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by SMA827, May 26, 2008 12:26PM
To: Linda0305
Hello,  Alot of what you are feeling is what I was feeling and yes mine too subsided some what.  I just knew I was going to start and then about 4 days prior to my levels, , they almost all but went away.  Everyonce in awhile I would have them, but not like before.  I too had the serious burps and still do. However my breast have been a little sore but not alot.  

I know that time is going so slow for you right now and nothing you do is going to take your mine of it.  It consumes you and I mean all of you.

I did break down and do the hpt on day 9, i think it was and it was positive. But then I just worried that it was wrong.  So taking it really did not help that much, you still worry until it is confirmed by the Doctor.

Now I am in the 2ww for the sonogram, which is this wednesday, so again I am waiting, and again time seems to be dragging.  

I feel your pain and your uncertainity, my thoughts and prayers are truly with you.  Take Care, Let me know if I can help with any other questions. Shannon

by Linda0305, May 26, 2008 01:32PM
To: SMA827
Shannon,

Thank you for your kind words.  I needed that!  Actually I did a HPT a couple of days ago (an old one that I'd purchased for $1 at Dollar General), and although I didn't wait the 1-2 min. that it recommends, it only had one line, and I quickly threw it away, ashamed really that I'd even gotten it out.  It was mid afternoon, and I was 8 days past ET, so I'm not sure if that was accurate, but it definitely matched with the doubt that I've been feeling.  Like if I were pregnant then it should have had two lines.  I haven't even told my husband that I did it b/c he'd be upset.  I've wished that I never did it in the first place!  So, I will just have to see what comes back on Friday.  I will go in around 10:30AM, but I'm supposed to call for the results, and I won't until my husband gets home from work since I was alone and at work the first time 5 yrs. ago that I got a BFN.

So, the burping even seems to have subsided, and although I try to see if I feel ANYTHING "down there" I just don't .  And if my pants are tighter it's probably simply weight gain from laying around.

Ok, I'm not wanting to ruin everyone's holiday.  

Let me know what you learn in your sonogram!  My sister had twins in Feb. (first IUI).  Are they suspecting that you may be having multiples?

Take care and thank you again for responding to my post.

Linda

by SMA827, May 26, 2008 02:15PM
To: Linda0305
Linda,  I know how difficult is too to see people close to you have children and wonder why it isn't happening for me?  My sister has a set of twins also along with 3 other single births and my other sis has 3 children.  You are happy for them but also want it for yourself more than anything else in world.  

About the HPT, for one it is a cheapo, so you can not rely on it. Second if you had the trigger shot it could also be too soon to be out of your system. If you can wait it out I suggest you do it, if not then at least wait till day 11 or so. I would not be to worried about the symtoms subsiding as some people have had none at all.  I have a friend that did IVF and never felt a thing at all and she just gave birth 5 months ago to a baby girl at age 43!   So when I keep saying to her how I was feeling like I was going to start and all the cramping she could not understand. So I really believe everyone has different symptoms if any at all.  
As far as the holiday, I am laying on the couch being very nauseated today so you are not keeping me from anything.  It is a beautiful day and I do not feel good enough to go out and enjoy it. Just watching TV and relaxing.  However let me just tell you that even when you find out and god willing you are pregnant you will still freak out at everything. Today I went to heat up some lunch on a old birthday paper plate and the design on the plate started sparking in the microwave and I freaked and ran over there to stop it, Well now my eyes have been burning ever since looking at it and I was/am scared it could have hurt my baby/ies?  My husband says no way, but for me I am worried that the smell or looking at it could have done something.  I am praying that I am just being silly and that it did not do anything.

Just hang in there and try to stay calm and positive.  My thoughts and prayers are with you.
Shannon

by myheartgoes2allu, May 26, 2008 04:38PM
To: Linda0305
I'm sorry what your going through, I feel so much like you, what your going  through. I wish I could give you a big big hug right now.  I will pray for you and wish your HCG will be positive and your not ruin my holdiay.

by Linda0305, May 26, 2008 06:04PM
To: Shannon and myheartgoes2allu
Awww, thanks to both of you.  There are so many women who have to go through this.  It's really unbelievable!  Yes, I've been very used to everyone around me, even those who also suffer from "unexplained" infertility, finally get pregnant.  I have to say that although it is difficult, I've always been happy for them.  I just have prayed and prayed that God would not only allow me to become pregnant, but that He'd let my husband and I get to experience all that comes with a 9 month pregnancy, childbirth, etc.  ALL OF IT!  We love our two adopted children, who would never be here had we been successful with IVF yrs. ago., but there is still and always will be that desire to do as I mentioned.

Shannon, I am sorry about the microwave catastrophe!  I'm sure that you've done nothing to harm your baby, but what a crazy thing!  If your eyes don't stop burning, I'd get them checked tomorrow if you can.  On a side note, it's nice to know that other people use those unused paper plates!!!! :)

So, hugs to you both too.  I got through dinner with a friend of ours who has no idea why I'm so blue and not drinking my favorite Corona Light or any coffee after dinner!

Linda

by SMA827, May 26, 2008 06:24PM
To: Linda0305
I know, the thing that does bite is that when we are going through these longgggg weeks of wait, we can't even have drinks with hubby or friends!  Not that I mind it, but  it would  be nice to have a nice glass of wine or Corona to help wind down some.  But again it is ALL worth it!!  One more long day for me to wait.  My appointment is at 8:30 on Wednesday, so I will post as soon as I know.  Have a great evening.  Shannon

by kisbel, May 26, 2008 07:01PM
To: anyone
hi everybody ,,i had my et on thusday and yesterday i was feeling strong cramping and today also , have anybody felt this and have a possitive result?

by Linda0305, May 26, 2008 07:37PM
To: kisbel
Hi,

Yes, I had pretty strong cramping the 4th and 5th day after my ET, but I cannot tell you yet if I am pregnant.  This Friday is my "results day."  I felt that it was a good sign though.  Maybe some of the preggos will respond.

Good luck!
Linda

by kisbel, May 26, 2008 07:59PM
To: Linda
HI LINDA
Hope you bring us good news this friday .... GOOD LUCK .  and thank u for responding

by SMA827, May 27, 2008 04:26PM
To: hyperiongp
Angelique,  How is the nausea?  Mine has hit and it is lasting all day. Not just nausea, but also throwing up.  It is miserable, I am miserable!  If it wasn't for such a wonderful reason, I would seriously be depressed. I am just wondering if you have found anything great that works, if so please share.  Thank you and I hope all is well with you.  Shannon

by mysty2001, May 27, 2008 05:07PM
To: SMA
you weren't asking me
but I threw up soooooooo much
nothing worked
I am still very nauseous but only throw up sometimes

not drinking was thething that worked best for me - I am sitting here thirsty as heck but don;t want to get sick

by SMA827, May 27, 2008 05:47PM
To: mysty2001
Thank you so much. It goes away for like 10 minutes and then it comes right back.  Nothing I do seems to be helping. I read on another site about pregnancy one girl is sucking on lemon with salt and pepper on it and she said it is really helping, so I do not if that will work but worth trying it at least. I know I am going too.  Thanks so much for the information.  Shannon

by Linda0305, May 27, 2008 07:11PM
To: SMA827
Ok, I know what you're thinking........how would I know since I don't even know if I am pregnant YET, but, from friends, ginger and peppermint are both good.  Ginger capsules can be purchased at a health food store, or they used to seel Altoids in ginger flavor.  Settles the stomach.  Also, a former co-worker carried around a small bottle of peppermint oil that she purchased at a health food store.  When she felt nauseous she'd open it and smell it.  It worked for her!  Sorry that this has now set in for you Shannon, but as they say........it's a great sign for a healthy pregnancy, so hang in there, and send your husband out to the health food shop!

Linda

P.S.  I also heard that smelling rubbing alcohol works, but that sounds gross!

by hyperiongp, May 28, 2008 12:04AM
To: SMA827
I get minor relief from gingerale, but you have to find real gingerale, not the canned stuff.  It will come in a bottle and for 4 to 6 bottles and it will not be cheap for soda, it does help some though.  Also ginger candy helps if you suck on a piece.  I like the crystallized ginger.  The effect is not instant.  I also ordered some Vitamin B-6 lolipops.  I did ask my doctor about them since they contain a vitamin.  My doctor said I can have 3 lolipops a day, and that is it.  There are certain over the counter medications that are safe, but talk to your doctor.  

To anyone with severe morning sickness.  I am not a doctor but I do know this.  If you can not keep anything down for more than 24 hours you need to talk to the doctor.  Don't leave messages with the receptionist, ask to speak to the nurse.  Dehydration is really really bad.  There are medications that can safely be administered in controlled dosages that will stop the vomiting.  You need to stay well hydrated, and the inability to hold down simple fluids is not good.   Sometimes I am vomiting at 3am, it is horrible.  I will see my OB/GYN on Thursday and I am going to ask him to prescribe something, in the lowest safest dose, for those days where no food is staying down.  

Take care, Angelique

by britt1974, May 28, 2008 06:57AM
To: ANYONE
PLEASE HELP!!! I AM NOW 10 DAYS PAST A THREE DAY TRANSFER. I HAD MILD CRAMPING X 2 DAYS AGO WITH A LITTLE PINKISH DISCHARGE. YESTERDAY I HAD SOME BROWNISH DISCHARGE (NO CRAMPING). NEGATIVE HPT THIS AM? COULD I HAVE HAD A LIGHT PERIOD OR COULD THIS HAVE BEEN IMPLANTATION BLEEDING? PLEASE HELP ME.

by SMA827, May 28, 2008 10:07AM
To: Everyone
Thank you for all the wonderful information on nausea!  I had my sonogram today and it is TWINS!!!!  We are so excited.  To see those little heartbeats was so awesome.  Now I go back in 2 more weeks for another sonogram.  Now I think I am in a little bit of shock, that this really happened for us. Please keep saying prayers for us and I will for all of you. Shannon


Britt 1974,  From what I have read it could have been your embryos implanting.  It will not register on a hpt until they have implanted and start releasing HCG. So it would to early to show up.  Wait a few days and try again, using a good hpt.  

by britt1974, May 28, 2008 10:27AM
To: SHANNON
THANKS FOR YOUR INFO.I HAVE A BLOOD TEST SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW.CONGRATS ON THE TWINS!!!! I KNOW YOU ARE SO HAPPY. HOPEFULLY I WILL HAVE GOOD NEWS.  BRITTANY

by Linda0305, May 28, 2008 11:31AM
To: Shannon
That's awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Congratulations on TWINS!!!!!  Hopefully you feel better after seeing their heartbeats.  It may even make the horrible morning sickness more tolerable.  Anyway, I'm very happy for you and your husband.

Brittany, good luck tomorrow.  Mine is Friday, and it just can't get here soon enough!

Linda

by britt1974, May 28, 2008 12:46PM
To: LINDA
GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALSO. I THINK THESE LAST TWO WEEKS HAVE BEEN THE HARDEST OF MY LIFE-SO STRESSFUL WORRYING. BRITTANY

by Linda0305, May 28, 2008 01:49PM
To: Brittney
Thank you.  Let us know what you find out tomorrow.  Yes, this has been very difficult for me, and although the days pass by quickly, it's always just "there."  I've been waking up really early in the morning (today 4:45AM), and then I can't go back to sleep because I'm thinking about IT.  So, my afternoon tiredness may just be due to stress and waking up early.  

Linda

P.S.  In what states do you live in?

by hyperiongp, May 28, 2008 03:14PM
To: Shannon @ everyone else
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!We will have to compare notes.  Twins explains the sickness, double the trouble is what I say.  I know you are in shock because I remember when my doctor did the sonogram, and he found the first baby.  He found the baby, found its heartbeat, and then moved the probe a little and goes "there's the other one" like he knew it was going to be there.  Now you need to relax take it easy....

To everyone else in the two week wait, hang in there.   It is a long wait.  

Angelique

by SMA827, May 28, 2008 03:28PM
To: hyperiongp
Angelique,  The Doctor, which wasn't mine...  told me before that since I was having so much nausea so soon in the pregnancy that he bet there was going to be twins. Then he went in to look and poof there they were. One was a little smaller and a little harder to see, but he did it.  Now it all seems real!  He gave me a due date of Jan 18th, but that was before we knew it was twins.  Do you think that will change the due date?  I was in so much shock that I forgot to ask.  Shannon

by mommywanabe, May 28, 2008 04:12PM
To: Everyone
This is my first time (IVF and Blog).  Congrats and wish you all the very best.  I had my ET on May 21 and I dont go for blood work till June 2.  This morning I gave in and did a HPT and it was negative :( . I've had  cramping and sore breasts too but nothing too serious.  Should I wait for another couple of days to test again at home or just wait it out till my DR's appt?  I am so scared that this will be another let down being that I have had an ectopic pregnancy 2 years ago and 2 miscarriages in the past 6 months.  Can I please get advice from someone who is currently going through what I am going through?  BEST OF LUCK AND MAY THE BABY FAIRY GRANT YOU ALL YOUR WISHES.

by britt1974, May 28, 2008 04:55PM
To: LINDA
YA KNOW-I DO THE SAME THING-WAKE UP EARLY AND CAN'T GO BACK TO SLEEP. I WORRY,WORRY,WORRY. I COULDN'T EVEN GO TO WORK TODAY. I LIVE IN TEXAS(ABOUT A HOUR AWAY FROM HOUSTON).ANYWAY...I'LL KEEP YA'LL UPDATED TOMORROW. BRITTANY

AND TO MOMMYWANABE-I WOULD WAIT TILL DRS APPT. I'VE BEEN DOING HPT-ALL NEGATIVE. THEY ARE JUST A BIG DISAPPOINTMENT. FROM WHAT I'VE READ IT STILL MAY BE TOO EARLY.GOOD LUCK.

by kisbel, May 28, 2008 06:55PM
To: mommywanabe
hi my blood test is same date as yours , i have cramps and i feel like my period is coming , im thinking of a hpt ,, but i am really scared to see a Big NEGATIVE , this is my second ivf ... i dont think a can't afford another ivf so i hope that this one is positive ... my et was may 22 they transfer 5 embryo 3 big and 2 a little small , so i dont know what to expect , i dont feel pregnant at all .

by Linda0305, May 28, 2008 07:38PM
To: All
I agree with Brittney.  Don't test at home!  From what others have said you can get a negative HPT and then a positive blood test, so why do that to yourself?  The 2WW is hard enough.  So resist the urge and wait.  
I think we are all so afraid.  I am so glad that tomorrow is my last day of "the unknown."  At this point I just want to know either way.  I'm so tired of feeling this horrible dread/worry/doubt.  It totally sucks!  I've never felt so not in control of anything in my life!  I mean God is ultimately in charge, but I like to feel like if I set out to achieve something I can get it if I work hard enough, but infertility takes all of that away from you.  
Either way, I'm ready to go forward with my life again..........
Hang in there fellow waiters and know that you aren't alone, and this heavy heart filled with fear will be replaced by something else.  We just don't know what yet.

Linda
  

by hyperiongp, May 28, 2008 10:48PM
To: Shannon
Your actual due date will remain the same, but your doctor is going to tell you with twins you are looking at carrying them until about week 36 or 37.  Some women make it longer some not as long.  My fertility doctor said my actual due date is Christmas Eve, but when it was twins he said that I should probably expect them around the first week of December.  One of my twins is a little smaller as well, so don't stress on that.  Could the doctor find heartbeats.  At 6wks 1day my doctor found heartbeats on both of my babies.  Tomorrow is the real test though, the OB/GYN appointment.  My first actual OB/GYN appointment since getting pregnant.  I will tell you what he says tomorrow.  Again congratulations, and enjoy "double the trouble" which means double the nausea....smile though because it is real now....

by britt1974, May 29, 2008 07:01AM
To: EVERYONE
OK EVERYONE-TODAY IS THE DAY. OF COARSESHE TOLD ME IT EVEN STILL MAY BE A LITTLE EARLY ON BLOOD TOO. ITS ONLY BEEN 11 DPT.THE NURSE SAID LOTS OF WOMEN DO NOT SHOW POS. IN BLOOD TILL 14 DPT. EVEN A SMALL NUMBER WOULD MAKE ME HAPPY AND TAKE THAT WEIGHT OFF MY SHOULDERS. BUT LIKE LINDA SAID-IT IS IN GODS HANDS(AND BOY HAVE I BEEN TALKING TO HIM ALOT!!) I'LL KEEP EVERYONE UPDATED TODAY.

BRITTANY

by Linda0305, May 29, 2008 07:19AM
To: Brittney
I woke up EARLY again today, and I thought about you and said a little prayer.  I did wonder when you said it was so early past your ET, but it sounds like they told you that already.  Have you gone already this morning?  I'm in Indiana, so it's just after 8AM.  I too have been talking to God A LOT.

Shannon, I forgot to mention that Jan. 18th is my daughter's birthday, but like Angelique said, your due date may change with twins.

Keep us posted!

Linda

by mysty2001, May 29, 2008 11:10AM
SMA
I knew it was twins this time because morning sickness so soon and sever
NOTHING helped - I threw up everything for weeks - asked my doc to put me in hospital - my urine was brown he said as long as some urine I am not dehydrated
I am 12.5 weeks and still nauseaus but I can keep something down
NOTHING worked - not pills etc
good luck

my last twins I delivered at 35 weeks exactly

by britt1974, May 29, 2008 12:21PM
To: EVERYONE
WELL-BLOOD WORK NEGATIVE. THEY WANT TO RETEST IN TWO DAYS. MY HEART IS BROKEN. ITS LIKE I AM NUMB.I CAN'T STOP CRYING.I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH MYSELF TODAY.............

BRITTANY

by SMA827, May 29, 2008 12:53PM
To: All
Well my doctor put me on a prescription of Zofran" ondansetron HCL"  it is for nausea. I tried not to take it today, but oh  my goosh, I was having chills and throwing up. So I took it and it has helped a little bit.  He also told me take an extra vitamin b6. I did that too and it did nothing for the nausea.

Angelique,  thanks for the info. Well if I am to plan 3-4 weeks early that would put it right around Christmas time.  That would be cool if it was before and I was home in time for Christmas. I also found out yesterday that I can not go to my regular Gyno Doc and I am considered High Risk because of my age and I have to go to Down town Jacksonville to a hospital that has a special neo natal unit"spelling".  So now I do not know who my doc is going to be.   They did/ We did see both hearbeats, it was incredible. I am just trying to do everything right. I am going back in 2 weeks again for another sonogram.

