in the 2ww since Sunday and have been feeling crampiness since a week before the transfer.

by pj11, Apr 22, 2008 01:18PM
To: All
Hi JJ --Welcome!  :)  Hope you're hanging in there... It's hard to wait, I think it's the hardest part.  Your mind begins to obsess about every feeling, every symptom --- I was actually more worried when I didn't  have them as much.... Don't lose hope; those symptoms can often be a good sign anyway.  That day does seem early it's usually 12 to 14 days after.  Take care, be sure to let us know how you are.  

Rachel--CONGRATS --THOSE NUMBERS SOUND PHENOMINAL!  YAY!
It is so true... you are so right!  Our marriage is definitely the most important thing in our lives.  We've been through so much together over the last 8 years (5 of them married) We have encountered some challenging ups and downs, but these experiences have always made us closer and stronger   My DH regularly reminded  me through this process that  "we're in this together" too... He'd catch me sometimes blaming myself or feeling worse b/c it's my body with the fert. issues/challenges.   He really is so supportive! (I love him so much, that it hurts me to imagine not being able to bring him the joy of having a child... even though we are open to adoption if all fails)  Thank you so much for your words --It's so important during times like these to really appreciate all that we have.  Sounds like you have a wonderful marriage too.  Thanks for sharing.

Wakey -- Thanks for your words of understanding and encouragement --They mean so much to me.  Hope you're feeling okay... My hormones are still a bit weird, feeling tired at odd times of day. I also wake up sometimes at night in sad disbelief.  So, for right now, we're just trying to get back to normal...  Maybe when we try again, our times will be similar again... However, we have to figure out before than.


BEST WISHES....SENDING BIG HUGS!

by pj11, Apr 22, 2008 01:23PM
To: FinalFrontier
Welcome!  Does that mean you were having cramps before an egg retrieval?...Sometimes all those meds and production of extra eggs create a strain on your ovaries... keep in contact with your doc or nurse, if you're really concerned.  I know I had to take Tylenol here and there when it was a little too uncomfortable (that's what they told me I could take... I just took a little here and there.).  Keep us updated... Sending baby dust and prayers.  xox

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 22, 2008 05:24PM
To: ALL
Hello everyone--well.......................the BIG NEWS OF THE DAY!  I had my first ultrasound, I'm officially 5 wks and 3 days.  And they didn't find one sac or two sacs, they found THREE sacs!  I saw it and I seriously needed to pick my jaw up off the floor!  I only had two embies transferred, so it looks like one split.  The third is much smaller than the other two, so my doc wants to confirm next week for sure.  I guess they will have grown quite a bit in a week.  I'm in complete shock, as is my dh and family.  Excited and terrified and nervous.  They think it will be twins for sure.  So, I need to keep praying we will all stay healthy and they will grow normally.  I'm trying to only think of positives right now (we all know the risks with multiples).  But I'll deal with that later on.  

Welcome final frontier!  Don't worry about the cramping--i could have sworn that my AF was going to show any minute for the entire two weeks.  I had never had an HPT, so I never knew what it felt like to be pregnant.  I even had spotting at 9dpt.  Just rest as much as you can, and TRY and keep the stress and worries down.  

Pj, Monie & Lwitte, I hope you all are doing okay.  I'm so glad we have each other to talk to!

JJ, hope you're hanging in there!  NOT TOO much longer!  How are you feeling?  

xxoo to you all!
Rach

by carmicheal1, Apr 22, 2008 10:53PM
To: All
HI! I have just sat here and read each and every one of your comments and I actually feel better! I had my ET on 04/19 and am now in that horrible waiting period! I actually felt positive about it until today. I have had cramping all day long and I just know how my body feels before I start. Sat. night after the transfer I got this horrible headache and it lasted all through Sunday. I was bedridden with it but it gradually got better Mon and now today have cramped a lot. It is sooo hard not to stress about it. This is our second IVF, well actually 3rd cycle, they cancelled the first one. I am trying to stay positive but I am not the optimist like my dear sweat hubby! Anyway, just wanted to let you all now it is so encouarging to hear positive outcomes after cramping and even the anxiety involved in the whole process.
Thanks!
carmicheal1

by Wakey, Apr 22, 2008 11:42PM
To: rbdancegirl79
WOW That is amazing... it must be so overwhelming, scary, exciting all a the same time!! I am so happy for you!!! I can not believe it and how awesome you got to see them!! WOW!!!! Keep us posted

Monie
xx

by Wakey, Apr 22, 2008 11:44PM
To: pj11
I am here for you as you are for me... I am tired to, can not seem to get back in the swing of things but everyone says I look great and not tired at all... I sure feel it!!! Still having hot flushes from time to time as welll, I hate them... Take care

Monie
xx

by Wakey, Apr 22, 2008 11:45PM
To: Finalfrontier
So how are you going? The wait is sa hard... hang in there ok!!!

Monie
xx

by Wakey, Apr 22, 2008 11:52PM
To: carmichael1
I know hoe you feel, hang in there and try to stay positive ok.

Monie
xx

by tamicast, Apr 23, 2008 03:04PM
To: All
Transferred 3 embies on 15/4 by IVF, assisted hatching. I have had cramping ever since, low and high. No bleeding at all. Also feel really tired last few days. Almost fell asleep at work.  Some breast tenderness. Beta blood test scheduled for tomorrow 24/4.  I am totally freaking out!  Reading about all of your circumstances has made me feel like others understand and I am not going crazy!

Best of luck to all of you.
Tam  

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 23, 2008 07:45PM
To: all
WELCOME TAM and CARMICHAEL!  I'm glad you found us!  It helped me so much to have these ladies to talk to during my 2ww.  My dh was so excited I found someone who was going through it with me.  

Carmichael, don't get discouraged, I know I've said this before but I thought my af was coming the whole 2ww.  Every time I went to the bathroom, I would just wait for it to come.  It never did though!  And cramping is a good thing, it could mean your bodys doing something!  

Tam, GOOD LUCK TOMORROW!  Let us know asap, I hope it's great news!  I'll pray for you tonight!The tierd feeling could be the meds or it could be that your preggers.  And NO you're not going crazy, again, it's so nice to have this to talk to people!  Good luck!

Monie, Thanks for the excitement.  I know you're going through a rough time right now and I hate "sharing" my news.  BUT, I also hope that it gives others hope!  I really never knew if we'd get pregnant.  The scary thing is, we are soooooooooo early, I still "expect" something negative to happen.  That's horrible, I know, but after all we have been through..........it's seem normal to expect the worse.  SO, I'm trying to stay positive.  =D  hang in there!
xxoo
R

by pj11, Apr 23, 2008 11:43PM
To: ALL
RACH--- OMG, OMG, OMG!!!!!  That is unbelievable, incredible and impressive! --You really outdid yourself!   ---WOW!!!!!!  How exciting for you and dh!  (My mother-in-law has said she actually wants me to have multiples -twins or triplets... I think triplets would make me a little nervous too ---although, it is done! The main thing is health, etc.  Twins, isn't as big a deal --my sister naturally had twins 38yrs old, and my husband has brothers who are twins.. So it's in our families)  

Monie --- Thanks for being there!   I just starting to feel a little bit more normal today.... phew...   Just starting to look at how to  bring in more income in the next month or two to help with the costs of what we did, and what we may plan in the future. (sooo much money; it's daunting if you think about it too much... Too bad insurance doesn't cover anything!)

Final Frontier, Carmicheal, Tamicast --- HANG IN THERE... Keep POSITIVE, try not to obsess (although I know it's soooooo hard --got to keep your mind active on some other things)  Just let us know how it all goes!   Sending lots of baby dust and prayers!

xoxoxo

by tamicast, Apr 24, 2008 08:38AM
To: All
Thanks for all your kind words. I had the blood work and now the waiting begins for the results.  I feel like I want to hurl I have so much anxiety!

Best wishes to all of you.

Tam

XXXX

by lobby, Apr 24, 2008 05:42PM
I feel it right to comment on this site for more then just 1 reason. I have read all the stories and I noticed that it’s only women that discuss this journey. Well here is a point of view from one husband who too is experiencing fertility issues. I am 33 years old and my wife is a bit older, 39. She is an amazing women who could run circles around me and looks more 29 then 39. We got married close to 2 years ago and have been trying to have a little one for over a year and a half now. We both were able to get pregnant in our past relationships so we new there wasn’t a problem there. At the end of ’07 we decided to see a specialist. We did Clomid once to no prevail and 3 IUI’s with 0 outcome. I told my wife I know your stubborn but you don’t have to tell me no over 40 million times! Of course I was referring to her eggs not allowing my sperm in. So our Dr. suggested that we do IVF because of my wife’s age. After thorough research we decided financially and emotionally we were ready to do this. My wife started all her shots and let me tell you. She is the strongest person I have ever met. Her biggest fear ever were needles and if you would have said 2 years ago she would shoot herself she would have fell to the floor in laughter. Well she was shooting herself in the stomach without a flinch. She did however look at the trigger shot needle once a day, that one had her worried. Well we were cruising along as the blood tests and ultrasounds were coming back positive. Our Dr. only saw 4 follicles growing which had us a bit concerned but I kept saying all we need is 1 egg. Well the day we were getting ready for the trigger shot she had to do another ultra sound. It turns out some follicles were hiding behind her “hockey stick” ovaries. We had about 14 follicles there. I can’t tell you how excited we were. That night she went to the bathroom to do the dreaded trigger shot. After about 5 minutes of silence I opened the door to make sure she was still upright. She looked at me with her beautiful eyes and sadly said she couldn’t do this shot herself. I grabbed the needle and said let’s go to the bed and I will complete this for you. Actually that’s not how it went. I did grab the needle but when I saw the size of that puppy I started to nervously laugh. She did not take that to well let me tell you. Oh on a side note I read from everyone here that you all had slight mood swings. No, no they aren’t slight mood swings. To you all it might seem slight, trust me. I have seen the devil more then once but I still love her!!! Ok on to my story. I told her that I was nervous doing this and it was nerve giggles not that it was a laughing matter. She went and laid on the bed and we iced her backside. I stuck the needle in and pushed the medicine in. She again proved to me how amazing she is by taking it like a champ. After she said it wasn’t that bad at all and kept saying how proud she was of me for being able to do it. Can you believe that, she was proud of me!?!?! She said I was a great Dr. and I told her she is the best patient I ever had. 2 days later we went for the retrieval. She was nervous but more excited as was I. We were called into the prep room and she had to go change into her gown. At that time I was sent to my room where I had to take care of business. As much as you might think it’s glorious for a guy trust me it’s not. Knowing that everyone around knows what your doing in there makes it very difficult as well as embarrassing. I told my wife it’s not only that I have to do it but everyone knows you have to get yourself stimulated. So I finished as quickly as I could and delivered my sample. The nurse and my wife both said to me that was quick. Those are words your guys don’t want to hear trust me. So anyway my wife went into the room for about 20 minutes as I waited in the waiting room. They gave her an IV of some feel good juice so when she was done she was still feeling happy. The Dr. told us they got 14 eggs from her. We were absolutely thrilled! When we first started we thought maybe 3 now it’s 14. So the wait time begins. The following day we were told 2 have fertilized and are strong. We had about 4 slow ones and the rest were abnormal (too many pronuclei). The 2nd day of waiting  we were told the 2 were looking good and the others are still lagging. Of course I blame those on her knowing very well that’s my genes. So were good to go on day 3 for the transfer. We get in and were told we actually have 4 eggs that are good. 1 of them is a bit slow but our Dr. still wants to transfer. We have one 8 cell grade A, (the next QB for the Colts), two 8 cell grade B and one 5 cell grade B. We feel very positive about the grade A 8 cell and hopeful with the others. They showed us a picture of the cells and honestly it brought a tear to both our eyes. Yes they are just fertilized eggs but to us they are our babies. After she was laying there for 30 minutes we were sent home. She laid in bed for over 2 days as it fell on the weekend as we don’t want to take any chances at all. Each night I say good night to the babies and good bye when I go to work. I told her the first day she went back to work that it’s like take your cells to work day. We are trying to keep as upbeat and positive as possible. Each night I give her the long shot of progesterone and each night she amazes me more with her strength. We will know on April 30th 2008 if we are pregnant or not and then go 2 days later to make sure it’s progressing. This is the most difficult, exciting, nerve wracking, emotional trip either one of us have ever taken. It’s not just women that go thru this it the male too. We are a team and if 1 goes down the other goes down as well . I know it’s my wife’s body and she feels responsible for the bad but I too feel the same disheartening feelings. We just try our best to make light of the situation and keep ourselves laughing. The wait is strenuous and without joking we would crack. I find it quite funny as the way I have matured thru the process. I feel I know more about the women’s nether regions and reproductive organs then most women do. I am the guy that jokes around with his buddies, loves sports, and is your typical guy. I don’t talk to my friends about this because no way they would understand. The majority are still single and if it’s not about the game then don’t bring it up. Well I will give the update as soon as we get word 1 week from today. Wish us luck and we wish you all luck as well!!!

by carmicheal1, Apr 24, 2008 05:54PM
To: ALL
Hello everyone!!

