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Period pain but no period (Menopause)
Hi, I'm 51. I think I miss my period for more than 5 months now. I have more than a month lower abdominal pain. It is exactly like period pain. All the time dull pain.
My question is..... Is it possible that without period still can get period pain? Anyone come across with these kind of symptom? Any idea why or come in the head of possible causes?
My question is..... Is it possible that without period still can get period pain? Anyone come across with these kind of symptom? Any idea why or come in the head of possible causes?
Thanks again for the reply. I'm really in the middle of no way. I decided not to see any doctor or specialist for a little while. Now, the mild lower abdomen pain affects the quality of my life. I again will start to visit these doctors. I know they'll push in all those magic tablets to me. These magic tablets can heal the symptoms and it also can create abnormal cells for me............. I don't know am I do the right thing or not?
My Gynae doc charges very high. Normal visit will cost me out of pocket $50.00. Gastro doc bulk bill ($0.00 out of pocket). Medicare pays all. I'll see Gastro doc first to bypass that $50.00 out of pocket. I hope she can fix it.
Regarding to the pap result. It'll cost more to do the colposcopic. I also bypass that. I believe it was a mistake in the pap smear. After 2 months, I repeated in the GP surgery. The result said low grade..... And it asked to follow up in a year. I believe it was a mistake or because I took too many magic tablets (7 types) and it affected/upset/confused my body system.
I feel better because it is actually there is a name for my symptom "phantom periods". Thanks for given me that info. I feel sorry for you that you've faced to a consideration of hysterectomy. I won't face it because I don't believe report anymore. If they do say so, which report that they'll follow through? I think the doc confused too! Not only Gynae doc, the gastro doc also confused. Well, the CT said multiple, affected most of my bowel! The endoscopies (upper & lower) show non, not even one that she can find!
Good luck to your endometrial biopsy and take care of yourselves. Please come back and post again. I can and so many can learn from you.
My Gynae doc charges very high. Normal visit will cost me out of pocket $50.00. Gastro doc bulk bill ($0.00 out of pocket). Medicare pays all. I'll see Gastro doc first to bypass that $50.00 out of pocket. I hope she can fix it.
Regarding to the pap result. It'll cost more to do the colposcopic. I also bypass that. I believe it was a mistake in the pap smear. After 2 months, I repeated in the GP surgery. The result said low grade..... And it asked to follow up in a year. I believe it was a mistake or because I took too many magic tablets (7 types) and it affected/upset/confused my body system.
I feel better because it is actually there is a name for my symptom "phantom periods". Thanks for given me that info. I feel sorry for you that you've faced to a consideration of hysterectomy. I won't face it because I don't believe report anymore. If they do say so, which report that they'll follow through? I think the doc confused too! Not only Gynae doc, the gastro doc also confused. Well, the CT said multiple, affected most of my bowel! The endoscopies (upper & lower) show non, not even one that she can find!
Good luck to your endometrial biopsy and take care of yourselves. Please come back and post again. I can and so many can learn from you.
Wow, that is frustrating to say the least to have all of those opinions.
First of all, I think that seeing a Gastroenterologist might be a good bet anyways. Bowels are so close to the uterus that anything to do with that can also create pain that can be confusing as to where it's coming from. My sister-in-law was thought to have an ovarian cyst on one ultrasound, but, gone the next. She also has dealt with endometriosis for years as well with several laproscopic surgeries to clear endometrial tissues. So, when she had abdominal pain, she didn't know if it was a cyst, the endometriosis or just what it was. Another surgery was performed not too long ago (laproscopic again) to see what was going on. There was very little endometrial tissue, no cyst but, some scar tissue and it was deemed that it was NOT a gynecological problem, but rather a "spastic colon". She's being treated for that with diet and stress reduction, medication etc. and is feeling much better.
I'm not sure on what to say here but, I guess that the thing to do would be to ask myself what I'd do in this situation. First of all, I'm assuming that you're seeing an gynecologist for these tests as opposed to your family physician? If not, perhaps, you want to ask to be refered to one? IF you are seeing a gynecologist and haven't had another opinion, you may want to ask that your records be sent to another gynecologist and have her/him go over the tests that you've already had done and see what their recommendation is. Sort of a "tie breaker" type of thing.
Certainly, the pap tests are showing something there that needs to be watched and repeated so, that should be followed through with...perhaps, sooner rather than later? Perhaps, a year is too long a wait. Years ago, I had an abnormal pap and it was repeated in 3 months. But, then again, perhaps, the difference between the two paps that you have had are showing a regression of whatever it is that they are concerned about so, it's not as imperative to keep up as much or as quickly? Only your doc can answer that one more thoroughly but, they are notorious for not answering questions fully and we end up resorting to forums like this for help and soothing and companionship. :) Sometimes, just knowing that we're not alone in things like this can help some in and of itself as well as hearing others who have gone through things like this and are still around to tell their tales and share them with others who are frightened and just going through it.
