my friend thinks its okay to smoke marjuana around 3 year old

[hollynabigail]

My friend has smoked pot through her entire pregnancy constantly and really strong potent stuff. I tell her that it is probally not safe for her unborn child. She would tell me that her doctors think that smoking pot is better than cigerattes and she did both. Also she would say that she used to get really sick and the only way that she would be able to hold food down would be by smoking pot and her doctor was okay with that. Her son is three years old now and he has extreme hiperactivity and has a very  serious delinquency problem to the point where he may get kicked out of public school. She has smoked around him since he was born and a lot of times it will be in an unvented room. And then there is time were there would be about ten people in that room. Her theary now is that marjuana smoke has no effect on him and that the THC once blown looses it potency. I need to find some scientific facts to show this childs parents that it is not okay. The funny thing about this is that she will smoke her ciggerettes outside but not her marijuana. Does anyone have any facts about this. and some advise about what I should do?

[kellym]

Here's a fact.....  common sense . com

[ImmortalOne]

3 years old.. public school?  huh?  they allow that?

[jjerzeegirl]

(forehead crinkled and shaking head)

[Mom2be530]

I feel differently about marijuana then most people.  I have a lot of health problems and I am a supporter of medical marjuana.  Medical marijuana is not legal in the I live in, but it is often prescribed to patients with my condition in states where it is legal.  I normally use it on a regular basis, but I do not use while pregnant.  I don't think thats fare, the baby doesn't have a choice and I'm not going to do anything I think may hurt it.  I also never use in frount of my son and I never would.  If I need to be alert or I know I will be leaving my home I do not use.  I don't think its a good idea to be high all day and I don't think it should interfear with life in anyway.  I do not support hard drugs, but I do support medical marijuana.  I never hide my use from anyone.  All of my doctors and health care providers know of my use.  A majority of them support it.  I've been asked if it help and I told them it did.  They said "great!".  The bad thing is that it is illegal in my state, so I do have to buy off the streets.  I wish they would legalize it for atleast medical use if nothing else.  I would feel a lot better if I could just walk into a pharmacy with my prescription and be able to get it like in California, but its not so easy here.  Drew Carry has recently spoken out on this subject and I'm happy to hear a celbrity is taking notice.  If you go to:  http://www.reason.tv/video/show/57.html   you can see his short documentry.  Its pretty good I tought.  Have to take a lot of drugs.  I'm constanly nauseated, vomitting, and in pain.  If I can sit in the privacy of my own home- smoke, and then have a few hours of not being nauseated, being able to eat something for once, and not be in pain I don't know why I shouldn't be able to do this.

I don't think she is being responsible with her use at all, and if its just for recreation I don't think she should do it.   I don't know if her sons hyper activity is based on just using pot when she was pregnant.  Before I found out about my son, I used and there is nothing wrong with him.  I don't think its right that she uses infrount of her son or brings people around that would use around him.  Its not safe and its not healthy, and your very right to be conserned for her and her child.  I would hate for something to happen to him because she was too high to take care of him.  I would hate for her to get caught and risk lossing her son.  People notice when you have traffic going through your house.  Once again- I DO NOT SUPPORT HARD DRUGS, but I do support the use of medical marijuana.  I hope anyone who reads this takes the time to see the posted documentary.

[dreamreader76]

This is a tough subject. I agree with the use of prescribed medical marijuana. It is a drug, like any other, with many pros and cons. I can understand the stigma of hearing about someone who is pregnant put anykind of street drug into thier bodies. But, women put prescribed drugs into thier bodies all the time. Just the other day, someone here posted about Vicodine use while pregnant. Why is that any differnt than medical marijuana? It isnt. I would think, that if a woman can not get any nutrition to her or her baby b/c of severe morning sickness, then maybe some pot (under a doctors care) would be more beneficail than harmful.
As far as her kid being so delinquent. Its probably because of the fact that his mom is a drug addict. Not nesessarily because he inhales second hand smoke from the pot. Or maybe both. Sounds like a behavioral issue.

[AnnieBrooke]

Even if she "thinks it's OK," she must be dimly aware that it is illegal, and she doesn't seem to care enough about her child to even be concerned about that.  The kid needs out of that household pronto.  There is no reasoning with someone like her, no magic words that can be said.  While you are trying to find the right persuasion, her child is being endangered.  Frankly, I'd report her to the appropriate child welfare agency  (like, tomorrow).  The time to talk is past, if she would even have listened which it sounds like she won't.  Where is the protection for the child?  Stop being so damn nice and get the child out of danger.