Monie & Rachel, thanks so much for the welcome and comforting words!  

Rachel, that is soooo exciting about your ultrasound! It is so nice to get positive news. It is like Monie said, it gives you hope and encouragement to continue on!!!

Good luck Tam!

I have to ask, I know I mentioned being stressed out about the cramping but I had a glimmer of hope after reading all of your experiences but...by chance, did any of you just feel jittery and shaky?? See, for me I always do that before I start so today hasn't been a good day for me all. No spotting at all yet but the other symptoms are overwhelming!

Wishing you all lots of luck and many prayers!
Carmicheal

by mysty2001, Apr 24, 2008 07:21PM
lobby
your essay brought tears to my eyes
I don;t have anyone to share that hope with and that makes IVF hard
And giving myself those shots myself - well thats a pain

BUT - I never thought about how hard it would be to dissappoint two people when it didn;t work
stay strong
good luck on 30th

by pj11, Apr 25, 2008 04:15PM
To: Lobby
Hi Lobby!  

Welcome… so happy to see you here!  Thank you for sharing your wonderfully honest story with us all!  --It’s really a love story… You’re there for each other and in it together through an extraordinary undertaking… This process of dealing with such an amazing physical science mixed within the unpredictable mystery and miracle of life… defies explanation!  That is, other than to those who have also gone through it!   And, everyone’s a little different too –it taps into so many emotions.

My husband and I just did an IVF transfer for  2nd time without success….  But, our relationship is so strong ... so we’re doing pretty good a result.  It touches me with how he is… You guys, husbands, can help so much.. and he definitely has his own emotional way of dealing with it all.  I know these challenges, like other major life challenges, can be surprising gifts to appreciate and know one another better.  It’s worked that way for us.  We just wish that this gamble of IVF didn’t cost so much and that we will at some point "win the jackpot”.   We always try to inject humor through this process --as much as we do the actual injections!   When my husband had to do his “specimen thing” –he  wrote “Lunch” on the outside of the to get a smile out of the lab technicians.   We both kept our doctors and techs laughing along with us –we like that!  That’s our way…  And, when we’ve been down, we do mope together and at  other times one of us will try to cheer one another up. (It's gone both ways)

I’m glad you two didn’t wait longer –We feel we may have had better odds if we started a few years earlier. (We were just dumb about this –Amazing for a resident Doctor and and Exec, huh?)

My husband is also a bit younger than me... I’m 42 and he’s 39. (not as much of a spread, but in this fertility game if feels like dog years for me)    I fortunately also look a lot younger…Those who didn't know my age were surprise when they heard how we felt we were running out of time to start a family and were starting to panic!  That is until they learned my age!  I'm just trying to make sure my eggs are looking younger too!  –We also had one A embryo, and two B’s this last round.

HANG IN THERE!!!!   The 2 week wait is the worst!  Mood swings will definitely continue!  Keep positive, and keep the humor!   Try to distract yourselves and keep mentally active on other stuff (harder said then done, I know!) YOU GUYS HAVE A REALLY GOOD CHANCE!  You could have a bambino in there!

So GLAD you can represent good MEN out there!

SENDING BABY WISHES AND CAVIAR DREAMS!  

by pj11, Apr 25, 2008 04:29PM
To: mysty

Thinking about you and sending you all the best!  

You are so strong for doing this...and you CAN do this!

Please keep connected with others going through it...  This website helped me a lot!!! Although my husband is great, he works so much and is already in a high-pressure life and death job, so much of the time I really had to deal with it  all on my own, separately.  My husband really couldln't be there for everything... No matter what, as you deal with this, a good portion of it is still alone.... with your own thoughts and feelings...  Acupuncture/meditation helped alot for me too.

Take Care!  SENDING BABY DUST!!!!

LOVE

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 25, 2008 07:23PM
To: Lobby and Mysty
Hello and welcome!  

Lobby, your story was beautiful!  It is truly amazing how two people can love each other so much and be so supportive.  The few of us that are lucky enough to have husbands like you......well we should feel like the luckiest women in the world.  Your journey sounds awesome and I can't wait to hear you get your BFP!  I'll be praying for you!

Mysty!  HI and welcome to our little world!  So are you doing IVF on your own?  If so, I can't tell you how much I respect you!  You must be a very strong woman to be able to endure this emotionally.  Please know we are all here to listen, to give advice and whatever else you need.  This site has gotten me through this past month and I feel like I've connected with so many amazing people.  I hope to keep in touch with many of them for a very long time.  And HOPEFULLY we'll all be able to share our exciting baby stories together one day.  STAY STRONG and POSITIVE and Great things will come to you!
xxoo to you both!

hello to everyone else!  xxooo
Rach

by LWitte, Apr 26, 2008 12:02PM
To: ALL
Wow!  So much has happened since I have been away on vacation!  

Rachel – CONGRATULATIONS!!!  I am so excited for you!  Wow! Triplets!  I had head that they could split.  I just told my husband about your experience and I think made him a bit nervous!    That is great that your Dr did the ultrasound so quickly!   I have been dying to have mine to see how things are going!   Keep us updated on your progress!

Welcome to our new friends!!
Lobby,   - your words were wonderful to hear!  I am going to share your story with my husband.   It helps him to know that he is not alone out there.  

Carmichael – Remain positive!   The 2ww will be over before you know it!  

Mysty – We are all here for you any time you need us!   I think you are a very brave woman to be doing this on your own!  

& Tami  - let us know what your results were!    Welcome!

We go on Monday for our first ultrasound.   I have been feeling great.  Breasts are a little bit sore, and I do have to go to the bathroom fairly frequently.   But other than that,  I am feeling great.   At times I think almost too great, like nothing is happening in there anymore.   But I have to think that if something ‘bad’ happened, then I would definitely know it!    Granted, it is still early for any sort of morning sickness to start.  I just know that I’ll feel a lot better once I have that ultrasound!  I’ll keep everyone in the loop once I have it.  

Lots of baby love and kisses to everyone!!  

by rbdancegirl79, Apr 26, 2008 04:06PM
To: Lwitte
WELCOME BACK LWITTE!  I hope the cruise was relaxing and amazing!  I wish we could get away right now!  Glad you're feeling good.  I am the same way.  Breasts are VERY sore (esp w/o a bra), urinating alot and SO TIRED I'm in bed by 9 every night if not early.  The cramps this week were scaring me a little, but no bleeding, so I hope I'm okay.  I'm sure you're FINE and I'm sooooo excited to hear about your first ultrasound.  

My dh was the exact same when I told him!  He kept saying "three" for almost 24 hours?  Obviously excited, but you could tell he was really nervous!  As am I.............we all know the risks.  BUT, I'm trying not to think of that right now.  Dh seems to think I'm going to end up with twins.  I think b/c the 3rd sack was so much smaller than the other two.  We'll see this Tuesday.  

How far along are you now?  I'll be 6 weeks tomorrow.  we are telling his family tuesday after the ultrasound.  We should at least SEE the heartbeats.  =D  Keep us posted and welcome back!  I missed you! xxoo!
Rach

by mysty2001, Apr 26, 2008 04:31PM
lwitte - let us know how u/s goes - ms is weird the times I have versus have not felt it
rbdance - let us know how many HBs you hear - I just stare at the screen till I see the heartbeats - it always makes me nervous

by deedeeh, Apr 27, 2008 10:32PM
To: everyone & anyone
did second ivf on Thursday (transfer). Today is sunday (4 days later) - today I started feeling a little mild cramping (like mild period cramps) which i hope is too soon to have cramps for my period but who knows!?; I have been doing acupuncture and yoga (which relaxes me) but took 2 days off right after to lie around even though they did not suggest bed rest at all. The cramping and bleeding after the retrieval was pretty big for me but they said it was normal. I had 3 embryos transferred. 1 really good one and 2 pretty good ones.

Does anyone have any advice on this day 4 (after transfer) cramping. I was pregnant once but miscarried at almost 12 weeks and Mostly what i recall about those early symptoms before I found out was I had no cramping but some bad headaches but it was a natural pregnancy - no drugs.

first time in a chat room scenerio but this is the most support I have seen. My hospital is not very supportive.

thanks.

dd

by LWitte, Apr 28, 2008 06:45AM
To: Deedee
Hi DD!  and Welcome!  

I have to say that the period cramping is completely normal.   We have all felt it and it scared each of us!    Which is probablly the main reason we have all found eachother and this support group!     Everyone I have talked to experienced the same mestral type cramping after their transfer.   My Dr and my acupuncturist both also confirmed with me that that feeling is normal.  In fact, my acupuncturist said that it is better to be feeling something than nothing at all!      I did transfer on 3/30 and I still feel a bit of cramping here and there.      So try not to let it worry you,  it is ok to feel those cramps.

I know that everyone is different,  but my acupuncturist strongly suggested that I stop yoga during the few weeks after transfer.  She thought that the twisting and stretching may not be a good thing to do when the embryo is trying to attach and grow.    Do what you feel is right for you, but I just wanted to share that piece of advice that I received.  

Keep us updated!   Lost of baby dust your way!!!  

by deedeeh, Apr 28, 2008 08:14AM
To: LWitte
Thank you for responding - I feel better hearing about the cramps but I am wondering about yoga now. I did modify and avoided twists because I remember a teacher told me that when i was pregnant before my miscarriage.

My doctor said it wouldn't cause a miscarriage or stop me from being pregnant but might cause me to blame myself if i wasn't successful this month. It is a huge stress reliever for me and this "project" has caused me more stress than I ever imagined (as I am sure it did everyone here!) so I felt if I feel good than it must be good but now I don't know. One acupuncturist told me not to do it - pretty much just told me to lie around/another told me of course I can do it - just don't run a marathon or lift heavy weights.

I googled Yoga and IVF and it seems some IVF clinics offer it as a helpful aid so it must be a debate whether to do it or not. ANyone else know anything on it. I get the sense that traditional acupuncturists and yogi's might differ on this issue.

Still crampy but don't feel as bad about it since joining the forum.
thank you.

by LWitte, Apr 28, 2008 01:03PM
To: DeeDee
I jsut wish someone would tell us exactly what we can do and what we can't!   ;-)   So much of it is left to interpretation.    I tended to lean towards what my acupuncturist told me since I feel like yoga fits in that Eastern Medicine category which she is a Dr for.  So where some Dr's may say that yoga is good because it is about breathing and relaxing, they really may not fully know what all is (or can be) invovled with some of the moves and positions.  

Hang in there!  

by LWitte, Apr 28, 2008 01:05PM
To: Everyone
Hey!
I wanted to give everyone an updated on my first sonogram appt this morning!    
So I received good news and not so good news.   I currently have TWINS!!!   There are 2 embryos in there and we saw the heart beat in both of them!  They are so cute!  
Here is the low down -  one  is doing great.  He measured 9.9mm.  They said that he is one day ahead of schedule in terms of development.  His heart beat was 140 which is also right where they want it to be.  
But the other is not doing quite as great.  She measured at 5.7mm which they said is about 3 days behind development.  Her heart beat was 116 which they want a minimum of 120.  
They are completely preparing me for the fact that she may not make it.    They have me coming in next Monday for another sonogram which should tell us how she is doing.  I just hope that she will be a little fighter and hang in there with us!!  

So that’s my news!!!    I am 7 weeks as of tomorrow and my due date is 12/15ish!   So exciting to finally know these things for sure!  

Oh, and PS - I talked to my Dr again today about the various pulls and cramps I am feeling and he said totally normal!    