Britt 1974-  I am sorry about your results, but it may be too early.  My thoughts and prayers are with you.

Mysty-  was your twins fine when they were born at 35 weeks? Like weight and health?  I am so excited I am already imagining what it will be like.

Shannon


by mysty2001, May 29, 2008 01:11PM
SMA
yes they were fine
both went home less than 48 hours the one under 5 pounds they had to do a car seat apnea test
I was very very active in the last weeks of pregancy - walking MILES per day and my doc said that can contrubute to healthy babies - as long as you aren't at risk for preterm labor! (I wanted to do all that I could so they would not be in NICU!)

by Linda0305, May 29, 2008 01:18PM
To: Brittney
I am also hoping that it's just too early to test, so I will continue to pray for you.  I know how you feel though.  I don't think you gave details about your cycle.  Did you have any embryos to freeze?  How many did they transfer and what was the quality of them?

Hang in there.  I know it's soooo hard!  Crying is a good thing, so don't hold back.  

Linda

by Linda0305, May 29, 2008 01:32PM
To: Shannon
I've been meaning to ask you since I read on a previous post that you had to have your progesterone/estrogen checked half way through the 2WW too.  Do you remember what they were?  I've been trying to find someone else who had a high level.

Thank you,
Linda

by britt1974, May 29, 2008 01:58PM
To: LINDA
NO-I DID NOT HAVE ANY TO FREEZE.(I ONLY HAD 4 MATURE EGGS-THEY DID NOT STIMULATE ME ENOUGH).I HAD A 4 AND 8-THE 8 WAS THE BEST IT COULD BE A???
HAS ANYONE DONE MORE THAN ONE IVF AND HAD RESULTS?? I JUST AM CONFUSED RIGHT NOW. MY HUSBAND SAYS WE'LL TRY AGAIN. HOW LONG DO THEY MAKE YOU WAIT TO TRY AGAIN. SEE I HAD NO PROBLEMS-IT WAS MALE FACTOR AND MY HUSBAND HAS THE TESA PROCEDURE ALSO. ANYONE WITH ANY SUGGESTIONS???

BRITTANY
OH-THEY TRANSFERRED THE TWO.

by SMA827, May 29, 2008 02:26PM
To: mysty & Linda
Mysty-  That is awesome.  I use to walk almost everyday, as soon as I get over the nausea then I am back at it.  It is already so hot here in Florida though.  

Linda, sorry they only said they would call me if the numbers were off and they never called me so I just continued doing the Estrogen patches and progesterone shots.  

Shannon

by hyperiongp, May 30, 2008 12:16AM
To: SMA
Today the doctor put me on the exact same medication as you for the same reason.  I told him that I am so sick all the time I can't eat or drink.  I am going to take one tonight because I am so tired of waking up in the middle of the night nauseous.  I saw my twins today, I am 10 weeks 2 days.  They were moving all over the place, wiggling, around.  I agree with your doctor about needing a hospital with a NICU (Neonatal intensive care unit).  I don't know how old you are, but my doctor told me today that if you are over 33 with twins you are high risk.  There is a possiblity that you will deliver your babies much earlier than the 35 weeks.  Here is what my doctor who works and teaches medical students at Loma Linda University Hospital here in southern CA.  Loma Linda has a main hospital and a childrens hospital.  They have state of the art NICU.  Here at Loma Linda, babies can be kept alive as young as 24-25 weeks depending on wieght, with a 50% chance of survival.  If one makes it to 28 weeks, this hospital has almost a zero morbidity rate for babies who are otherwise healthy.  As my doctor expained to me, because it is a major hospital with a NICU, if I go into labor very early, you can not stop labor, so all you can do is be prepared.  Thus, if that happens he will contend with me, and two teams of NICU doctors will deal with the babies.  You need to be at a hospital with the facilities to handle the worst case scenerio.  We hope for best case, but in the event that something goes wrong, you and those babies need the best chance for survival.  Sorry you will have to drive and change doctors, but it is probably for the better.

Take care.  Angelique

by mommywanabe, May 30, 2008 08:42AM
To: kisbel
Hi I'm sorry for getting back so late but did not get a chance to get on my computer yesterday.  I tried getting my mind off by going shopping yesterday and I did a lot of $$$ damage.  Anyway this is probably going to be my last IVF due to the cost (unless I hit the lotto).  They transferred 2 big and healthy embryos according to the embryologist.  Still cramping and boobs are not hurting as much.  Only 31/2 more days to go.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed for us that our dreams can come true.

by bimkim, May 30, 2008 12:20PM
To: Everyone
Hi All,

I am 37 years old. Had my transfer on the 19th of May, 3 embryos were transferred. 1 8-cell and 2 6-cell. Hopefully at least one takes!
I am new to the forum. Coming down to the end of my 2WW. Doctor has told me to take a HPT on Monday and call in with the result.
I feel as if I am pregnant because I can feel as though there is something against my uterus if I move around too much, however, trying not too be too optimistic, can't deal with it if nothing is there!
Have also been experiencing the sore boobs at times, bit of cramping as well.
IVF was considered because of the male factor in my case, and I have never really had any problems gynacologically, so fingers crossed, everything is good on Monday!

I want to wish all of you ladies good luck in your quest. Many people out there do not understand how hard it really is when you are told you cannot have children the natural way.

I commend all of you and put God first in all that you do.

Will let you know what happens on Monday!

by SMA827, May 30, 2008 12:32PM
To: hyperiongp
Well I had a major scare last evening.  I went to the bathroom and to my horror I was bleeding and it was very red!!  I did not panic but I wanted too.  I called the office and the after hours nurse called me back. She said if I fill a pad in 1 hour head to the ER. Thank god that did not happen. But I did not sleep last night. I went to the Doc first thing this morning and they did another sonogram. Both babies are healthy and looked like no problems. They do not know why I am bleeding, now more brownish than red.  We also got to hear the heart beats. Oh my goosh what a wonderful thing. I am still scared, but I am hopeful that the worst is behind me.

I suggest you take the medicine. It has worked wonders for me already.
They also suggested a vitamin B6 it helps with nausea as well.
I am 6 weeks 5 days!
Shannon

by mysty2001, May 30, 2008 01:01PM
To: shannon
i understand the scare
I bled a little with these twins
but with my last two pregnancies I bled a lot
It was always reassuring to see the babies and heartbeats
take it easy (did they tell you that?)
twins are scary the whole way because you worry so much!  I use the doppler at home and still am not sure if I am hearing 2 seperate
If i cramp I worry - etc

glad the m/s meds helped you - they didn''t really help me

by Linda0305, May 30, 2008 01:46PM
To: All
AAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  That's my scream and my HUGE sigh of relief!  I got a BFP, and I still can't believe it!  My beta is 464, and I'll have it checked again on Monday.  The nurse told me that because I used donor eggs and wasn't stimulated, my blood test was done a little later than they usually do it, so she estimates that had they done it earlier it would have been in the 125 range.  So thank you for all of your words of support.  Shannon, you have no idea what communicating with you on Memorial Day meant to me.  You helped me get through that day.  Thank you!

I'm praying that all remains well for you and your twins.  You've had a tough week.

Take care,
Linda

by SMA827, May 30, 2008 02:08PM
To: Mysty2001, Linda0305
Mysty,  Thank you, I am still having the brownish stuff and it still scares me. I am trying so hard to stay relaxed, but it so hard.  I just wish I knew why it is happening. They just said they did not know why. It just happens sometimes.  It helps for me to hear that it has happened before and all turned out well.  So Thanks,  Shannon

Linda, OMG  I am so happy for you.  Wow what a fantastic way to start the weekend.  Have you told your hubby yet?  About Memorial Day, you helped me too. Just having someone asside from the hubby to talk too.

Prayers and Blessings are with you and your family.
Shannon

by Linda0305, May 30, 2008 02:16PM
To: Shannon
The plan was that I was going to wait for my husband to get home (around 3:30), and HE was going to call for the results, BUT the phone rang, and I almost didn't answer it b/c it said 'blocked call.' But I did, and it was the nurse who's been there for me throughout the whole process.  She said that she couldn't stand it, and she wanted to tell me, so I had to hang up and call my husband, who is a school counselor doing conferences all day today.  I tried his cell phone 3x before he picked up, and he asked what was up, and I said "I'm pregnant!"  He was like, "excuse me?"  Yep!!!!!!  So neither of us is walking on the ground right now.  
So, for all who wait............I seriously didn't think that I was pregnant.  Boobs weren't as sore anymore in the second week, and aside from occasional headaches, cramping (nothing major), and burping and yawning at times, I never would have guessed it.  So you don't have to have all of the symptoms or any for that matter.  My stomach has been more pronounced, but I didn't know if it was due to the progesterone.

This so doesn't feel real.....to be told something that you've not heard apply to yourself is a blessing.

Shannon, is your Rx for nausea helping?

Linda

by bimkim, May 30, 2008 02:42PM
To: Everyone
It's strange because after I posted this comment. Went to the bathroom and found a little blood!! Brownish...Nurse told me not to panic it is normal. Has this happened to anyone at 10 dpo?

by hyperiongp, May 30, 2008 03:16PM
To: Shannon and bimkim
Shannon, I bled when I was 5 weeks pregnant (3 weeks post egg retrieval) and again at 7 weeks I was in the ER.  Like you I went and wiped and had BRIGHT blood.  I freaked out and went to the ER.  I did not have any cramps, but I was so scared.  They did a sonogram and the babies were fine, both had good heartbeats.  The bleeding subsided fairly quickly, and turned to brown.  I am glad your little ones are okay.  I have not had any bleeding since week 7.  I was told yesterday my my OB/GYN that early bleeding is more common in women carrying more than one baby, and fairly common in women who have undergone IVF.  

Bimkim - I had bleeding even before my blood test to confirm I was even pregnant.  It happened twice and both times I was scared to death, because I have a hx of miscarriage.  I knew however I was pregnant because HPT were coming up positive.  So I went to the urgent care to have blood drawn to check my HCG levels.  My HCG levels were fairly high, so I was told to come back in two days and see if the levels went up or down.  They went up.  My suggestion to you is if you get scared and have the option go to your nearest urgent care, they can pull blood and tell you in 1 hour what your HCG levels are. I was told what Shannon was told.  If the bleeding gets severe, which is defined as soaking a pad in one or two hours, it is a medical emergency.  Otherwise, try to relax.  

by bimkim, May 30, 2008 03:33PM
To: hyperiongp
Thanks so so much for calming me down! I was on the verge of tears for a bit...

I am so so tempted to do the hpt tommorrow but dh has said to me we only have 2 more days, so let's wait.
Unfortunately the clinic is closed by now. Nurse thought I was panicking over nothing, she told me to try to relax for the remainder of the weekend..

If the bleeding worsens will definitely page the doc.

Will update you tomorrow.

Take care,
Bimkim

by kisbel, May 30, 2008 04:52PM
To: linda
HI i feel so happy for you , when i read you had a BFP i had a big smile on my face ,, good luck .. keep us posted.

by kisbel, May 30, 2008 04:57PM
To: mommywanabe
HI i will have you in my prayers hope we get a BFP ON TUESDAY , i did the HPT this morning and it came out BFN ,, but we dont have to give up hope ,, GOOD LUCK

by SMA827, May 30, 2008 08:27PM
To: Linda, & Angelique
Linda.  I bet he could not wait to get out of work and get home to you and your baby :)  That is so fantastic.  It makes so happy in all this nausea.
Yes the RX is helping alot. I waited to long to take it tonight and when I did I threw it right back up, so now I am scared to take another one. I guess I will deal with the nausea for tonight.


Angelique,  THank you for your info. I am having the brown stuff but it is okay, long as I know they are both okay in there. Hey and if nothing else good came out of the scare, we got to hear the heartbeats 2 weeks earlier. so yea for that :)    

Shannon

by hyperiongp, May 30, 2008 11:13PM
To: bimkim
I am glad you are relaxing and will pray your bleeding just goes away.  Most people have not had to endure infertility treatment and do not understand the worries and stress that goes with it.  Doctors and nurses sometimes forget, that although they hear the complaints all the time and the same questions from different patients, that we are the patient and have endured a heck of a lot to even get to this point. When I started bleeding I emailed my fertility doctor and told him, he told me that bleeding happens, to go take it easy.  Not a whole lot of empathy, but he was right.  He later told me that he believes it was implantation bleeding, the first bleeding when the first embryo implanted and the second bleeding when the second embryo implanted.  Who will ever know though.  At 7 weeks I bled again, worse, ran to the urgent care, again the babies were fine.  Sometimes no one knows why early bleeding occurs.  I just enjoyed and was thankful for each day I am still pregnant.  I know you have not had your blood test yet, so I am going to wish you lots of baby dust.  Take care, relax.....Angelique

by bimkim, May 31, 2008 10:24AM
To: hyperiongp
Dear Angelique,
Again thanks for your fantastic words! Making things a lot easier in my mind for sure.
Bled a little more last night, brown..I tried not to think too much about it though. This morning i checked and the bleeding had subsided, so I am happy.
Well, one and a half more days before the test.
Still having symptoms, tingling in legs, sore boobs, heaviness in my uterus??...we'll see.
You are so so so lucky to be having twins!
Will let you know what happens on Monday.

Take care,
Bimkim

by jana123, May 31, 2008 02:22PM
To: Group
10 days post embryo transfer.  HPT negative today, blood test this coming Monday but 1 day past regular menses.  Does progesterone delay menses?  Could pregnancy still be a possbility?

Jana

by britt1974, May 31, 2008 03:36PM
To: LINDA
CONGRATS!! SO HAPPY FOR YOU. WHAT ATTEMPT IS THIS AT IVF??? WE ARE GOING TO TRY AGAIN-SO I AM FEELING A LITTLE BETTER NOW.

BRITTANY

by Linda0305, May 31, 2008 07:30PM
To: Brittany
Thank you so much.  It was my second attempt.  Our first was about 5 yrs. ago.  We had one try then and one try this time.  See what your doctor says when you go back.

Linda

by hyperiongp, May 31, 2008 11:54PM
To: jana123
You did not say whether you had a 3 day or 5 day transfer and it makes a difference.  Don't give up hope, people often get negatives on HPT and then get positives on blood.  Remember HPT is not as sensitive as blood.  Beta Hcg levels do not magically appear as soon as an embryo implants.  It starts to appear a couple of days later in really tiny amounts.  These amounts will double every 2 days in a normal pregnancy.  I will keep you in my prayers along with everyone else that is struggling with infertility right now.  I wish you the absolute best of luck, and please let us know the outcome.
Angelique

by hyperiongp, Jun 01, 2008 12:06AM
To: bimkim
Why are you just doing a HPT and not a blood test.  I am not a doctor but I have a reason for asking.  A home pregnancy test simply tells you whether or not you are pregnant, that is great to know and a huge stress relief, but for medical reasons you need a quantitative HCG test.  You and the doctors need to know how much hormone is in your body and you need to know that your hormone levels are doubling appropriately.  The initial level, the doctors usually want a reading above 100, then you go back in 2 or 3 days to make sure that 100 has become 200 or 300.  Hcg levels that are not doubling are a sign of problems.  Also Hcg levels that go up really fast are a sign of problems. Ideally your levels should double every 30 to 48 hours.  At the very minimum you need to see a 66% increase every 48 hours.  I will encourage you to get a blood test done ASAP, even if it means going to your regular doctor (I don't know where you are typing from) to have it done.  Monday I hope you get the positive results that you deserve.  

Take care, the wait is almost over, Angelique

by Danielle501, Jun 01, 2008 07:13AM
To: SMA827 & All
Shannon - Congrats on the twins!!   That is just so exciting.   I'm sorry that you're having so much nausea though.

Question for all on progesterone injections - How long did you stay on the injections after positive test?    This is my first positive result after 3 IVFs and the first time I did the progesterone injections.   Irrational or not, in my mind, the shots are what made it stick this time and I'm totally paranoid to go off them.    My dr said that I can switch to prometrium suppositories now.  Quite frankly, I don't enjoy those one bit and would rather suck it up with the shots!   I have about 10 doses of progesterone left so am defintiely going to keep through then.    My ultrasound is this Thursday so I'm going to talk to my dr about it then but wondered what everyone else's experience has been.

by SMA827, Jun 01, 2008 09:37AM
To: Danielle501
My doctor is keeping me on the shots and I am 7 weeks pregnant today.  I am also continuing on the estrogen patches. Most likely through the first trimester.  I do not care for any of them either but will happily continue to make sure everything is okay.  I would question your doctor as to why he is taking you off of them so soon. I read someone's blog where there doc took them off and then had to put them back on. Anyway, just ask.  Shannon

by mysty2001, Jun 01, 2008 11:48AM
To: danielle
three of four doctors I have gone to think prometrium is not good enough
progesterone supposotories only in their offices!!

I will be on the shots and suppositories until 14 weeks (other pregnancies when they told me to stop I weaned away slowly but this time i am out so I guess I stop next friday!)

by bimkim, Jun 01, 2008 01:50PM
To: hyperiongp
You're right. I have been reading up and a lot of what I have been seeing is to have the blood tested which shows up the hcg levels. however, I was told that i need to do the hpt at home and then call in with the result. Believe that they will most probably call me in the same day to test the blood or I have to make an appointment by Tuesday, I don't know...
In the meantime, trying to relax and trying my very best not to think about my early morning urine!
Still feeling heaviness around the uterus area...other than that I am fine.
Will let you know what happens tomorrow.

Danielle,
Here are the meds that I am currently on:
Bromocriptine - Half tablet at night
Cyclogest suppositories - One inserted vaginally at night and one in the morning -
(believe this is the same as your prometrium)
I was told that these are taken for the first 3 months of the pregnancy. I really don't mind doing it, because before the transfer I was taking them rectally(is that a word?) and that was just yukky!! So, vaginally is a synch for me.
Prognova - One inserted vaginally at night
2 baby aspirin every day
And of course folic acid every day

Some of these meds may look a little strange, but I am in the Caribbean and they tend to do things the British instead of the American.

