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Alex
The test was negative y'day. I was shattered to hear this from my nurse...can't image what might've gone wrong. My infertility is unexplained - I'm 34, mine and hubby's stats are all normal, DR said the embryos were perfect and I had 60-70% chance...none of these worked. The doc's office says they give a month's gap between cycles, so I guessI will start my FET in Dec. I will know more when I meet with my DR (can't get an appointment either until next month!)
Good luck today and hope and pray God is working with you. Awaiting your update...
Andrea--It was nice to hear from you, I hope you are feeling better. I'm not sure what is next for me. I am truly heart broken right now. Keep in touch. Can't you go to the top of page and click on View Comments, Its above the first post on here....or at the bottom of this page where it says Back to Forum right above that, click on one of the others like 201-400. Good Luck.
Alex----you know I can't really say anything right now. Thanks for all of your support. Keep in touch. Linda..(a bunch of tears in this household)
ababyhopes----Hi, I am really sorry for your negative. I know exactly how you are feeling right now. My doctor waits a period too before starting another cycle, but if I do it again I will have to do a fresh cycle. I wonder if I can start this month???? I have to call them when I get my period. For the love of god, please let it come today. There is nothing worse than a 2ww gone bad and then having to wait for your period....Good Luck to you and again I am sorry. Maybe we will go through the next cycle together...Linda
Alex
Remember I told you guys my little sister was pregnant? She lost her baby two days ago. I was so devastated, I honestly did not know what to say to her. She was almost 10 weeks, everything was fine, she had at least 2 ultrasounds before this one and everything was great. The doctor just told her that there was no heartbeat and she said she saw her baby just laying still on the ultra sound. I feel so bad for her. So Sad. She is only 29.
If you guys have any suggestions for me, let me know so I can ask my doctor. Hopefully I have a lot of embryo's to freeze this time. No scratch that I hope I get pregnant this time...........Talk to you guys later, Linda
I did take a prenatal vitamin. I wasn't told to but when I past it in the grocery store the bottle said for "Mothers-to-be" as well as pregnant mothers. It did not bother my body until I actually was pregnant. Take what you can get I guess...
Sorry to hear about your sister's little one..I wish the docotors could have explainations for everyone. Somethings aren't meant to happen- such as losing a child.
You are fast...I always had to wait one month inbetween fresh cycles...I think frozen transfers cost money but you guys do theings WAY differently in the "other" states. We have to pay for everything in NH. I paid $18,000 for these babies...that's a new car!
I scheduled my apt NOV 21 to find out the babies' sex. I am totally excited
Take it easy..congrats for boucning back so fast..nice to hear from you!
Alex
Good to hear that you started another cycle. Your doctor is fast! Have faith in God, it will definitely work for you. With our insurance, the FET will be considered as part of fertility treatment and will be applied to our lifetime maximum (our insurance gives us 15k). Each insurance is different and some also cover 100% of the costs. We pay 10% of the costs.
I have to wait one month between cycles and haven't had a follow-up with my doctor yet. Their embryology lab also closes for a month during the holidays. So in all likelihood, my FET will be in Jan I guess. My FL after the failed IVF was very painful (very severe cramps but not much flow...very strange).
I was advised to take prenatal vitamins from the time I have been trying to conceive (though I tend to skip it once a while). Maybe you already know this but it also helps to eat nutritious and healthy food and avoid exercise and heavy activity during your cycle. More important, don't stress during this period and be positive. I will pray for you.
Good luck
HI Alex.....November 21'st huh.....Can't wait myself....Talk to you later.
Let me know how that goes...
Look like we'll both be looking forward to Thanksgiving for one reason or another...
Good luck.