So all of you crampy women - hang in there!!

by mysty2001, Apr 28, 2008 06:05PM
lwitte - congrats
my first u/s six weeks 2 days the HR was low and tech was worried - when I called the RE they said the only thing at 1st u/s is cardiac activity or not
so hopefully all is well BUT I am glad you are prepared

by deedeeh, Apr 28, 2008 09:14PM
To: lwitte
I want to send back some of the good vibes you sent me. No matter what, consider your results a success - I hope she is a little fighter too. I think her mom is a fighter and that's gotta be on her side. WIshing you a great, restful night.

I am still keeping up with my yoga but being gentle and restful vs. Madonna-style yoga.

I called my doctor about these 4-day after transfer cramps and she said that is perfectly normal and I shouldn't worry - easier said than done or there wouldn't be a support system such as this!

thanks again for your support.

deedee

by deedeeh, Apr 28, 2008 10:02PM
To: lwitte
I want to send back some of the good vibes you sent me. No matter what, consider your results a success - I hope she is a little fighter too. I think her mom is a fighter and that's gotta be on her side. WIshing you a great, restful night.

I am still keeping up with my yoga but being gentle and restful vs. Madonna-style yoga.

I called my doctor about these 4-day after transfer cramps and she said that is perfectly normal and I shouldn't worry - easier said than done or there wouldn't be a support system such as this!

thanks again for your support.

deedee

by carmicheal1, Apr 29, 2008 11:34PM
To: ALL
Hey everyone!! I just love reading the updates and hearing all of your experiences! Welcome new ones and thanks for sharing your experiences!

Okay....I have to share some WONDERFUL news with you all!! We went on Monday for our test and it was POSITIVE!!! We are pregnant! It is sooooo great to hear but my husband and I are still asking ourselves if they really told us that. I have to go back Wednesday for another HCG to make sure the levels are rising so say a little prayer please.

So with that said..... deedee, don't worry about the cramping. I was sure that I was going to start at any moment (just like rbdancegirl told me about herself). They have eased up now but I still do have them.

LWitt-thank you for the update. Please keep us informed on how everything is going and I will keep you in my prayers. Same goes for all of you! This group has helped me relax many times just to sit here and read about everyone elses experiences!
Thanks for all the encouraging words!!
carmicheal

by deedeeh, Apr 30, 2008 08:36AM
To: carmichael1
Congrats and thanks for your words of encouragement. I tried finding you in the previous e-mail but got lost i a sea of stories and warmth. Can u tell me your story - is this pregnancy IVF or IUI? How many attempts? Embryos? Just want to catch up on your details.

I will say a little prayer for you but hoping you won't need it. Is this your first pregnancy? How did you feel in your first couple of weeks after procedure?

good luck at the appointment.

deede

by lobby, Apr 30, 2008 09:05AM
To: Big day today
Ok so im back for a quick update. Today my wife goes to get the blood test. Were having them leave a message on our home phone so we can hear together. I do have to say that we cheated a bit. She took a HPT the last 2 days which did come back positive. We are cautiously excited but I know there are chances of the trigger shot still being in her system. She is 5'6 122 lbs and it was 14 days and 15 days after the trigger shot. I of course read everything on line as to how long it can stay in your system and I heard 10 daysto 14 days to even longer so we just have to wait a few more hours. Last nights sleep needless to say wasn't existent so im a little tired right now. Funny to think even if and when it comes back positive you can get real excited but then you have to wait 2 days to make sure the numbers are going up. Then you hear people that miscarried at week 7 or there were complications later in pregnancy or down syndrome or autism. I guess that's what being a parent is all about, constantly worrying. Well as I told my wife it's a marathon not a sprint sometimes I have to keep reminding myself. Good luck to everyone again and I will have my update tomorrow. I swear I think there are more people with fertility issues then not!!!

by mysty2001, Apr 30, 2008 05:28PM
can't wait to hear lobby
congrats carmichael

yes I have had FET with numbers doubling and miscarried - I keep saying I don;t want to tell anyone i am preggo till I have a baby because you just never know - so I understand where you are coming from lobby

by deedeeh, Apr 30, 2008 10:06PM
To: anyone
Today is day 6 after transfer and my cramps and body temperature feels more and more like period cramps (i don't get bad ones but I am experienced enough to know my own signs) Trying to stay calm and felt better when reading the familiarity of the situation from some of your experiences but mine do really feel like period cramps now and wondered if that is common - the cramping i had right after the retreival was much different - that was painful and felt deeper - I am just wondering if the pregnancy symptoms are really like PMS feelings/hot and gross/crampy. The pregnancy i had that ended in miscarriage - I don't remember any period-like cramps. if this is too hard or tedious to advise, does anyone have a web site I can go to without joining another group? I don't want to join another group. I like this one best. I am trying not to obsess but I really relax when doing yoga and then i got nervous about the advice I shouldn't do yoga so now I am just obsessing. sorry to be a whiner. Just having a low day. Thanks.

by carmicheal1, Apr 30, 2008 11:28PM
To: deedee
Hi deedee, I feel for you because I know how it feels to sit and think about it all the time especially when  you get the PMS symptoms. I honestly thought that I was going to start because I had my symptoms that I normally have before I start which I have never had in the past.  About 4 days after transfer, I cramped all day long nonstop and the next day was a little better. I started feeling very shaky and jittery and at first I thought that was pms for me too because that is normal for me as well. When do you go for your test?

You had asked me about my previous history....well it is a very long one so I will shorten it for you. This was my second attempt at IVF, well actually 3rd, my first one was cancelled right before my retrieval. But it was my second full cycle. The first one was unsuccessful. We did transfer 2 embryos. I went back today for my 2 day doubling which was really good but you just have to be so cautious as all you well know.

No, this is not my first pregnancy. I have two children who are such a blessing to us. You always know how much you are blessed to have children but then when this happens out of the blue, it gives you a whole new prospective on just how precious a gift they really are!!

It is like Lobby said a little while ago, it seems like there is more people with fertility problems than not. By the way, Good luck Lobby, Keep us posted!!

deedee, I am feeling really good right now. The cramps have eased to just feeling some small twinges every now and then with very mild cramping. I will go back next week for more labs and then the following week get to have my scan!

I  hope I have answered your questions and hope it helps some. Please let me know if you would like to know anything else.
Hang in there ! Lots of prayers to you!!
Carmicheal

by lobby, May 01, 2008 10:04AM
To: WOW
Well our test came back positive and it was at 466. That seems very high which im hoping is a good thing. I am just trying to keep everything in control as I have heard so many sad stories of miscarriage and bad things. My wife is always happy and optomistic so when I am around her I feel the same way. I wish everyone luck as were all in the same boat.
She had cramping within 24 hours after transfer. She felt bloating and too thought she was getting her period. We took it as easy as possible and made sure to take the progesterone shots daily same time each day. If you have any questions feel free to email me. I know I had millions and one thing we said is we would be there for anyone going thru the same thing. ***@****
Good luck everyone!

by deedeeh, May 01, 2008 01:26PM
To: anyone
Today is day 6 after transfer and my cramps and body temperature feels more and more like period cramps (i don't get bad ones but I am experienced enough to know my own signs) Trying to stay calm and felt better when reading the familiarity of the situation from some of your experiences but mine do really feel like period cramps now and wondered if that is common - the cramping i had right after the retreival was much different - that was painful and felt deeper - I am just wondering if the pregnancy symptoms are really like PMS feelings/hot and gross/crampy. The pregnancy i had that ended in miscarriage - I don't remember any period-like cramps. if this is too hard or tedious to advise, does anyone have a web site I can go to without joining another group? I don't want to join another group. I like this one best. I am trying not to obsess but I really relax when doing yoga and then i got nervous about the advice I shouldn't do yoga so now I am just obsessing. sorry to be a whiner. Just having a low day. Thanks.

by topaz1271, May 01, 2008 03:09PM
To: deedeeh
This is my first time posting to this board but I have read all of the comments.  I had my first transfer done on April 18th and I have had cramping ever since.  Around the time I would have started my period I had strong cramping.  My nurse said that pms symptoms are normal because of the progesterone as well as the ovaries getting back to normal size.  I had my blood test yesterday and got my BFP with a HCG level of 187!  I will be going for my second blood test on Saturday and first US next Wednesday.  I'll be happy to get the second number.  I still have some cramping but again the nurse said it is normal.  Try not to worry too much about the symptoms you feel.  I know easier said than done.  

Good luck and remember, just take care of you. :)

by deedeeh, May 01, 2008 03:19PM
To: topaz1271
Topaz:
thank you for writing me. I am just having one of those days and after 2 years of trying, one miscarriage (and I am not young), feel it can't be the only thing I talk about with those closest to me - probably drains them and me and in a way adds pressure to every step as u likely know.

I am happy for you. Is this your first baby? How many embryos did u transfer?
Were your cramps really similar to period cramps? They said I had one really good embryos and 2 pretty good ones so I don't know if u suffer period signs for the weaker ones if they don't implant. I wish we didn't have to become such experts on this topic but it's all I want to know about!!!!

thanks again for writing - it's the first good feeling I had today.
I wish you all the best and would love to hear from you again.

by mysty2001, May 01, 2008 04:51PM
wow lobby
great number

by topaz1271, May 01, 2008 05:20PM
To: deedeeh
Hi again.  I'm sorry for your m/c.  Was that from natural or IVF?  I know what you mean about talking to family and such.  They all say think positive not negative but they really don't understand what you're going through, mentally, emotionally and physically.   Of course it is all you can think about and you don't want to talk about it too much because you sound like a broken record and over dramatic.  At least that is how I have felt.

Yes this is my first baby and first and only attempt at IVF (finances).  I am 36 and have been trying naturally for about 8 years and finally my b/f and I decided to try the IVF.  I've had endometriosis for years but they found out that I also have deminished ovarian reserve when I started this process.  I had 7 eggs, 5 attempted fert. and 3 succeeded.  They transferred one 8 cell and one 9 cell.  I didn't have the third left for freezing.  I'm hoping that getting fertilized was the major hurdle and everything will go well from here. Most the women in my family have always had successful pregnancies so I'm hoping that I will follow suit.  I'm perfectly healthy in every other way.  

I think everyones symptoms are different and none of them follow normal pregnancy symptoms because of all the meds. we have put in our bodies.  My cramping has varied from light twinges to pain that tylenol wouldn't touch (thankfully that was for just one day).  Last week I felt sure I was going to start but I didn't. :)  All you have to remember is it only takes one and you have Three!  :)

I will think positive thoughts for you.

Keep your chin up. :)

by SMA827, May 01, 2008 06:46PM
To: Anyone
I had my 1st IVF Transfer yesterday.  I was only on bedrest until this morning?? Could resume normal activities today.  I am having cramping and some spoting of something, but not blood?  Has anyone had this before?  I am already so anxious to find out the results.  Just concerned about the cramping and other stuff.

by 2bmomsoon, May 01, 2008 08:42PM
To: All
Hello to all I’m writing because I have read the posts everybody wrote and I thought we were the only ones going thru this waiting game.  My name is Luis and my Wife Sheila.  We just went thru the finally stages of the shots in the abdomen and finally the transfer.  For those who are going to start this IVF treatment too me it has been and still being a great experience.  I give my wife all the shots because she hates them and believe me she hates them.  She starts too sweet and gets nauseas.  So I became her official nurse.  Before her transfer we had fertilized 1-8, 1-8 but not to tight yet but still good and 1-4.  So the Doc decided to put in all three.  After the transfer I had her rest yes me for 2 days.  When she was sitting down and she wanted to get up I told her to call me and I will help her up.  It’s been 8 years on trying and we was pregnant once but it was an up topic pregnancy and they had to remove one of the tubes.  So just recently we decided to do IVF.  Anyway on the Progesterone oil for the ladies that are going thru that shot because it’s a bigger scary needle.  Use a ice pack on your rear for about 10 minutes,  for example my wife’s shot of oil is at 7:00pm so she puts on the ice pack at 6:50pm and she’s puts her feet inward and puts her head on the counter with a pillow.  When I put the needle in she doesn’t even feel a thing nothing.  That’s the worst of the shots so if you try it might be more comfortable for you.  4/25 was her transfer and till the day of today she’s been going thru hot flashes, cramps and her sore breast like her PMS is on the way even her back hurts and those were the signs of her getting her period.  But after reading the posts from everybody I told her that if it’s just your normal way of getting your period then that’s how it’s going to act like if your getting it.  After I read the post to her so felt a little better.  And as for me I been stressing out myself but I have too be strong for her and be positive.  I talk too the baby’s everyday telling them to stick too mommy and we love you.  I just think that if you talk to them while there floating around it might help but then again it’s just me whatever works right.  And it’s true about the wait because I couldn’t wait anymore so I brought the HPT.  I know I shouldn’t have but I did.  So we tried it today 5/1 and 5 days shy of blood test and the HPT was Neg.  My heart just sank to the ground.  I didn’t even want to show her but she wanted to see and she was bummed out.  But I told her it’s too early and lucky I saw the web page with all the posts and I made her feel better and myself.  So I’m not going to try anymore and just let the blood test give me the true results. Which is on 5/6.   I’ll let you all know that day and for the women that haven’t had the blessing don’t give up hope cause you will have your baby and I’ll be praying for those that have been trying and for those that are trying.  With a lot of prayers god will hear us praying and bless us all with a beautiful gifts…  God bless you all and lots of Baby Dust for you all…..