[Mom2be530]

I think she sould have a chance to turn things around, if things don't change then maybe it would be a good idea for the child to leave the home.  Both her and the child deserve it.  No one wants to just go in and start taking peoples kids away, that might be even more tramatic for the child.  I think holly should talk to her friend in a loving way, express her consers, and offer to get this lady some help to straighten out her life.  Drug addictions are real and there are certain ways to handle it.  She need to be approched in love.  I think she would would be more open to get the help she needs if she knows she will have support, not because someone is trying to take her kids.  I think that would just make the situation worse.  My best friend was threated to have her oldest daughter taken away from her.  I was there, I saw her pain.  And guess what??  My friend is dead.  She commited suicide 5 months ago, she hung herself in a closet in her home.  She was a wonderful mother and falsely accused of child abuse.  I never want this to happen to anyone else, and thats why I'm speaking out on this.  This family deserves a chance, if the mother won't accept help then tough love will be need.  Please give her a chance.

[tiredbuthappy]

she is lying to you. there is no way a doctor would ever say that. she is also probably lying to herself. my concern is that if she is that addicted and willing to put the health and safety of her child on the line and rationalize it, then it would take extreme measures to get her to seriously consider breaking her addiction. i haven't experienced drug addiction, but several close loved ones went through alcohol addiction. the prospect of jail does not stop them. the prospect of losing loved ones does not stop them. these children need to be protected while she gets help. my best friend's family has fostered children of drug addicted parents for years. often they only keep the children until the parents straighten themselves out. most likely, she wouldn't lose them permanently. also, i think they are often placed with family (aunt, grandparents etc...) if possible. however, i don't know if you should go straight to the authorities. while in theory you should, i know it would be very difficult. is there someone close to her (family, other friends) that you could speak to about an intervention?


by the way ladies... i teach in a public preschool :) it's becomming more common. and last year they did have to suggest to a family that the child stay home for a few months because the child's behavior was dangerous to himself, his teachers, and his peers.

[spade22]

Look up the terms "hotboxing" and "second hand smoke".  Your friends child is being exposed to a drug which is considered illegal.  If child services were to be called, it is likely a  formal investigation would ensue.

[dreamreader76]

I dont think that people should be so quick to judge to have the child taken out of the home. Although, I can obviously see the concern here. But I agree with OP that taking a child away from his mother can be more harmful. If mom was cooking crack and selling and blah blah blah, then I may sing a different song. But I think that you should talk to your friend about getting help. She needs to stop what she is doing and get into NA. You should be prepared when you talk to her with places and times of local meetings.

[peekawho]

Why do some of the responses in this thread not surprise me at all?

[cantwait4baby]

The fact is that it is illegal and if you care at all about your baby or your friends baby you will report her to Child and Family Services.

I do not even spray hairspray anywhere near my baby let alone smoke, or an illegal substance.

I know smoking this stuff is done pretty much everywhere and even if it were done in your home before baby do it elsewhere after baby.  Baby comes first.

[Mom2be530]

She may be lying, but you can't say that there is "no way a doctor could say that".  Thats a false statement, some doctors in this country even write prescriptions for it in the states where it is legal.  You can take that perscription, go to a pharmacy, and walk out with medical marijuana.  Its done all the time.  I work with 11 different doctors who do different things.  8 out of my 11 doctors support it.  

I don't know why some people are quick to judge the intentions of these people.  I myself am a recovering drug addict.  I've been clean for 6 years.  Addiction isn't fun, it hurts, and causes major depression.  Just because they are addicts doesn't make them bad people.  They need help and there is a proper way to do it.  Support and love goes much further.

[BabyHardiman]

The topic here is not judging the drug abuser, the topic is the child involved in this.  The child needs to come FIRST, BEFORE we support the parent who is harming their child with this drug. This person obviously has no medical issue for using drugs... she is SMOKING around her 3 year old, there are NO excuses for that at all.

[BabyHardiman]

I think they consider Day Cares as school now.  My BF's daughter goes to an enrichment "school" though all of the kids are 4 and under.