Devistated= Hi, glad things are getting moving for you again. That's fast!! I also started prenatal as soon as we started trying(3 months prior) I also was told to drink alot of water, I think I was drinking 2 liters a day. (it also helped for retrieval because you're able to hold more urine without exploding) I also tried to eat really healthy. I guess you can drive yourself crazy with all these things!! I had an ultrasound yesterday and found out I am having identical twin BOYS!! We were thrilled! Also that they will only allow me to go to 8 months or 36 week and I will have a c-section. I have had so many prior abdominal surgeries that are taking precautions so my uterus won't rupture. It was really exciting to see the babies they are really growing!! I am still really sick, only gained 1 pound in the last month. Throwing up everyday and severe lower back pain at times. They aren't worried about the throwing up and they said the back pain is from alot of internal adhesions that I have. It will all be worth it in the end!!! Hope you are staying strong and keep me posted!!! Take care! Andrea
Willcometrue= how are you feeling? Do you still take a flinstones chewable vitamin? I bought some yesterday because everytime I take the Rx ones I get sick. What kind are they? Are you showing now? Do you have energy? Hope things are well. Do you know sexes yet? Keep me posted!1 Andrea
I will know the babies sexes on the 21st of November so it will be a great Thanksgiving surprise. I will be 18 or 19 weeks by then...I hope Nov goes by fast. I REALLY want to know...!
See you chicas later.
Alex
Willcometrue- It was really exciting for me to hear they were boys, I started crying. Are they doing ultrasounds regularly on you? Mine are going to be bi-weekly until I hit 28 weeks. They need to keep an eye on my fluid because they share a placenta. Do you feel the babies move yet? How much weight have you gained? Do you have any back pain? I feel like my body is falling apart on me!!! It will be worth it in the end though. Keep me posted. Andrea!
I can recommend that you get some "belly bands" to prolong the need to buy maternity clothes. I wear my regualr pants without the buttons button and place the band around my pants. It look like I have an undershirt on. They are worth every penny $16-$20.
21 more days....
Do you feel them moving? How much weight have you gained?
Flinstones work way better than the prenatals and they taste better. I jsut bought the biggest bottle I could find!!!
Alex
BLESSINGS TO ALL MY FELLOW STRUGGLERS....I keep praying for all of us!!
I was reading "Belly Laughs" by Jenny McCarthy (Best BOOK ever) and she had a rib pop out from her pregnancy. I have a small frame so I can only imagine what potentially could happen with two babies. She only had one!
So, I am wondering if I can get chiropractor visits covered...what does and why does acupunture seem so great????
You ladies should read that book however, It is crude...heads up!
Alex
MrsRobinson789---Congrats on your pregnancy, I love hearing positive results, it gives me more hope....I was also glad that you are a fellow acupuncturist. I am in love with it, I don't care how much it cost, I'll probably do it forever. Seriously, I don't have to tell you how relaxed it makes you. I was amazed. I am gonna do it 3xs a week until my transfer. I am doing a fresh transfer this time. I did frozen in September. I thought that cycle was one of the best I had. I really believed I was pregnant. Up until the NEGATIVE blood test. I wish I knew about acupuncture before. I wonder why my RE didn't recommend one before this???? HUH, I think I read somewhere that it usually is recommended after a third failed attempt.....Did you stress during your 2WW while doing acupuncture or did it calm you......I absolutely FREAK out during my 2ww. I am such a basket case when I go through them. I hope not to this time. Thanks for the advice and again CONGRATULATIONS........Linda
Ohh...let me tell you....I totally thought for a moment that I was preggo after my 1st IVF in August. I wasn't. The 2WW almost killed me (well, not really), but I was so full of anxiety. This time, with the acupuncture, I felt so much more relaxed. I only felt stressed the day of the blood test which was actually 12 days post FET. My sister, who lives in Oregon (I am in NY) is an acupuncturist who works with fertility patients. She told me that I must go to acupuncture after my 1st failed IVF. So, my opinion....GO AS SOON AS YOU CAN!! LOL
Today was stressful...some spotting...but I went to RE and he did a sonogram....one happy sac chillin' on the uterine wall....attached nice and tight. Now praying for it to become a little person. Waiting for the next beta to come back. Phew...between this and the election, I am going crazy. But...I went to acupuncture tonight and he relieved my cramping and gave me some herbs to hold the pregnancy. He is the nicest man!
So, I wish you all well forever and always...
Alex----Hi, I asked my acupuncturist if you can go when you are already pregnant and he said absolutely. He said women go for a less stressful pregnancy. Check it out. Only about 2 more weeks for the sex of your little ones......Yea. Think about it you have to do another 2ww to find something out.....LOL. Hope all is well, Talk with you later.
Andrea----What's up? I hope you are feeling better by now. Drop us a line.