by deedeeh, May 02, 2008 01:10AM
To: topaz1271
again, thanks for your message. My m/c was natural preg. But tried to think of it as a good sign because at least it happened. But I made it almost to 3 months so almost thought I was in the clear. Yes, this process is so expensive and that makes me sad because don't know how many I can do either. Plus I am older so every month feels like a countdown to no longer being a possibility and my doctors are so blah and rushed all the time...but am in v. good health otherwise so trying to stay +. I am happy that you were able to try ivf  and had good success and  if I can send you some more + vibes, i would say you still have many good years left and u seem to be getting closer and closer to the finish line so I will hope for your success. Maybe a a few successes. It is a lovely time and this one doctor I wish I went to but he doesn't do IVF but I loved what he had to say - he said Love this time - don't treat it like a disease but a celebration and it did feel that way for me when I was preg.

the cramps and hot feeling hasn't gone away today and headache creeping in -all my normal signs - although when pregnant , I had a nasty headache before so at least I know that could be anything. It's just 7 days after transfer (6 if you count the transfer day as 0) so i am wondering if it's too soon for period but who knows!!!! also the progestrone (have you heard this?) delays your period so that's frustrating because at least if u are negative, you know you're negative and now this progesterone is playing an evil role, at least in my head because I don't know if it is tricking me. Have u heard this about progesterone. Does it make your chest feel very sore and heavy/I feel that way a lot this month? Anyway - I'm obsessing again but at least I have found some sisterhood in this thru this site. Best to you and hope to hear more updates.
deeee

by deedeeh, May 02, 2008 12:30PM
To: anyone
I've been having period-like cramps for a few days now (currently 7 days after IVF transfer - sorry I am still figuring out the shorter codes you use/just figured out what everybody meant by AF) and have been whining about it on this discussion for a few days; anyway, I am using 2 progesterone suppositories a day. Do they actually totally prevent the AF bleeding until u stop using them? Can u still be on them and start bleeding? My test isn't til Monday and I can't bring myself to do a HPT. In previous IUI cycles they put me on them and it really seemed to delay period but don't know if they actually prevent bleeding all together. Normally after this much AF cramping, I would have started to bleed, even though it's kinda early in my cycle. For those listening not on Progest. Suppositories after IVF, what day is typical to start bleeding? I called my nurse to ask all this and she just told me to relax and wait til test but just feeling so anxious and obsessed that i need to let some of this out and I can't find exactly what i am looking for on web sites - how close are AF cramping symptoms to pregnancy symptoms and does the progesterone absolutely prevent bleeding. thanks for listening.

by rbdancegirl79, May 02, 2008 07:38PM
To: ALL
HI everyone!  I've been away forever, so many new people are on here!  WELCOME!  I hope everyone is doing okay in their 2 ww!  I'm praying for each and everyone one of you!  Okay--
Deedeeh--DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THE PERIOD CRAMPS!  We also tried for two years and I know my body soooo well.  After every IUI, I would feel the cramps coming and just KNOW my period would follow.  Every month it did.  With IVF, I started cramping 2dpt--it was on and off for about a week.  Then at 9dpt, I spotted and cramping was BAD.  Cramping continued, very CONSISTENTLY!  And I promise you, every time I would go to the restroom, I would wait for my period to start.  I am now 6wks 6 days pregnant!  and until yesterday, I have had the exact same type of period cramps.  I'm goign weekly for my u/s and I'm still nervous every time I go, bc/ I'm scared the cramping means something bad.  My dr. told em that the progesterone delays AF.  I don't know what kind you're on, i'm on prometrium suppositories 3x a day and PIO every other day.  So try and relax and stay rested.  I had no other symptoms before my positive beta.  

CONGRATS CARMICHAEL AND LOBBY!  Lobby, those are REALLY HIGH NUMBERS!  My first beta was 244 and I had triplets in there!  GOOD LUCK, I bet it's at least twins!  

To everyone in their 2ww, I hope you're hanging in there.  

Update on me.................I'm now 6 wks 6 days preggies.  After my first u/s we saw three sacs.  This week was pretty rough.  I went on Tuesday and 2 of them didn't make it.  I was NOT ready for the sense of loss that overcame me!  All we've ever wanted is one healthy child and to go from 3 to 1 was devastating!  BUT, we are thankful for the one we have left!  We saw the heartbeat, it was 120 and he/she was 7.8mm.  The dr. said it was ahead in development by 2 days.  Which makes me VERY happy!  I go again Tuesday and basically, I count the seconds till I know the little one is still okay!  I'm still having cramps (which worried me a little), but they say as long as there is no bleeding I should be okay).  I also have a small subchorionic bleed, which is like a bruise in the uterus.  it can cause bleeding, so I've been told to take it VERY easy.  I'm trying!  

Anyways, I hope you ALL are wonderful, xxooo and TONS of baby dust!
R

by deedeeh, May 02, 2008 11:06PM
To: rddancegirl79
Thank you for mentioning some kind thoughts to me in your note but things just seem to be getting worse since I wrote the last thing. My crampiness continues, I feel hot then cold, then hot...and now I have consistent brown spotting  starting today (not so much when I wipe-sorry for TMI but on a liner).

Did my transfer last Thursday so probably not too soon for AF (now i know the lingo!!!!). i am still taking progesterone  suppositories 2ooMG (x2) a day and don't know if it's those or something else, but my bbs (is that the right acronym?) feel enormous and heavy. I am not doing a HPT - I just can't spend anymore money!!! - so waiting for early this week for proper test. I know everyone says their cramping feels like AF cramping but mine is going on for so many days, i don't get it. My normal AF cramps last one or two days and then that's it. This has been like 4 days and is getting more intense.

But on to you....I know that the loss of two must be enormous but what your doctor says about your remaining little trouper sounds so positive. To be ahead of schedule sounds so great. I guess if I got pregnant, what I would try to do is to laughter therapy (I heard about someone doing it when they were having a tough pregnancy, and had to lie around a lot and rented the funniest TV shows and movies on DVD and tried to laugh as much as she could  instead of lie around and worry- she had a healthy baby despite her challenging pregnancy - don't know the person but it sounds pretty funny and inspiring.

I should take that advice myself but at this stage, i just want to know I will get to the starting line before thinking about getting to the finish line. Anyone have anything to say about brown spotting with AF cramping/sweatiness at this point in cycle? I am really losing it but,  "dance girl", you were very kind to say that to me. I really don't want to talk to the family and friends i see all the time and I don't know if talking to my husband about every twinge I feel is doing us much good. he gets more down than me and at this point, i can't try to cheer him up. so reaching out, i guess, probably taking up too much space here. thanks.

by debs60, May 03, 2008 03:49AM
To: Deedah
Hi its good to find a forum that talks about cramping, I am on my third IVF cycle and with the first two I had cramping starting on day 9 after transfer.  This time the cramping has started earlier I am on day 5/6 had the transfer Monday, 2 frozen embryos. I am in loads of A/F pain since yesterday. I am worried too! I keep comparing my experience from before when I wasnt successful. I have had three children in my early years and never had any symptoms. But as I am older and had a steriliation reversal 2 years ago  so I am more sensitive to pain. I also have a fybroid at the top of my tubes.  I have had some sweats but no spotting. I hear its normal to cramp but it didnt help me the two times I wasnt successful so I am like you v worried. I have spent loads of money and this is my last chance. so pressure is on.  Good luck

by rbdancegirl79, May 03, 2008 07:21AM
To: Deedeeh
Good morning--first put a smile on that face!  I obviously don't KNOW whether you are pg or not.......but I PROMISE you this.............I was feeling the exact same way!  I did not have the sweats, that's the only part I can't give you any advice on.  My cramps started immediately but did not get consistent until 7dpt or so.  Then I spotted at 9, cramping was HORRIBLE at 10dpt.  I was convinced that af was trying to come but the progesterone was stopping it.  And I'm not kidding you, I've been having the exact same cramping for over 2 weeks.  I think everyone is just different.  I cried all weekend before my beta b/c I knew i wasn't pregnant!  People told me the same thing I'm telling you, but PLEASE try and stay positive.  I agree with not talking to your dh about every twinge.  I did have my mom to talk to though.  I didn't want to worry dh anymore than I had to, knowing he was just as sensitive as me with this.  But we are here for you!  Send me private messages if you need to vent, I'll sure be here to listen!  Are you still spotting???   Keep me posted.  I'll be praying for you!  When is your beta??  xxoo
R

by mysty2001, May 03, 2008 07:27AM
To: rbdancegril
congrats on pregnancy
I am so against docs who do early u/s just for that reason - there is no need to give a woman extra gried - my docs told me to go for u/s after my levels went above 2500 - that is when I knew I was done with those docs - I waited till 6 weeks for a viability u/s because HB was the only think IMO that mattered
I am so sorry you have to go through this - I wish your docs would at least give reasons - sorry
take it easy I have had a bleed before

by 2bmomsoon, May 03, 2008 07:52AM
To: Hello to All,
I hope you ladies don’t mind a male is reading your post and also posting here.  But I’m into the treatment more than my wife I think yeah I think so.  Don’t get me wrong she wants this to happen but she just doesn’t want to read anything till that BT.  But, I tell her about it and soon I’ll get her to read them and post.  Update today Saturday she’s feeling better little cramps and breast still sore and I imagine it will last for awhile but they hurt more at night.   She hasn’t been spotting or any signs of bleeding, I don’t know if that’s a good thing or not…But to Deedeeh I read in one of the forums or in a web site of IVF that brown spot is ok it’s the bright red you have to be more concerned about.   So I believe you’ll be ok and I got you in my prayers for a + on Monday and so will everyone else. (I think that’s when your going right for your BT)?   As for the hot and cold my wife has had the same symptoms; that is normal as per what Doc said.  Too anyone who is thinking of getting a HPT I say don’t don’t don’t it’s not worth the disappointment.  I’m proof of that and I felt terrible when it gave (-).  So don’t waste your money and relax read a book or do things to get your mind off of it.   Prayers and the mind are real powerful medicine, so just say to yourself everyday and every time that you are pregnant.  No family member of ours know what we are doing nobody.  We just like too keep it to ourselves till the BT or even till the second BT.  Why not let your HB know what your feeling this is a two thing process and I want to know what’s happening too my wife all the time and if it doesn’t happen for us (which I know it will) I would want to go thru this together.  You need him as support and to help you feel much better thru theses long 2ww.  So just tell him too relax…..  Hope it helped, I’ll keep you all posted on our progress with 3 more days too go!!!!

by deedeeh, May 03, 2008 12:03PM
To: rdbdancegirl79
Dance Girl - Thanks for your support. I don't know if this is a private message but I don't feel very private anymore - how do u send private message? So spotting has turned to pretty consistent brown bleeding (there is a slight hint of red but mostly brown) I am still taking prog. suppos; bleeding not yet a steady flow - just on my underwear and bathroom tissue. I called my clinic but they haven't called me back. I am pretty convinced this is a failed attempt by now - I am trying to stay positive but everything seems to be going in the direction of my period. even my cramping is not as bad today which is typical for me once bleeding starts during AF. I asked my husband to help think of a plan if we are negative and he doesn't even want to talk about it - he says to stay positive but I need that - a plan. I am older so maybe he feels hopeless. I didn't but now I am starting to (this was 2nd IVF and I did around 5 or 6 IUI's - one natural no-drug pregnancy but miscarriage). We are both scared to talk donor eggs - it really scares us even though I have seen happy people who went in this direction. I guess my only hope right now is if someone told me you can experience what seems like a period for one failed embryo (with cramps and bleeding) and that another one that was healthier is still viable? But maybe I am clinging to something unrealistic. I just can't find the info on the internet and I agree with some of the other people that the doctors wont say anything on the phone. maybe I will fold and do a HPT even though I vowed not to, thinking either result will drive me crazy! Let me know how I can send a private because I don't want to be a downer to anyone right now. On a happier note, I have a lot of faith in your situation. You have a great attitude and all the signs sounds good!!!!thank you so much.

by pj11, May 03, 2008 03:55PM
To: rbdancegirl79


Was just checking in and read your message... sorry to hear what you've been through.  I know it must feel like such a loss ... Please try to stay positive though... Everything really does sound good.  I  think you'll have a good, healthy pregnancy and child :)  

*Interesting what Mysty said --I'll keep that in mind too when it's my time for a baby u/s (thx Mysty). .... It also seems to be fairly common early on in a pregnancy to have that happen; 2 of my friends who went through IVF, started with multiples and continued on, each having one healthy, beautiful child!  