Will let you know tomorrow.

ps. this forum is addictive!

by hyperiongp, Jun 01, 2008 09:05PM
To: Danielle501
I would definitely talk to the Dr.  I had early bleeding three times and both times it stopped with in a few hours of taking an extra Progesterone Shot.  I absolutely hated the suppositories, I took this capsules and inserted them vaginally.  I was real sensitive to the ingredients, so I had tons of irritation, then yeast infection because yeast love the extra hormones.  Not to mention they are messy.  I perfered stabbing myself in the behind with the 1.5 inch needle.  I was suppose to take progesterone until week 11, but week 7 they pulled blood and my progesterone levels were very very high, so I was told to stop taking all extra progesterone.  The babies placenta takes over making progesterone around week 11.  Congratulations and definitely talk to your doctor especially if shots make you more comfortable.  

Angelique

by bimkim, Jun 02, 2008 10:36AM
To: hyperiongp
Good news!! I am very pregnant!! 4 weeks to be exact.
Apparently they don't let you take the blood test, but I have to do a pregnancy test early next week, then I have to go in for my first scan on the 12th. At that time I will be 6 weeks.
Will be continuing with the Cyclogest suppositories and the Prognova.
Gotta run.
Lots of work.
Will sign in again a little later on in the day.

by AGQT, Jun 02, 2008 02:55PM
To: Everyone
Recently went through the IVF process.  Retrieval date was scheduled for May 30th, but because of a great response to medications my retrieval was moved up a day.  Had 15 fertilized eggs.  Doctor said this was the best it can get!!!  Transfer was done on June 1st, with 2 of the fertilized eggs put in.  Playing the waiting game now.  Taking progesterone shots everyday.  Boobs extremely sore, stomach distended, cramping over the last few days.  I am extremely anxious and can't take my mind off of the blood test on the 12th.  I am ready for it to get here!!!  I know it is all up to GOD, but I just need to know.  For all that have been successful with IVF....CONGRATULATIONS!!

by Linda0305, Jun 02, 2008 08:33PM
To: All
Went for my second blood test this morning.  I went from 464 on Friday to 2200!!!  My first ultrasound is this Thursday since it's looking like we have more than one here!  I'm still fortunately not having any negative pregnancy symptoms....yet....

AGQT, how great to have had such a high number of eggs!  Just hang in there.  The 2WW is so difficult, but you've just got to keep focused and believe that it will all turn out just the way that it was planned for you.  All of your symptoms sound very familiar with what I had and many others on this board.

Bimkim, congratulations on your positive pregnancy test!!!!!  Great news!

Linda

by AGQT, Jun 03, 2008 08:40AM
To: All
Linda0305: Congrats!!!  I hope they find as many on the ultrasound as you want!!  I would be tickled to death with twins.  

I'm 32 and have never been pregnant.  It seems like I have waited for this sooooo long and didn't think I would ever have this opportunity.  Thank GOD for this!!!  Without him it would never have been possible!

Has anyone ever had blastocysts frozen?  If so, exactly what does that mean.  The 2 eggs that were put in were 3 day transfer.  The doctor told me that he would let the remaining 13 go on for 5 days and out of those he hoped to have 5 or 6 blastocysts to freeze.  I thought all 13 would freeze.  Any information?

by Linda0305, Jun 03, 2008 10:37AM
To: AGQT
I know what you mean.  I'm 45, so this is more than a miracle for us.  

I am not informed enough to explain what your doctor was saying about the blastocysts to freeze, but for all 13 to make it to that stage is definitely not typical.

I continue to pray that you'll have terrific results!  I had a 3 day transfer as well.  Did they tell you the quality of both embryos?

Linda

by AGQT, Jun 03, 2008 02:08PM
To: Linda0305
They really didn't say the quality of the eggs.  But they did say my results were not expected to be as good as they were and it couldn't have been any better.  Both my husband and I had fertility issues and he had to have a MESA procedure.  I know both eggs had 8 cells....is that what you meant?

by Linda0305, Jun 03, 2008 03:14PM
To: AGQT
Yes,  at three days 8-cell embryos are what you want to see.  The other information is the grade that ranges from 1-4 or 5.  Grade 1 is the best.  Some offices use letters instead of numbers.  If he said that they couldn't be any better you probably had the best grade, and that's great too.  I'm not familiar with MESA.  We had to do both ICSI and assisted hatching on our eggs/embryos, so we were very shocked when IVF was a success!  I had two 8-cell embryos implanted and one 5 cell.  The 8-cells were grades 2 and 3, and the 5 cell was a grade 1.  I will find out on Thursday how many "took."  

Linda

by AGQT, Jun 03, 2008 05:16PM
To: Linda0305
MESA is surgical sperm retrieval; my husband had a motorcycle accident years ago and went to the ER where they gave him an involuntary vasectomy.  My tubes were 100% blocked for no known reason.  We have been together for 12 years now with no measures taken to prevent pregnancy.  I haven't been pregnant once, so IVF was our ONLY way to go.  

I'm very excited for you!!!!  I really want to get pregnant....but I'm not one that gets jealous, especially when I know it's someone that will provide for and love the child.  The ones that really get to me are the YOUNG 12-16 yr old girls that get pregnant or the ones that continue to have child after child when they can't provide those children with what they deserve and need.  That's when I start to wonder "WHY THEM AND NOT ME".  

I have prayed about this so much and I know it is in GODs hands and if it doesn't happen then I know he has other plans for me (whatever they may be).

I noticed that you have adopted and that's wonderful!!  We checked into it a few years ago and it seemed more difficult than IVF.  That's when I decided I wanted to try this first.  Later on that may be an option.

Well, I hope everything goes exactly like you and your husband want it to!!!  Good Luck, you will be in my thoughts and prayers!!

by Linda0305, Jun 03, 2008 07:30PM
To: AGQT
Thank you!  Yes, the day that we found out that our IVF was not successful (maybe 5 yrs. ago), my husband got out the yellow pages, and he started calling about adoption.  We'd never discussed what we'd do if IVF didn't work, so I was surprised by his actions.  Thankfully adoption allowed me to throw myself into all of the steps involved, and boy is that an extensive process!  I felt totally in control of our future.  I was so wrong.  Adoption, although sure to result in a baby, had its roller coaster ride filled with major emotions that I was not prepared for.  I scoured agencies from all over the US and researched which country had the youngest babies with the shortest wait, and Guatemala ended up being the country.  We adopted our daughter Maya in June 2005.  Seven months later the agency called to tell us that Maya's birthmother had given birth yet again, and our son, Cruz, our little "surprise" came to be.  We brought him home in July 2006.  Both adoptions left us pretty depleted of money and the drive to continue to grow our family.  After watching my youngest sister become pregnant a year ago through IUI on her first try, my feelings of longing to become pregnant and carry a baby and give life into the world took over yet again.  We sought out the same infertility doctor, and given my age we opted to use donor eggs in hopes of having success this time, and low and behold it worked.  It's anonymous, so it feels a little like adoption, yet I know that 50% is my husband.  I don't think about it now that I'm actually pregnant.  This baby/babies are ours just as our two adopted children are.

I wish you all the best and will continue to pray for you and all of the women longing just like myself.

Linda

by hyperiongp, Jun 04, 2008 12:01AM
To: AGQT
I can attempt to explain why only 5 or 6 will make it to blastyocyst stage.  I am curious as to why your doctor did not wait to transfer until blastyocyst stage.  

Here is how it breaks down.  The doctor performs the egg retrieval, and you had good results.  Your eggs are then fertalized, and upon fertalization we hope that they will begin to divide.  With good eggs most will make it to day 3, some will be 6 cells some will be 8 cells, but the goal is to get them to day 3.  Yours made it to day three.  

In the United States at most clinics, the belief is that at 3 days we can grade embryos but they are yet very tiny and undifferentiated.  Past experience has shown that the implantation rate is less for 3 day embryos (although pregnancy rates are about the same, more 3 day embryos are usually transfered) than for 5 day.  Most clinics will attempt to grow embryos to 5 days, and here are the reasons.  We know that not all embryos will make to 5 days, the question is why.  The belief behind it is that women all have bad eggs and the older we get the more bad eggs we have, most of these eggs are genectically incorrect.  These incorrect eggs may make it to day 3, as they only are 8 cells then, however the belief is that the eggs that make it to blastyocyst stage are the stongest of them all.  Thus the ones most likely to make a baby.  That does not mean a blastyocyst can not be genetically abnormal they can, but they are most likely to implant and create a baby.  

About 50% of embryos will make it to blastyocyst.  I had 11 fertalized eggs, and they transferred 2 blastyocysts, and I have 5 frozen, so 7 total.  Your blastyocysts will be frozen in a tank in a special liquid to prevent cell death and "freezer burn" so to speak.  In the future they can be thawed and implanted.  Not all will live through the thaw, but most will.  Consider your frozen blasts your future.....  

I hope the information helps, take care, the two week wait is agonizing, don't do a HPT wait for the blood test, and I wish you the very best of luck.
Angelique

by AGQT, Jun 04, 2008 07:26AM
To: hyperiongp
I don't know why my doctor did a 3 day transfer. When researching IVF I found alot of information stating that some clinics do 3 day, while others prefer 5 day transfers.  I guess it is based on what each facility wants to do for whatever reason.

You are having twins, right?  Maybe some doctors do 3 day in hopes to prevent multiples (If 50% make it).  Who knows, I feel like I wasn't informed of alot of things.  I only had one visit with my fertility doctor and that was the consultation.  The next time I saw him/spoke to him was at retrieval.  Is that normal?

I appreciate all the information that you provided, It helped!!!  Well hopefully I won't have to worry about the blastocysts (right now anyway)....I'm hoping & praying that this first one takes.

I noticed where you said not to do a HPT.  My husband wants me to and I kinda want to too.  I feel like I can't find out soon enough.  I am not working right now and I have way too much time to sit around and think about it!    

Congrats on your pregnancy!!!  Hope things are going great!!!

by hyperiongp, Jun 04, 2008 02:48PM
To: AGQT
Actually the opposite is usually true that blastyocyst produce less multiples because they transfer less.  Two transfered is standard with 5 day transfers.  In some countries will only allow one blastyocyst to be transfered.  Just a few years back the norm was to transfer 2 to 4 3 day embryos, and just pray one took.  Some doctors believe that your body is the best incubator for the embryos, others argue that 3 day embryos conceived the good ole fashion way are found in the fallopian tubes.  Who knows who is right.  My belief is this, if the embryo is strong enough to make a baby, it does not matter whether it is incubated inside of you or in a petri dish.  Science knows that not all embryos no matter how they are conceived, make babies, more than half of natural conceptions will end up in miscarriage, often before then woman knew she was pregnant.  

Most of the women will tell you to wait, the reason being if you get a negative HPT you are going to be devastated, and sometimes it is because they are not accurate.  If you choose to do one take this into consideration for timing.  It will take 2 to 3 days for your embryos to become blast.  Blasts then have to hatch so add another day (we are at 4).  Implantation is multi-step process, and the embryos do not start making HCG right away.  When they do start it is in such small amounts HPT can not detect.  So I would say at a minimum wait 8 to 9 days before attempting a HPT, and then use a high quality pregnancy test, such as clear blue easy or early first response (according to research it is the most sensitive test).  I know the wait is hard, I have been there.  

Keep busy...it is in the hands of God now.
Take care and I wish you a big positive.
Angelique

by readyjessie, Jun 04, 2008 03:34PM
To: everyone
HI!  I am new to these postings. I am less than 1 week away from doing a donated frozen ET. My husband and I have been ttc for almost 6 years now, and have gone through everything, including a pregnancy that resulted in a miscarriage. Our issues are both male and female conditions, so we knew we would at minimum need an egg donor. The day after Easter my mother-in-law called me screaming," We have embryos, we have embyros!"  A friend of the family (whom I had never met) had IVF a few years ago which resulted in twins, then got pregnant on her own a few months after having her twins. So, needless to say, she now has 3 children under 16 months and wants to donate her embryos to a couple who can't have children. She heard about me, then called my mother-in-law, and that is how this amazing miracle has happened!!!! I got to meet her and her husband and beautiful babies about a month ago, and we have been talking on the phone every week. I am on Lupron, estrogen pills, and begin progesterone shots this Sat., with the transfer taking place on June 10th!  Only God could orchestrate such an amazing story! I pray that everyone has wonderful success, and keep praying to God for miracles!
Jessica

by Linda0305, Jun 04, 2008 03:46PM
To: Jessica
Wow!  What an awesome story.  I so believe that God knew the perfect solution for you and your husband.  I got goose bumps reading your post.  If you've read previous posts, you'll see that my husband and I used donor eggs b/c of my age, and I'll find out tomorrow how many of the three embryos actually implanted.  

It sounds like you are already thinking the way that you should be, POSITIVELY.  I wish you the very best, and by all means keep us "posted."

Miracles do happen EVERY day!!!

Linda

by SMA827, Jun 04, 2008 04:05PM
To: readyjessie
God works in such wonderful ways!  Can't explain it, just appreciate it. What a beautiful story.  We have 7 frozen embryos and I promise that story has inspired me.  If we do not use all of ours, I feel we too will donate.  What is  wonderful is that you got to meet this beautiful couple who is such a blessing. I will anxiously await to hear from you and how it is going! Thank you for sharing your story with us.  God has a plan for your family!  Prayers being sent your way.

Shannon

by SMA827, Jun 04, 2008 04:11PM
To: Linda 0305
I know you are so very anxious for tomorrow to get here.  You better post and let us know as soon as possible. One more night and then you will know if you should be talking to one, two or three babies.  That is so great that you are not expieriencing any negative symtoms yet.  My prescpription is helping alot (nausea). I actually got out of the house for a little while today.  Well let us know tomorrow.  By the way- Are you hoping for 3?  We were hoping for twins and that is what we are having. Yea!!   Shannon

by mysty2001, Jun 04, 2008 05:07PM
To: readiejessie
comgrats on the scheduled transfer

I am pregnant with twins from donated embryos!

by Linda0305, Jun 04, 2008 06:45PM
To: Shannon
Thank you.  You are so sweet!  Hmmm....what am I hoping for?  Really I first want to hear that there is a yolk sack/s, then the rest will be a gift or gifts.  My sister that I mentioned was pregnant with triplets and lots one between weeks 8-9.  I am more terrified that they divided and I could be starring in the next Jon and Kate plus 8!  In our case the names would be Matt and Linda plus 8.  I had a dream last night that that was the case, so I've been apprehensive all day.  
I'm just so happy to be pregnant, so I'm going to go with the flow no matter the case, but twins would be the MOST that we'd like to have ideally.
I know.  I keep awaiting the nausea, etc., and so far so good, but maybe my beta isn't high enough yet so make that happen.  Are you looking "fluffy?"  I call it that.  My already large chest is blossoming, and my belly seems to be bigger every day!
I will definitely post tomorrow.  
I'm so glad that you're feeling better.  I've been thinking about you since I haven't seen you on here.

Linda

by SMA827, Jun 05, 2008 07:45AM
To: Linda0305
Well its today!!   Time to see how many babies you have in there. Yea!  Fluffy?  Yes, It is funny you would ask that. My Hubby said 1st thing this morning wow your boobs are huge, to which I said well at least you noticed them and not my stomach, well then he looked at my stomach and was like oh my goosh, let me see that!  But leave it to man to notice the upper half first.   When your sister lost one of her babies how did she know she had lost one?  I am scared about that too, I am wondering why my nausea is not so bad anymore. It really has me worried. I am trying to stay positive, but still it doesn't make much sense that all of a sudden it would just all but go away. Well I will keep checking for your post.  Good Luck,  Shannon

by readyjessie, Jun 05, 2008 07:49AM
To: everyone
Thanks Linda, Shannon, and Mysty!  
We are so ready for this, everyday feels like 20!

I too have been terrified about a John and Kate plus 8 situation. I absolutely love that show. I have a family friend who had quad boys from an IUI. She was an amazing mom...I can't imagine!  But, I guess God knows better than me how I could handle it. I am so short (4' 11")  that I don't think my body could handle it. The last time I was pregnant I had gone to MotherHood Maternity (I jumped the gun a little on that one, I was so excited to be pregnant that I bought maternity clothes at 6 weeks!!!). I tried on the pregnancy belly thing that they have, and it scared me!  I looked like a Weeble Wobble!!!
Good luck!

Jessica

by Linda0305, Jun 05, 2008 08:35AM
To: Shannon & All
Ok, I'm home.  Those ultrasound techs really freak you out.  Silence is not a good thing!  We have one definite yolk sack (no heartbeat yet), and then there is a "black spot" that both the tech and our doctor say COULD be a second one, but it's too early to tell.  He said we'd know in a week, but the biggest reason that he feels that it could be a second one is my high beta.  I'll get my results after 11:30AM today, so I'll post again.  We are very pleased to see a yolk sack in one.  I didn't expect just one since my stomach looks so "out there."  So I have a second ultrasound set for next Thursday.  I also have a blood clot near the embryo that they said 80% of women get.  Something about from implantation.  So they said that I should really be careful not to lift over 20 lbs., not to do anything strenuous, etc.  I have two small children that I have to lift, so I'm not sure how to get around that all of the time, but I'll try.  I could experience bleeding maybe if the clot comes out.
Shannon, maybe you aren't so nauseous because of the Zofran.  It's working.  My sister had two good ones and the third was always small and "struggling," so don't worry.  When it stopped developing, it was so small still that it basically disappeared throughout the duration of her pregnancy.  She had been so overwhelmed about 3 that 2 turned out to be perfect for her.

I'll let you know my numbers later, but for now, we've got ONE.

Have a great day!
Linda

by SMA827, Jun 05, 2008 09:18AM
To: Linda0305
I know it is scary, at my office it has always been a Doctor due the ultrasound. Not a tech and not my doctor. I have had three done by a different doctor.  I have a call in now to my office, because I am freaking my self out over not feeling anything now.  

Well at least there is one for sure  and possibly two. At least not 8!!!  If you are feeling anything like I am then it seems like just when one appointment arrives then you start the waiting game again.  

I am very happy for and will check in later to see what happens when they call you.
Shannon

by Linda0305, Jun 05, 2008 11:54AM
To: Shannon
Well, they didn't get my blood test results back before they closed today at noon, so I have to wait until tomorrow morning.

Did you hear back from the doctor's office?