Acupuncturist also did Maksa (sp?)....he places herb sticks next to a needle (in this case, in my bog toe) and set the little stick on fire. It feels like tingling, then heat, then calm. It was a little painful but only for short periods of time.
I am happy you are doing well...Keep on rockin!!
Mrs.Robinson...the tiredness gets worst. I think I loathed the tiredness more than the sickeness...I was only awake for 8-9 hours a day at one point. Good luck. Jsut ride with it becuase there is no fighting it. Sleep always wins :-)
Andrea...? Where did ya' go?????
Linda. I am going to look into a chiropractor...I've always wanted a reason to see one and now I have one. I also learned that they are covered under my insurance so I am going to hook myself up as soon as I get the time.
I am trying to finish up these two courses, 2 jobs, and take care of my usual duties...
I am going to Nantucket this weekend til Tuesday so I hope I can relax there...still have to bring work with me because I am cursed...
How are the drugs going by the way? Is your skin clearing up? Are you hormonal?
Welcome to the club!!!!
I've turned into an alligator. My skin is SO dry!
Alex
I am feeling lots of cramps (on and off) for the past 3 days. I usually do not get cramps when I am getting my period. I just get my period and then I get cramps. I am also getting a headache and I feel bloaded. My beta will be this friday but I can't wait. I am soooo anxious!!!
This process can kill your spirit. Eight years ago I tried IVF and both times it failed. I was scared, hurt and couldn't deal with deception. I couldn't deal with the doctor's office call after the 2ww "unfortunatly it did not work, but next time it will".
A year ago I realized that I was willing to go through anything to make it happen. I did not know how important a baby was to me until it took me so long to conceived. Every month the negative results were consuming my heart. Thank God for my dear husband. Without his patience and love I don't think I can go on. My third IVF I got pregant, however I lost them at 14 weeks. The pain my heart had was not compare to anything I ever felt. I discharged the babies at home (a week apart each - one baby died first then the following week the other's baby's heart stopped). I catched both of my babies in the palm of my hand -- because when I felt something was coming out I catched the abortion (I knew exactly what it was - the baby was coming out). They were so little, but they were formed. The physical pain is not even close to your deception of losing a pregnancy you loved, waited and wanted so much. I had to suffer twice because the babies died a week apart. When I lost the first one, I had hope that the second one was going to make it, but I was wrong.
I am now in my 2ww again with my 4th IVF!!! I pray every night that this time works. However I am mentally prepare this time. I know that the positive result is just the begining. The hardest part is making it for the next 8 months!!! The doctor's office call telling you the negative or positive result is not the hardest or easier part for me anymore. My advise to you all is that we all need to be prepare and we need to extra extra extra take care of ourselves for the months to come after a positive result!!!
Daisy~
The website has many stories about how the 2ww after IVF / IU was for many ladies. I found it interesting since the women that wrote their stories wrote them after the fact and provides details of their symptoms and of course the results (positive or negatives). I visited the website and I was able to assimilate with some stories.
I received the doctor's call after 9 Days Post-Transfer (which i personally think is too early to test based on my past IVF cycles). My doctor said it was ok to do Beta after 9dtp since I had my transfer on day 5. However my HCG level result is 10.5 which means a very low pregancy :-( My progestrone levels were ok -- 27 The doctor did not want to confirm the pregnancy and I will be testing again on Monday (12dpt) to see if the HCG level increases. He also mentioned that it could be that I had a late implantation.
I am soooo nervous and I want to keep my positive thinking but I am also cramping and discharging brown blood and I also discharged a small clot. Anyone of you had or are having similar issues? I will appreciate if we can compare notes...
I am waiting...my blood test is Monday. I have been having cramps since the 9th day of tranfer up to today. The cramps started very low level back then, but as I get closer to when I suppose to get my period (next Tuesday); the more intense they get. I have not spotted what-so-ever. I did call the nurse and she said that is OK as long as I do not bleed.
I am going crazy here. Has anyone had cramps...everyday and still tested possitive?
My third IVF (last may '08) I got pregnant with twins (lost them at 14 wks) I had cramping and bleeding on and off during the whole 14 weeks.