DeeDeeh --Hang in there, stay positive!  Do what ever you can not to obsess; it's so hard... I know having been there... And, it is extra hard being a bit older, you tend to put even more pressure on yourself.  Hang in there...  and for now, "DWELL IN THE POSSIBILITY" as much as you can.  

***CONGRATS TO LOBBY & CARMICHAEL!!!!  Yay!!!! Yippee!  --sounds good.

I'll be sending you lots of good wishes and prayers to all!

Sending fabulous baby wishes for all!  xox

by mysty2001, May 03, 2008 04:55PM
deedeeh
I hope all is well for you
BUt I consider this my mission to educate as many people as possible
please consider donor embryos - there are millions and millions of "babies"  out there waiting for a chance for life from two parents who will be loving and caring
this is such a win win situation - you save the babies from eternal frozen states - and you spend less money and can have more chances

I hope you and hubby can consider this if the negative vibes you are feeling ring true - if not - well I found a place to plaster my message and wish you the best of luck

by carmicheal1, May 03, 2008 06:19PM
To: ALL
Deedee- Hey Deedee, I hope you got my earlier message about my update when you had asked me the questions about my history but... listen, I have to say first, there is really no way not to worry about it and as for the pregnancy test, I know everyone has a different opinion on it because either way you are going to wonder if it was really positive or be really sad if it was negative. For me, I took mine a couple days early even though I said I wasn't going to. I thought to myself that with all the anxiety and frustration I was going through that it couldn't be any worse. But just know either way if you take it you won't know for sure without the blood test.  Now as for the donor eggs.... I say if you can't conceive on your own then I would definitely do it!!! Like Mysty said, the chances are soooo much greater with donor eggs! But I know that is a hard decision, just telling you that I am all for it!

PJ11- Thanks for the Congrats!!!!

Rbdancegirl- good to hear from you again! Sorry to hear about your news but very happy to hear about the positive side!!! Keep us posted! I go next Wed. for more blood work and maybe the week after get to have my scan.

2bemomsoon-Good luck and please keep us posted. Good to have you join us!

debs60- Welcome!!
Talk to you all soon. Lots of prayers coming your way!
Carmicheal

by deedeeh, May 04, 2008 01:48PM
To: carmichael1
Hi carmichael:

Thanks for note. I Guess I can conceive on my own because I got pregnant naturally and they say my eggs have fertilized well on both IVF attempts but I don't know when they will suggest donor eggs or  tell me mine aren't viable. They haven't said it yet and of course will be really scared when they do; I don't know how my husband will react or how I will; I don't judge anyone who goes that route - i don't judge any choice people make - whatever it takes to make u happy, I say but I guess I am not prepared for that yet til they tell me it's my best route. I know I can't even write about it without getting really emotional so i will stop thinking about it for now.

But today is bad, the blood turned heavier (from spotting) and now more red than brown so I guess it failed. I am still taking my progesterone because they haven't called me to say STOP. my cramps are gone although I did feel a little nauseous this morning (which I never do). i did my acupuncture today and he didn't sound very optimistic and suggested I take herbs as well next time. I believe in acupuncture - has helped with other things - but I would be interested if anyone had positive outcomes from it for pregnancy. It does relax me but not nearly as pleasureable as yoga and exercise.

anyway, i guess now my curiosity lies in what is making me not implant? Is it a weak lining? but on the ultrasounds, they always say it looks good. I want to be pro-active - does anyone know a good book on nutrition and fertility. i really think if you can get your body in the best shape possible that our chances improve. I know crack addicts get pregnant but I think i'd rather stack the deck in a healthy way. do you know I have learned more from this site than over a year of seeing a fertility specialist. It is totally impersonal at my place. I love my nurse though and she is one of the main reasons I stay. i have thought about changing but I also think the continuity and the knowledge they have on my history must be beneficial.

well, Carmichael, I hope you are having a great day and thank you again; this site, while it might be a mini-obsession right now for me, has definitely helped me through the last few days. My nurse told me to get off of the web sites because it won't do any good; but i think I have learned a lot; at least better questions to ask and gotten lots of cyber hugs. Everyone here seems so knowlegable. I didn't even know how many cels were considered good. They rarely explain anything to me. Chat soon, I hope.
deedeeh

by 2bmomsoon, May 05, 2008 05:28AM
To: All
Morning to all,
Hope everybody is doing fine.  Well only one day for the BT and this morning my wife began too spot.  Wow, all this time there was no spotting and I thought this was going too go sailing thru.  But I was wrong when I wife told me I have bad news, I’m spotting I felt my heart stop....  But I told her not to worry everybody seems to be going thru the same as spotting and some people actually become pregnant.  It's just brown spotting when she wiped and it just started today.  So close and this is now running with us.  Well I’ll stop talking because I’ll just keep on going, just keeping the faith and hopefully it's just part of the process.  Hope everybody is doing fine and I’ll keep you all posted from now till tomorrow.  May your prayers be heard  bye.....

by 2bmomsoon, May 05, 2008 07:03PM
To: All
Good Evening All,
This day almost gone, just got done giving my wife the progesterone shot and here we are just talking and watching TV getting our mine off of tomorrow the big day of the (BT).  Well today she hasn’t been spotting anymore and that’s good news.  But these are just symptoms that one has to deal with.  Today she’s been feeling twitches in her uterus now and then.  Has anybody also felt this maybe someone who is pregnant?  Well I hope everybody is doing fine and got good news on what they been waiting on. God Bless you all and I’ll keep you all posted on tomorrow’s progress.  Were both going in at 6:00am to take the BT, she’s going to work after and I’ll be picking up the results.  So keep your prayers coming as I will do the same.  Thanks to all for listening.

by 2bmomsoon, May 06, 2008 06:04AM
To: All
Well Morning,
Today is the day for the BT.  We took the HPT this morning because we had extra ones and we said what the hell can’t hurt and it can out (-).  Oh boy this isn’t good so we went already too get the BT and now the wait.  The results won’t be done till around 2:30pm so it’s going to be a long wait.  I read in one of the comments awhile ago that there daughter tested there self the day of the BT and it also came out Neg and when they went to get the BT it was Pos.  So I hope this is the case.  Well I’ll let you all know after 3:00pm the news.  We can use all the prayers possible, Take care till later…..

by 2bmomsoon, May 06, 2008 02:39PM
To: All
Well the results are in and I wish it wasn't but it is.  Neg......  I stared at the test hoping it would change but this is reality.  I'm speechless right now but ummm, nothing it was a pleasure to meet everybody in this site.  I wish I could say in two months I'll try again, but it took me a lot just to save for this one.  And unless I hit the lottery I don't see it happen anytime soon.  But I wish much success for the rest of you and hope everything works out.  With this I leave everyone.   God Bless.....  

by deedeeh, May 06, 2008 03:30PM
To: 2bmomsoon
I am sorry that you had a negative test. i did too yesterday and I am also very upset. the money is so hard to manage. I can't remember what led you to IVF but if you are able to continue with IUI's with injectable medicines, is that an option for you - it's not as expensive, is it? I know it's hard to hear advice because people don't know your situation but just thought I'd throw that out there.

I am feeling what you are feeling today. As a female, I feel like I am failing which if a friend told me that, I would say she is being too hard on herself and that's crazy but I guess we feel what we feel. Part of me still has hope and I am clinging to that right now. I am going to research as much as I can on some of the alternative cares like pre-natal exercise, health and nutrition, cut out all of my caffiene and just do whatever i can. if anyone has any good reading suggestions, please let me know. info on the internet is too overwhelming and I don't want to buy anything that isn't credible.

best of luck to you, 2bmomsoon. I wish you all the best.

deedee

by carmicheal1, May 06, 2008 07:20PM
To: 2bmomsoon and deedee
I just read both of your updates and it broke my heart and I just wanted to let you know that as hard it is for us to believe, God has a plan for us and it is in his own timing. I had to keep telling myself that, I actually got that email one day from Joel Olsteen and it came at a time when I just didn't understand why this was happening. Every time we would get bad news, I would tell myself that just to help.

My heart goes out to you both now because I understand exactly how this feels as this was my third IVF cycle. I know there is nothing I can say to make you feel better but I just wanted to tell you both that my thoughts and prayers are with you both!! I am wishing you all the best!
Sending lots of prayers your way,
Carmicheal

by deedeeh, May 06, 2008 09:16PM
To: carmichael1
thanks carmchael. Who is Joel? excuse my ignorance. I don't know who he is but I do take comfort that #3 was lucky for you - since I just struck out on #2...i am trying to remain hopeful - this certainly takes the wind out of my sails but I am not ready to talk donor eggs yet - it's not wrong - I am just not ready - I guess they keep saying, all my stats are good. Can I get validation from this mystery joel?

how are you doing? what's happening? All good stuff, I hope.
thanks for writing.
dee

by carmicheal1, May 06, 2008 11:35PM
To: deedee
Hey dee,
sorry about throwing that in there out of the blue about Joel Osteen. He has tv shows and radio ministries. I actually don't know a whole lot about him other than my friend just loved him and so I started getting daily emails from them and I can't tell you how many of the daily prayers perfectly coinsided with my days! Anyway, for me it was just uplifting and helpful.

I am doing okay...thanks for asking. I have been having some pain in my lower abdomen the past couple of days which is kind of concerning but no spotting. I go back tomorrow for more lab work and maybe the next week for a scan. I wish they could go ahead and do one now to make me feel better. You just worry all the time at every little twinge. Will update you tomorrow afternoon...hopefully my levels are still rising good.