[Mom2be530]

I agree its not good for her to smoke anything around her child, its a unfortunate and very sad.  I'm hoping she can get the help she needs so bother her and her baby can be healthy and happy.  I think the family needs an intervention immediatly, but by people who care about both of them.  They need a plan.  She should be approched with a plan so there is no time to say "but".  They need to have a idea of where she could go for treatment, better if the is an opening and she could go that day.  They need a plan of who can take care of her child while she is away, some where she knows he will be safe so she can focus on her treatment.  A plan for someone to check on her home while she is gone.  And someone who can help her get in touch with whom ever about her missing work to go in for treatment.  She needs loving people to sit down and tell her she needs to get help that day.  That they will no longer be able to stand by and watch her hurt herself and her child..  If they stand by and say nothing, they are supporting it, and they can not do that anymore.  They need to make it her problem.  Once it is her problem she will be more open to getting help.  Then they need to ask her to get help that day.  She should know that there will be consequences if she chooses not to get the treatment.  If she says no to treatment, she should be told that they will in fact call child services, report her use of drugs, and possibly be charged with child abuse.  

I think an intervention should be tried, before child welfare comes in busting down doors.  I think this should be done sooner then later for the benifit of all involved.

[laura1977]

well personally why do you stay friends with her. if you think she is indangering her child, then you need to be the voice for that child

[daprincess21]

i agree with laura and honostly didnt read all the post, but i would have to say that your friend has no business smoking pot and taking care of an inocent child. thats just sad. I will pray for her.

[kris123]

You said it all.  I would never do anything that would cause my children to be taken away from me.  I smoked my fair share of Mary Jane, but that is OVER. illegal that is all that needs to be said.  I was caught when I was younger with pot on me and I have that on my record.  Because of it, I can't live some places or get certain jobs.  So there it is not worth me getting high.  

[pertykitty]

when we say give her one more chance, or she will change with love and understanding, what happens when the next time she gets into her car and runs over her child or anothers because she was too stoned to step on the brake?  at that point do we THEN decide to do something about it? there are people that will not listen to reason nor will they give any thought to quitting what is harming their children, at that point i agree with annie that steps to get the kids to a safer place need to be taken.  i know a young mom that was smoking crack with her little child running around and living in a motel and all the horrid things we have read about on here. that child was taken away and then she went to rehab. good to say that today they are doing well, mom is clean and they live on their own.  it can be done, maybe this is the wake up call that is needed.  if you are a recovering addict then you know full well that you have to hit rock bottom before you are willing to take the next step.  

[peekawho]

You don't need a reason to tell your friend not to smoke pot.

It's illegal, and if someone doesn't have a prescription for legal use, that person is entirely open to action by CPS and/or the police.  Plain and simple.  

No one can argue with that.  Someone might have all the justification in the world, but unless your friend has a prescription, what she is doing is against the law and she (and her kids) can suffer the consequences.  

And it will be all her own fault.  

[ponderousmom]

ok--im not condoning someone smoking marijuana  around their child, but at the same time....everyone seems to be taking mood altering perscription drugs, and no one says boo to them. all the people who need something for ocd, anxiety disorders, panic attacks, whatever, the ones that go to the doctor to get something because they cant cope with life--how is it any different???  and im not trying to be smart, but doesnt marijuana acheive the same effect as those other drugs?  lets you relax?  but yet you never hear of anyones child being taken away because there mom is on prozac.....and their addictive too.

[jenstam]

Peek said it exactly how I would say it. The key issue at hand here is that it is ILLEGAL. I don't care what your excuses are, if you have children in your home then it should be plain and simple. Put your love for your children before your love for smoking weed. Not worth the risk. Besides, it is loaded with carcinogens. But that's beside the point. It's selfish and ignorant for anyone to try to excuse something illegal; especially when they have children.

[jenstam]

I'm not looking for an argument here on right or wrong with an individuals state of mind on legal prescription drugs. That's not what this is about. It's about an illegal substance. The key word is illegal. We could start a whole other debate on marijuane versus prescription drugs and have valid points with each. But that's not what this is about. The fact is that it's not smart to expose your children to the possible consequences of the illegal aspect of marijuana use even if you're not doing it around them.

[BabyHardiman]

I can not imagine how a 3 year old would feel walking around with a contact buzz.. it gives me shivers and angers me to think about it!!