Linda

by mommywanabe, Jun 05, 2008 12:10PM
To: All

Hi ladies just want to say sorry for any BFN that have been given and Congrats to all that have gotten BFP.  I also had a NEG on monday.  I was so sure that this was going to work but I guess god has other plans for me.  Anyway I was wondering whether or not to try IUI?  Has anyone ever done IVF first, had it failed then went on to IUI (are they even successful)?  It's kind of weird because it is usually the other way around.  Please help because I have an appointment with another DR that a good friend of mine recommended.  I am not sure if I should go through with the IUI or just wait and do the IVF again at a later time.

by gaauri, Jun 05, 2008 03:28PM
To: bimkim
Congrats!!! This 2ww is really the longest period a woman has to go through..it seems like decade. I recently got my first ET on the 1st June. As you had your IVF too maybe you can help me with some information. Did you had any discharges after ET? Cause on day 2 and day 3 I had pale yellow discharge which really made me worried.  And today I am in day forth...GOD knows.....my husband keeps telling me to keep calm and relax myself.....Its scary.

by AGQT, Jun 05, 2008 04:32PM
To: Linda0305
Congrats on one and hopefully two if that's what you and your hubby want.  Sorry that you are having to wait until tomorrow for the results....I know that's an awful feeling.  Hang in there!!
I'm still waiting for my 1st preg test, so be glad you have already passed that point with good results.

I wish everyone the best of luck and pray that GODs will is that we ALL get to enjoy a healthy 9 month pregnancy and a wonderful healthy beautiful baby(s) at the end of it!!!!

TO Momywanabe:
During my monitoring for IVF....I spoke with many women about what they had been thru and were going thru.  Two women had IUIs before IVF.  One of them had 11 IUIs before going to IVF and the other had done 7 IUIs before IVF....neither one had gotten pregnant.  What I got from them is that IUIs are cheaper, so doctors like to try them first if that is an option for the couple....but I really don't know!  Thought this information may help you....but I would for sure talk to your doctor about all of your options.  
Good Luck with whatever you decide!

by Linda0305, Jun 06, 2008 08:17AM
To: All
AGQT, you are so right.  To at least have gotten past the 2WW with a positive result is awesome.  If you don't reach that peak you don't have any of the other issues afterwards.  Shannon was also so right when she said that once you complete the wait for one thing you have another for something else!  With infertility it is so different.  Most women at this stage either don't know that their pregnant yet, so they aren't concerned so much with increasing Hcg numbers and ultrasound results, etc.  I'm not complaining.  I'm simply not at all yet comfortable to the point of letting down my guard.  I hope to be able to feel that way after 12 weeks.
I did get my latest numbers, and my beta is now 8076.  So maybe the doctor is right about that possible second one??????  We'll see.  I'm in another 1 week wait.

Have a great day everyone.  Linda

by AGQT, Jun 06, 2008 09:15AM
To: Linda0305
That's awesome!!  I know you aren't complaining....we are all scared and afraid to get too excited.  Believe me I know.  We all want this so bad and it's very hard to only think about the good....there are so many possibilities that could crush our hopes and dreams.  I completely understand, along with everyone that is going through IVF.  We do not have any control over what happens, so it's very understandable.  Hang in there....you have only had positives so far, so let's hope and pray that it continues!!!

by gaauri, Jun 06, 2008 11:10AM
To: all
I wish someone can answer my worries. recently got my first ET on the 1st June. can help me with some information. Did you had any discharges after ET? Cause everyday since then in evening I get pale yellow discharge which really makes me worry.  GOD knows.....my husband keeps telling me to keep calm and relax myself.....Its scary.

by SMA827, Jun 06, 2008 11:54AM
To: Linda 0305
Linda, That sounds like fantastic news to me.  I am so happy for you.  I ended up at my Doctor today because of the bleeding that I had several days ago and then the fact that my nausea suddenly went away 2 days ago, which I freaked out.  Well needless to say everything is fine not fine great.  Two heartbeats that were perfect today.  My Doc is releasing me to my obgyn.  I have not meet him but my ivf doc referred him to me, so I go on the 18 th. I feel so much better knowing everything was okay.  

Gaauri-  I have had discharge almost everyday since my transfer.  Somedays it is yellowish and has even been browinsh at times.  I am 7weeks 5 days and as of today my Doctor said everything is fine and that some women just have alot of discharge. He said it is most likely comming from the Uterus.  I won't tell you not to worry because I know you will anyway.  Because I do! :)  But try not too.  Take Care,
Shannon

by gaauri, Jun 06, 2008 12:36PM
To: shannon
thanks dear. I m keeping my fingers crossed, 13yrs of marriage and not a single pregnancy. Yesterday I cooked dinner and later felt fatigued and lower pelvic pain. Today I have slight pelvic pain on the left side running down to left leg. I just don't feel like getting up and doing anything. This 2ww is the longest period a woman has to go through. It seems like never ending and scary.....of results. This is a most beautiful site I have ever found. Good luck to you too.....keep growing!!!

by Linda0305, Jun 06, 2008 01:28PM
To: Shannon and Gaauri
Shannon,

I'm so glad to hear that all is well with your two itty bitty babies.  I don't know when I'll be "released" to go to my OB.  I asked if I could go to my regular OB, and I was told that I could since he's in the same group as the OB who's known for high risk, and if I needed him he'd be available.  I'm also glad that you're not nauseous any more.  Do you work a full time job?

Gaauri, I've read so many women on here saying that they had that discharge, so don't worry about that.  Sounds normal, and if you doubt it call your doctor and ask to see what they say.  Everything that you are experiencing is normal.  Take it easy physically even though your mind is going crazy.  

Linda

by bimkim, Jun 06, 2008 02:52PM
To: gaauri
hi guarri,
don't think that i had a discharge but from reading stuff on the net, seems that is pretty normal.
you may also be nearing the implantation period and the body is preparing for that. don't worry about it too much.
yes, the 2WW is torture. because that is the time that you feel the most fragile, don't want to lift this, want to relax, panicking if you feel something that you are not sure if you are supposed to feel or if something is going wrong. in the beginning, i did not even want to lift my laptop, that is how paranoid i was.
then when i started bleeding, i was oh so sure that it had all gone wrong.

have you spoken to your doc? have they told you whether or not it is normal?
sometimes they just more or less say, don't worry about it...let nature take its course, there is nothing you can do. which of course is not what you want to hear.
but take the advice that Angelique would have given me and try to relax as much as you can. find things to occupy your mind.
and i find that ready the stories in this forum helps to ease your mind as well, the support in here is really amazing and these ladies are very knowledgeable.
good luck. keep reading. keep asking questions..


on another note, my symptoms are not much...heartburn occasionally, sore boobs occasionally. this morning i was cleaning my teeth and gagged..but i feel fantastic for the most part.

just drinking water and increasing my calcium intake.

my first ultrasound is scheduled for thursday. i will be 6 weeks...i calculated incorrectly at the beginning of this week....duh...

good luck to all.

Linda,
i do hope there are  twins in there!!

by mysty2001, Jun 06, 2008 05:22PM
great news SMA

by gaauri, Jun 06, 2008 06:49PM
To: AGQT
you and me are sailing in the same boat. We both had our ET's on 1st June and the D date is 12th June. What are the symptoms you are feeling as of now. It's great to share as it give a lot of emotional support and answered queries. I am on day 6th today and feeling very fatigued with left side pelvic pain going to my left leg. I was overstimulated with medicines too and had to wait for a day than scheduled. On the ET day I remember doctor saying that my left side ovary is huge. Share your experience of days passing by....

by gaauri, Jun 06, 2008 09:37PM
To: ALL MY FORUM FRIENDS
I have found this while going through old forums. Hope this would be enlightling and informative
To: all
Hey ladies:

Look what out I found out on the web..This is interesting...May not be 100% for all since timing differs..

What happens after a Day 3 Transfer?

1dpt.. Embryo is growing and developing
2dpt.. Embryo is now a blastocyst
3dpt.. Blastocyst hatches out of shell on this day
4dpt.. Blastocyst attaches to a site on the uterine lining
5dpt.. Implantation begins,as the blastocyst begins to bury in the lining
6dpt.. Implantation process continues and morula buries deeper in the lining
7dpt.. Morula is completely implanted in the lining and has placenta cells & fetal cells
8dpt.. Placenta cells begin to secret HCG in the blood
9dpt.. More HCG is produced as fetus develops
10dpt.. More HCG is produced as fetus develops
11dpt.. HCG levels are now high enough to be immediately detected on HPT

by first2go, Jun 06, 2008 09:43PM
To: gaauri
Where did you find that?  Is there any information on a 5dt?  Thanks for posting, this is great information.  

by AGQT, Jun 06, 2008 11:05PM
To: gaauri
Well congrats!!!  This is your first time too, right?

I'm not really having many symptoms: No discharge, no bleeding, no pain for the most part, had cramping in the first few days (similar to period cramps), breasts are extremely sore and heavy with nipples very sensitive and hard (this was happening before transfer and doc said it was due to medications), fatigued a little in the first few days but overall I am feeling pretty good.  I think the fatigue is due to the stress and hormone fluctuations but it has been getting better.

I am nervous...but I do believe that it is strictly up to GOD!  I'm not laying on the couch; I'm trying to live life as I normally would with nothing strenous.

Waiting for Thursday is extremely hard....I just want to know NOW!  So I know exactly how you feel...try to stay busy to pass the time.  I have things planned over the next few days, so I'm hoping the time goes by faster than it has been.

I found out today that of my 13 remaining fertilized eggs that 7 made it to blastocysts and they have been frozen.  I was told that all 7 were ranked fair to good.  The doctors office said that I should be pleased because this is very good.  How bout you?

How many eggs did you have and how many were put in?  

I wish you the BEST!!!!  Keep me informed, I pray that Thursday holds a blessing for both of us!!!

by gaauri, Jun 07, 2008 08:22AM
To: AGQT
Yes this is my first one too!!!! Even my 15 eggs were retrieved but none could make for the 5th day. So I had nothing to freeze. Except light left side pelvic pain and sore boobs i have no other symptoms.But my last night was little difficult as I woke up twice with cold sweats.  My be its the pain of implantation.....I still have the pale yellow discharge..maybe because of the progesterone gel.........good to know that you have good number to freeze.......keep the faith and prayers for all our other forum members.

by Danielle501, Jun 07, 2008 03:22PM
To: hyperiongp; bimkim; SMA827
Ladies - Thanks for the feedback on the progesterone injections - very helpful.   I talked to my dr and he said that my numbers are good so I could switch to the prometrium suppositories if I chose but it was my decision.  I will be staying on them for a few more weeks!   I haven't had a chance to get online this week.  I've had terrible nausea.   On a bright note, I had my ultrasound Thursday and we found out that we're having twins!   Quite the surprise because my betas weren't obviously high but, sure enough, we saw 2 little heartbeats Thursday.  Absolutely incredible!

Bimkim & Linda - Congrats on your pregnancies!!   That is great news!

For those of you who are in the middle of the 2ww torture, hang in there and keep posting.    I didn't find this site until just a few weeks ago after my 3rd IVF attempt and wish I'd found it sooner.  It's been a wonderful means of support and very informational.

by AGQT, Jun 07, 2008 03:54PM
To: gaauri
I noticed you said progesterone gel....I am taking progesterone injections.  Your discharge may be due to the gel.  Only 5 more days to go...YAY, we're over halfway there!

by Linda0305, Jun 08, 2008 07:40PM
To: Shannon
Ok, it's my time for worry....we went for a short walk tonight, and when we got home I noticed that I was spotting.  Not lots (I wiped like three times!), but enough that I'm freaking out.  I just reread your previous posts when you were bleeding.  It's pink to red in color, and I quickly put in one of my progesterone suppositories just hoping it would help or something.  I know that my doctor's office told me that I could bleed, but when it happens it soooo frightening.  I don't have major cramping or anything, and it's not on my underwear, so I think my plan is to wait until tomorrow and call the office since it's a Sunday evening.  Oh, and I also lifted well over 20 lbs today at the grocery store, and I'll never do that again!!!!
When you bled did it stop soon after it started?

Very scared!
Linda

by SMA827, Jun 08, 2008 08:10PM
To: Linda0305
Linda,  Hello it sounds alot like mine did.  It wasn't in my underwear, just when I wiped and it did not last long and then it actually turned to a dark brownish/black color.  I know how freaked it can make you.  I had it happen twice,  once and then 2 days later it did it again. I went to the Doctor both times and both heartbeats were fine. The Doc said some women just have spotting throughout the pregnancy.  I would not panic, but call your Doctor tomorrow AM just to make sure.  I am sure it will be fine, because it sounds just like mine did. Putting in one of the Progesterone is good, they told me to take an extra shot when mine happened. Try to rest tonight and let me know what the Doctor says in the AM.  My prayers are with you.  Sorry you are going through this.  Shannon

by AGQT, Jun 08, 2008 10:33PM
To: Everyone
I am 7 dpt and today I feel like I am about to start my period.  Cramping, backaches, headache, and bloating is worse than it has been.  I feel exactly like I usually do the day before my period starts.  I haven't had any spotting or bleeding whatsoever.  I keep getting more and more nervous that it might not take.  Did anyone else experience these symptoms during their 2ww?  Thursday is the BIG day and I'm so ready for it to get here.

by hyperiongp, Jun 08, 2008 11:36PM
To: Linda
Nothing I say is going to put you at complete ease, but I like Shannon bled throughout the first 8 weeks of my pregnancy.  I like Shannon and possibly yourself am pregnant with twins.  

My first bleeding started even before my blood test to confirm pregnancy.  I knew I was pregnant because HPT had been showing positive for days.  I then bled again the day after the blood test.  I had a sonogram done at 6 weeks, which showed both babies, they looked like grains of rice, with heartbeats.  I started bleeding again at 7 1/2 weeks.  When I started bleeding then I went to urgent care and they did a sonogram and both little beans were alive and well.  

My OB/GYN explained that twins often cause more bleeding.  It sounds to me like you either have twins or had twins (sometimes one doesn't make it for unknown reasons).  My OB/GYN told me that as long as the bleeding does not soak up a normal size maxi pad to relax.  If the bleeding becomes severe head for the ER.  I do suggest you call and talk to your doctor in the morning.  You may also be bleeding because of the procedure.  I had a pelvic exam and vaginal sonogram done at 10 wks and I bled for 3 days, but my doctor warned me that I would bleed.  

I wanted to say congratulations since I had not had the chance.  I shall keep you in my prayers.  Take care.  Angelique

by hyperiongp, Jun 08, 2008 11:43PM
To: Danielle501 and AGQT
Danielle, congratulations on the twins.... My HCG levels were not real high either, and my levels doubled every 2 days like they were suppose to, nothing out of the ordinary and I am pregnant with twins.  The nausea is terrible, terrible, terrible and for me only got worse and worse, progressing to vomiting.  I have no appetite and most days eating is the last thing I want to do.  Take care.

AGQT - try not to panic, I had some premenstral symptoms and actually started bleeding on the day I was suppose to start my period.  I was scared to death.  I never had severe cramps, but I had all the other symptoms.  Don't give up hope yet, try to be strong, we are all here to help you get through this.   Take care Angelique

by gaauri, Jun 09, 2008 07:20AM
To: AGQT
My dear,

I m experiencing the same thing.....my boobs feels to be a sac of hard rocks. I do have lower back pain which doesn't allow me to sit for long Just like AF. Did you do any HPT's yet? I was advised by my doctor to drink a lots of GATORADE at least 2lts.or more a day, for bloating. Believe me it worked wonders......I hope the GOD is nice to us and bless both of us with his blessings......Keep posting.

by Linda0305, Jun 09, 2008 09:15AM
To: Shannon and Angelique
Called right away this morning (thank you by the way for your words of encouragement).  Basically the nurse said that I needed to take it easy for a few days.  I'm due to go in for my second ultrasound Thursday, but should I spot again, I'll go in earlier.  It did stop right away, and I have nothing this morning, thank God.  She then called me back to tell me that since I'm O-neg I have to go in this afternoon for a rhogam (sp?) shot since I spotted and the blood may be positive and could cause problems for me.  I'm taking their advise and am planning to lay low today.  Thankfully my husband is a school counselor and is taking the summer off to help with everything so that I don't have to push the envelope so to speak as I did yesterday, although I'll never know if the spotting was due to over exersion on my part or simply normal.
All I know is that it reaffirms how fragile it all is and that for those of us who become pregnant through infertility treatment, we must approach everything differently than most women.

gaauri and AGQT, it's your week!  I'm thinking about and praying for BOTH of you to have positive results.  Try not to focus on your symptoms as those of us on this forum have either had all of those that you mention then none at all.  It will be here before you know it!

Linda

by AGQT, Jun 09, 2008 10:17AM
To: Everyone & Gaauri
Thank you all for your words of encouragement!!!  I so needed it this morning!!!

Gaauri - I did a HPT yesterday and it showed negative.  I'm not giving up hope!!  Afterward I came and looked at your posting and it showed on 7dpt that we really aren't producing HCG yet....so I'll wait a few more days and try again.  How bout you?  I thought this week might be easier since I've had plenty to do...but it still lingers in my thoughts, so I can't quit worrying & wondering.  My husband told me last night, "This is driving me crazy....I just want to know."  LOL!  My response was, "I bet I am 100 times worse than you are."

by gaauri, Jun 09, 2008 11:55AM
To: AGQT
My dear....we both are just the same..I did it too and it came out to be negative. No hopes gone I am not at all disappointed...in fact I told my husband yesterday that we shall go out for dinner...we went and had good time together. So take a chill pill and relax...glory days are coming ahead.......I have a bad headache today with lower back pain. I cross my hands and pray for both of us.

Linda,
keep the faith...If I remember you have two adopted great kids.....now when you have been so good then God have to bless you with more goodness. The almighty will definitely protect you. My prayers....

by bimkim, Jun 09, 2008 01:47PM
To: Everyone
Hi all,

Danielle,
Congrats on your twins! That is marvellous news!
Though sorry to hear about your nausea, have read that the nausea starts a lot earlier with twins, don't know how true. Have you checked the net for solutions?
I wish I could have twins because then this would be it for me! We did not have any eggs left over to freeze. All 3 were transferred...

Linda,
No more heavy lifting!!
I am so sorry that you are spotting. Thing is, I have been spotting quite a bit myself, it is a little worrying but my thing is there is nothing further I can do about it. For a fact, I know that I am still pregnant because I took another HPT that showed positive in the first 30 seconds. My first ultrasound is on Thursday, so looking forward to that. Will see how many took.

AGQT and gauuri,
Good luck to both you guys. It sure does seem like this is the most torturous(incorrect spelling?) time of the whole cycle...the waiting game.
Just make sure you let us know as soon as you come back home! We all deserve to have little ones...
Sore boobs is a good sign!!