Good luck to you and try to stay positive!!
Carmicheal

by debs60, May 07, 2008 07:15AM
To: all
Hi just an update, sorry to hear your news Deedah,

I am on day 9pt I dont feel pregnant just sore and swollen inside for a while after I take the projestrone the cramping has eased. I think it will be negative as I just feel nothing  my breasts feel normal. Did anyone else feel like this?  Congratulations Carmicheal !!

by deedeeh, May 07, 2008 08:12AM
To: debs60
to deb60
the reason i was so nervous this time with all the cramping, spotting, etc is that the time i did get pregnant, i felt nothing so don't worry. Nothing can be good too. for me it was better. when is your test?
deedee

by mm806, May 07, 2008 09:41AM
To: all
Hi all
I'm new to this forum and I have been reading all your comments.  Its very touching and I'm glad I found someone who knows exactly what I'm going through.  Yes, the two weeks seem sooooo long and its only been 3 days for me.  I had my ET on May 5 and I'm currently on estrace and progesterone oil injections.  I don't feel any cramps right now.  But I do feel tiredness with my legs and the calfs area is stiff.  Is this normal?  Does anyone feel that?  Is this one of the side effects of the Progesterone oil injections?  Thanks for all your helps.

by Hopeful1225, May 07, 2008 11:35AM
To: All
I am so happy I found this site because I have been stressing out. I had the FET transfer on 4/24 and the beta test on 5/3.  My HCG level came back at 141, which is supposedly good, but my second beta test on 5/5 only went to 159 when it should have doubled.  My dr told me not to panic and to wait for a week and we would do another test and an u/s.  I told them I cannot wait so I go in tomorrow to have another beta.  Has anyone had this happen where initial levels did not rise appropriately?  thanks so much for any feedback!

by 2bmomsoon, May 07, 2008 04:12PM
To: All
Thank you for the comfort words Deedeeh and I’m very sad to here that you also had a Neg.  I know this is not the news we want to hear, also since we wait to do this procedure and we take care of ourselves more. Watching what we do, what we eat for one BT to tell you that it's Neg.  Yesterday I couldn’t eat anything everything just brought me too tears.  The Doc wanted to talk to me but I couldn’t find it in my heart to talk to him or anybody.   I had felt that I just lost my child.  It’s not so the money because this isn’t cheap to pay for. But it’s the process you have too go through   That’s what I really get so frustrated about.  When others who don’t even know there pregnant like a girlfriend of mine went to Orlando got on rollercoaster’s and did everything you can’t when your on IVF.  We take so much care of ourselves because we know that we have something inside and wait for these long 2ww just for this one day.  I’m sorry I don’t want to get anyone down it’s just the way I feel so don’t give up hope these are just things others just go thru.  Only God knows why….  For all that are going thru this I wish you the best and prayers are sent to each one of you.  Good luck in the process and don’t get anxious in the 2ww, you just want to run and get a HPT and sometimes you are just doing yourself harm than good.  So if you can just forget it and put your mine on something else it will be better for you.  Talking by experience but if you can’t wait I don’t blame you.  Good luck too all also Carmicheal1 thank you also for the caring words and wish you the best…….Hopeful1225 just to be safe i would repeat the BT...Wishing you the best and think Positive......

by sjoseph, May 07, 2008 09:23PM
To: All
I am on day 9 after FET.  My doctor thinks I only have a 15% chance because my lining was only 5mm. My first cycle was cancelled before the transfer due to the same lining.  This time we just decided to go for it, it was either that or use a surrogate, which we cannot afford.  He transferred all 5 of my last hope.  We go Monday, the day after mother's day, for my pregnancy test.  I've had cramping for the past few days, but no spotting. This site helps to hear people having the same symptoms.  I bought a book called Fertility Wisdom that is very interesting and has helped me through these long days.  Has anyone thought about adoption for another option?  Our insurance does not cover IVF, so Monday is our last hope to answer our prayers.

by SMA827, May 08, 2008 08:16AM
To: sjoseph
My thoughts and prayers are with you.  Keep positive thoughts. I too go on Monday to find out my results from my Doctor. This is my 1st IVF at almost 40 years old(this year). I have had 4 ectopic pregnancies and lost my one and only good tube, so this is our only hope of a biological child. However we did adopt about 6 years ago and I have to tell you she is a blessing. We can not imagine our life without her.  We became foster parents first and then adopted her. She was 22 months old when she came into our life. We also fostered 4 other children and would have adopted them as well, however they went back to the their parents. I am not saying it is an easy road but one that is worth it if when it works out.  My favorite quote "IT WILL ALL BE OKAY IN THE END, IF IT IS NOT OKAY THEN IT IS NOT THE END"  you may not be able to understand it all now, but someday you will. God has something wonderful in store for you.  Well I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Just remember you are not alone. This site has helped me so much.  Shannon

by sjoseph, May 09, 2008 02:41AM
To: Shannon
My thoughts and prayers are with you also.  Hopefully we will both get the best Mother's Day gift on Monday.  I know there is a plan for me, I'm just glad the horrible 2 week wait is over.  My appointment is at 10:30am, I will send you a post to let you know what happens.
This site has also helped me very much!

by SMA827, May 09, 2008 07:01AM
To: sjoseph
Hey, my appointment is at 9:15 so we will be finding out pretty close together. I hate to rush time, but I hope this weekend goes by quickly.  It would be a fantastic Mothers Day. It is suppose to be a beautiful weekend here as well, so maybe I will get outside and get some fresh air. I am so anxious to hear it from the Doc himself.  

by fucked, May 09, 2008 10:02PM
To: Shannon
I am wondering if anyone spooted blood after the 7day of embryo tranfer? I was told that it was too early to be bleading and to continnue to take the progestorone 3 x daily. I think its over for me. I am spotting brown discharche but from all the e-mails this seems normal. I guess the progestorone stops the bleedding since it is making a mucus blug. My breast hurt and stoped hurting but for today they started to hurt again. My breast have doubled in size. I feel like Dolly Partner. My friend has been teasing me. I guess its the hormones. this is my 2 IVF. I had IVF & ICSI the first time with a transfer of 6 embryos and it did not take. This second time, the doc recommended IVF only. I only had 5 embrios this time. I am 41 so at that age they wanted to put them all in to get the best results. I keep thinking its not going to happen just like many of you on this web site. We are hoping for a small miracle. I am a French teacher and I have always wanted my own childrren to care for. I understand what I would be getting myself into. I was suppose to get my results today. The nurse called the lab and I was told that the results are not ready. They would have them on Monday. So my cramps are very mild, I get a small amount of brown discharge, my breast are again sore and I am ready for bed at 8 pm. Keep in mind that I am a teacher dealing with children all day so it mighyt be that that is making me tired. I am dying to find out.

Sue

P.S. Sorry about my nickname but when I registered nothing I chose got acceted until I wrote ******! Funny!

by debs60, May 10, 2008 03:31AM
To: deedah
Hi deedah,
I spoke too soon I have started cramping again 12days after transfer feel like AF coming, i spoke to the nurse two days ago and she said its too early too get pregnancy symtoms as its the progesterone that makes you crampy as it softens up your insides so you get backache and soreness. She said you dont get symptons of pregnancy till you pass your A/F due date when the pregnancy hormones kick in. so I am day 29 of a normal cycle today. I dont have normal A/Fs as I am missing some occassionally. I am due to test wed but will wait till Friday to be sure.  Most people dont know they are pregnant till they miss a A/F ? so how people can tell how the 2ww has gone untill they test I just dont know? anyway keep your chin up !  

by carmicheal1, May 10, 2008 09:54AM
To: debs60
Hey debs60,
I was just wondering...what day was your transfer, 3 or 5? I had my blood test 9 days post transfer. I just couldn't help but wonder why your test was so late if you are 12 days now? It is such misery waiting isn't it?  Listen, try not to worry, I had lots of cramping after my transfer. I would have sworn my test was negative so I was shocked when I cheated and did a home pregnancy test a couple days prior and it was positive! (of course I know they say not to do that, I just couldn't wait and I was miserable). Then I had to wait until the blood test and wonder if it was right or not! I am now 22 days post transfer and I still have on and off cramping!  
Wish I could say something to make your wait not so tough but just hang in there!
Keep us posted! Lots of luck to you!!!
Carmicheal

by SMA827, May 10, 2008 07:07PM
To: F---ed
I have read that many women have the spotted brown discharge, so I would not be to worried about it. Stay positive, even though I know it can be hard. Everyone just keeps telling me that Monday will be here before I know it. Well as far as your breast swelling up already, I have not heard of that before. Oh well I guess all I can say is enjoy them.  Good luck,   Shannon

by deedeeh, May 11, 2008 12:11AM
To: deb60 and F-cked
Deb60: i am also wondering why you have to wait past 12 days for test but they must have some reason for it. They tested me 10 days after. I think the more i read and investigate, the more variety in symptoms and non-symptoms - some people who r pregnant know they are before they test; some people who r pregnant, feel nothing ( like me when I was) and the dr. staff is no help because they validate every feeling. But to F-cked, the nurse did tell me that brown discharge, even more than some spotting, is ok. I knew I was in trouble when my turned from brown to red and A/F-ish pretty fast but then again, when I called them with that update, she still said, in her career, she has seen everything - from total A/F symptoms to absolutely nothing and both types were pregnant so she said until the test anything goes. I will say if I do another IVF cycle, I am really going to try not analyze every little thing and try to stay as busy as possible because i felt very, very stressed this past time and I wish I did more socializing and will try not to think about it 24-7. Famous last words. easier said than done. One thing though, when I was pregnant, i felt like Dolly Parton too; however on some other IUI cycles with progesterone, they got pretty big too. Whatever the case, I hope it goes well.

all the best,
deedee

by debs60, May 11, 2008 03:28AM
To: Deedah @Carmicheal
Hi
I had  2 DAY2  EMB FET and was told not to test till day 16 after transfer?
cramping has eased today woke up with sore boobs. but today would be day 30 of a normal cycle so could be A/F due? still feel sore/tender inside. Too scared to test earlier as all the tests i have had have been BFN so while I wait theres hope.
x

by anadefreitas, May 11, 2008 09:53AM
To: All
Hello to all.
I've reading everyones comments for the past week and is was very helpful to know that I am not alone.
I Have PCOS and am also over weight, my husband has low sperm count and low quality sperms too. I had 3 IVF in the past with no success, Doc says it was not good egg quality.
After 3 long years  we are back. I did my transfer on saturday may 5th. Things were a looking  like the last 3 times. We have 18 eggs 6 of them fertilize at the day of the transfer we had 2 good looking 3 in observation an 1 discharge. So we transfer 2. They gave me the pictures of the embryos and by looking on line I could see that 1 was just ok and the other one was a little messy.
I have been having cramps over the week and that scar me a bit. I Start spotting on Friday night and still yesterday an this morning and that is freaking me out. My breast are sore with by reading you guys I see that is from the suppository progesterone I'm taking 3 times a day.
I did acupuncture since february and that help me a lot with the whole process.
I am thing maybe to go see my  acupuncturist I hear that it can do some points that help keep the embryos and not stimulate the uterus.
Have anyone Know anything about that?
Tomorrow is my big day. I am going to my blood test at 9:00. My heart speeds up every time I think about it. I really want to take a EPT test today, especially because is mothers day, if it came positive it will be the happiest day of my life, but I also know that if is negative it will be the worse.
Freaking out right now. Don't know how I'm got to get through this day and night.
Thank you all in advance and wish good lock for us all.
Ana

by sjoseph, May 11, 2008 12:35PM
To: All
It seems like a few of us are testing tomorrow, and I hope we all have the best mother's day gift ever.   Good luck, I will be posting my results tomorrow.  I'm sure I won't be getting any sleep tonight either.  I have had mild cramping for almost a week, very bloated, especially in the morning when I wake up, and sore breasts.

Best of luck!
SJ

by anadefreitas, May 11, 2008 12:57PM
To: sjoseph
When didi you have you transfer was a 5 or a 3 day embryo? Any bleeding at all?
Tell us a little about you.
Thanks and good lock

by sjoseph, May 11, 2008 06:03PM
To: anadefreitas
I had a FET on 4/28, so tomorrow is 14 days.  I had 72 hours of bedrest, after transferring all 5 of my embryos.  My lining was only 4mm, so that is why I had so many transferred.  My doctor and I just decided to transfer all of them because I couldn't afford a surrogate, and really didn't want to go through all of that.  I have not had any bleeding at all, except one little brown spot the day following the transfer.
Good Luck!
sjoseph

by anadefreitas, May 11, 2008 06:38PM
To: sjoseph
Every body that I speak here in this forum told me that the doctor told them to bed rest at least for 24 hors. Mine said to go home do not bed rest just take easy and I could go back to all my regular life on the next day, even sex.  I don't understand it must be something wrong.
I have decide if things doesn't work out this time I will get a second opinion. I'm lost.
Good to hear that you've feeling good. Hope things work out for you. Let us know yours results tomorrow.
Lots of baby dust for you!

by deedeeh, May 11, 2008 08:23PM
To: everybody and anadefreitas
I am doing acupuncture too and they put the needles in diff spot depending on cycle - many in stomach before transfer and when i started cramping, he put in less. is yours a traditional Chinese medicine doctor? Mine is. He also put some in my legs and one on the top of my head - it didn't hurt and I am a suck so if I can do it, anyone can.

He told me if I got pregnant, he would continue doing it to prevent miscarriage - But i would check with my doctor before I did that.

You mentioned surrogates. How do u research that? i don't know anything about it. They say my embryos look good, they fertilize well but I guess i am not implanting. Is that a function of my lining? My uterus? My activities?

Also, i don't know if it was you or someone else but I asked them why they didn't prescribe bed rest or low activity for me post-transfer? After the retrieval, i slept all day but then I was pretty much back to normal. They said I should do yoga, go to work - they just said, no sex, no heavy lifting, no very strenuous exercise and not because they thought it impedes on chances but because they say people blame themselves and all those activities will not affect the pregnancy so I am confused about it too.