[ponderousmom]

but with all the recalls nowadays, illegal and legal drugs have about the same "safety" issues.

[pertykitty]

this isnt about anything other than this girl smoking an illegal drug around her kids.  its not about pills or alcohol (yes i agree they are abused as well by moms) its about pot. we can bring a million other reasons a mom shouldnt be allowed to keep her kids but lets remember what this post was about. i just read what jenshim said i guess we are both smart cookies who think alike lol.  its unfortunate that there are so many moms out there who need to self medicate-maybe they should be sterilized so they cant do this over and over, how is that for opening a can of debate haha

[kjbutcher]

leaving the debate of marijuana being ok or not out of this, her blaitant disregard for rules is spilling over to her son. She obviously doesnt follow the rules and probably doesn thave many rules for her child.  hence, he is acting out...just bad parenting, a pot head or not.

[kjbutcher]

oh and as far as the school thing that seemed unrealistic.  at least in my area, children with learning disabilities, or just parents who fail to teach their child anything can get into a daycare/prek learning thing in some of our public schools.  

[pertykitty]

i cant stop chuckling over things that are said sometimes lol.

[tiredbuthappy]

smoking pot and using prescription drugs is different. she's not putting prescription pills into her son's food- she is contaminating the air he breathes with harmful chemicals. let's not stray from the original issue- she is letting her young child inhale marijuana smoke, and exposing her unborn child to it. and the pot is NOT prescribed to her. and "there is no way a doctor would say that." i challenge you to find one doctor who would claim that it is not harmful to smoke pot while pregnant or in front of a young child. and when you do find that elusive doctor, please report him or her because s/he should not be practicing medicine.

[tiredbuthappy]

:)

[jenstam]

Comical!

[Mom2be530]

"if you are a recovering addict then you know full well that you have to hit rock bottom before you are willing to take the next step."

Let me not jump to conclusions, give you the benifit of the doubt, and know that you we not talking to me!  

[queenalexa]

Well i am a heavy pot smoker or was untill i found out i was pregnant and stoped when i found out. But i was VERY ILL all of the time not just in the am. I couldnt eat or keep down the vitamins and I ended up having to try it because i cant take a lot of medications to begin with and less while pregont due to allergies. If you look online many doctors do prescribe it for pregnant women who were voilently ill or had no will to eat. But this does not mean to smoke a tone of it all day or in front of the child after it is born. Think about the effect it has on us now times that by like 10 for a baby who is 1 10th the size we are?? The child does not need it therefore if you must so it take it outside respect that clean air for you child in the home is always better than a smoke filled room to build up tar and nicotine on their lungs before they get a chance to grow. There is no medical proof that pot has any effect on the fetus accept that smoking anything will maby cause a smaller birth weight.

[jenstam]

Pot smokers will defend their use and abuse to no end. It just amazes me that people will make all the excuses in the world for their behavior when it comes to this. Regular marijuana use causes a number of physical symptoms such as anxiety, insomnia, depression and paranoia. Now, tell a regular user that these things are possibly related to their weed habit and they will argue 'til their faces turn blue that it's not fact. Why on earth anyone would allow an illegal substance or be buying drugs on the street when they have children in their home is beyond my league of understanding. How can one argue that it's worth it? I don't get the logic behind this "reasoning".

[peekawho]

It's illegal.  If you use, and you are caught, there will be repercussions.

We frequently drug test either the women (if they consent) or the baby (if they don't consent to a test for themselves) if we have the slightest suspicion someone is using.  And don't think that nonusers can't tell...usually we can tell pretty easily.  

Remember, the hospital can legally test your babies, ladies.  Without your consent.  

[have 2 kids]

You say you are a single mother and yet your son is never exposed to the MJ?   There must be times when you are still high when he's around or the smell must still be in the room.   How are you going to explain to your son when he finds it?   Are you going to tell him it's ok for you to use it?
You buy yours off the street- it could be laced with anything.   I certainly don't know how you can justify doing something illegal.