Take care all.
Kim

by Linda0305, Jun 09, 2008 02:41PM
To: AGQT and gauuri
I also did a HPT at 8dpt, and it showed negative, although Shannon and I both thought it was b/c I used a Dollar General test, and it was so early.  Well on the day that I found out that I was pregnant I did another one since I had a stock pile under my bathroom sink, and sure enough, it too said that I was pregnant.  So I am one who feels that HPT's don't and can't always detect the Hcg.  In the second week after ET I had headaches but that was about it.  I went to the appt. knowing that I was NOT pregnant, and I was very wrong.
Kim, thank you for reminding me to take it easy.  I just returned from getting that injection since I am Rh negative.  I feel crampy today but nothing severe and NO BLOOD!!!  Don't know if I have another test to do, but I sure didn't bleed enough to have lost anything.

Take care everyone,
Linda

by hyperiongp, Jun 09, 2008 10:59PM
To: To all
Shannon - how is the nausea, mine is still here, and I am so exhausted from it.  Tomorrow I have Jury duty.  It is going to take everything I have and then some I don't have to get up and get to the court house.

Linda - I knew the bleeding would stop (said lots of prayers).  One of the times that I started bleeding I think it was because I over exerted myself.  Who really knows, my OB/GYN tells me to do normal things.  If I did it before I was pregnant he says I can do it now.  I am still careful though.  I can't afford not to be careful...

Danielle - How do you feel ?  Twins are rough on the body, so take care of yourself.  As my first trimester ends I am now counting down to delivery.  

BimKim - congratulations...............................

Those in the 2 week wait fighting with the HPT's.  Only blood work is final, so hang in there until Thursday and don't loose hope.  Many women get negatives on the HPT only to get a positive on the blood work.  You are all in my prayers.  Take care.  

by SMA827, Jun 10, 2008 01:18PM
To: hyperiongp
Angelique,   Well my nausea is still here.  Now my insurance has refused to refill the Zofran, unless I am put on an IV. How stupid is that?  Now they are giving me "Finigin" (SP) which is suppose to make me very tired. Like  I am not tired enough.  

I do not know how you are going to court today. But good luck. Maybe it won't last long.

Also I am constipated so bad. I am eating everything recommened and nothing is working. Any suggestions? I will try anything at this point.

Take Care,  Shannon

by Linda0305, Jun 10, 2008 02:20PM
To: Shannon
I know that you weren't asking me, BUT........I have taken Phenergan for an inner ear problem which makes me very nauseous, and although it does make me tired, it helped the nausea immensely.  Aren't insurance companies so wonderful?????  Mine pays nothing on infertility, but all of the meds have been only our $10 co pay.  Go figure!  And as for the constipation, something that I've suffered from recently too, my doctor's office told me to get Surfak, made by Kaopectate. They aid that it's perfectly safe with pregnancy.  So if you may feel better asking your own doctor too.
Hope that helps, and I'm so sorry that you are having a challenging day.

Linda

by Linda0305, Jun 10, 2008 03:36PM
To: Shannon
You can tell that I typed the end of that last post without my reading glasses!!!!!!!!  Yep, I'm the Grandma of this forum!  Surfak is a stool softener recommended for constipation.  My decaf coffee seems to help somewhat if you drink coffee.

Linda

by mysty2001, Jun 10, 2008 04:30PM
SAM
phenergren is what my doc gave me - didn't work
if you can stomach a few (maybe 15 ) fat free pringles  that should loosen you up
I didn;t have any bowel movements when I was that sick - there was nothing for my bowels to process - I remember one day I had a bowel movement and thought "wow I must not have thrown up everything!"

by SMA827, Jun 10, 2008 05:32PM
To: Linda, Mysty
Thank you both for the information.  I went and bought some Dulcolax stool softner and so far it has not done anything.   Also have not taken the new prescription yet as again they would only fill 12 and since I was half way through the day.  Not to mention now that I am on progesterone pills twice a day and the vaginal cream, I feel like all I am doing is taking  medicine all day.  Oh and for the record  my stomach is starting to pooch. It is crazy that it is happening so soon, but I have heard that with twins it happens alot sooner.  Also I am going to try buying some decaff coffee. Something has to work, right?  I hope!!!

by hyperiongp, Jun 10, 2008 08:07PM
To: Shannon
I don't know who your insurance carrier is, but you need to appeal that decision.  I fear that when I go to refill my Zofran they are going to tell me the same thing.  I use to work for the insurance industry, so I know some of the inside tricks to the trade so to speak.  If the medication they are giving you does not work you need to call your insurance company and tell them that you need a denial letter and an appeals form, that the medication was perscribed by your doctor for a high risk pregnancy, and you would like to appeal the fact they denied your coverage.  

I can't imagine being any more tired or any more nauseated.  I think I would sit down and just cry.  I have made it now to week 12, with no relief from the nausea.  My doctor said it usually goes away by week 14, but he would not promise me that it would go away.  

If the constipation continues despite stool softner remedies, you need to talk to your doctor about possibly changing your prenatal vitamins to one with low iron or no iron.  Of course his willingness to do that will depend on how well your body is manufactoring blood.  My understanding though is that constipation gets worse and worse as you get further into your pregnancy.  

Take care, Angelique

by Linda0305, Jun 10, 2008 08:10PM
To: Shannon
I feel badly for you, and I'm hoping that you get some relief.  Drink as much water as your stomach will let you since you are also suffering from morning sickness.  The coffee does help me in the morning though, so give it a try.  I just said to my husband this evening that I won't know what to do when I'm not taking so much medicine every day!!  Coincidence, huh?  
I'm not at all surprised about your stomach.  Even though for me it's only one that we know of, my stomach is pooching big time, and today my husband made a comment about my chest size, although non-pregnant I am large chested.  I'm buying elastic wastebands!

Good luck tomorrow.  I hope something works for you.

Linda

by AGQT, Jun 11, 2008 05:01AM
To: Everyone
10 dpt and had negative HPT this morning.  Blood work is in the morning.  We'll see what happens.....I'm kinda worried because of the HPT and all my symptoms are pretty much gone.

by gaauri, Jun 11, 2008 08:04AM
To: ALL MY FRIENDS
Again,Look what I found for you all !!! Though it's long but very informative...ITS THE LIFE CYCLE OF AN EMBRYO FROM START. So for all my friends who recently had their FET's and the friends who are blessed with those three wonderful words "BFP"

Early Hours
Fertilization begins when a sperm penetrates an oocyte (an egg) and it ends with the creation of the zygote. The fertilization process takes about 24 hours. A sperm can survive for up to 48 hours. It takes about ten hours to navigate the female productive track, moving up the vaginal canal, through the cervix, and into the fallopian tube where fertilization begins. Though 300 million sperm may enter the upper part of the vagina, only 1%, 3 million, enter the uterus.

At 6 hours
The sperm must make the penetration of the zona pellucida, a tough membrane surrounding the oocyte. Only one sperm needs to bind with the protein receptors in the zona pellucida to trigger an enzyme reaction allowing the zona to be pierced. Penetration of the zona pellucida takes about twenty minutes.

At 1 - 5 days
Within 11 hours following fertilization, the oocyte has extruded a polar body with its excess chromosomes. The fusion of the oocyte and sperm nuclei marks the creation of the zygote and the end of fertilization. The zygote now begins to cleave, with each division occurring into two cells called blastomeres. The zygote's first cell division begins a series of divisions, with each division occurring approximately every twenty hours. Each blastomere within the zona pellucida becomes smaller and smaller with each subsequent division. When cell division ungenerated about sixteen cells, the zygote becomes a morula (mulberry shaped). It leaves the fallopian tube and enters the uterine cavity three to four days after fertilization.

At 6 days
The blastocyst hatches from the zona pellucida around the sixth day after fertilization, as the blastocyst enters the uterus. The trophoblast cells secretes an enzyme which erodes the epithelial uterine lining and creates an implantation site for the blastocyst.In a cyclical process of hormonal stimulation, the ovary is induced to continue producing progesterone while human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) is released by the trophoblast cells of the implanting blastocyst. Endometrial glands in the uterus enlarge in response to the blastocyst and the implantation site becomes swollen with new capillaries. Circulation begins - a process needed for the continuation of pregnancy.

At 12 days
Trophoblast cells engulf and destroy cells of the uterine lining creating blood pools, both stimulating new capillaries to grow and foretelling the growth of the placenta. The inner cell mass divides, rapidly forming a two-layered disc. The top layer of cells will become the embryo and amniotic cavity, while the lower cells will become the yolk sac. Ectopic pregnancies can occur at this time and sometimes continue for up to 16 weeks of pregnancy before being noticed. Diagnosed quickly, ectopic pregnancies can be treated pharmacologically without surgery, reducing danger to the mother, and preserving the site of the ectopic pregnancy.

At 15 - 18 days
The formation of blood and blood vessels of the embryo begins. The blood system appears first in the area of the placenta surrounding the embryo, while the yolk sac begins to produce hematopoietic or non-nucleated blood cells. The embryo is attached by a connecting stalk (which will later become part of the umbilical cord), to the developing placenta. A narrow line of cells appears on the surface of the embryonic disc. This primitive streak is the future axis of the embryo and it marks the beginning of gastrulation, a process that gives rise to all three layers of the embryo: ectoderm, mesoderm and endoderm.

At 19 - days
The embryonic area is now shaped like a pear, and the head region is broader than the tail end. The ectoderm has thickened to form the neural plate. The edges of this plate rise and form a concave area known as the neural groove. This groove is the precursor of the embryo's nervous system and it is one of the first organs to develop. The blood cells of the embryo are already developed and they begin to form channels along the epithelial cells which form consecutively with the blood cells

at 21 days
If you could look at the embryo from a top view, it would resemble the sole of a shoe with the head end wider than the tail end, and a slightly narrowed middle. Somites, which are condensations composed of mesoderm, appear on either side of the neural groove. The first pair of somites appear at the tail and progress to the middle. One to three pairs of somites are present. Every ridge, bump and recess now indicates cellular differentiation. A head fold rises on either side of the primitive streak. The primitive streak now runs between one-fourth to one-third of the length of the embryo. Secondary blood vessels now appear in the chorion/placenta. Hematopoietic cells appear on the yolk sac simultaneously with endothelial cells that will form blood vessels for the newly emerging blood cells. Endocardial (muscle) cells begin to fuse and form into the early embryo's two heart tubes.

at 23 - 26 days
Rapid growth and change as the embryo becomes longer and the yolk sac expands. On each side of the neural tube, between four and twelve pairs of somites can exist by the end of this stage. The cells which become the eyes appear as thickened circles just off of the neural folds. The cells of the ears are also present. Neural folds are rising and fusing at several points along the length of the neural tube concomitant with the budding somites which appear to zipper the neural tube closed. Neural crest cells will eventually contribute to the skull and face of the embryo. The two endocardial tubes formed in before fuse here to form one single tube derived from the roof of the nueral tube, which becomes S-shaped and makes the primitive heart asymmetric. As the S-shape forms, cardiac muscle contraction begins.  CONTINUED.......

by gaauri, Jun 11, 2008 08:07AM
To: MY ALL FRIENDS
at 28 - 31 days
Thirteen to twenty pairs of somites are present and the embryo is shaped in a modified S curve. The embryo has a bulb-like tail and a connecting stalk to the developing placenta. A primitive S-shaped tubal heart is beating and peristalsis, the rhythmic flow propelling fluids throughout the body, begins. However, this is not true circulation because blood vesel development is still incomplete. At this stage, the neural tube determines the form of the embryo. Although the primary blood vessels along the central nervous system are connecting, the central nervous system appears to be the most developed system. If twenty somites are present in the embryo, the forebrain is completely closed.


at 32 days
The brain differentiates into the three main parts: the forebrain, midbrain and hindbrain. The forebrain consists of lobes that translate input from the senses, and will be responsible for memory formation, thinking, reasoning, problem solving. The midbrain will serve as a relay station, coordinating messages to their final destination. The hindbrain will be responsible for regulating the heart, breathing and muscle movements.Thyroid continues to develop and the lymphatic system, which filters out bacteria, starts to form. Otic placode invaginates and forms the otic vesicle, which will develop into the structures needed for hearing and maintenance of equilibrium. Retinal disc presses outward and touches the surface ectoderm. In response the ectoderm proliferates forming the lens disc. Specific parts of the eye, such as the retina, the future pigment of the retina and the optic stalk are identifiable. Primitive mouth with a tongue is recognizable. Thyroid continues to develop and the lymphatic system, which filters out bacteria, starts to form. Heart chambers are filled with plasma and blood cells making the heart seem distended and prominent. The heart and liver combined are equal in volume to the head by this stage. Blood circulation is well established, though true valves are not yet present.. The villous network is in place to accommodate the exchange of blood between the woman and the embryo. Aortic arches 4 and 6 develop and 5 may appear. Lung buds continue to form. Gall bladder, stomach, intestines, pancreas continue to form and the metanephric bud appears in the chest cavity. The stomach is in the shape of a spindle and the pancreas may be detected at the intestinal tube. The developing liver receives blood from the placenta via the umbilical cord. The amnion encloses the connecting stalk helping to fuse it with the longer and more slender umbilical vesicle (the remnant of the yolk sac). Upper limb buds are visible as ridges and the lower limb buds begin to develop. Folding is complete and the embryo is now three-dimensional and is completely enclosed in the amniotic sac. The somites will be involved in building bones and muscles. The first thin surface layer of skin appears covering the embryo.

at 35 days
The brain and head grow rapidly. The mandibular and hyoid arches are noticeable. Ridges demarcate the three sections of the brain (midbrain, forebrain and hindbrain). The spinal cord wall at this stage contains three zones: the ventricular, the mantle and the marginal. The ventricular zone will form neurons, glial cells and ependymal cells, the intermediate mantle will form neuron clusters and the marginal zone will contain processes of neurons. Adenohypophyseal pouch, which will develop into the anterior pituitary, is defined. Lens vesicle opens to the surface and is nestled within the otptic cup. Otic vesicle increases its size by approximately one-fourth and its endolymphatic appendage is more defined. Nasal plate can be detected by thickened ectoderm. Esophagus, the tube through which food is swallowed, forms from a groove of tissue that separates from the trachea, which is also visible. Semilunar valves begin to form in the heart. Four major subdivisions of the heart (the trabeculated left and right ventricles, the conus cords and the truncus arteriosus) are clearly defined. Two sprouts, a ventral one from the aortic sac and a dorsal one from the aorta, form the pulmonary (sixth aortic) arch. Right and left lung sacs lie on either side of the esophagus. Ureteric bud appear. Metanephros, which will eventually form the permanent kidney, is developing. Upper limbs elongate into cylindrically-shaped buds, tapering at tip to eventually form hand plate. Nerve distribution process, innervation, begins in the upper limbs.  CONTINUED....

by gaauri, Jun 11, 2008 08:08AM
To: ALL YM FRIENDS
at 35 days
The brain and head grow rapidly. The mandibular and hyoid arches are noticeable. Ridges demarcate the three sections of the brain (midbrain, forebrain and hindbrain). The spinal cord wall at this stage contains three zones: the ventricular, the mantle and the marginal. The ventricular zone will form neurons, glial cells and ependymal cells, the intermediate mantle will form neuron clusters and the marginal zone will contain processes of neurons. Adenohypophyseal pouch, which will develop into the anterior pituitary, is defined. Lens vesicle opens to the surface and is nestled within the otptic cup. Otic vesicle increases its size by approximately one-fourth and its endolymphatic appendage is more defined. Nasal plate can be detected by thickened ectoderm. Esophagus, the tube through which food is swallowed, forms from a groove of tissue that separates from the trachea, which is also visible. Semilunar valves begin to form in the heart. Four major subdivisions of the heart (the trabeculated left and right ventricles, the conus cords and the truncus arteriosus) are clearly defined. Two sprouts, a ventral one from the aortic sac and a dorsal one from the aorta, form the pulmonary (sixth aortic) arch. Right and left lung sacs lie on either side of the esophagus. Ureteric bud appear. Metanephros, which will eventually form the permanent kidney, is developing. Upper limbs elongate into cylindrically-shaped buds, tapering at tip to eventually form hand plate. Nerve distribution process, innervation, begins in the upper limbs.

at 42 days
s the brain has increased in size by one-third since the last stage, it is still larger than the trunk. Rostral neuropore is closed and four pairs of pharyngeal arches are visible now, though the fourth one is still quite small. The maxillary and mandibular prominence of the first arch are clearly delineated. The stomodeum, the depression in the ectoderm which will develop into the mouth and oral cavity, appears between the prominent forebrain and the fused mandibular prominence.Swellings of the external ear begin to appear on both sides of the head, formed by the mandibular arch. Lens pit has closed, retinal pigment may appear in the external layer of the optic cup and lens fibers form the lens body. Two symmetrical and separate nasal pits may appear as depressions in the nasal disc. Esophagus lengthens. Blood flow through the atrioventricular canal is divided into left and right streams, which continue through the outflow tract and aortic sac. The left ventricle is larger than the right and has a thicker wall. Lobar buds appear in the bronchial tree. The intestine lengthens. Ureteric bud lengthens and its tip expands, thus beginning the formation of the final and permanent set of kidneys. Distinct regions of the handplate, forearm, arm and shoulder may be discerned in the upper limb bud. Lower limb bud begins to round at top and tip of its tapering end will eventually form the foot. Innervation, the distribution of nerves, begins in the lower limb buds. The relative width of the trunk increases from the growth of the spinal ganglia, the muscular plate and the corresponding mesenchymal tissues.

at 44 days
Brain is well marked by its cerebral hemispheres. The hindbrain, which is responsible for heart regulation, breathing and muscle movements, begins to develop. Future lower jaw, the first part of face to be established, is now visible while future upper jaw is present, but not demarcated. Mesenchymal cells originating in the primitive streak, the neural crest and the prechordal plate, continue to form the skull and the face. External retina pigment is visible and the lens pit has grown into a D shape. Nasal pits are still two separate plates, but they rotate to face ventrally as head widens. Primary cardiac tube separates into aortic and pulmonary channels and the ventricular pouches deepen and enlarge, forming a common wall with their myocardial shells. Mammary gland tissue begins to mature. The mesentery, which attaches the intestines to the rear abdominal wall, holds them in position and supplies them with blood, nerves and lymphatics, is now clearly defined. Ureter, the tube that will convey urine from the kidney to the bladder, continues to lengthen. Proliferation of the coelomic epithelium indicates the gonadal primordium. Hand region of upper limb bud differentiates further to form a central carpal part and a digital plate. The thigh (rostrolateral part), leg (the caudomedial part) and foot areas can be distinguished in the lower limb buds.

