how long before miscarriage occurs if i have blighted ovum

[snagglepuss1]

Hi

I posted yesterday as I went for a first scan, I am 7 weeks today according to my lmp, the lady scanning us saw & pointed out the yolk sac, and said the pregnancy looked fine for how far along I should be.  We were then taken into a room by another lady who told us the reason the baby could not be seen could be for 2 reasons. 1 being the baby is too small, the second and in her words "the most likely" blighted ovum as the sac is 21mm and the baby should be seen by this point.
I feel really frightened now that at our next scan in 6 days they arent gonna see any improvement & suggest & d&c. If this pregnancy is blighted ovum, how soon would I expect to miscarry?
I have had no bleeding & still have all my symptoms.  Would it be quite quick or take a while?  I had blighted ovum with my second pregnancy, but had a d&c, wish I had waited and let it occur naturally now, as I have doubts about the competency of the consultane that gave us the bad news after the scan.

[Kassimom]

I am so sorry you are going through this worry. As long as you are having symptoms then I woudln't worry too much about it.

With my first m/c I had no symptoms to begin with and so had no reason to suspect I would find myself awakened one morning by the actual m/c occurring. So I have no idea how long the preg wasn't viable. I was 6 wks when it passed.

With my second m/c I knew something was dreadfully wrong one night when I went to undress and my brests were no longer sore. I just knew I had lost my baby. But even then it took me several days to miscarry naturally. I was 6 wks when I lost symptoms and 8 wks when it finally passed.

Again, as longa s you have symptoms, then don't worry. I think it's awful that that woman told you that you "most likely" have a blighted ovum rather than saying "it might be a possiblity, but let's wait and see".

[snagglepuss1]

Thanks for your speedy response, this is my fourth pregnancy, the other 3 failed, but I can't remember if I lost my symptoms with the second pregnancy that was blighted ovum or not, I remember I did with the miscarriage, like you said I lost my sore boobs but didnt really think anything of it until I started bleeding.
I just want to wave a magic wand and have a healthy baby here.
Are you pg at the moment?  If so how far are you?

[Kassimom]

Yes I am 17 wks. And I knwo what you mean about the magic wand. How I prayed and hoped for that with my last m/c. To just reverse it. Although, someon shared a story on here once about spirit babies. Something about how babies are with us all the time and when we lose one, it gets to be first in line to be born. I know I butchered the story but that was the gist. I will be praying hard for you that this is YOUR time to get your "spirit baby".

[snagglepuss1]

I never heard that before, so basically the first baby we lost's spirit should be that of our first baby that lives?
17 weeks seems ages off to me, so you will be due around christmas time?

[Kassimom]

I am due ON Nov 26 but the OB wants to do a c-section two weeks before my due date! We shall see!

I know it seems like a long wait, but trust me. It passes befroe you know it!

[kck]

I could be wrong, but it is my understanding that with a blighted ovum you will see nothing, not even a yolk sac.  I was told by my doctor, that there are 3 stages to see in early ultrasounds....1st a sac, then a yolk sac inside the sac, then the actual baby.  I was also told that once a fetus dies, you will most likely lose symptoms of pregnancy.  Keep a positive mind about it until you have a good reason not to.  Don't let yourself worry too much, because if the pregnancy is still a healthy one, the stress could cause you to miscarry anyway.  You should definitely wait until your next scan and see how that goes.  If they have already seen a yolk sac, then by next week they should see a baby.  Good luck!

[Niki73]

I too didn't have any pregnancy symtoms with my three miscarriages...with my fourth pregnancy I was sick, tired and had sore boobs and I delievered a healthy baby with that pregnancy. So I think it's a good sign that you have symptons...I'm sorry but what is a blighted ovum? So when you had your u/s you were 7 weeks and saw a yolk sac but no fetal pole or heart beat? If you ovulate late and not when most people do then maybe you aren't 6 weeks yet sometimes I think doctors forget that not everyone ovulates at 13-15 days....Wait it out and see what happens I do think the pregnancy symptons are a good sign. All of my miscarriages were between 6 -8 weeks...I may not have started cramping until 10 weeks with 2 of them but when we did the u/s they said it was the size of about 6 weeks so that was when the problems occurred. I will be thinking of you. I've been there...have they done any testing for you yet? With my fourth pregnancy they gave me progesterone and it seemed to have worked and this pregnancy I am getting the same shots....