[cantwait4baby]

Taking prescription drugs that are monitored by a doctor due to a problem that you have been tested for is a lot different then smoking pot because you just dont feel like dealing with the everyday trials of what we call life.  If your friend or you according to some of the responses on here need to smoke pot to deal with stress then go see a doctor.  Lets Face it Almost everyone in the world is stressed.  I was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder about 6 years ago.  I still have the same bottle of xanex that was prescribed to me then with about 5 left. I was diagnosed and still managed to get through each day without help from a stupid pill.  The ones I did take were mainly when I was on an airplane.  I dont care if my house burns down I would not take another NOW that my baby is here and needs me to be on my toes at all times.

Drug Users always defend themselves.  ALWAYS - I know from real life.  PS.  I had a cousin who I love dearly - she became addicted and I REPORTED her.  She is in jail now and her kids are living with their father.  KIDS/BABIES COME FIRST>.... PERIOD.  You come second or third or forth depending on how many kids you have.

[queenalexa]

it is illegal because they dont understand it. Hun i suggest you just ask her nicley and explain that you just dont want your baby exposed. she will respect you if she is your friend and take it away from you. as far as the child goes she has done reserch so she is concerned. try explaining to her this way. The 3yr old is 1/8th her size so the effect it has on her is double or maby tripple on his young growing body. His lungs are growing but have that second hand smoke creating a build up of tar on them which we all know is not healthy or nice. One joint is equal to smoking an entire pack of cigarettes. The smoke we blow out cant be filtered otherweise it would not come out as smoke it would be clear like oxygen. try looking up ampsterdam the use it for everything over there maby they will have some kind of reserch going on..??? I dont think it is good to expose a child to it and if she wants to do it it is her choice that doesnt give anyone the rite to judge her or even you for asking in her favor. all you can do dear is give your opinion and hope that she hears it. It is and will be her perogative weather or not she listens and what she does shoouldnt make you hate her. I had a miscarriage and everyone is mad at me for being sad about it. The world is not fair so just try to enjoy life and be there for eachother.  think about it like this. would she light that joint and put it in that child's mouth? then pint out if she is filling his air with the smoke than she may as well just give him the joint rite? i hope you can work this out together and good luck best wishes.

[peekawho]

I think marijuana is well enough understood, queenalexa.  

It remains illegal.  

[Mom2be530]

Yeah, I'm a single mom, and no my son has never exposed to marijuana.  Like I said before I don't use around my kids and I never would.  I'm a chroniclly ill adult living at home.  Since I have become sick I lost both my job and my home, I'm now disabled.  Jack and I live with my parents.  My family is very supportive of me and there are a lot of times when I'm much to sick to take care of my son.  Be it I'm in the hospital or where ever.  I senped 10 hours a day attached to a iv bag, I vomit usually 8-10 times a day.  I live constantly nauseated, vomitting, and in pain.  If I need a break my family is always there to back me up.  I don't use daily when I do use.  And when I do my son is somewhere safe and I know he is well taken care of.  I don't use for recreation, it helps me, and if I'm having a rough day then I don't see what the problem is.

And I never leave anything where my son can get it.  Its always in a lock box, high up in the closet, and the keys are always somewhere else.  Just like people who own guns, samething.

Like I said, I do not support hard drugs, but I do support medical marijuana.  I don't think its for everyone and definatly not children.  I would never off that to a child or anyone else.  If it was legal here then I would have a prescription for it.  Whats the difference in you filling your prescriptions??  Would you give your meds to your children??  Probably not.

I wish they would legalise madical marijuana in more then just 12 states.  It would be safer and easier.  Your right, anything I get off the stree could be laced and I wouldn't know it.  Thats why they should leagalise it for medical use.

If I moved to California where they have medical marijuana, would you still be questioning my use??

[peekawho]

You are not in California, and you were using, buying, and storing marijuana illegally.  That's the fact, and there is no getting around it.  

[jenstam]

Illegal, no matter how you look at it. There are consequences. It's not even about whether it helps or not. It's illegal...you are putting your needs ahead of the risks it poses for your son if you get caught. I just have to chuckle over how people defend their use. This is not about your use. It's about it being illegal.

[Kim1989]

Has anyone else wondered where the orginal poster went to

[peekawho]

Vanished into the night, where they all go.  Lit a match and walked away.  

[Kim1989]

this post has been going on for days and she got eveyone worked up insead and never came back.

[houseofgirls]

This always happens...the OP starts all this, then never says another word.  Why bother even responding?