at 46 days
Jaw and facial muscles are now developing. The nasofrontal groove becomes distinct and an olfactory bulb (sense of smell) forms in the brain. Auricular (ear) hillocks become recognizable. The dental laminae or teeth buds begin to form. The pituitary, which is the master gland responsible for growth of hormones that regulate other glands, such as the thyroid, adrenal glands, gonad) begins to form.Trachea, the larynx and the bronchi begin to form. The heart begins to separate into four chambers. The diaphragm, the tissue that separates the chest cavity from the abdomen, forms. Intestines begin to develop within the umbilical cord and will later migrate into the abdomen when the embryo's body is large enough to accommodate them. Primitive germ cells arrive at the genital area and will respond to genetic instructions to develop into either female or male genitals. Digital rays in appear in the foot plates and finger rays are more distinct. Trunk becomes straighter.

at 51 days
Nerve plexuses begin to develop in the region of the scalp. Eyes are pigmented and eyelids begin to develop and may fold. Within the heart, the trunk of the pulmonary artery separates from the trunk of the aorta. Nipples appear on the chest. Body appears more like a cube. Kidneys begin to produce urine for the first time. Genital tubercle, urogenital membrane and anal membrane appear. The critical period of arm development ends, and the arms are at their proper location, roughly proportional to the embryo. However, the hand plates are not finished, but develop further in the next two days. The wrist is clearly visible and the hands already have ridges or notches indicating the future separation of the fingers and the thumbs. Ossification of the skeleton begins.

by gaauri, Jun 11, 2008 08:38AM
To: AGQT
My love,

I did a HPT yesterday and it came out negative. I didn't try it today...... Even my symptoms have almost gone except headache and back pain as ig my AF is to come. Offically today is my AFday......but as I am on progesterone gel....their might be a delay.
So tomorrow what time you have to go for blood test. I have to be there at 930.....and evening .......our hormones will decide our fate.....lol... Take care and be optimist. Life is wonderful...full of surprises...

by AGQT, Jun 11, 2008 10:40AM
To: gaauri
Not a specific time...I go to the hospital which is right next door to my house.  Fertility clinic is 3.5 hours away, so I'm having the tests run at the local hospital.  They are open 24/7, so I figure I'll be over there at 4:30 or 5:00 in morning. LOL. I'll post tomorrow when I get the results!!  Take care!

by bimkim, Jun 12, 2008 09:12AM
To: Everyone
Hello all,

Just to let you guys know, just back from my 1st scan..Saw the heartbeat...it was amazing!!!! We were hoping for a twin but one healthy child is just as good.

Now I anxiously await the news from AGQT and gauuri!!
Hope they both have good news.
Have a good day everyone.

by Linda0305, Jun 12, 2008 12:13PM
To: All
Bimkim, we just got home from our appt., and we too just saw and heard the heartbeat.  I'm 6 wks. 5 days, how about you?  My est. due date is Jan. 31st.  I also have two "unexplained" things inside the gestational sac.  The doctor doesn't know if it could have been the beginings of a second and third or what.  He said that he's not worried but concerned which didn't provide me any relief from my daily worrying.  I will go back in another week before they release me to a high risk ob/gyn.
Shannon, I experienced a bit of morning sickness today for the first time.  Not fun, but I feel ok now.  I don't know if yours came on slowly or like gang busters, but it went away after I ate.  I didn't exactly eat dinner last night b/c I had to work, so I think that that was what did it.

I am anxiously awaiting word on gaauri and AGQT too!!!  Been thinking about you both all day!

Linda

by AGQT, Jun 12, 2008 12:21PM
To: Everyone
Thanks for thinking of me and gaauri....I am waiting for the results.  I am so nervous that I just want to cry.  It will break my heart if it doesn't happen...but I know that I have 7 blastocysts to try a couple more times (if financially possible - no insurance coverage AT ALL).  I'm praying and waiting.  Will let you know the results later.  Thanks for all your support!!!

by SMA827, Jun 12, 2008 12:25PM
To: Bimkim, Linda0305
That is such a beautiful thing to see those little hearts beating and to know that they are growing inside of you.  Congratulation to you both.

Linda, If your Doc did not seem to worried then I would try not to worry. If it were something more serious, I am sure he would have wanted to do more tests.  The nausea did start a little slow and then progressed to worse.  I am just so tired all the time too. I mean exausted. But still happy that I am pregnant.

Take Care, Shannon

by melissa121303, Jun 12, 2008 12:29PM
To: everyone
I'm new to the board...just found it.   My ET was June 2, 23 eggs...18 fertlized...2 were txfred and only 3 got to be frozen.  Txfr day was June 5, and blood test day is MONDAY.  I'm so anxious I can't stand it.  I want to take a HPT...but if its neg I'll be devasated so I haven't.  I have sore boobs...but that has been a constant since the trigger shot.  Nausea for the last 2 days...but that could be explained by how wound up I am!  Headaches and a neverending backache...but that is to be explained by the progesterone.  A lot of cramping but nothing horrible...just cramping..  AF isnt due till the 23rd or so....  no bleeding no spotting nothing.    This is our first IVF, but we've been trying for 4yrs with 18 rounds (total) of clomid and femara.  

I just really want someone to hold my hand and tell me that it will be a BFP!! haha
Melissa

by AGQT, Jun 12, 2008 01:23PM
To: Everyone
Well.....bad news!!  They didn't take.  So I am having a really bad day.  The doc said we could retry w/ a FET in Sept.  That helps a little...but I wanted this to happen SO BAD!!!

GOOD LUCK TO ALL WHO WERE SUCCESSFUL AND ANYONE ELSE THAT IS IN THEIR 2WW...I will be thinking and praying for each and every one of you!!!  

Thanks for all the support that you provided me through this website...it was extremely helpful and comforting!!  I'll be checking in to see how everyone is holding up!  Good wishes to all!

by gaauri, Jun 12, 2008 01:47PM
To: AGQT
I don't want to start by saying "sorry" because you are lucky to have few to freeze and moreover at blastocysts stage which even have more chances ........sometimes the body is just not ready for this...... Be strong and look forward to what you have in store.

I am still waiting on my results which I have my doubts.....nurse didn't looked very promising...when I spoke to her about the HPT coming negative. I really do not want to take the call....Bad thing is that I didn't even had any to freeze ........and finances to go for..................another. best thing is that we have so many forums friends holding hands together and beside.

Take care ..........

by Linda0305, Jun 12, 2008 02:14PM
To: AGQT
There really aren't words to say right now other than I know exactly how you feel b/c I was there five years ago.  I was so disappointed and felt like my dreams were crushed.  We had NOTHING to freeze, and for us, adoption was the solution that resulted in our first baby (4months 3 wks. old when we got her).  
So allow yourselves to feel every emotion involved in this news.  You'll be glad that you did, and you are certainly entitled to it as you've just spent the last two weeks hoping with all of your being that you'd have a positive result.  
As gaauri said, you fortunately were able to freeze your embryos which has to be comforting now that you have your results.  In September should you decide to do a FET you'll be a stronger woman with a whole new mindset.

Take care, and I pray that you find comfort in knowing that God has a plan for you.

Linda

by AGQT, Jun 12, 2008 03:36PM
To: Linda & gaauri
Thanks so much for your kind and encouraging words!!  I'm doing OK....just very disappointed!  
My husband left work early to come and be with me and that means so....much.  He held me and kissed me and told me how sorry he was.  Something I needed more than anything.  We have also decided to try again with FET in September, so he is backing me 100%.  My day is getting better and I know that GOD knows what is best and exactly when the right time is.

gaauri...Hoping and praying for GOOD results!!!

by gaauri, Jun 12, 2008 05:12PM
To: AGQT, LINDA AND ALL MY FORUM FRIENDS
I told you AGQT, we are sailing in the same boat. My results also come negative.....God may have something better.......I would like to thanks all my friends for their support and encouragements. Best of luck and my dear, good husbands are rare species in the world.....we are lucky to have them. Just go for the next shot in September and I am sure  you will b blessed..........My journey is OVER!!!!

THANKS GUYS AND BEST OF LUCK....YOU WILL NOT SEE ME IN THE FORUM ...FROM NOW..............BYE AND LOVE AND KISSES TO YOU ALL...YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GREAT!!!!!

by mysty2001, Jun 12, 2008 06:10PM
congrats to you two with heartbeats

you two with negatives - I know it is hard - I have been there - when I got my positive then miscarried in september I remember saying it would have been so much easier to take if it had just been a negative (that is my words or encouragemnt to you)

but a bigger word is this -  I didn;t get pregnant in september.  I applied for adopting embies at a different agency - and here I am pregnant with twins
It does happen
I wish you so much luck

by gaauri, Jun 12, 2008 07:02PM
To: mysty2001
Thanks dear.....you are absolutely right....getting pregnant and losing it is harder than just not having it....put some light on adopting the embies....is that expensive?? It sounds good..maybe I will go for this....all geared up for more.......this heart wants more.....and I am ready for it.

Keep growing and all the best!!!

by mysty2001, Jun 12, 2008 07:44PM
In my experience it has not been expensive
I registered through a private agency (that was 300 dollars plus costs if you get embies)  I didn;t like that route

At my doctor here in town - there is no cost at all for the adoption - when they have embies you get to pick and your choices are in order or who was waiting longest gets first pick etc.  Last time I was top of the list and had lots to choose from (that was after only waiting a few months - before that I got some just not top choice)  cost was two thousand six hundred for the transfer

Where I went last time.  Cooper center in Marlton New Jersey - they have SOOOOOOo  many embies that you can move up on the list fast (unless you are super picky)  I got mine from the first list they sent right after I applied.  The cost is 250.00. (total thats it)  They charge for a transfer around 2500.oo also.  There are two hidden fees.  - If you want them to monitor your numbers and pregnancy for the first 13 weeks it is a flat rate of 375.00 - i opted not to do that so my total cost was under three thousand.  I got seven embryos.  They picked the best two and one not so great (a little fragmented) and I am pregnant with twins

There is also a national embry adoption program out of kentuckey (or maybe tennessee)  you have to be married to qualify - they have NO waiting list

I wish you the best of luck

Going adopted embryos makes you feel so good knowing you made a difference

keep us posted

by AGQT, Jun 12, 2008 08:10PM
To: gaauri
I don't know if you'll read this, but I am truly sorry.  I wish you and your husband the best and can only HOPE & PRAY that this is NOT the end!!!  We only have two more tries with the blastocysts that we have left.  I hope that sometime in the future another option will open up for you and your husband.  Only time will tell for the both of us!!!  Take care and wishing you only the best!!

by gaauri, Jun 13, 2008 09:22AM
To: AGQT & MYSTY
This forum is addictive.....thanks for the information. I live in Florida and I have to meet the doctor next week.....let's see what he has to offer. Indeed ...there are few issues I need to speak to him about.

AGQT: Best of luck. Where do you live....You will definitely get positive on your second try. Take care!!!

by mysty2001, Jun 13, 2008 09:31AM
To: gauri
funny you say you livein florida.  After my transfer we drove to florida  (course thats a big state - we went to orlando)  but that does tell me it is doable for you if you want to try cooper center
I wish you all the best

by AGQT, Jun 13, 2008 03:38PM
To: gaauri
I live in the southeast corner of Missouri, a very small town.  Which is why I drive 3.5 hours to the fertility clinic in St. Louis.  Not many choices around here.

I'm open minded about the next couple of tries....hopefully one of them will take, but that's only if it's meant to be.  I know what you mean when you say end of the road.  We can't afford another complete round of invitro, so if it doesn't work in the next couple of tries...then we can't do anymore.  The first round took almost all of our savings, so I am very grateful that we can scrape buy and pay for the FET in September.

I wish everyone lots of happiness!!

by readyjessie, Jun 14, 2008 11:23PM
To: everyone
Hi everybody! I am now in the 2WW also. We did the FET this past Tuesday. Dr. said embryos looked great, and was I sure I wanted to transfer 3, as the risk for triplets was increased since the embryos looked so good. We went ahead and said yes to 3, so hopefully at least 1 will take. I don't think my body can take 3, as I am under 5 feet tall!
But, I know God will take care of me if it is 3, as he has gotten me this far! I am going on the 23rd for blood test. I am fighting with my own will about taking a hpt next week. Someone please talk me out of it, as I know I should wait till the blood test, but I am dying to know before the 23rd!!!
Jessica

by gen2524, Jun 15, 2008 04:17PM
To: All
Hello ladies. I am new to IVF and this post. My prayers are with you all, believing that God will bless you with healthy pregnancies and comfort those of you whose blessings have been delayed, BUT NOT DENIED. I am in the 2WW, looking to get my blood test June 17th. My transfer was June 6th; two embroyos transferred. I have dull headaches and had severe cramps last night that last about five minutes, but no blood.

I've read through many of the forums and landed here because I feel the love and FAITH. Hear our prayers oh Lord for healthy pregnancies, babies, and mothers. May peace envelope us all as we await God's perfect will for our lives.

by Danielle501, Jun 15, 2008 07:58PM
To: hyperiongp; bimkim; mysty2001
Kim and Angelique - Thanks for the congrats on the twins.  Unfortunatley, I had another ultrasound last week and there's just one baby now.    After doing some research this week, I now know that it's very common for vanishing twin to occur with IVF since ultrasounds are done so early but it was still a blow.  The great news is that the other baby is doing just fine so we are thriled and feel absolutely blessed about that!   Heartbeat was still very strong and my dr told me not to worry at all - these things just sometimes happen.   As for me, I'm still feeling pretty nauseous every day and am really tired.   I hate to complain though.   This is what I've been hoping and praying for for so long so I'm just trying to suck it up!

I did have a scare this weekend though.   We were staying at an old lake cottage with a steep, narrow staircase.   My big baby of a dog was too scared to go down the stairs so I was carrying him down and I fell.   I broke the fall with my arm and landed on my butt - pretty much just slid the whole way down but it scared me to death.   I didn't have any bleeding or anything so I think I'm fine but I'm going to call my dr tomorrow anyway.

Mysty - That is great info you shared too.   That was going to be our next step if this IVF didn't result in pregnancy.   Fortunately, 3rd time was the charm for us but that's good info to have.   I say it every time I'm on here but I just love this site.   There are so many great girls with so much knowledge on this site!

by Linda0305, Jun 17, 2008 08:29AM
To: All
Ok, we're all busy or something since no posts are being made.  I'm just very sluggish/tired these days, hence my not posting.  But I have been logging on and reading all new posts, and I am aware that a couple of you are getting your results....gen2524, isn't yours today????  You'll have to let us know what you find out.  And Melissa, welcome to the board.  I've been wanting to write that forever, but like I said, I've had no energy to do much as of late.
Shannon and Angelique I have also been wondering how both of you are doing.  Shannon, have you gone to the new doctor?  Are you feeling ok?  You were having such problems in your last post.

Danielle, you're with me on the one baby.  Sorry to hear that, and wow, what a scare with falling down the steps!  That's been my biggest fear too. Doing something that would harm the baby.

Ok, gotta try and go do something.

Take care,
Linda

by SMA827, Jun 17, 2008 02:43PM
To: Linda0305 and all
Linda,  sounds like I am in the same arena with you.  I am exausted, I too have been reading everyone's post, but have had no energy to type back.  I am struggling to find energy to do the smallest things around the house.

I went to my new Doctor today. I liked him and his staff very much.  They did a sonogram and both babies were good. Moving their little arms and legs around alot!!  It was so wonderful. They gave me my referal to ROCK. Which is a high risk facitlity. I go there on the 3rd of July. So now I wait again.  Still feeling nauseated all the time. Even taking the prescriptions.  

Danielle, I too am very sorry to hear off your loss of one. You sound like you are keeping a positive attitude and that is wonderful. You are very blessed.  We have some good friends that were pregnant with twins and they too lost one, then when they went to do the amnio is showed Downs syndrome. They were very scared, but after more testing it was revealed that the one that disappeared was the one with downs. She gave birth to the other one and wow she is beautiful and fine. My point being God has his reasons, though we might not understand them. We just have to trust them.  My prayers are with you and all the women going through this.
Shannon

by hyperiongp, Jun 17, 2008 11:53PM
To: All
I apologize for not posting lately, but I feel so ill everyday and I take anti-nausea meds every single day, twice a day.  I too lack any energy and the hot weather here in Southern California is not helping me one bit.  I have horrible acid indigestion coupled with the nausea.  My doctor concerned because my weight is going down and not up, and I am 13 weeks today.

Gaauri
- I hope you actually stay in touch with the forum, while you explore options.  Embryo adoption may be a possiblity, as it is significantly cheaper.  You wouldn't have to pay for medications, besides progesterone and maybe estrogen, and they only charge for the transfer.  The embryos should be free.  I have 5 frozen emy's and if my husband and I decide that we have our hands full with twins, then we have already decided to allow them to be adopted.  Don't give up hope, and I wish you the absolute best of luck, and I still pray that you will one day get the family that you desire.  

AGQT
-I wish you the best of luck in Sept with your FET.  I know that the BFN hurts badly, but keep a positive attitude that one of your little frozen emy's will do the job.  Keep us posted, because Sept is just around the corner.  

Danielle
-I worried for weeks about the vanishing twin syndrome.  With every sonogram I anxiously awaited the tech finding both heart beats.  I told myself over and over again that if one of them disappeared there was a reason, and I had to grieve my loss, accept it and then focus on the live and healthy baby.  I know it had to be a shock for you, I also know that after all you have gone through you are thankful for the baby that you have.  

Linda
-The doctor saw something in the gestational sac of the healthy baby?  If he said he was not worried I am going to tell you to try and relax, but I know that realistically you are going to worry.  It appears you are being closely monitored.  Congratulations on making it to the 6 week mark.  

Shannon
- I feel for you and the ongoing nausea.  I take medication everyday, twice a day with little relief.  My stomach is in a constant state of discomfort.  I am 13 weeks today and my abdomen is hard and round like I am 5 month pregnant.  I am tired constantly, exhausted is a better word, but I am so uncomfortable when I sleep that I never get a restful night.  It feels like my uterus has expanded and my stomach muscles and skin are struggling to keep up, thus everything feels tight.  When I lay down it is worse.  That coupled with the nausea and heartburn all day and all night is not making this journey fun, but everyday I count my lucky stars I am pregnant.  I go back and see my OB/GYN on July 1 for my second visit.  Everyday I hope the nausea leaves but something tells me it is not happening.