[Christina S.]

I was told the same thing as you. A blighted ovum does not contain a yolk sac, it will be completley empty.

[babygirl22]

I had a d&c after an ultrasound report indicated fetal demise - I was about 14 weeks.  I know that where I live you have to push for a d&c, or wait.  One of the girls I work with had a similar case, fetal demise on the ultrasound, and didn't actually miscarry for SIX weeks.  I couldn't bare it, and went to an abortion clinic three days after finding out my baby had passed - and by the time I had the d&c it had disintigrated.  Do you have a family doctor who would receive the ultrasound report and be able to tell you more?

[snagglepuss1]

Hi

thank you all so much for your responses, it has really helped put my mind at ease, I think there is something going on inside me as I've been throwing up since the scan on Monday, maybe someone is trying to say "I am here"
My doctor would be totally useless at trying to decipher reports from the hospital, he is very dithery for a doctor I think and I don't have much faith in him.
I also read that a blighted ovum would not contain a yolk sac, it is basically just a pregnancy sac with nothing in it right?
I am going to remain positive until next Monday and will let you know how it goes.

Once again thanks very much for all your kind words
Claire

[snagglepuss1]

the hospital have done basic tests which showed my body never rejected any of the pregnancies, it was literally a problem with pregnancy itself, the problem is my dh and I cannot have extensive tests unless we miscarry this pregnancy, as the first one was not a miscarriage. I delivered our baby at 16 weeks, it had a birth defect, so I have basically only had 2 miscarriages and am not seen as at risk yet.
I am praying that it doesn't get to the next stage though.

[snagglepuss1]

I am however taking progesterone suppositories twice a day, will they do the same thing as the shots? I think it has helped put my mind at ease some, I am taking baby aspirin too and folic acid in 5mg to rule out another birth defect pregnancy.

[lovinmom]

Claire,

I was curious what web-site you found about a yolk sac seen on a u/s not being a blighted ovum?  I have been doing research on this myself and also found the same thing on another post response from a OB/GYN.  I would like to find out more documentation on that.  Like one of the other gals that posted, I too wish I hadn't had a D&C.  I think there is a good chance that I could have had a viable pregnancy.  I have read on another post cases of women such as yours who had a yolk sac but no fetus showing, who ended up having their babies.  So, there is hope!  I wish doctors wouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly and freak mother's out when they are at the peak of their emotions.  It seems like they are so quick to doom a pregnancy.  I think it is horrible.  This web-site has some encouraging cases: http://bbs.babycenter.com/board/pregnancy/prenatalhealth/1311584/thread/575970?i=0#go  

Also, Misty's case which is just like yours:  http://www.babycenter.com/comments/pregnancy/pregcomplications/1355753

Let us know how it goes.  I'm sorry that you are going through all this torment.  Has your doctor taken a hcg test?  That is also very important and crucial.  If he hasn't, kindly demand one.  Take Care!

[Niki73]

I am so sorry I didn't realize you had a baby at 16 weeks along with your miscarriages. I really do hope everything works out this time. Yes I think the shot is the same thing and the first time we tried it with me I finally was able to substain a pregnancy! They are doing the same thing with me right now. I know exactly what you mean about easing your mind...the minute I found out I was pregnant this time I couldn't get to the doctor's office fast enough to start the shots!It just makes me feel better knowing they are doing something to help the pregnancy!They made me wait for three miscariages also before testing...I think they ran a few test after two of them but they were heisitant I really had to push. One was the chromosome testing on both my husband and I. When that came back normal he tried one other test and then said try again....Then I miscarried again and he ran more test and then tried the progesterone!!!! Please let me know what happens at your next appointment.