[LosingMyMindInGA]

ok I have no real problems with people who smoke pot either recreationally once in awhile or medically.  What I have a problem with is someone who has blatant disregard for their childs well-being.  Personally I could care less about what this mother wants to do to herself....but someone needs to stand up for this childs rights since he can't do it himself.  If it were me I would
a) report this women to the drug task force at the local police
b) put in a call to whatever agency handles child welfare, not with the intentions of having her child removed from the home, but perhaps these two places can assist this mother in raising the quality of life for her child.  


And just to clean something up...I'm not sure about other states but in MY state...the actually smoking of marijuana , it's the possession of the drug and it's paraphenalia that are.  Though the two go hand in hand.  

[pertykitty]

if you make brownies out of it is that ok??? lol

[vsentz]

"it is illegal because they dont understand it. "

yeah.... it's like saying 'I am not fat... I am just big-boned'..... when you BMI screams 'Morbidly Obese'

then again: bad example to compare with. Overweight people do NOT affect 3rd parties!

simply: a person who won't stop smoking pot or any other illegal substance is NOT worthy of having a child.

SAD.

[vsentz]

are you asking a big-boned here???


*sucks in belly*

*shakes off chocolaty crumbs*

[pertykitty]

i live in cali and know several people who abuse the "medical marijuana".  i know some that are in need as well.  i dont have a problem with those that legally get it, heck i dont care if you smoke it, just not with little kids around to get the contact or while pg.  big boned, is that the same as saying im thick?  have groceries?  junk in my trunk?  lol

[kris123]

illegal - that is the key - it does not matter if one think it is ok or it is not as bad as crack, it is still illegal - you can get in trouble

[Mom2be530]

Nobody ever asked you to resond to any and every little thing I say anywhere on this forum, so once again you need to- shove it!

I have said nothing to you and I've been leaving you a lone, till now when you are making "smart" (because I can't use the word I'd like too) comments directed toward me.  Whats your problem?

This is how I feel about this subject.  Thankfully you don't live with me or around me, so you don't have to worry about what I'm doing.  You have your opinions and I have mine.  You have a right to yours, and I have a right to mine.  LEAVE ME ALONE!!  

[peekawho]

#1--All I said was the truth--what you are doing is illegal.

#2--I don't "follow you around everywhere".  I make it a point not to respond to many of the things you say.  You had a very heartfelt post elsewhere today...did you see me anywhere on it?  

I will report your personal attack to Medhelp.  If you feel I'm personally attacking YOU, I suggest you do the same.  

[pertykitty]

mom you really need to back off peek.  she never attacked you but it would seem you have paranoia which goes hand in hand with pot smoking.  

[Kim1989]

ladies ladies STOP! its not cool to see grown women aruging or fighting over this. we all have different views on different things. we are all at liberty to speak our minds. some of the things said may be concidered "out of line" but it looks like its a two way street.

mom2be530- if you feel that they are attacking you, then just dont respond. just because someone says something about/to you, doesnt mean you have to respond. ignore their comments and respond to the ones that are helpful or nice. trust me ive felt "attacked" in the past, but i was told to ignore it. being stressed and angry was the last thing i needed. but i do kno i have done my share of attacking at times.

Ladies leave it all alone. the OP left! straight left! didnt even comment back to anyone and started a mess with some of you.

[pertykitty]

you reported yourself?? i think that is a first in medhelp history!!  really it doesnt bother me to have anyone tell me off, girl you are like the millionth one here to tell me a thing or two, im just sad you didnt get to be the first.  anyway, good riddance.  you did say your parents help you to look after your child right?

[Van73]

Big Boned Girl!!  Well, I resemble that Remark!!!!

[Van73]

I resent it too...LOL   just kidding.........kinda of..no it's my fault...really......