I had my 3rd and 4th IVF cycles with different doctors and they both mentioned that bleeding and cramping is very common after IVF transfers (about 50% IVFers bleed). Both REs told me that embryo implantation can cause bleeding)
LicLuluc, If your cramping is too much, call your RE -- but as long is no heavy bleeding, I believe you are experiences normal IVF symptoms (based on my past experiences and what my two RE told me).
Please ladies, let's hold hands during these 2ww. I can't do it by myself -- I feel beat up after 4 IVFs and no children. My hubby is here with me and he is very good to me, but only us women going thru IVF can comfort, answer and compare eachother cycles for these two weeks. Good luck to all.
Good luck to all,
Daisy
Daisy, Sorry for the low number. I also tested 9 days past a 5 day transfer. I guess it's normal. I had three prior IVF's and on all three I had cramps anywhere from day 3,4 and 5,6. They never went away and then I got my period. Ya know how I knew I wasn't pregnant????? I saw blood on the progesterone insert stick, then sure enough I got my period within a day or so. However the last IVF I did was frozen and I did not see any blood on the insert sticks, so I thought for sure I was pregnant by the time my blood test came. NOT.... This is the worst part of the process. You just never know and what a mind F%$#. Hang in there....Monday is almost here and be strong, think high numbers....
Liclulu---Hang in there Monday is a big day for a lot of us...Cramps are very normal, I'm confused. Is your period due this Tuesday 18th or next week??? Did you do IVF, did you do a 3 or 5 day transfer and how many. Sorry for being nosy, not that it matters, just curious. Keep us posted and stay strong. No blood is a very good sign. I was pregnant twice before and the (both ended early, Tubal) second time I swore I was getting my period, I mean I swore, I had the worst cramps and I was so miserable and cranky and I could have killed someone and few days later I found out I had a positive result..so my point is, you never know but it is almost over for you, two more days....Good Luck.
Good luck with your "retrieval" on Monday morning. (17-Nov) I am glad you are responding very well this cycle. I had 17 follies this last cycle and 9 made it... I transfered 3 Nov4th and I have 6 frozen. 13 follies are a good number, you will be able to obtain beautiful embryos from that retrieval.
My first IVF and 2nd IVF - BFN I got over stimulated and I was in bed the last 5 days before the retrieval. The 3rd IVF - pregnant with twins (lost them at 14 weeks) I got sick too before the retrieval. I have a new RE for my 4th retrieval and he was very careful not to over stimulate my ovaries since my history of over stimulation. Good luck on Monday!!! I will keep you in my prayers.
Light bleeding or Spotting
Spotting is light bleeding from the vagina similar to, but much lighter than, a period. It varies in colour from red to brown. While this is not exactly normal, light bleeding or spotting during pregnancy, particularly during the first three months is fairly common. Some spotting in early pregnancy can be quite normal and does not pose a threat. However, because bleeding is the most common warning sign of impending miscarriage, any sign of spotting or bleeding should be reported to your healthcare provider immediately.
The type of spotting or bleeding during the first trimester of most concern is fresh blood, or bright red especially if this is accompanied by cramping. While this type of spotting or bleeding can be serious, it is not always mean a miscarriage is occuring. Your caregiver will most likely give you an ultrasound to try to determine the cause and see if a miscarriage is likely.
The presence of an embryonic heartbeat is highly reassuring. When visualized by sonography, more than 90% of pregnancies continue. The rate of pregnancy loss with positive heartbeat varies with gestational age and the presence of vaginal bleeding:
Heartbeat at < 6 week., With bleeding 33% are lost, 16% are lost if no bleeding present
Heartbeat at 7-9 week., With bleeding 10% are lost, 5% are lost without bleeding present
Heartbeat at 9-11 week., With bleeding 4 % are lost, 1-2% are lost without bleeding present.
The prognosis for the living embryo improves as gestation proceeds.
WOW your just did your trigger shot a few minutes ago. You must be so excited your first two weeks of medicine is almost over.... then your 2ww. I feel like we (IVFers) live our lives in a two week pacing!!! LOL Go to bed, sleep, relax!!!
My last IVF (twins 14 weeks) end up in a miscarriage. The doctors do not know why. The heart just stop beating for the first baby, then I discharged the baby. I was hoping the 2nd twin was ok but the doctor told me that he assumed the twins were sharing a blood veseel and when the first one came out it kill the other one (about 3 days later) by pulling the blood vessel. I was already going to my regular OB/GYN when this happened.