I am trying to become more aware of things - aside from # of embryos, cels per embryo, lining measurement, size of follicle, FSH level - is there any other numbers I should be tracking. I just am starting to tune into it now all - before I just thought - am i pregnant or not pregnant. Now I want to understand it better. any advice, anybody?
thanks.

by anadefreitas, May 11, 2008 11:37PM
To: deedeeh
Yes, my acupuncurist is a Tradicional Medicice doctor. She is from the Domar Center in Boston. I love her. And also for me, it doesn't hurt. Before she used to put the needles all over, back, legs, stomach, head. But now, after the transer, only on my legs, feet, ears, hand, arms an all over my head.

She also helped me when I have back pain and with Ovarian Hyperstimulationn. It worked.

I'm just like you, I'm trying to become aware of things. Its to much numbers envolv and not knowing what it is give me a sensation of been powerless.

Hope we all have good news tomorrow.
See you guys later on the day.

by number123, May 12, 2008 12:10AM
To: to all
Hi everyone i am so new to am 30,  i was on the internet for months even before i started doing my 3rd IVF my transfer was on day 5  with 2 grand 1 embrios and today am on day 6 since my transfer but am having a lot of cramping and burning on my right side NO spotting at all my prego test is on WED @ 7:30 am so nervious i realy want to do a hpt tomorrow but am kind of worryed i do have 3 embrios froozen lease help thanks to all and good luck am praying for all

by debs60, May 12, 2008 03:35AM
To: everyone
Hi looks like a few of us will be testing this week so good luck!!

I am not feeling at all pregnant  breasts a little sore and tenderness inside still but no cramping i really dont think i will be pregnant as this is my third ivf and it feels the same as before. really nervous as I carnt afford to try again already in debt as took out a loan. My husband has no children of his own and I have had three so this is more for him than me. I have had a tubel reversal three years ago 2 iuis and two failed stimulation ivf attempts and two failed attempts with doner eggs.   My husband has said he will donate sperm to the clinic so he can feel that someone will benefit as he is younger than me it would be nice for him to think he has a child out there.  Its so hard as i know he would love a child of his own.  But he accepts what will be. I didnt realise how hard it would be to get pregnant Iin my 40s had no problems when I was in my 20s got pregnant easy and all pregancies went so well. Age is the thing ladies do it early dont wait !!!  

by anadefreitas, May 12, 2008 08:42AM
To: all
Hi everyone, I went to my blood work already but I have no hope. After spotting since friday, my period came this morning in full. That was my 4 attempt with IVF.

Number123  hang in there and try to relax, I know is hard my acupuncturist said that relaxation is the key!

Debs60  I know how you are feeling, the money is really hard to manage.
Good lock and let us know your results

by anadefreitas, May 12, 2008 11:07AM
To: All
Hello, unfortunately my numbers came out too low 10.8 and the nurse said that I probably had a chemical pregnancy, maybe the embryos implant but it did stay. I really don't know what that means is the first time mine implant. And its been really hard to know that they were here that they did implant and now they are gone. I keep blaming  myself.

I don't know how to deal with that feeling. Is that ever  going to go away?
Please help me!

by debs60, May 12, 2008 11:32AM
To: anadefretas
Hi sorry to hear your news, we can never be sure why the ivf fails i think its if the embryos develop and then implant. i have had 6 implanted in total so i guess the more you have the more chance. You musnt blame yourself as this is what nature does to prevent problems later. I did everything by the book both times and it still didnt work. I just wish it was cheaper so more people can keep going. it will get easier time is a great healer  just  be positive, if you can keep going then thats good, my friend did it 7 times and got twins so its really like rolling the dice.  its not your fault.

by number123, May 12, 2008 06:13PM
To: anadefreitas
thanks so much am so sorry to hear about you have faith never give up, i think i lost hope today i did a HPT  preg test this morning and it came out negative i was so hurt started crying i cant believe this is happening again i know for sure i will never give up, so now i have to wait till WED for my blood test well i already know the answer but still praying it may change my friends tells me no to believe in hpt but my second IVF i did the same and both came out negative ALL WOMAN OUT THERE HANG IN THERE IT MAY HAPPEN ONE DAY god bless

by anadefreitas, May 12, 2008 07:10PM
To: all
Hi
Thank you guys very much for the support. It's really a difficult time. I had to call my husband and ask him to came and pick me up so i could stay with him all day, couln'd stand by myself.
I have to go for another boold work on thurday and have to continuo on progesterone until the numbers go all the way dow.

debs60 . so glad to hear that you got twins makes me feel like there is a way and things is going to work.

number123 I know how are you feeling and I sorry to hear that it came negative. But wait for the blood work, maybe there is still a chance.

Thanks for everything and Good bless us all.

by number123, May 12, 2008 10:02PM
To: TO ALL
had anyone done HPT got negative and got positive on blood test i havent told my DH yet till i do the blood  test but i think he censu something is wrong cause of my eyes from crying all day and i have been so quite all day PLEAE HELP its so weurd caue i till have cramping and the worse thing is my right  ovaries is burning me so bad
THANKS EVERYONE

by sjoseph, May 13, 2008 10:00AM
To: all
I received my results yesterday, and they were negative.  It was only my first IVF, but I cannot afford anymore without going in debt and I don't want to do that.  We are looking into adoption.  I am also reading a great book called Fertility Wisdom By Dr, Angela Wu regarding chinese medicine that is very interesting and may consider hr help.  California does not cover fertility  at all, seems funny since it is one of the most liberal states in the country.  I wish everyone the best of luck and will continue to use this site.  
sjoseph

by rose73005, May 13, 2008 07:31PM
To: all
I have been reading everyone's posts and I find it so comforting to read other people's experiences with this crazy journey we are all on!  I had two embryos transferred on the 9th and am also in the 2ww!  This is my 2nd IVF attempt, my first ended in a miscarriage.  I also am having a lot of cramping which started tonight after working all day.  I thought maybe I overdid it at work but now am thinking it is just normal.  I look forward to following along with everyone's progress.  You will all be in my thoughts and prayers.  

by anadefreitas, May 13, 2008 07:33PM
To: sjoseph
Sorry to hear about your results and to know that it was you first and last one.
It's amazing that CA does not  cover IVF. But you said about chinese medicine, I hear that it's really good, especially with you do it with acupuncture. I am going to look for that too.
Hope you are feeling ok!

number123:  I don't have a lot to say from My IVF in the past about the HPT test, but from reading all the comments I know that people said that they got a negative With the HPT and them a positive Beta. Don't give up yet.

Hugs to all

by fourtimeslucky, May 13, 2008 09:55PM
To: MM806
Hi
Just wanted you to know that I too am on progesterone and estrace as well as baby aspirin and pre natal vitamins.  I also had my transfer on May 05 so I  am due to have my blood test in four days.  As for the sore legs and calves do you think it could be from the progesterone shots in the rear?  Please keep in touch with me as we are on the exact same page!!

by debs60, May 14, 2008 01:13AM
To: everyone
Hi all,

well I am in complete shock just done the prg test 16pto and its a BFP !! just shows you that you can never be sure about the symptons in the 2ww I have had two other IVF cycles and both where neg so I was convinced this wouldnt work either!!  and this time its  FET !! I am ringing clinic today as not sure what happens next. My cramping has stopped but feel quesy today. Best thing to do is not to over anaylize every pain. just relax if you can as you just carnt tell i really thought it wouldnt work as had lots of cramping. Take care  

by anadefreitas, May 14, 2008 08:04AM
To: debs60
Congratulation!
That is really goods news. It makes me feels like there is hope.
Keep in touch and let us know all the details.
And make sure you get enough rest and eat weel.
I am sooooooooooooooo happy for you!
Hugs!

by mm806, May 14, 2008 08:25AM
To: fourtimeslucky
wow, can't believed we're on exact same page :)  did you have a fresh ET or frozen ET?  my blood test is not till May 19th, but yours is on May 17th, right?  wonder why the difference in days.  I'm counting down the days, its been sooo long :)  This is my first IVF.  I'm on exact same medications as you are.  My legs and calfs are ok now.  Actually, some days its really painful and some days its fine, maybe its the way my dh injected the POI :)  Do you have any pains from the POI at all?  The injection areas are sore for me :)  so I walk funny :) Keep in touch!  Anyway, good luck and lots of baby wishes to EVERYONE!

debs60, congratulations!  I'm so happy for you.  Take care and let your dh pamper you :)

by carmicheal1, May 14, 2008 12:01PM
To: debs60
Debs60
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
I am so happy to hear the news! I know exactly how you feel. I was for sure I was going to start!  

Lots of luck to the rest of you!!! Hang in there! Keep us posted.

I got to go have my first scan yesterday! We thought there might be two but as of right now they only see one sac. We are very excited!!! It was nice and confirming to me to see and hear the heartbeat because it is just hard to believe it is actually true after this long hard road. Anyway just wanted to share.
Lots of prayers and best wishes!
Carmicheal

by cacaudinha, May 14, 2008 01:59PM
To: HCG level
Hi everyone.

I had my transfer on May 30th(one embryo) and Monday I had my first blood test(POSITIVE)))))) and my HCG was 2281, today they said I have 4451. They said there is a chance to be twins... Does anybody has such experience in high HCG level?

thanks,

by carmicheal1, May 14, 2008 03:39PM
To: cacaudinha
Hi, yes they can usually tell by your HCG levels if there are multiples. Of course they say they can't tell for sure without the scan but the other day when I had my first scan she asked me what my HCG was the week prior and I told her it was 2667. She said it is probably just one and sure enough when I went to have the scan it is just one unless one is hiding somewhere!  I just know that the levels are a lot higher with multiples normally.

Cool, if you transferred one embryo yours split in two. That is soooo amazing I think!!!
Hope this helps.
Carmicheal

by number123, May 14, 2008 10:53PM
To: to all
congrats to all have positive results and ladies please don't give up yet there is still a  chance of getting prego

anadefreitas>>>  i also did chinese medicine and accup at the same time for about 8 months they say its really good to do that couple of month before you start another ivf and the day before and after my transfer i did accup @ the doc office my first and second ivf i didn't do anything and i read that if you do that it  will help that's why my 3rd ivf i did accup, hope that helps ,i thought my blood text was today so i took my self to  the doc reach there and guess what my appoint wasn't till tomorrow Thursday now i have to worry for one more day am sooooo nervous

by SMA827, May 15, 2008 07:22AM
To: number123
Good Luck today!  Prayers are with you!

by anadefreitas, May 15, 2008 08:56AM
To: number123
Hi. I only did acupuncture because she said that I was already taking all the medicaments that the Doc. gave to me and she could not give me anything else.
I did acupuncture since february and I also did half hour before and after the transfer and 3 times for the waiting time ( Just because I was freaking out and she helped me with the stress ).
I went for another blood work this morning just to make sure the # went all the way down and my appointment with the doctor is next monday. I don't know yet what we are going to do maybe egg donor ( don't know with I can afford ). But we are not given up just yet.

Good lock tomorrow, I feel sorry that you had to go there and it wasn't today! I will keep you in my thoughts ! Good lock to you and hang in there!

Lots of baby dust for you!

by mysty2001, May 15, 2008 03:58PM
To: anafreitas
if you adopt embryos it is a lot cheaper
you can go through national org and your own doc
or maybe your own doc does it (mine does)
or a clinic in new jersey does it - cooper center

by number123, May 15, 2008 05:27PM
To: anadefreitas
Hi  am realy sorry to hear that my heart and prayers is with you
i got my results and is positive i cant believe after 6 years of trying, the nurse called this afternoon and told me that i didnt believe cause my HPT was negative 4 days ago i almmost faint, i do have  appoint on monday for another test. i tell you pls pls never give up even though my husband did i kept on tellling him i do have faith this was our last one we could not afford any more after 3 insermination and this was my third ivf i havent told myhusband yet am waiting until he comes out from work this i think his going to cry i just wana see his look on his face.
i had realy great lady for my accup and chinese meds i wish you lived closer  this ladys is great but before you start again i realy recomend herbs i did since september
i will be praying for you take care
ladys please dont ever believe what HPT tells you its wrong

by anadefreitas, May 15, 2008 06:59PM
To: number123
Oh my god!!!!

Congratulation. You must me in haven right now.
I am soooooooooooooooooo happy for you. I remember when  you you told us that your HPT came negative. And you believe and that is it, you are pregnant. That is amazing. That why I still going to try. I am not giving up.
Tell me how was your husband reaction after you tell him ok!

You brought tears to my eyes again. But this time tears of happiness and hope.