[BabyHardiman]

This is what happens when you tell your personal life to people who do not live day in, and day out in your shoes.  I saw your thread that you were struggling to decided to take what DOCTORS prescribed to you during your pregnancy for pain relief.  I do not know what it is like to throw up 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 times a day like you do.. if I throw up ONCE a day I am out of it for good.  I absolutely hate throwing up.  I don't care what kind of responses I will get from this but I am going to say it anyway... if people were able to grow their own marijuana (sp?) for pain management the pharmacuitical companies would be probably non-existant.  Glaxo Smith Kline is laying off 250 people this Janurary due to 3 of their drugs that they were "making" did not pass some kind of screening.  There are more pills out there than anyone can probably count, and most of them are for pain, anxiety, so on and so forth.  I personally can not smoke marijuana because it makes me nutts... literally.. I have smoked it 2 times in my life, but I know many who smoke it daily.  I have a cousin who says her doctor told her to smoke for nausea which I really DO NOT believe because it is NOT legal here which means he is basically telling her to buy it from a local farmer I guess.  I really don't know how to play devils advocate here because I really can not determine the validity of any of this other than the fact that marijuana is illegal.  

I want you to know that I am thinking about you and your struggle with pain.  I believe in my heart that you ARE A GREAT MOTHER!  I am sure you will never second guess yourself no matter what people on here say to you.  The world changes daily and we are right there with it changing.  I hope that soon you will find some kind of relief from your pain.  I will keep you in my prayers.  

[vsentz]

LOL... big is beautiful.... just remember that!

*shoves milkyway in mouth*

*hands candy bar to Van73*

it's fat free...i swear! ....

[Van73]

awwwwww....of course it's Fat Free!!  Especially if it's on a message board.......Thanks Vsentz...knew I liked you!

[ponderousmom]

thank you baby hardiman---all these other "wise" woman in here really seem like they want to help.  lets see how much we can out down mom2be---thats really gonna get you somewhere.  i cant believe the the behavior in this room, mom2be is struggling with her own problems and was just trying to help, so you just go on ahead and criticize a pregnant woman thats trying to stay of her medication, does it make you feel better?  does it make you feel better when you can point out someone is worse off then you?  she has more right to comment on this post, she has experience, not dr. phils advice for the day.

[pertykitty]

there are always those that get sucked into the "poor me" of the ones that need to be on the mental health forums .  i am going to state my mind.  i dont believe for a minute she has the time to type everyday if she is so sick and spending 8 hours a day with an iv and throwing up 10 times a day. do you really believe that??? oh dont forget about the stolen password ect.  another prime example of those that want attention in the wrong way.

[ponderousmom]

if thats your opinion, then why are you giving in? and im not trying to be mean--i just dont see the point in arguing on here-- what she says/does is besides the point, she offered her opinion regarding the orignal post and everything turned to her (i understand what you mean).....people ask a question, you respond if you think you can help--why isnt it that simple?

[kjbutcher]

i have been to amsterdam.  In amsterdam you do not see it on the street.  If you went there and were not intending to smoke you would not see or smell it.  it is illegal to smoke on the street there.  You can only smoke in shops.  There are signs in the windows that you can not even let your child stand infront of the coffee shop.  They are not allowed to look in.  They card everyone nomatter how old you look.  They have laws against how much you can carry.  You can carry like 2 grams!  I can guarantee that most pot smokers here get more than two grams at one time!  Please dont look to Amsterdam to try to make you feel better about smoking in front of children!  They do have very strict laws and they do enforce them!  It is not a marijuana free for all as many people think.  If you are using the US not understand MJ like Amsterdam does as an excuse you are very wrong.  Amsterdam has done the research and made it SOMEWHAT legal but they still understand the implications of it and have tried to handle that.  It is almost like sitting at a bar here.  Just because beer is legal and you can get it, doesnt mean you should drink in a bar while pregnant or give your 3 year old a beer.  
Some of the prescription meds you are talking about do more good than harm.  If someone is depressed and cant get out of bed...taking meds that are controlled could do way more good than not taking them.  Being nausious or in some pain hardly seems worse on YOUR KIDS (not you...your kids are more important here)  than smoking pot.

[peekawho]

Its illegal.  Period.  

Doctors can't (and do not) advise smoking pot (outside of the legal states), b/c of the legal repercussions for them if their patient is caught.  I can just hear "My doctor told me to" being explained to the magistrate, then to the DA, and then charges are pressed and complaints filed against the doctor, as well as the "patient".

If anyone feels they really need medical marijuana, there are many states that do allow it.  They would need to move there to be able to use it if prescribed.  

As they say, can't argue with the facts.  I'm not bashing anyone.  Bashing someone is saying "You are an evil/bad/irresponsible person".  I have not said that.  I'm stating a fact.  It's illegal.  

[tmv]

It's hard for some to see the truth for the haze.