Personally, when I don't understand something fully and I'm not at ease in my mind, I will search for someone to explain it all to me more thoroughly, even if I book another appointment with the doc just to talk and explain things more fully. I do some research prior to going so that I can ask directed, pointed and intelligent questions to get the answers that I need.
I'm also at a point where I'm considering having a hysterectomy done. I'm prolapsed (moderately) and have a thickened endometrium and am booked in for a endometrial biopsy on the 12th of August. I don't mind telling you that I'm scared as well. I don't want repeated tests over and over again or the stress of waiting for results and wondering what's next. If there's any question at this point after the biopsy results, I may just opt for a hysterectomy rather than worry constantly. At 53, I'm certainly not worried about infertility! LOL
What am I saying by all of this? Two things....get more information however you can...even if it means seeing another doc about the gyn end of things. Get someone to interpret these conflicting results to you as much as you can. And, do see the gastro doc to see if perhaps, you may have bowel/colon issues that can be causing this pain as opposed to a gyn problem.
I feel for you as I'm right up there with you in the "worried, confused and frustrated" category! :)
Information is knowledge and knowledge is power.
First of all, I think that seeing a Gastroenterologist might be a good bet anyways. Bowels are so close to the uterus that anything to do with that can also create pain that can be confusing as to where it's coming from. My sister-in-law was thought to have an ovarian cyst on one ultrasound, but, gone the next. She also has dealt with endometriosis for years as well with several laproscopic surgeries to clear endometrial tissues. So, when she had abdominal pain, she didn't know if it was a cyst, the endometriosis or just what it was. Another surgery was performed not too long ago (laproscopic again) to see what was going on. There was very little endometrial tissue, no cyst but, some scar tissue and it was deemed that it was NOT a gynecological problem, but rather a "spastic colon". She's being treated for that with diet and stress reduction, medication etc. and is feeling much better.
I'm not sure on what to say here but, I guess that the thing to do would be to ask myself what I'd do in this situation. First of all, I'm assuming that you're seeing an gynecologist for these tests as opposed to your family physician? If not, perhaps, you want to ask to be refered to one? IF you are seeing a gynecologist and haven't had another opinion, you may want to ask that your records be sent to another gynecologist and have her/him go over the tests that you've already had done and see what their recommendation is. Sort of a "tie breaker" type of thing.
Certainly, the pap tests are showing something there that needs to be watched and repeated so, that should be followed through with...perhaps, sooner rather than later? Perhaps, a year is too long a wait. Years ago, I had an abnormal pap and it was repeated in 3 months. But, then again, perhaps, the difference between the two paps that you have had are showing a regression of whatever it is that they are concerned about so, it's not as imperative to keep up as much or as quickly? Only your doc can answer that one more thoroughly but, they are notorious for not answering questions fully and we end up resorting to forums like this for help and soothing and companionship. :) Sometimes, just knowing that we're not alone in things like this can help some in and of itself as well as hearing others who have gone through things like this and are still around to tell their tales and share them with others who are frightened and just going through it.
Personally, when I don't understand something fully and I'm not at ease in my mind, I will search for someone to explain it all to me more thoroughly, even if I book another appointment with the doc just to talk and explain things more fully. I do some research prior to going so that I can ask directed, pointed and intelligent questions to get the answers that I need.
I'm also at a point where I'm considering having a hysterectomy done. I'm prolapsed (moderately) and have a thickened endometrium and am booked in for a endometrial biopsy on the 12th of August. I don't mind telling you that I'm scared as well. I don't want repeated tests over and over again or the stress of waiting for results and wondering what's next. If there's any question at this point after the biopsy results, I may just opt for a hysterectomy rather than worry constantly. At 53, I'm certainly not worried about infertility! LOL
What am I saying by all of this? Two things....get more information however you can...even if it means seeing another doc about the gyn end of things. Get someone to interpret these conflicting results to you as much as you can. And, do see the gastro doc to see if perhaps, you may have bowel/colon issues that can be causing this pain as opposed to a gyn problem.
I feel for you as I'm right up there with you in the "worried, confused and frustrated" category! :)
Information is knowledge and knowledge is power.
Thanks for replying my post. The pain is still going. I don't know which ultrasound should I believe. One said fibroid. One said ovary cyst. One said nothing at all. Same as pap smear. One said I have CIN 2/3, high grade....... one said low, repeat pap in a year. I've seen my GP. He suspected is appendix or colon problem. So now I'm waiting for another 2 more weeks to see the Gastro specialist. I don't know do I see the right doctor or not.
Yes, I've had that...although not as long as a month. The doc called it "phantom periods" where we get all of the pms symptoms but, no bleeding. I have no idea why or how that works but, it happens.
However, the fact that it's gone on for a full month of pain, may mean that you need to be evaluated for other causes such as fibroid (benign growths), uterine prolapse, pelvic inflammation, endometriosis etc. and rule them out. A simple, painless ultrasound can rule out quite a bit.
However, the fact that it's gone on for a full month of pain, may mean that you need to be evaluated for other causes such as fibroid (benign growths), uterine prolapse, pelvic inflammation, endometriosis etc. and rule them out. A simple, painless ultrasound can rule out quite a bit.
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