New to the Forum - I would like to welcome the new people.  For those in the 2 week wait hand in there, and I am praying for you.  We all anxiously wait the post with the outcome of your results.  I wish you the best of luck, take care.  

Angelique  


by readyjessie, Jun 18, 2008 07:59AM
To: everyone
OH MY GOSH!!!  Ok, yesterday was just 1 week since the FET, and I couldn't stand it anymore. I did a HPT, and it is a BIG FAT POSITIVE!!!!
I called the nurse to find out if there is anything that I am taking that could cause it to be a false positive, and she called me back and said she consulted with all the doctors, and there is nothing that I am taking that could cause that. She said that as of now, I am pregnant!  I have taken another test just to see the positive come up again, and I am SO trying to keep calm until Monday when I go for the blood test, but I can't help myself! I have gone from scared about it being negative to being scared about the possiblity of multiples, or at least 3. I am so short......
But, if this is God's will, then it's his will, and He will take care of me....still....so scary!
SO, I don't want to jinx myself by writing it but I am....BFP:)
Good luck to all!
Jessica

by Linda0305, Jun 18, 2008 01:53PM
To: Jessica
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!  I'm sure that the nurse told you that if the HPT was positive, then you ARE PREGNANT!  Congratulations.  That is so great.  Monday will be here before you know it, and they'll more than likely have to wait from there to do a sonogram to tell you how many implanted.  You can now rest easy about the negative results.  It's such a great feeling too.

You are so right about God's will.  He knows exactly what your body can and can't handle, so have faith.

Congratulations again!!!

Linda

by Pat_11, Jun 18, 2008 06:22PM
To: Everyone
I am new to this forum and would like some sharing, experiences and support from you gals.

My blood test is suppose to be this coming Friday but I was eager and did a HPT, negative..ughh.. Does it mean no pregnancy?

On and off I also felt this lower back cramping as if my menstual is coming. No spotting yet..

Any advice someone?

Thanks.  

by hoping_for_a_baby, Jun 19, 2008 04:57AM
To: Everyone
Hi I am new to this form, i am 23 yrs and had my 3rd ivf done (2 wew unsuccessful) . i had embryo tranfer on the 3rd of June and i started vleeding on the 9th of June (bleeding was light but i remained for four days), i had a blood test done on the 16th of June and it was negative... Can it be false negative or does it me that i am  not pregnant... I am really really upset... pls somebody help :(

by Hugo716, Jun 19, 2008 10:21AM
To: All
Just checking if this works?

by Hugo716, Jun 19, 2008 10:27AM
To: All
Sorry about the last posting, but I couldn't make it work before.  I am writing first of all to say congrats to all of you that have finally gotten pregnant and my prayers are with those of you that haven't yet.

I have had 5 iui's and 1 failed attempt at ivf so far.  I just recently, 6/13 went through a fet.  I had two grade 1 embryos left and that is what they transferred.  

All of the failed attempts before I have had cramping, lower back pain and hip pain.  I would also start my period before I even had the test.

This time is different, not much pain.  I have always told myself that I will feel different when I get pregnant.  

Any suggestions?  I kinda want to take a test, but the other part of me is telling me not to.  I have my blood teswt 1 week from yeasterday, the 25th.  Did anyone else have pain with negatives and no pain with a positive??

Annie

by Pat_11, Jun 19, 2008 10:40AM
To: Annie
Wait for the blood test. It's too early to tell with home pregnancy test. I did mine yesterday, and I am not suppose to as the urine won't be present for the preganancy hormone as advice by my nurse.

I am having my blood test tomorrow...can't wait.

Wish you luck too!

by Pat_11, Jun 19, 2008 10:47AM
To: Gen2524
Your message caught my attention because we happened to have the same transfer date on 6/6. I am surprised you already had your blood test. Mine is tomorrow.
Wish you the best !

by Linda0305, Jun 19, 2008 07:54PM
To: All
Shannon and Angelique, I am just so sorry that both of you are so sick!  Every time I read your posts I feel horrible for you, and I'm praying that it goes away soon.
I went for my third ultrasound today, and the baby looks great.  The heartbeat went up to 140, and the two "mystery bubbles" have vanished!!!  We were "released" to our new OB whom we'll meet on July 3rd.  It was said leaving their office as we've become so close to the entire staff over the last four months.  I plan to visit, and I don't know what yet, but I'm going to take something in for everyone to show our appreciation for helping us to reach this awesome milestone.
I know that you 2WWaiters are dying to do those HPT's, and I just caution you.  I did one I believe at 8 days past transfer and got a BFN, and look at me now!  If you can, wait.  Symptoms vary so much too.  I seriously didn't feel much at all the second week of the wait and was SURE that it didn't work.  Hang in there and prayers to all of you because I know that you want this soooo badly.

Linda

by hyperiongp, Jun 19, 2008 10:21PM
To: Linda
I am very thankful that the two bubbles are gone leaving you with your healthy little bean.  My fertility doctor released me at 6 weeks (as soon as he found that there were twins) to my OB/GYN, he knew that was in my best interest.  I had been seeing him and the staff since last September (numerous medical problems kept being discovered and they had to be corrected, hence the delay of 6 months).  They were so kind and accomodating, it was sad leaving.  I am going to have a 3D/4D sonogram done in a couple of weeks and I will send them a picture and maybe some flowers or gift basket.  I love my OB/GYN though he took care of all the medical problems that kept springing up, so he is not new to me.  Fortunately for me, my assigned hospital is a major university teaching hospital, it has the main hospital and the children's hospital, so I did not have to change OB/GYN's, as my hospital has a state of the art NICU in case my babies come early.  

Well I don't think the nausea is over going away, my appetite has improved some, but not enough.  Nights are the worst for me.  First off my belly is already in the way and sleeping comfortably is out of the question.  Second the nausea comes at 1am, 2am, 3am, it really has no preference, but nights are awful.  If I am going to actually throw up it will be at night.  I just think if I can only handle this for 20 more weeks I will be doing okay.  Some days I don't think I can do it, but then I think I don't have a choice.  

Anyways I am very happy to hear that your little baby is doing better, and that his/her heartrate is up.  Take care.  Angelique

by Linda0305, Jun 21, 2008 08:16AM
To: Angelique
Thank you so much.  I was out of town yesterday (very hard on my body!), so I just read your post.  I pray that you won't have 20 more weeks of nausea.  Let's hope that it goes away soon.

My worst time is in bed too, except it's this horrible stomach ache that comes on, and by morning it is so uncomfortable that I can't sleep.  
Hard to explain.  At first putting a pillow between my legs as I lay on my side helped, but not today.  It feels like all of my internal organs are pushing upward causing discomfort.  It's bizarre.  It started about a week ago, and I get it every night.

Also, yesterday I drove to Indianapolis, a 2+ hour drive one way for a 6 hour conference, and I sat all day.  I was so uncomfortable on the drive home that I was almost in tears.  My stomach is pooched out, but I'm quite sure people would never guess it was pregnancy.  Just larger all over in the front!  I'm going to have to go get a larger bra too!  
Mornings are when I feel most nauseous, although it's liveable, and I have to force myself to eat to help it go away.

Well, I'm going to attempt to go on with my day here.  I don't get real motivated to do a whole lot.

Take care,
Linda

by Barbara_hi, Jun 21, 2008 03:46PM
To: Annie
Hi Annie!

I just wanted to say I hear you!  I am waiting for my blood test this coming thursday and even though I know logically it's way to early to try and would probably be negative, and that that negative result would mean nothing, I still want to try... hee hee. Somewhere inside me there's a little voice saying, "maybe it would work!".

Anyway, good luck to you!

Barbara

by hyperiongp, Jun 22, 2008 01:10PM
To: Linda
How far along are you.  Sometimes at night I get really bad bloating in my stomach and acid indigestion.  I too feel like all my organs are shoved to the side, and nothing is moving along like it should.  I have found that not eating makes the nausea worse, and that if I am actually going to throw up, it doesn't matter if I eat or don't eat.  

I too have a hard time driving long distances.  If I am going to drive it has to be early.  I am so sorry you sufferred.  I start back to school tomorrow, and I will have to sit for 5 hours in one class, 4 days a week.  Sitting seems to "compress" everything even more.

I was laughing when you said your bras don't fit, I just told my bestfriend that the cute bras I purshased for my husbands benefit are not working anymore, that now I needed to go from cute to FUNCTIONAL, STRETCHY, and COMFORTABLE.  My waist is destroyed, it was not perfect to start with, but now forget it.  

What gets me through each day is to know that I have been blessed, and yes this blessing comes complete with some sufferring, but in the end I will get the bundles of joy.  I am counting though now to delivery, my doctor said for twins he is hoping I will carry at least to 34 weeks, which is 20 weeks away.  

I go back on July 1 to see the OB/GYN.  Well, take care of youself and relax today.  It is super hot here is Southern California, so I am going to sit in a dark air conditioned room.  

Angelique

by SMA827, Jun 22, 2008 06:52PM
To: Hyperiongp, Linda0305
Well I have had a better day today. Not as nauseated and not as exausted. However it is so hot here that it is just miserable to be outside.   I saw it is for you  too Angelique in Cal. What a heat wave you are having out there.  I have still  been resting today as much as possible.

Well I am 10 weeks today and I am praying that this is the start of me feeling better. I know I am still in the first trimester but I am trying to hope.  

Angelique, Wow when you say 20 weeks left, it doesn't sound like it is that long at all. So that means I have 24 weeks left with twins.  I am glad you are feeling a little better too.

Shannon

by mysty2001, Jun 23, 2008 08:02AM
I carried my last set to 35 weeks
I am hoping for 36.5 weeks withthese (that is just under 20 weeks for me too)
really we all want to get them to the point they don;t have to be in NICU - 34 weeks sounds early!
I am always counting as if 37 is the magic week
I know women who have gone b/t 38-40 no thanks
with twins my doc won;t let you go beyong 37 due to high mortality rate

by AGQT, Jun 23, 2008 12:15PM
To: ALL
Congrats on all your positive results!!  I am so proud for each and every one of you!!!

To all with negatives....I completely understand how each one of you feel.  But like my mother told me....it wasn't meant to be this time, even though that is hard to understand.  It WILL happen when the time is right.  Never give up and always have hope that our day will come with time!!

I am doing well.  Even though we had a BFN....it has really strengthened my relationship with my husband.  He has been more supportive than I would've ever imagined.  We are both excited for the FET in Sept and know that is in the hands of GOD and GOD only.  
Doc said our 7 FE are of the best quality and we shouldn't lose any with the thaw.  So the positives of everything are keeping my spirits up and I am hoping, praying, and waiting for Sept 26th.

To everyone with the negative effects of pregnancy...hang in there, your joy and reward will be here before you know it!!!  I do pray that it gets better for you!

by bimkim, Jun 23, 2008 12:26PM
To: Everyone
Hi to all in the forum. Gosh, it has been a while since I logged on. Did a bit of travelling last week to the US. But back in the caribbean now.

Well, I am now approx. 7 1/2 wks on the way, no symptoms...told DH yesterday that every day i am waiting to see if I will have morning sickness the next day! Nothing thus far, fingers crossed. Actually on an odd occasion I would get heartburn, but that happens maybe once a week and it does not last too long. Last time I had it was possibly last Thursday, 19th June.

Had another scan last week, because I kept bleeding off and on, sometimes brown, sometimes red, but very very light. Clinic said that the baby is growing nicely and I should continue to take it easy.

SMA827 - fantastic that you are at the 10 week mark. Sorry you are feeling nauseated though, have you tried any of the internet solutions?  Anything with ginger?

Linda - will assume you have not been lifting anything heavy recently!! Sorry you are having such a rough time though. Maybe the hormones are really acting up and causing you to bloat as well. Sometimes my stomach looks really round and awful, other times it is a little flat.My boobs have not gotten any bigger...knock on wood...right now I wear a 36DDD and I pray and pray and pray that they don't get any bigger, but I know they will.

Barbara_hi - THINK POSITIVE!!!

Hugo716 - 25th June is just around the corner. try not to stress out about it too much and remember the forum is always here to support you no matter the outcome.

Angelique - I envy you with your twins!
DH and I wanted twins so bad, as we used all our embryos, however, seems like we will have to go at it again.
I am also sorry to hear about your nausea.

Pat_11 and Gen2524 - Any news?

Sorry if I missed anyone, but to all just keep on trucking and remember that there is always someone here to talk to.

Take care,

Bimkim

by Pat_11, Jun 23, 2008 03:30PM
To: Bimkim and all
The test came back negative. We will just have to keep trying for the second and third perhaps.

I am happy for you that you have made it this far. Congrat!  

by Danielle501, Jun 23, 2008 07:28PM
To: All
Hey all - It sounds like I'm not the only one feeling so exhausted and SO sick lately!   I feel terrible complaining about it when I've been wanting this baby for so long but I seriously can't wait until this nausea is O-V-E-R!   I'm pretty much nauseated from 1st thing in the morning until about 5 pm.   It's loads of fun as I'm trying to do my job all day long!  Other than that, it sounds like all of us that are about 8 - 12 weeks are doing great.  That's awesome to hear.  I pray every night for all of us to continue to have safe, healthy pregnancies.  

Thanks for all of the kind comments on the loss of my twin.   My husband and I also believe that things happen the way they are supposed to and are just thrilled that the other little one is continuing to do well.

I had another ultrasound today which was just amazing.  He/she is a mover!  I couldn't believe how much movement we saw.   There are little arms and legs forming too.  It's just incredible how quickly they grow!   My specialist released me to my regular OB today.  I'm so sad to leave him but excited that things are going well enough that I'm ready to move on.

Linda - I didn't realize you were in IN.   I am too - Indy.  Our due dates are real close too.   Mine is Jan 29th.   It sounds like you a had a rough day last week.   I hope you were able to get some rest over the weekend.

For those of you new to the forum who have questions - welcome!   I know the waiting is just awful.   I would highly suggest staying away from the HPTs if you can resist.   I didn't do any but eveything that I've read seems to have lead people to more questions or heartbreak so wait if you can!   Everyone on this board has been in your shoes and know exactly how you feel.   You'll be in my thoughts and I hope that the time passes quickly and you receive positive results soon!

by bimkim, Jun 24, 2008 10:20AM
To: Everyone
Hi all,

Pat_11 - So sad to hear about your blood test. However, keep your spirits up, maybe this time was not meant to be. You never know you may be second time lucky. Don't give up!

Think I spoke too soon yesterday! Feeling a little queasy all morning, and when I was cooking this morning I wretched a little(if that is the word).
Will have to jump on this ginger thing to see if that helps.
Have been drinking my water as usual. I am trying to get to about 10 glasses a day, right now I am at about 8.

Danielle, I understand what you are saying about having to sit at work with the sick feeling overcoming you. With my queasiness I feel as though I cannot focus, hope it does not get any worse. I am due on Feb 9th, so we are all very close.

Let me plod along in this lovely world of work.

You ladies take care and try to have a good one.

Bimkim

by mysty2001, Jun 24, 2008 11:05AM
To: bimkin
mine started with just nausea
the day it turned into full blown m/s I won;t forget - I started with my usual water and prenatal - and up it came - I threw up every day (or close to)  from then on and there was no drinking of water at all untill 11 weeks
finally at about 14 weeks I was able to go back to 8 glasses a day

by bimkim, Jun 24, 2008 04:03PM
To: mysty2001
Oh boy...I am truly dreading it..
I will try drinking ginger beer(had a little of that today) and probably buy ginger mints on my way home.
Not too queasy right now, but there is something unsettling in my stomach, besides the little baby!
Will let you know how I make out in the morning.
So sorry that you had m/s for so long.
Take care.
Bimkim

by Linda0305, Jun 25, 2008 10:16AM
To: All
I guess I've been busy....there were lots of new posts, and I really enjoyed reading them.
Angelique, I am 8 1//2 weeks now, and I broke down and bought three new bras!  They're DD, and I doubt that they'll get me through to the end!  I mean my boobs have seriously gone haywire.  VERY sore and huge, and I was already large, so it's not a great thing.  I still feel good, and other than constantly hungry I'm doing well.  I hope that your classes go well as for sitting.  Just stand up often if you feel cramped.  What are you studying?
Shannon, so happy to see that your morning sickness may be subsiding.  Great news!!! Maybe now you can begin to enjoy your pregnancy.
Danielle, wow, you are close.  I'm in Fort Wayne, but I used to live in Indy.  I go there fairly often for work, and my brother lives in Carmel.  What would the chance be that we're on this site in cyberspace, and we live 2 hours apart????  Crazy!
Bimkim, boy I hope the m/s doesn't strike you too!!!   And you make sure that you move around at work.

Pat, sorry to hear your negative results....were you able to freeze any since you mentioned a second/third try?

AGQT, so happy to see your post!!!!  I'm so glad that you and your husband have come together even more after such an experience (we did too).  I will be praying and praying for you from now until Sept.!!!

Have a great day everyone.  It's pouring here, so I'm laying low today.

Linda

by Pat_11, Jun 25, 2008 10:32AM
To: Linda and Everyone
Nope, nothing to freeze. Will have to start fr. fresh cycle.
Can I ask how many attempts do most of you had before a successful one?
Does your doctor do any special immune system test like NK Assay , TH1 TH2?
I began to suspect my body is rejecting the fertilized embryos, very hard to get pregnant too.

Thanks

by Linda0305, Jun 26, 2008 07:13AM
To: Pat
Five years ago we had only one chance, and it was the same this time.  Nothing to freeze, but we used donor eggs this time b/c I'm over 40, so I think that's why we were successful.  I don't believe that I was given any immune system test.  Have you asked your doctor about that possibility in your case?  Have you done IVF before?

Linda

by Pat_11, Jun 26, 2008 10:58AM
To: Linda
We had a post IVF consult yesterday and the doc gave pretty reasonable explanation the fact that detail immune system test is not recommended. He also gave us the case of a women over 40 would have a healthy uterus, just that her own egg is aging, and donor egg of a young women would actually work.  