[clevelandlady]

I too have read this week about a yolk sac not being a blighted ovum.The presence of the yolk sac means a baby was developing,so its not a true blighted ovum,but intrauteriun fetal demise.I'm so sorry your going through this,i am also.The not knowing is the hardest part.I find out tommorow if i am indeed still pregnant,or if my baby has passed and my body absorbed it.That thought just gives me shivers.God bless,and my thoughts are w/ you.

[Niki73]

One more thing I think it's a good sign you have been sick since the last ultra sound...why would your symptoms being getting stronger if you were going to miscarry???? Tty to stay positive when you go back you just might see your babies heart beat!!!They didn't do any blood work to check your HCG level to see if it was rising or dripping???

[lovinmom]

I was curious what web-site you read about the yolk seen on ultrasound not really a blighted ovum?  Thanks so much.  It really helps with my research.  I am still praying for your situation and the others.

[snagglepuss1]

Hi

I have the day off work today as I couldn't keep anything down last night, not even water, and feel like i weigh about 3 stone.
All I can think is if this is blighted ovum, like one of you ladies said, why are my symptoms getting stronger?
Niki I did not think to ask for the blood tests to see if they are rising, but isn't that what causes morning sickness, because of the rapidly doubling numbers?  Either way next monday I think if the hospital don't see to much on the scan I will demand that I get the bloods done, I didn't get far enough with the last pregnancy to have the second set done as I had miscarried by that time.
Lovin mum, I went on to Yahoo & typed in blighted ovum and basically looked at lots of websites, one of them said about the yolk sac means a pregnancy cannot be blighted ovum.  I'm sorry but I can't remember which, I was just relieved reading the medical info.  Also there are some postings on this site where ladies have given information to other women in my possible situation saying that their doctors have told them that a pregnancy which is possible blighted ovum would not contain the yolk sac.
I can't believe how much of a help this website has been for me and am really grateful for all of your advice which has really put my mind at ease. My dh thinks you are brilliant.
I promise I will let you know how the scan on monday goes, I'm keeping everything crossed!

Claire

[snagglepuss1]

Thanks for those website addresses, they were really helpful, I can't believe how doctors can be so quick to pass a pregnancy off as blighted ovum if the baby can't be seen when you think you are so many weeks, I mean every woman is different so why cant they allow for that, also if your last period date is taken and the doctors say you are pregnant from then, you don't ovulate while you are menstruating, so how many weeks can it actually be before you are medically pregnant?
I am supposed to be 7 weeks 2 days today, but what if I am actually only 4 or 5 weeks pregnannt?  They wouldn't have seen a heartbeat on monday anyway would they?
This makes me wonder what percentage of us have terminated a viable pregnancy because doctors are just to quick to jump to conclusions.

[snagglepuss1]

http://www.amersham-health.com

some interesting facts i thought

[snagglepuss1]

sorry

this should take you direct to blighted ovum info

http://www.amersham-health.com/medcyclopaedia/volume%20IV%202/BLIGHTED%20OVUM.asp

[Niki73]

Yes you are right the HCG hormone that you are producing does cause the morning sickness along with other hormones that are changing...so I agree I think if you are getting sicker then your HCG levels must be rising! If I understand this right the reason most women start to feel better after the first trimester is because the HCG levels start to even out and actually go down... I think everything sounds good...I bet when you go back for your u/s you will see the heart beat! How far along do you think you are now?I know everyone's body is different but like I said before with my three miscarriages I never got sick or felt any symptons but once they started giving me the progesterone shots I was sick with my daughter and I am sick with this pregnancy!!! So hang in there and keep me updated....

[snagglepuss1]

According to my lmp I should be 7 weeks & 3 days, but I doubt very much theres a baby the size of 7 weeks in side of me!

[lovinmom]

You are right.  You could be two weeks less than what the doctors say depending on when you ovulated.  The doctors use a standard chart based upon ovulation at day fourteen of your cycle.  You could have ovulated later, for example, day 21.  That would put you at 6 weeks instead of seven.  Do you remember around what date you had clear stretchy mucous?  That would also be a good indicator of when you ovulated.  If you could figure that out and let me know, I have a pregnancy chart and could figure out your weeks for you.  Thanks for the website.  We will be gone 6/27-6/29.  Continue to keep us posted.  Take care.