I tried to be strong and your words "you can do this" right now are giving me hope to think positive. I keep praying for all of us.
Good to see everyone is doing fine.
Linda - how did the retrieval go? You must be a lot better after the procedure and how many embies did you make? So is your transfer one week after?
I had my FET yesterday (preg test on 11/25, keeping fingers crossed) and my Dr worked with my natural cycle this time around. Not sure if anyone here had gone thru a natural cycle IVF, but its a lot better and lighter on you. No medications/shots to take, except for antibiotics and medrol and of course, progesterone. I'm taking progesterone pills vaginally and I luv them. Its very easy to take them, though I was a little scared initially and they don't leave any symptoms behind. So no breast tenderness, cramps, etc. So they transferred 2 embies this time around and the Dr said they looked good. My nurse told me that she knows people for whom the FET worked wonders compared to a fresh cycle. I'm just staying positive and trying not to think too much about it.
Good luck
I had my Retrieval this morning and they retrieved 10 eggs. I am feeling very crampy and bloated (pressure) right now and I'm trying to sleep as much as I can. I will have a transfer on Thursday or Saturday this week. Then we can share the 2ww together.
Daisy----How are you? Did you get your numbers today?
I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A SITE LIKE THIS!!!
I am new to this site!! I have had 7 IUI's, and currently on my third IVF. The first IVF IN 2005 was negative, I was shocked, doctors and all thought for sure it would work. But it just wasnt in our plans yet. I had 4 eggs to freeze. So 6 mos later we were at it again and I have a healthy 2 and 1/2 year old little girl. So with 2 frozen embs waiting; 3 years later I was ready to out myself through the AGONY again. I figured I have my daughter, 2 would be a bonus. I don't think I'm being greedy.
Same as you Daisy...transfer was Nov 4th. I had spotting and cramping from 7dpt til abut 10dpt. Of course you know i couldn't hold out took 3 hpt...all have been positive. Blood work is tomorrow. I am DYING!
The word “biochemical pregnancy” is a terrible term. It’s very cold and scientific and inhumane. I try not to use it, I just say it’s a very early loss. :-(
I made an appt for next thrus with my doctor. I have 6 frozen embryos.
Linda, thank you for reading and answering my posts. You have been great during my 2ww. I am here for you too!!! I am just so sad and I feel like God has forgotten about me.
Elaina, WOW you will know tomorrow, you 2ww is almost over. I will be praying here for you!!! Just one advise from a veterant IVFer (no children), wait for your doctor's results, don't go by your home hpt. I did 3 pregnancy tests and they were positive, but my doctor's results came back as a bio-chemical pregnancy BFN!!! I am not saying my situation is the same for you, but the pain I have in my heart right now is unbearable and I wish I had listened to Linda's (devistated) advise about the home hpt. She told me not to do it, but I am hook at those things, and I went and bought a whole bunch of them. Today, after the doctor's call, all my happiness (positive home HPT) have turned into tears!!! I will keep you in my prayers!!
When is your transfer?
Chemical pregnancy - the cruel mirage
What is a chemical ( or biochemical) pregnancy ? How is it different from a clinical or regular pregnancy ? How can you be a "little bit" pregnant ?
A chemical pregnancy occurs when an embryo does not implant properly. The embryo produces enough HCG ( human chorionic gonadotropin, the molecule which is unique to pregnancy) so that it can be detected on the beta HCG blood test and the sensitive uterine pregnancy home tests ( hence its name, because it can be detected using chemical tests) , but because it does not develop normally, the HCG levels decline. No pregnancy sac can be seen on ultrasound scanning. It is a very early miscarriage, and is a type of non-viable pregnancy. It needs to be differentiated from a clinical pregnancy ( when a scan can be seen on ultrasound scanning; and an ectopic pregnancy). A chemical pregnancy leaves the couple to cope with the difficult news of thinking they are pregnant when in reality they are miscarrying.
Signs and Symptoms of a Chemical Pregnancy
Most women have no symptoms at all. There may be mild abdominal cramping as well as mild spotting just prior to what most women think is their normal menstrual cycle. The menstrual cycle usually begins on time or a few days late. Nature is not efficient at making babies, and modern research shows that the vast majority of fertile women who have a chemical pregnancy never even knew they were pregnant before they begin what they think is their normal menstrual cycle.