He said IVF failure is random, didn't get the right embroys. Some women might take two or three trials. He also suggested the second protocol used would be with ICSI, AH and blastocyst (if embroyo can developed up to this stage)

I think the first IVF gave some good stats. for him. Will see how the second one goes in the next three months or so. By then he can conclude if a donor egg is recommended.

Pat    



        

by bimkim, Jun 26, 2008 12:29PM
To: Pat_11
Pat, this is actually my first IVF cycle and I am very thankful it was successful.
Truth is I never really had any female problems, this was male factor.
I am 37.  

by Linda0305, Jun 26, 2008 01:29PM
To: Pat
We also had to do ICSI and AH since our 27 yr. old donor had "thick shells" on her eggs, so I feel that that also has lead to our success this time.  Ours were day 3 transferred embryos.  Your doctor obviously knows what he's talking about, so trust in him.

Linda

by hyperiongp, Jun 26, 2008 02:58PM
To: Shannon
I say 20 weeks because 34 is the "magic" number as my doctor says.  If twins are born at 34 weeks or beyond they usually do not have to have extended hospital stays, his goal is 36-37 weeks, and the risk of the placenta detaching becomes too high after that so if they are still in they come out at that point.  So really I have 20-23 weeks left, but in order to survive each day, because I am so miserable, I just keep telling myself that I can make it another 20 weeks.  I will be 15 weeks next Tuesday.

My nausea is resistant.  It just stays, 24 hours a day, never goes away, so now I just take the medication routinely, beats vomiting.  I hope your morning sickness actually does disappear, my doctor said that it usually starts to decrease between weeks 12 and 14.  My appetite is increasing, I had NO appetite at all for the first 12 weeks, now that is getting better.  

The cooler weather is making things easier on me.  That heat wave was brutal, with temps up around 108 degrees.  Glad that is gone for now, but it will be back.  July and Aug are always very hot here.  

Take care Angelique

by Pat_11, Jun 26, 2008 05:46PM
To: Linda & Bimkim
Thanks for your informative facts. It's good to know the different scenerio we each has to go through. I am 36, have had two miscarrigaes in the past, certainly the next few years are critical time.

I am happy for you both, it's worth all the work and wait! God bless!  

by SMA827, Jun 27, 2008 01:25PM
To: Hyperiongp
Angelique, Thanks for the info.  I too am taking the nausea medication very regularly and wow has my appetite increased , too much I think.  I have never been a desert eater and well,  that has changed. It seems all I want is Strawberry shortcake and Key lime pie. That is not a good thing. But once I get it in my head that I want it, then I have to have it. and then... well I spend the next hour regreting what I ate. Also not drinking enough water, I just can't stand plain water. I do drink alot of gator aid.  I am completly out of all of my old pants already. Had to bump up from size 7 to size 10. Even though I have plenty of room to grow in them, I don't think it is going to take long to fill them up.  Energy though, where are you getting yours from, everyday is so challenging just to do the smallest things!  Take care, Shannon

by hyperiongp, Jun 27, 2008 03:15PM
To: Shannon
I force myself to do everything.  I am taking one college class and it takes everything I have to get there in the morning, and when I get home I sleep, then I wake up try to do homework and eat, then I sleep and start over.  Like yourself I get things in my head that I want to eat and I can't let it go.  I have to go get it.  If I take the nausea medication regularly then it helps, but if I stop forget it you know what happens then.  I was hoping the nausea would go away, but nope, it is still here.  I am almost 15 weeks, so in the second tri-mester, but it is still hanging in there.  I have taken to stretch pants, and I am up a bra size.  Sleeping is difficult because there is no comfortable position.  I will find out Tuesday how much weight I have gained.  Initially from the nausea I lost weight, which did not make my doctor happy at all, but now my appetite has improved so I am sure I have gained weight.  Well hang in there, hopefully your nausea will go away as you get to the end of the first tri-mester.   Take care, Angelique

by Hugo716, Jun 27, 2008 04:46PM
To: All
I had 3 blood tests this week and the numbers decreased rather than increased.  It was our fet from our first batch of embies.  They are calling it a chemical pregnancy.  Has anyone else had one and then gotten pregnant?  we are in a warranty program so we have to go through 2 more fresh cycles before they will refund part of our money.

Hopefully better news next time.

Annie

by Barbara_hi, Jun 28, 2008 06:25AM
To: All
Guess What?
Sometimes a home test does work! I admit it I couldn't wait. My test was scheduled for last thursday, 14 days after transfer. On the tuesday morning I took a test and it was positive!  I notified my clinic and they said I could come in a day early for my blood test (wednesday). That was also positive. A secondary test on Friday revealed my hcg levels rising nicely and everything looks great! First ultrasound scheduled for Monday the 7th of July.
We are so incredibly happy. This was sort of a one shot deal for us as our income level would not allow us to try again anytime in the near future.
I live in Ontario, Canada and have the option of using a government sponsered mid wife to help me through the pregnancy. I would definetly still want to have the baby in the hospital though. Any opinions on this? Anyone used one before?
Thanks,
Barb
P.S. Annie, I am so sorry for your results. It sounds like it was a bit of a rollercoaster for you and I will pray your next cycle is succesful....

by Linda0305, Jun 30, 2008 08:28AM
To: Annie
I am not familiar with a chemical pregnancy, so I cannot comment on it.  I am very sorry that you're going through this though, and I am glad that you are given more opportunities for success.

Barbara, congratulations!!!!  That is great news!  I'm sure that you are excited for your ultrasound.  I cannot comment on the midwife....would it mean that she'd deliver your baby in a hospital so that care is available should you need it?

Linda

by hyperiongp, Jun 30, 2008 11:28PM
To: Annie
Hello any.  First let me say how sorry I am that you have to endure this.  A chemical pregnancy means the embryo didn't stick but started making hormones.  

This more than likely no bearing on the possibility for future pregnancies.  All that happened is the embryo started to implant, made hormones and then your body decided against it continueing development. The number one reason is that the embryo was not genetically normal.  Remember that in the world of natural conception 50% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage, many before the woman ever knew she was pregnant.  You just had that experience, it is given a fancy name, chemical pregnancy.

I have had multiple miscarriages in my life, which led me to fertility treatments.  Currently I am 15 weeks pregnant with twins.  It can happen for you, I am also very glad you have 2 more fresh cycles to go through.  

Take care, and I wish you the best of luck the next round.  Keep us all posted, we try to be a great support system for each other.  

Angelique

by bimkim, Jul 02, 2008 11:51AM
To: Everyone
Hello all. Have not posted in a few days...work work work!!!
Tomorrow I will be 9 weeks and another scan tomorrow as well, fingers crossed no morning sickness as yet. However, if I don't keep eating I start to feel a little nauseous. So, I eat almost every hour...trying to eat healthy stuff..not having any cravings yet. But boy am I ravenous all the time.
Just realised that the heartburn is back!!! Chewing gum in hopes of getting rid of it very very soon...

Linda, how are you feeling? Think we are closest in our due dates...

by Linda0305, Jul 02, 2008 07:28PM
To: bimkim
Glad that you're doing well.  I'll be 10 weeks on Saturday, and tomorrow is our first appt. with the OB.  I'm looking forward to hearing what he says and confirming my due date and possibly finding out how much longer I have to stay on all of the meds that I'm taking.
I'm like you....no real morning sickness but I'm ravenous and have to eat constantly or I feel lousy/nauseous.  I actually have real cravings though, especially for Italian food.  Mexican is usually my favorite, but I cannot eat it right now at all, and it gives me horrible heartburn.  My main thing is that I never feel full, and it's so frustrating.  I don't want to eat but almost have to.  Most of the time nothing sounds good either.
Let me know what you learn tomorrow, and I'll post as well.

Take care,
Linda

by Barbara_hi, Jul 02, 2008 09:58PM
To: Linda
With a midwife you have the choice of delivering at home or at the hospital. I would definetly opt for the hospital, never know if your going to need one of those high tech machines...
A mid wife basically replaces a doctor in low risk pregnancies, but there is a doctor available at the hospital if one is needed. They follow you through your pregnancy, visiting with you more frequently as you get furthur along in your pregnancy and come to your home when you go into labour. A second midwife meets you at the hospital and is there for the delivery. Then the first midwife stays with you for three hours after birth and visits you in your home 3 times in the first week, and then once a week until your baby is a month old. You go in for a final check up at 6 weeks after birth.
They have four years of training and keep tabs on your health, the babies health, the babies weight, size, heart rate, etc... They help with labour pains, stress and after birth moniter the babies health and yours and help with questions, and breast feeding.
They are the new popular thing here in Toronto.
I don't even know if I'll be able to use one yet though. My first ultrasound for heart beat is monday, then I will know if I am having one baby or two, as they transfered two embryos. If it's twins, a midwife won't take you anyway... too high risk I guess.
The bummer thing is it's really hard to get a doctor here, not enough good ones floating around so they book up really fast...
P.S> maybe your done the meds soon, I thought the progesterone and estrace were only until week ten... good luck with your appointment!
Barb

by hyperiongp, Jul 02, 2008 11:23PM
To: Bim Kim and Linda
For me the heartburn has progressively gotten worse.  My OB/GYN told me that I could take over the counter Zantac as the instructions say, and that I could take it for the entire pregnancy if I needed, with no harm to the baby.  

Linda, I think you will be done with your meds, or done by this weekend.  Around week 11 the babies placenta takes over making progesterone, and your ovaries no longer have to do this task.  My progesterone was high at 7 weeks so they had me stop, and I never took estrace.  My entire frist tri-mester I was too sick to eat, but now I am hungry and have to eat frequently.  I still really struggle with what I want to eat, because my actual appetite is not real good.  

I wish both of you luck with your appointments.  I went yesterday to my OB/GYN and the babies are now about 4 inches from head to butt.  I go in for the medical diagnostic ultrasound on July 23, and they will do amniocentisis at the same time.  

Please post tomorrow.  Take care, Angelique

by bimkim, Jul 03, 2008 11:18AM
To: Linda, Barbara, Angelique
hello all.
had my 9 week scan this morning, the baby is growing nicely...heartbeat is very very strong. the arm buds are just coming in as well.
linda, it is amazing, i cannot eat too much because then i feel as though i will literally overflow my stomach, but when i am full enough and i stop within the next 2 hours longest, i feel as though i could eat a whole animal.
no cravings for me as yet, but i don't really feel too much like eating chicken so using beans instead of the meat.
heartburn does not know if it wants to stay or if it is wants to go. feeling okay now, but feel as though anything would bring it back. i really don't want to go on any meds for that. i have heard that tums is good too and those provide a dash of calcium...i may look into that..i don't know..
i have to stop my prognova next thursday, but the suppositories will only stop after 12 weeks, i can't wait...really tired of that waxy white stuff oozing...sorry...too much information..

Barbara, good luck...I hope they are twins in there, that would be great. keep us posted...

Angelique, it is so good to hear that your babies are growing nicely.

Linda, did you see your OB this morning? What did they say? How does baby look?

this is all too too too exciting!!!!

have a great day, ladies!

by Linda0305, Jul 03, 2008 03:57PM
To: All
Well, the appointment went ok.  We weren't at all impressed with the doctor, but at this point we'll just hang with it, and I'll go back to my regular Gyn when all is done.  He had absolutely NO bedside manner.  Didn't even say hello or introduce himself.  Then he had the nerve to ask if we'd selected an attractive donor!!!!!!!  Now that I know he's a smart 'a,' I'll be better with some comebacks I guess.  
Anyway, he did the first ultrasound that I've had on the stomach.  It wasn't very clear, and I couldn't even tell that it was a baby, but the heart rate has gone up to the 170's now, and he said that everything looks like it's supposed to.  Then he said that he'd keep me on my "fertilizer cocktail" for another two weeks, and then I can discontinue all of the meds.  That was it!  Oh, he said that I can resume activities that I was previously told not to do, so I immediately took a nice long walk when I could today.  Don't know that I'll jump back into sex just yet! Sorry!  Haven't really been too much in the mood if you know what I mean.
Bimkim, glad you got to see some actual body parts!  Awesome.  Oh, I forgot to mention that he gave us an u.s. picture that wasn't even ours!  He's like, oh, that's a boy, and that's not yours!
Barbara, post soon.  I want to hear what you found out today too.
Linda

by bimkim, Jul 04, 2008 11:19AM
To: Linda
Hey linda. sorry, i dont like your doctor either. can't you change him? was he recommended by your fertility doctor? he seems to be a real jerk. how the heck could he give you the wrong ultra sound pic??
And he did not say hello? What kind of man is he?
CHANGE HIM!!!!!!!
Sorry, but that was upsetting to hear.

Looking forward to hearing from Barbara as well.
Take care,
Kim

by Linda0305, Jul 04, 2008 05:56PM
To: Kim
Happy 4th!  Yes, it was suggested by our fertility doctor that we see him because he has a specialty unlike any other in the city that we live.  I could potentially have complications down the road since we used donor eggs, and my age makes me high risk as well.  
My sister used him for her recent pregnancy w/ twins, and she'd warned me that he was a little different.  I also spoke with another couple last night who had him, and they said that he can be abrupt if he's having a "challenging day" or something.  I'm definitely not excusing him, and I intend to put him in check if he says any more inappropriate things.
I don't want to over react and switch just yet, so let's see how he is on the 17th.
Thank you for thinking about me, girl!

Linda

by Barbara_hi, Jul 07, 2008 07:44PM
To: All...
Okay. I am in shock. They put in two embryos. One of them split and i am currently carrying triplets! We saw three heartbeats today. Two babies are indentical, sharing a placenta and sac. One is on it's own.
We have been referred to a multiple specialist. we have been warned not to say too much about it as our doctor is worried about the two embryos sharing the same sac and placenta. He said wait till twelve weeks to mention it.
I am terrified that something will happen and we'll lose one and I am terrified of having three babies! Wow. Three car seats, three cribs, three of everything... as my partner said "this was not the plan". I think he is also in shock. We want a baby so much and it seems wrong to look a gift horse in the mouth but wow! three! I need some time to ajust.
It happens 1 in every 8000 pregnancies. Boy was our doctor surprised! he insisted to us immediately when we came in the room that he only put it two. I think he was very worried of our reaction. I am happy and sure we will figure it out. Just surprised and worried for the health of all three of my babies...
EEEEEEK!

by SMA827, Jul 08, 2008 10:23AM
To: Everyone
Hello everyone,  Sorry I have not posted in awhile.  I have been nauseated and this past week we have 10 of my husbands family staying with us from Louisiana. Wow, how crazy it has been.  Anyway, Went to ROC last Thursday for my high risk checkup and everything was good.  Both babies are moving around like crazy, the ultrasound tech could not get them to stay still long enough to get some the needed test. We have it on a DVD, so I have watched it like 3 or 4 times since being home. The heart rates were 175 and 160. She could not quite tell the sex but did say that twin B could be a boy.  My hubby was so excited.  I am officially off all the meds as of yesterday. Thank God. I just hope nothing goes wrong now that I am stopping them all.  I was happy to read all of your new post.
Barbara, I know you are in shock, but try to not stress and relax as much as possible. I am so exctited for you.

Angelique, Sorry about the heartburn.  I ate dinner last night and then started throwing up within 20 min of eating.  Today, I woke up a little nausea, but quickly took my zofran. So I am okay now. Just hungry and eating everything I can get my hands on. I am also OUT of all my clothes and wearing small maternity and just bigger clothes.  My husband gets so excited the more my stomach grows.  

Shannon

by Linda0305, Jul 08, 2008 11:14AM
To: Barbara
I just wanted to say that your reactions are completely justified.  A year ago my sister found out that she too was pregnant with triplets after doing one round of IUI.  They each had their own sacs, and each had heartbeats, although one was a weak heartbeat.  The day of her first ultrasound, and upon learning that there were three she went absolutely  berserk for lack of a better word.  Crying, screaming almost, and just shear terror.  THREE!!!!  They had one already, so she was looking at going from one to four.  In short, she lost the one with the weak heartbeat at around 9-10 weeks (I think), and things settled down, but for the time that there were three she went through so many emotions similar to those that you said.  She'd feel horrible for feeling overwhelmed, etc.  It all turned out for the best, and she has two gorgeous fraternal girls.
Try and go one day at a time.  I always told my sister that if it remained triplets, then she'd do whatever it took to handle it, and we'd all be there to help.  She was told that it's very rare that all three would survive the first trimester.  She hated to bank on that, again feeling like you said, but she just couldn't handle the idea of three.
I'm praying that God's plan is the best one for you and your partner.  Hang in there, and don't feel guilty about feeling like you do!  It's very very normal!  You didn't go into IVF wanting or hoping for three, and that is a lot!

I'm thinking about you.  Please keep us posted on your visits and progress.

Shannon, I've missed hearing from you and think it's so cute that you're in maternity clothes!  I'm holding out with drawstring shorts and long tops, but you have one more baby than I do too!

Linda

by hyperiongp, Jul 08, 2008 09:19PM
To: everyone
Linda, sorry your OB/GYN did not have good bedside manners; however if he knows his stuff and can get the little one into the world with the least amount of complications perhaps it is worth it to put up with him.  I would definitely put him in his place though, and let him know my comfort level.  I am glad however that all is well with the baby.

Barbara, triplets.....I don't know what to say.  I can't imagine your shock, as I was shocked with twins, and I knew twins were possible.  All I can say is take it one day at a time.  A friend of mine conceived triplets naturally, the pregnancy was hard, the delivery early, the babies were little, but overall healthy.  Once you are past week 12 then start shopping.   I have to buy for twins and that is expensive, triplets is going to be even more...I shall keep you in my thoughts and prayers, take care and take it easy.

Shannon, it gets better....yes it does.   I am now in week 16, and the nausea is much better, not gone, but better.  I can handle the acid reflux, I take a Zantac and it controls that fairly well.  Every now and then the acid reflux gets really bad and I have to take tums or rolaids, but I will put up with that any day over nausea.   I am glad both babies look healthy.  

I have outgrown my clothing as well, my stomach is pouching and rock hard.  It is now getting in the way.  We started buying stuff for the babies, because we now know the genders, we are having one boy and one girl (95% sure).  That is exactly what I wanted.  We have gotten some things but not the big stuff yet.  I can feel fluttering sometimes, it is pretty neat.  I don't have my diagnostic ultrasound until week 18.  That is coming up.  

Bim Kim, glad that you are doing well.  I pray you don't get the morning sickness, as Shannon could second that it is awful.  There is no worse feeling than being nauseated 24/7.  

Angelique
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