[snagglepuss1]

I use opk's I detected my surge on the 19th May, so its 48 hours maximum from then when I ovulate. I can't remember when I noticed the mucus different on a particular day, but my dh and I did try each day from when my surge was detected and hey presto! If you could give me any guidance I'd be really grateful

Claire

[snagglepuss1]

I use the ovulation predictor kits, the kit showed my surge began on May 19th, so 48 hours maximum later I should have conceived, I don't remember the mucus being stretchy on a particular day around them I'm afraid, but my dh and I were trying the entire time and hey presto!
Any guidance you could give me I'd be really greatful for

Claire

[snagglepuss1]

you know I posted once to your response, logged off the computer then came back on just and I couldn't see my response to you, so I retyped it and then when I returned to the forum after posting, there was my first response! Typical

[lovinmom]

Hi Claire,  Yep.  You are very early!  On my pregnancy wheel, you can put in either conception date or last day of period.  The conception date is so much more accurate.  If you ovulated on May 19, that would make you 7 weeks, 3 day as of today June 26.  If you ovulated May 20, that would make you 7 weeks, 2 days of today and so on.  If you ovulated May 21, that would make you 7 weeks, 1 day as of today.  Doctors never seem to take the ovulation date into consideration.  They just look at the date of your last period.  When was your last period?  I will look that up and compare.  I am leaving 6/27-6/29 if you don't hear from me, I will be back.  I am praying for you!  You are so early.  I will post another interesting web-site for you.

[lovinmom]

http://www.epinions.com/content_3524173956

Good story to read about a woman who was misdiagnosed.

[lovinmom]

I am in a similar situation after having In Vitro. Two 5 day embryos were transferred and pg tests came back positive and betas doubled.

At 6wks5days we had our first sono and they saw a gestational sac and yolk sac but no fetal pole.

At 7wks5days they looked again and although the gestational sac had grown slightly, there was still no baby.

My reproductive endocrinologist confirmed that I had a blighted ovum and suggested waiting it out for 3-4 weeks before having a D&C.

At 8wks1 day I went to my OB/GYN for a consulation to discuss D&C options and scheduling. She wanted to do another sono and take a look. She found a heartbeat and a baby with a heart rate of 133. The baby is only measuring 6wks5days, though--instead of 8.

I don't know what to think of this, and cannot understand why the baby would be so small--with IVF, there's no doubt as to the fertilization date.

For those of you out there waiting, please keep waiting. I don't know how things will turn out for me, but I'm so glad I didn't rush off for a D&C after the 2nd sono!

Tammy

[snagglepuss1]

Hi

I have a question I need answering, I know you are away for a few days, but if you could respond asap when you return as I am a little worried now. so I am somewhere between 7 weeks 3 days or 7 weeks 1 day? I have a fetus that big inside me?
But according to my lmp on 4th May, I am only 7 weeks 5 days today, the 27th June.This is what concerns me as I didn't ovulate till nearly 3 weeks later than my period, but you say I am between 7 weeks 3 days & 7 weeks 1 day.
As you know we have the scan tomorrow, I will lwt you know what happends, should I worry if they can't see the baby?

Claire

[pregnant and scared at 16]

Hey everyone. I am 16 and pregnant for the first time. I had an internal u/s done at 7 and 1/2 weeks and they saw a yolk sac but no baby or heartbeat. I am now 8 1/2 weeks pregnant. I've been doing tons of research to find out exactly what's wrong with me. My OB/GYN says I am going to miscarry he isn't sure when though. My hormone levels went from 85000 to 75000. He says that if I am not going to miscarry I have VTS vanishing twin syndrome. It is where they can't see the baby because the other baby has died. That causes the drop in the hormone levels. Or I have a blighted ovum. I don't know which one I have. I've been told a blighted ovum is causes by abnormalties in the man's sperm and the father of my baby has had 3 healthy girls. Also women in my family often get pregnant with twins and then experience VTS. I have all the signs of pregnancy- weight gain, I'm getting fatter, morning sickness, fatigue, cravings, and I have no cramps and have not bled at all. I still feel pregnant and really want this baby so what do you think?? Do I have a blighted ovum, VTS, or am I going to be fine? Pregnant and Scared at 16