Causes of a Chemical Pregnancy
The commonest cause is a genetic abnormality in the embryo, and nature prevents this abnormal embryo from developing any further. Genetic abnormalities can be because of multiple factors, but most of them are random and unpredictable.
Treatment of a Chemical Pregnancy
No specific treatment that is required for a chemical pregnancy. The most important follow-up test is to ensure that the hCG levels decline to zero ( non-detectable levels ) after a chemical pregnancy ( in order to differentiate it from an ectopic pregnancy). There is no impact on future pregnancies and the prognosis for future fertility remains good.
The most difficult aspect of a chemical pregnancy is the false hope that it creates - you get excited that you are finally pregnant - and then you have to deal with the crushing disappintment of having to cope with a miscarriage. For many couples, this can be the last straw which breaks the camel's back. They often find it easier to deal with a negative HCG result ; rather than a result which starts of offering hope by being positive, and then declines.
The commonest question patients ask after a chemical pregnancy is - Why did this happen ? Did I do something to harm the embryo ? Does this mean I am never destined to have a baby ? Does this mean my uterus is defective and is rejecting the baby ? None of this is true ! The fact that the HCG was positive means that the embryo implantation process did start, and this means that the prognosis for a healthy pregnancy in the future is actually better than for someone with a negative HCG !
You should wait for at least one regular menstrual cycle before trying to conceive again after a chemical pregnancy.
Alex----two more days right? Do you find out on the 21st? You have to write me and tell me what you are having. Do you have any guesses? I'm excited for you.
Daisy--Good article, I'm glad you are not giving up. You sound like me, no matter how hurtful it is month after month, you keep going back for more. Did you get your regular period yet? Will you start a frozen cycle right away? I just realized you don't see your doctor until Thursday, so I'll have to wait for my answers......Stay strong.
I got my regular period monday. I am planning on starting my frozen transfer as soon as I can, but I will know more on Thursday after I speak to my doctor.
Daisy-
I am so sorry about your news:( That is devasting! I've never heard of a chemical pregnancy. But it makes sense I guess. Hopeful that you have 6 frozen embies. I had better luck with the frozen myself. I did have my bloodwork confirmed yesterday...levels were 1600 so I am going in for ultrasound tomorrow morning. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Thanks for your for your well wishes.
Good luck and God Bless....pray to St. Gerard (patron saint of motherhood and pregnancy) if you like.
~Jennifer
Had my sono today...one embryo looks great right where it should be, they see a second, but much smaller right now. So we are going back next week to have another look. Yes this was a frozen cycle. 2 were put in. Initalliy in 2005 my fresh transfer did not take, luckily I had 4 to freeze, so 2 were implanted later in 2005..and I have a healthy 2 1/2 yr old. This time we will see. i will be happy with one healthy baby that's for sure. I will keep you posted. Good luck and lots of prayers to everyone!!
Daisy- Did they ever give you a reason for your mis with the twins? Seems so late for that to happen..makes me even more nervous!!
Alex, Andrea and Daisy---Hi, I went today and they put back 3. A 5,6,and 7. The RE said they are all 5 with 5 being the best. None have fragmentation. (That's good) I had trouble with the full bladder, it was plenty full for the transfer, but I had acupuncture right before and he had to pull the needles out 11 minutes into it, cause I had to go so bad. I thought I ruined everything. But when I was done he put the needles back in for 10 more minutes. I cried so hard. I got up at 5 am and showered and emptied my bladder then I started to drink water, I drank 5 9oz bottles until 7am. I let a little out before I left to the doctors and when I got outside it was cold so I had to pee right away again. I went when I got to the doctors office (a little) and again mid way through acupuncture. I swear, it is the hardest part of the whole process. (for me anyway) But all went well with the transfer, perfect one try. Sadly I did not have any to freeze, so out of 10 I only had 3 good embies. I was looking forward to freezing. I am trying to stay positive thinking why? I won't need to do this again......Why so bummed cause I can't freeze any. I guess I just wanted the back up. Sorry for babbling. You all know what a 2ww can do to a girl. I will test the Monday after Thanksgiving, December 1st. This is me staying positive....Talk to you soon. Linda