Be happy! Enjoy every moment.

Keep in touch ok!

Lots of hugs!

Ana

by rose73005, May 15, 2008 08:24PM
To: all
Congratulations number123!

I too have some good news, I did a HPT today and it was positive!  I am only 6 days past my 5 day embryo transfer so I'm wondering if this means a greater possibility for multiples because it still seems so early to have a positive result.  I'm not even supposed to have my blood test for 4 more days. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?  Whatever it is I am so happy and excited.  

Good luck to everyone:)

by fourtimeslucky, May 15, 2008 08:37PM
To: MM806
Hi again thanks for getting back to me yesterday.  We did a frozen transfer of two very nice embryo's (according to my Doc)  And we had it done at 1230 in the afternoon.  I don't know why my Beta is two days earlier than yours although I read that it can be done at any time after 10 days. The progesterone shots are actually getting easier to do but my butt is getting sore ...thats for sure I am reminded every time I sit down!! lol How are your symptons?  any cramping or spotting ?  soreness besides the injection sites?  I am tempted to do a HPT tommoro maybe I will... it is day 11 tough decision.  hope you are well      best wishes Lisa

by number123, May 15, 2008 11:49PM
To: to all


ANADEFREITAS --- hi am happy to hear that you are not going to give up, i did tell my self the same thing when you believe in something it will happen  i had five friends who got prego and 2 just had the baby and 3 are still prego i used to see them ad i cry all the time i wander why not me but you know what i never gave up i told my self that one day i will be the same have faith please
my husband came home and i let a note saying welcome home daddy and he was in shock for like half an hour and tears coming out he was like i cant believe this worked  the only thing he sayed is am glad that you never gave up, that made me so happy thats why am telling you PLEASE PLEASE DONT GIVE UP

ROSE 73005---i think you are already pregnant my HPT came out negative while blood test  was positive and you my have twins or more congrats

by number123, May 15, 2008 11:53PM
To: fourtimeslucky
with my experiance i will tell you please dont do HPT cause i did and gave me negative i was crying everyday till today when i got my blood test which was positive some time HPT dasent give you correct answer they suck please just wait till you blood test
good luck i know its had to wait that long

by carmicheal1, May 16, 2008 11:36AM
To: fourtimeslucky
Hi! I know it is sooo hard not to take the home pregnancy test. They work fine but with IVF it is soooo early alot of times they can't pick up the HCG yet so they say not to do them and wait for the blood test. Also, if you test too early you can get a false positive because of the trigger shot before egg retrieval.  That can last almost 2 weeks in your system!

I did cheat and take  my HPT a day and a half before my blood work which was to be on day 9. So my HPT was on the 7th night post transfer. Luckily mine was positive and I was hoping it was right! But....you are pretty close now you might could but it is just one of those things it is such a hard decision because we wait and wait and of course don't want to get a positive when it is really negative when you have the blood test!  

Good luck!!!!

NUMBER 123 CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

Carmicheal

by mm806, May 16, 2008 11:43AM
To: foutimeslucky
we've another thing in common, that's the time we transfer our two embryos too :)  was yours a day 3 or day 5 embryo?  Mine was day 3.  Yeah, when I sit down, I can feel my butts are swollen and sore.  As for cramps and spottings, I had on and off mild cramps, not too bad.  No spottings so far.  My injection sites are all red and bumpy :)  Does anybody bleed after they take the needle out?  Its happened for the last two days, maybe my dh did it wrong?  I'm sooooo tempted to take the HPT too, but my dh keeps stopping me and told me to wait till Monday :(  Like number123, its not acurate, I guess I'll wait.  So did you do a HPT?  You only one more day to go, you have your blood test tomorrow, right?  good luck and lots of baby wishes to you and everyone else :)

3 more days to go....its going to feel forever :)

Have a great weekend everyone.

btw, number123 & rose, congratulations!  really really happy for you both.

by rose73005, May 16, 2008 03:40PM
To: all
Thanks for everyone's advice!  I think I am okay as far as HCG because this was a frozen cycle and I didn't do a trigger shot or any other meds that have HCG in them.  Monday is the big day for me too MM806...I hope it's good news for everyone who is testing soon.  

by carmicheal1, May 16, 2008 07:53PM
To: Rose73005
Rose73005, I am sooooo happy to hear no trigger shots or anything because that was so early for testing! I tested early too and got a positive and like you, I didn't have a trigger shot either! So, I was like, YES it has to be!!!!

We have been over the moon but....today I have had some very light pink spotting and it has really terrified me! I have never had any type of spotting before with pregnancies but I know each can be different. What concerns me other than I have never had spotting before is that I haven't had any at all up until today. It has been a stressful afternoon for us. Just lying around hoping for the best!

I know some spotting can be normal in early pregnancy and I am 7-8 weeks but I also know what else it can mean. Can anyone share any experiences they have had with bleeding some in early pregnancy??? Even if it is a negative outcome, I need to hear your stories and symptoms.

THANKS,
Carmicheal

OH, CONGRATULATIONS ROSE73005!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by number123, May 16, 2008 09:19PM
To: to all
CARMICHEAL----- HI CONGRATS IF YOUR HPT  GAVE YOU POSITIVE THEN YOU ARE ALREADY PREGNANT AM HAPPT FOR YOU KEEP US INTOUCH WITH YOUR BLOOD TEST RESULT AM PRAYING FOR YOU

MM806---- YAH WHEN MY DH GAVE ME  THE SHOT IT CAME OUT BLEEDING TO AND OH MY GOD MY BUT WAS SO SORE WHAT I DID IS I WENT BACK AND ASKED THE NURSE TO DROW A CIRCLE WITH A BALL PEN FOR MY DH TO BE ABLE TO DO IT RIGHT AND THAT HELP ALOT ( I DID MY HPT 4 DAYS BEFORE MY TEST AND IT GAVE ME NEGATIVE I WENT FOR BLOOD TEST ON THURSDAY AND THEY CALLED ME WITH POSITIVE I WAS SO HAPPY THE THING IS I WAS CRYING SINCE I DID THE HPT TILL THURSDAY THATS WHY I SAY IF YOU CAN WAIT TILL YOUR TEST IT WILL BE GREAT
GOOD LUCK TO ALL

by fourtimeslucky, May 18, 2008 11:10AM
To: all
Have to go to day instead of yesterday for my Beta,  because the 17th fell on a saturday so will be going today to my doc's office !!!!!! one more day is killing me.  Good luck to you mm806

by rose73005, May 18, 2008 04:11PM
To: Carmichael
I am in the same exact position as you, just came home today from a hard day at work and am having some spotting too.  I am also scared but know that it can just be nothing.  I actually work in the ER as a PA and know that I see patients all the time with this symptom and my medical mind knows that it usually is okay.  It is just a little different when it happens to you!  I think it is probably nothing as long as it stays as just light spotting.  If you are using the progesterone suppositories I have heard that those can sometimes cause some spotting as well.  I know of a lot of people who have spotting in early pregnancy and go on to have completely normal pregnancies.  Just try to take it easy today.  

Tomorrow is my Beta, I am excited.  :)

Good luck Fourtimeslucky!

by carmicheal1, May 18, 2008 05:05PM
To: Rose73005
Hey Rose73005,

How ironic, when you told me you were a PA! I know exactly how you feel! I am a nurse so you automatically think anything and everything! I really try not to do that but it is soooo hard. I took it very easy all weekend and so far I haven't had anymore spotting since Friday. It was only very minimal but of course it freaked me out! I will be 8 weeks tomorrow so it is just impossible not to think of all the things that could happen. I am sure we would be better off not working in the medical field in this instance!

I am so excited for you and can't wait until your beta! The wait is just torture isn't it?  I will look forward to hearing from you soon!!

Thanks for easing my mind! You are right, when it happens to you it is such a different story!
Carmicheal

by Danielle501, May 18, 2008 06:52PM
To: All
Hi all - I'm new to this site and can't tell you how much better I feel after reading your posts.   My husband and I have been TTC for 3 years.   After I had a lap to remove endometriosis scar tissue, we did an IUI and then my appendix ruptured a week later.   It caused a lot of damage and ruined all of the progress we'd made with lap, etc.   I did another IUI post appendectomy and it failed.   Had another lap last August to fix the damage.  Tried on our own for 3 months to no avail.  Started IVF in Dec.  1st one was cancelled right before retrieval.  Did IUI instead which failed.   2nd IVF cycle resulted in 5 3-day embryos.  We transferred 2 but that cycle failed.   I'm now in the middle of the horrible 2ww for attempt #3.   We implanted the 3 remaining frozen embryos - 2 good, 1 not so great.    I've been on baby aspirin and pre-natals all along but on Estrace 3 x day and progesterone in oil shots this cycle.   I've had some cramping and LOTS of back pain since 7dpt, the back pain has been pretty intense yesterday and today.   Yesterday I had a small amount of the brownish stuff and was totally freaked that this cycle too had failed.   The back pain and cramping is pretty typical of my PMS symptoms.  In fact, I cried and told my husband I wasn't pg becasue I thought I was starting my period but I haven't had any more of that.   I feel SOOO much better after reading so many posts from people who have had similar symptoms.   My beta test is Wed so I'm just trying to stay positive and hope that the next 3 days goes very quickly.  Thank you all for listening and for those of you that are testing this week, GOOD LUCK!!!   You will all be in my thoughts!

by Lori123342, May 19, 2008 07:58AM
To: All
Hi All -

It is comforting to read everyone' s posts.  I am new to this site.  I had 3 good quality embryos transfered on Friday - it's my first cycle.  I had some cramping post-procedure.  Although, today my cramps are a bit different, almost menstrual-like.  Has anyone experienced this?  I'm just so nervous and trying not to obsess; although, this is the hardest part!  I would take the injections over this terrible waiting period any day.

by mm806, May 19, 2008 11:54AM
To: All
I have good news!  My blood test result just came back, I'm BFP :)  my HCG is 603, which the nurse said its pretty high.  would there be a chance that I have twins or more?  Rose and fourtimeslucky, you both have your blood test today or yesterday, right?  how did it go?  I hope you both have good news like me.  good luck and don't give up.  baby wishes for everyone.

by SMA827, May 19, 2008 12:26PM
To: mm806
Congratulations, That is so wonderful.  I was told that my numbers were high too and I am so praying that they both took, we put in two Grade 1 A on April 30th.  Now I am in the 2ww for the sonogram, which is almost as hard as the first 2ww.  At least now we know we are pregnant. My sono is on the 28th?  Have they told you yet when yours will be? And are they going to check your blood in 2 days to see if it is doubling?  It is a shock isn't it, to realize that you are pregnant.  I am still in shock I think. Just praying that everything from here goes good. Take care and celebrate with some sparkling cider!!!  Shannon

by SMA827, May 19, 2008 01:06PM
To: Lori123342
Hello,  It was my 1st cycle as well.  And I am pregnant, it can happen.  As for the cramping.  Trust me I thought for sure I was going to start my period, but I didn't.  The  next 2ww are torture, but well worth it, when it works.  All I can say is try to find something to try and take your mind off it, not an easy thing to do.  I was so happy when I too found this site and by the way their is another one just like this, everyone has and is going through the same thing. I found myself reading them both all the time. For me it really helps. Shannon

by SMA827, May 19, 2008 01:16PM
To: Danielle501
Hello and welcome, It sounds like you, just like alot of us have been through so much.  From my readings the brownish discharge could be a good thing!  Wednesday is not that far away now. Just try and stay positive, I know it is tough!  I said several times to my husband that I did not feel pregnant, and turns out I am. My DH can sympathize with yours, I put him through it all as well.  I was even very moody, so I thought I knew what was about to happen, but wow was I wrong!  If reading all these post helps then do it, basically just find something, anything to help the time pass.  Take care and let us know how the Beta goes. Take Care of yourself,  Shannon

by rose73005, May 19, 2008 01:45PM
To: all
    Hello everyone, I got my results and my HCG is 745!  I seriously starting shaking when the nurse told me this.  I had 2 5day embryos transferred on the 9th.  From what I have read this is pretty high as is 600 mm806!  
    I have also had a lot of cramping pretty much on a daily basis and also had some spotting yesterday which has stopped.  My doctor says as long as the spotting is just brown and a light amount it isn't anything to worry about especially if you are on vaginal Progesterone.  Has anyone had a Beta this high on their first test?  



Good luck to all:)


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