[Bak2Basiks]

well went for my scan and they said that I had a intrauteirne sac with a good decidual reaction No foetal pole noted at this stage a yolk sac is present  what does all that mean? all I saw was a sac and the now the doc tor has sent me to get HCP testing or blood testing for my hormone levels I still have cramps no bleeding though my boobs are sore sometimes i have no appetite for food um always tired i sleep during the day when Im not at work the doctor is going to send me for another scan in the mean time I am going to get hormone tested so I just had one today and next week on monday I am so confused reading and researching I feel like im gonna loose the baby but since been on this site I feel like I have hope and im gonna wait until my next scan. I have in the past have had polysistic in my ovaries because of my massive weight gain and my periods weren coming oftern and then I lost 20 kilos 3 months ago my periods started coming regularly and then bang I felt pregnant I got it really early because my last menstrual was at the end of August and I got tested on the 25 September therefore due in June 03 2010 and I have a 12 year old daughter so hopefully all goes well in 2 - 3 weeks I really want this one we have been trying for the last 12 years I just wanted to know what those terms at the top were thankyou

[snagglepuss1]

hi,

as the person who started this thread back in 2004!!!! i have to say your pregnancy sounds exactly the same as mine did! i have a 4 year old daughter now!!! all was fine, it was just too soon to see the heartbeat, try not to worry it sounds like your pregnancy is progressing as it should, i take it you are going to be re-scanned soon? keep us updated!!

[littlelulu77]

i recently found out i was expecting my second child went in for myfirst altra sound wed nov4/09 they said there was a sac that my uterus looked fine it was expanding the way it should be and that i am right were i should be for 4 weeks 2days! but my nurse had calculated me at almost 9 weeks and it may be a blighted ovum or just miscalculation. i can't rememeber when my last periode was exactly i know it was in sep i think it was arounld the 20th so by that 9 weeks if acurate.i have all the symptoms of a healthy pregnancy sore boobs, ms, tired! but one thing does not make sense to me on the first pg test i did it came out negative about a week and a half before the positive one! so if her calculations r right and i am over 9 weeks then 3 weeks ago when i did the first it would have shown up i would have been 6-7 weeks so it gives me more hope for miscaculation!i have read that even with a blighted pregnancy you have all the symptoms of a normal one,this is really hard to sit and wait for 2 weeks to find out..

[april7984]

Hello...my husband and I have been trying for not too long to have another baby.  Our daughter is 4.  I was taking ovulation predictor tests so I know that I ovulated around the 10th of October.  I took a preg test and it came back positive around the 17th of October.  That seems really early to be able to detect a pregnancy to me but none the less...it did.  I went in for an ultrasound last week and they said that there wasn't anything in the sac.  I have another appt this week.  My concerns are: they are saying I am like 7 wks pregnant, but I know when I ovulated which was like 4.5 - 5 wks ago???  My lmp was Sept 12th so they aren't going off of that.  I told them when I ovulated and they didn't seem to care.  I want to know at what point it is safe to assume you have truly had a blighted ovum and at what point is it premature guessing??  I mean, if they say "at 7 wks you would def be able to see something" but I know I can only be about 5wks then what gives??

[dna20112009]

Hi....this is my second pregnancy. i had no problems with my first one. my lmp was 10th of sep09. the GP wanted to get a dating scan done. i had no bleeding/no cramping and he asked me to go for a scan on 5th of nov09. i do not know my ovulation dates. the scan detected an empty gestational sac. prior to 5th of nov09 (my scan
), i used to have morning sickness and tiredness. i still do...but the level of morning sickness or tiredness is low as compared to what i used to have before my scan. the doctor says it looks like a blighted ovum. i went for 3 blood tests for getting my HCG levels tested. they are increasing but not doubling every 48 hours. my tummy does not feel bloated any more. on 23rd november i have another ultrasound and have taken an appoinment with the specialist on 24th of november. i am surely confused as with my first one i had an ulteasound at 12 weeks. i am very worried...looks like i have lost this one